Sheriff66
Footballguy
I'm starting to think Lewis is a low character guy, and cannot see how he gets a free pass after knowingly drafting a team of thugs. This guy seems like he will sell his soul to the devil to win, look at the past few drafts, character is not real high on this guys list of traits. I guess the chickens have come home to roost, but Bungles fans don't want to hear it. Heck, even the star player on the team is a selfish, "look at me" guy, likeable, but taking a swing at your coach at halftime during a playoff game ?????I'd agree with this. It's all about winning. When you're winning, the other stuff gets swept under the rug.I bet if the Bengals had been 14-2, it wouldn't have been as big a deal.QG-You are right about a double standard at least here at FBG's. Everytime a Bengal has a problem everyone jumps in with their .02 cents. But if they're team is having trouble they get defensive. I've seen it before and it appears again in this thread.Bitter? No. But I think the whole "character is why the Bengals season went awry is crap. It's not the whole reason the season went down the way it did, in fact it's only a small part. Bigger factors were a tougher schedule, critical injuries (Odell's suspension was made much worse by Pollack's tragic injury) - including a makeshift line pretty much every game, a too-large amount of critical on-field lapses in concentration that had much more of an impact, and more than a dollop of bad luck (Tampa game is a supreme example of that). Given how many things had to go wrong to have us miss the playoffs, I'm very confident that Marvin will get things back together next year, particularly with a much more favorable schedule.The Chargers had a minefield of arrests (read distractions) and finished 14-2. Look at a guy like LT1 - on field a great but off-field not so much. There isn't a single coach in the league who wouldn't have taken him in his prime - illegal drug use and all.Basically the original poster is bitter that the Bengal’s are regressing and only have themselves to blame and doesn't have much of a leg to stand on.
I do think there's been a double standard as every Bengal arrest has led to its own thread (threads even), with a special-teamer or role player like Reggie McNeal or a 3rd-receiver like Henry getting the same weight as all others. More than a few athletes in many different sports had, um, colorful incidents - though of course more of these were glanced over by that era's press. Furthermore, more than a few have been given the benefit of the doubt or a second chance with no further (known) poop-in-a-closet incidents occuring. I just think that it's all been over blown and overrated. But I just had to note the double-standard this one time![]()
-QG
Part of it is that there are an overwelming number of Steeler fans around here and of course they hate Bengals. I'm sure this comment will bring them out in defense and that will not be surprising.
As for the post from Joe that the teams are refelective of thier coaches, I do not agree in Chicago's case. In fact, Chicago has some of the worst examples of troubled players I've seen as others pointed out earlier. Guys like Ricky Manning make the Bengals look like choir boys. But Their fans would rather point to the Bengals likely because it takes the heat off their team.
The reality is that all teams have their problems and the NFL would be wise to do something about it and try to raise their standards to something better than the NBA for example. The Bengals would be a good place to start but they are far from alone in this bad PR.
On the coaches too, I don't really agree. Do we think Marvin Lewis is a low character guy? I don't. So I'm not sure how much stock one can put into the "reflection of their coach" thing all the analyst guys want to talk about.
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I just don't see how Marv Lewis gets to be a high character guy when he brings in one turd after the next. It's as ludicrous as calling someone a wine connioseur when he goes to the liquor store and brings home mad dog 20/20. A person is a reflection of his conduct, and Lewis' conduct of bringing in bad seeds by the bushel suggests he has no character standards whatsoever.




I forgot at least one more clown, Brooks was thrown off the team at Virgina, but they picked him up in the supplemental draft to replace the other guy that was suspended for the year(Thurman). :
