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So far it's not quite what I expected but I'm just getting the hang of it. I've been hitting it Hard--the prefilled tanks are 8mg and minimal throat hit or vapor it seems, so I'm looking forward to something stronger from the refills. Kind of surprised at that--came across a kiosk at the mall yesterday that was dealing Vapor Corps, and on one of their models vaping 8's was fine. As it is I'm vaping pretty constantly to make up the difference.
I recall one of your initial posts indicated your smoking history was like Rovers'... so this initial reaction with 8 mg's doesn't surprise me in the slightest (other than the fact that a kiost had 8 mg's that were strong). I doubt Rovers would even be able to tell the difference between 8 mg juice and plain air inhales. He needed 24-36 mg to manage nic cravings.
I read a study not long ago that said a regular cigarette delivers 1.5mg of nicotine per cigarette, while a 16mg juice delivers .15mg in an equivalent # of "drags." So, even if you use 36mg juice, 10-12 drags (arbitrarily choosing that as the # of drags in which you'd smoke an analog), you're still only getting about 30% of the nicotine delivered that you'd get from an analog, so I don't know that people fretting over their nicotine content is necessary. If this is accurate, you need worry less about how much nicotine is in your juice and more about simulating the smoking experience enough to keep you from actually putting match to tobacco.
Any idea how many drags are in a cart? Better yet--how many in a eGo-Tank (which is what I use). I hadn't tried to track it, but after yesterday blowing through three tanks figure I might be hitting it too hard. Heck--I'm basically chain vaping much of the time. :mellow:
I pretty much chain vape on my pv. All my carts have teeth marks because I hold them like a cigar...
 
Thanks to this thread I haven't smoked a regular cigarette in over a week! Although the info seemed overwhelming at first I gave it a shot and am loving it so far! Thanks to all for the great reviews and tips! I ordered from V4L and am still experimenting with flavors and nicotine levels....I like some in 18 and some 11. Coffee flavors are good and took advantage of triple play offer this past weekend and looking forward to bananas foster, chocolate banana, cola, caramel mocha, and the red energy drink flavor. Thanks again to everyone here for sharing their stories and good luck to anyone thinking about giving it a shot!
Way to go, FG ! Next time you're up in Orlando, let's hang out and vape like champs. :)
A new supply of Reo Grands are supposed to be in the pipe-line this week. Anybody else looking to order one? Eliminating all the fuss and maximizing the experience sounds pretty good to me. For anyone who has one, would it be a good idea to get some extra bottles to have a wider variety of juices on stand-by?
It wouldn't hurt, I think they're $0.65 a piece. I really only use two, though - the flavors don't "stick" to the bottle, so you can just fill it with 1 ml or so and vape it for a few hours, then fill the bottle with something else. If you're planning on vaping a ton of flavors, the thing you want to have extras of is atomizers. The flavors definitely cling to those. Or, if you're going to use the catch cup to drip a few drops and switch flavors on the fly, don't start with a really strong flavor like Chocolate Mint or Atomic Cinnacide and then try to swtich to Hypnotic Mist. Do it the other way around.
Any idea how many drags are in a cart? Better yet--how many in a eGo-Tank (which is what I use). I hadn't tried to track it, but after yesterday blowing through three tanks figure I might be hitting it too hard. Heck--I'm basically chain vaping much of the time. :mellow:
Can't speak intelligently to the e-Go tank, but a standard cartomizer supposedly holds 200-250 puffs and is the equivalent to a pack of cigs. I call BS on that, though - pretty sure they tested it by having people take a small 1 second puff like you would on an actual cig. My experience is that taking 5 second pulls, I get maybe 50-100 out of a 1 ml cartomizer, probably equates to more like half a pack.
 
A new supply of Reo Grands are supposed to be in the pipe-line this week. Anybody else looking to order one? Eliminating all the fuss and maximizing the experience sounds pretty good to me. For anyone who has one, would it be a good idea to get some extra bottles to have a wider variety of juices on stand-by?
Yeah, heard he's got 300 Grands that will be available this run. You gotta think that if you want one, it won't be anywhere near as difficult as it has been in the past.I'm going through more juice with my Grand then I was with cartos. Not only make sure you have juice, but I would recommend that you get some with less nico then you are accustomed to. You'll want to blast away on this thing! :excited: In fact, that's most likely why I'm going through more juice, now that I think about it.I ordered some samples from Alien Visons (had to try Boba's and I must say it rocks!) which came in 6ml bottles. I just popped off the cap and inserted it right into the Grand. Now I've got more than half a dozen bottles to fill with various juices whenever I'm ready for a change of pace. :thumbup:
 
A new supply of Reo Grands are supposed to be in the pipe-line this week. Anybody else looking to order one? Eliminating all the fuss and maximizing the experience sounds pretty good to me. For anyone who has one, would it be a good idea to get some extra bottles to have a wider variety of juices on stand-by?
Yeah, heard he's got 300 Grands that will be available this run. You gotta think that if you want one, it won't be anywhere near as difficult as it has been in the past.I'm going through more juice with my Grand then I was with cartos. Not only make sure you have juice, but I would recommend that you get some with less nico then you are accustomed to. You'll want to blast away on this thing! :excited: In fact, that's most likely why I'm going through more juice, now that I think about it.I ordered some samples from Alien Visons (had to try Boba's and I must say it rocks!) which came in 6ml bottles. I just popped off the cap and inserted it right into the Grand. Now I've got more than half a dozen bottles to fill with various juices whenever I'm ready for a change of pace. :thumbup:
:thumbup:Their 6 ml sample bottles are identical to the ones that come with the REO. So handy.... just take one out, switch the cap onto the one you're done with and plug that bad boy in.
 
A new supply of Reo Grands are supposed to be in the pipe-line this week. Anybody else looking to order one? Eliminating all the fuss and maximizing the experience sounds pretty good to me. For anyone who has one, would it be a good idea to get some extra bottles to have a wider variety of juices on stand-by?
I've been trying to get one for a month now. In that span it seems like everybody has either decided that they want one or they want another one. Good thing he's gonna have a ton this time.
 
I'm all congested and can't taste anything. Great time to vape all those carts I never liked. Can't taste the flavors I do like anyway, especially the VG juices.

Just heard the Grande's will be on sale Friday. Can't wait! My Birthdays tomorrow and two months smoke free on Thursday. I think I earned it.

 
I'm all congested and can't taste anything. Great time to vape all those carts I never liked. Can't taste the flavors I do like anyway, especially the VG juices. Just heard the Grande's will be on sale Friday. Can't wait! My Birthdays tomorrow and two months smoke free on Thursday. I think I earned it.
Happy b'day, man. Grab a Grand, you won't regret it. I dropped over $200 on the PV, atomizers, and drip tips, and I never had a nanosecond of buyer's remorse.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.

Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.

I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.

I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.

I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.

 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
What nicotine level did you get in your pre-filled cartomizers?
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
I haven't been analog-free, either. But it appears that you, like me, have still significantly reduced your intake of tar and smoke and that can still be only a good thing. I'm down to about two cigs a day, which is almost silly since at that level I should be able to stop altogether. Hang in there.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
What nicotine level did you get in your pre-filled cartomizers?
Was going to ask the same question. Maybe get some higher nic cartos just for work? Whatever you do, don't give up on it.
 
I'm all congested and can't taste anything. Great time to vape all those carts I never liked. Can't taste the flavors I do like anyway, especially the VG juices. Just heard the Grande's will be on sale Friday. Can't wait! My Birthdays tomorrow and two months smoke free on Thursday. I think I earned it.
Happy b'day, man. Grab a Grand, you won't regret it. I dropped over $200 on the PV, atomizers, and drip tips, and I never had a nanosecond of buyer's remorse.
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Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
I haven't been analog-free, either. But it appears that you, like me, have still significantly reduced your intake of tar and smoke and that can still be only a good thing. I'm down to about two cigs a day, which is almost silly since at that level I should be able to stop altogether. Hang in there.
Out of curiosity, what is it about smoking that is still enticing? I too am thinking nic level could be a solution. Still great that you have significantly cut back but my experience was increasing nic at times made having my last couple cigarettes totally without enjoyment. I could not feel throathit or get nicotine reward even though I still wanted it at that point. If it is the TH or nic, that maybe something you can adjust that makes cigs less rewarding for you.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
What nicotine level did you get in your pre-filled cartomizers?
Was going to ask the same question. Maybe get some higher nic cartos just for work? Whatever you do, don't give up on it.
I originally started with the 6, but then tried some 11s. The 11s are noticeably different/better. The more I think about my whole situation is that it's stress and mental roadblocks keeping me on the analogs. The funny thing is that during the week, I still end up smoking close to a half pack a day, hardly even use the bloog.The vaping is a nice substitute, but something about it for me just isn't equal to the analogs, which is why I keep going back. I've noticed the feel of the bloog (weight) is totally different, I can't really hold it like an analog and then it's just weird to do it in public. People hound you about it. All of these are my own mental roadblocks, which makes me think it isn't even the smoking/nicotine addiction. Just F'd in the head right now, have almost 20 people working under me on this project, acting like they've never done this before :hot: ; some pressure from client, upper managers, etc. Driving me nuts. My smoke breaks are really just to step out and clear my head/get away from people more than "needing" a cig.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
What nicotine level did you get in your pre-filled cartomizers?
Was going to ask the same question. Maybe get some higher nic cartos just for work? Whatever you do, don't give up on it.
I originally started with the 6, but then tried some 11s. The 11s are noticeably different/better. The more I think about my whole situation is that it's stress and mental roadblocks keeping me on the analogs. The funny thing is that during the week, I still end up smoking close to a half pack a day, hardly even use the bloog.The vaping is a nice substitute, but something about it for me just isn't equal to the analogs, which is why I keep going back. I've noticed the feel of the bloog (weight) is totally different, I can't really hold it like an analog and then it's just weird to do it in public. People hound you about it. All of these are my own mental roadblocks, which makes me think it isn't even the smoking/nicotine addiction. Just F'd in the head right now, have almost 20 people working under me on this project, acting like they've never done this before :hot: ; some pressure from client, upper managers, etc. Driving me nuts. My smoke breaks are really just to step out and clear my head/get away from people more than "needing" a cig.
Everyone (at least on here) who has encountered similar problems has made the same "mistake", getting carts with way too low a nicotine content. Get some 24 mg carts (or maybe 16/18mg if you were a very light smoker or only smoked very light cigs) and then step out for "smoke" breaks when you normally would, and I'm fairly confident you'll notice a dramatic change.
 
My smoke breaks are really just to step out and clear my head/get away from people more than "needing" a cig.
I have made it a point to pretty much take all my normal smoke breaks, because even before starting vaping I knew that was huge for me. Still get up hours before anyone else and sit out on the deck, still head out from the job for some 'me' time, still spend some time evenings in the mancave with beer in hand. The only difference is that I'm vaping instead of smoking. Mostly--not 100% either, though dangerously close. Yesterday morning I smoked the last cigaret I had early morning, and while beer thirty was really crazy without any I spent a few hours putzing outside with the ecig anyway. This morning has been ok without any--but I've gone through almost two tanksful of 24mg already and about to drop down to 8mg's for awhile so as not to OD. I'm fortunate to have a lot of support at work, and pretty well hit the ecig constantly whether 'on break' or not--so it is in reverse from what you're finding in that it's easier for me at work. Sounds like our stress loads are similar.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
I haven't been analog-free, either. But it appears that you, like me, have still significantly reduced your intake of tar and smoke and that can still be only a good thing. I'm down to about two cigs a day, which is almost silly since at that level I should be able to stop altogether. Hang in there.
Out of curiosity, what is it about smoking that is still enticing? I too am thinking nic level could be a solution. Still great that you have significantly cut back but my experience was increasing nic at times made having my last couple cigarettes totally without enjoyment. I could not feel throathit or get nicotine reward even though I still wanted it at that point. If it is the TH or nic, that maybe something you can adjust that makes cigs less rewarding for you.
Fair question. I don't/can't vape at work with any kind of regularity so I go long periods with no nicotine, which probably makes me need to fire up a big hitter as soon as I can. So I've kinda settled into a (1) first thing in the morning cig, (2) right after work cig and (3) before I go to bed cig (sometimes -- usually not needed after an evening of vaping by the puter). Or it could be that I'm just a weenie.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
I haven't been analog-free, either. But it appears that you, like me, have still significantly reduced your intake of tar and smoke and that can still be only a good thing. I'm down to about two cigs a day, which is almost silly since at that level I should be able to stop altogether. Hang in there.
Out of curiosity, what is it about smoking that is still enticing? I too am thinking nic level could be a solution. Still great that you have significantly cut back but my experience was increasing nic at times made having my last couple cigarettes totally without enjoyment. I could not feel throathit or get nicotine reward even though I still wanted it at that point. If it is the TH or nic, that maybe something you can adjust that makes cigs less rewarding for you.
Fair question. I don't/can't vape at work with any kind of regularity so I go long periods with no nicotine, which probably makes me need to fire up a big hitter as soon as I can. So I've kinda settled into a (1) first thing in the morning cig, (2) right after work cig and (3) before I go to bed cig (sometimes -- usually not needed after an evening of vaping by the puter). Or it could be that I'm just a weenie.
Well, don't get down on yourself over progress. Everyone's habit is different. My suggestion is using Coffee 24 in place of your cig routine could immediately give you whatever quick fix you are getting from cigs. It's a super strong throat hit, too strong for me and I avoid it because 18's feel like air for 6 hours after I do. But for an AM/after work/PM alternative it might do the trick for you. I'd think bathroom breaks would be ideal for stealth vapes at work, using the right flavors that don't stink up the room (I'm told by an unnamed person in my house that coffee and expresso are not quite stealth). However, don't drop your PV in the toilet like a couple in this thread have done.
 
Well it's been several weeks since I've started with my bloog.Wow this has been tough to kick the analogs, I think the stress in my life right now is making it tougher. When I'm home on weekends or around the family, the bloog is fine for me. But when I'm at work I go right back to analogs.I have a new construction project starting off, so lots of added stress right now. I want this to work, but the mental road blocks are killing me.I even went to the doc and got a script for zyban, been on it about three weeks - still haven't been able to kick the analogs. It's all in my head, I know this but still have issues dropping them altogether.I will say that I've been able to go longer without a cig with no "jonesing" issues.
What nicotine level did you get in your pre-filled cartomizers?
Was going to ask the same question. Maybe get some higher nic cartos just for work? Whatever you do, don't give up on it.
I originally started with the 6, but then tried some 11s. The 11s are noticeably different/better. The more I think about my whole situation is that it's stress and mental roadblocks keeping me on the analogs. The funny thing is that during the week, I still end up smoking close to a half pack a day, hardly even use the bloog.The vaping is a nice substitute, but something about it for me just isn't equal to the analogs, which is why I keep going back. I've noticed the feel of the bloog (weight) is totally different, I can't really hold it like an analog and then it's just weird to do it in public. People hound you about it. All of these are my own mental roadblocks, which makes me think it isn't even the smoking/nicotine addiction. Just F'd in the head right now, have almost 20 people working under me on this project, acting like they've never done this before :hot: ; some pressure from client, upper managers, etc. Driving me nuts. My smoke breaks are really just to step out and clear my head/get away from people more than "needing" a cig.
Everyone (at least on here) who has encountered similar problems has made the same "mistake", getting carts with way too low a nicotine content. Get some 24 mg carts (or maybe 16/18mg if you were a very light smoker or only smoked very light cigs) and then step out for "smoke" breaks when you normally would, and I'm fairly confident you'll notice a dramatic change.
Wow! I have to completely agree EvilGrin once again. I settled into 18s & 24's (36's damn near killed me) when I first started just to get comfortable going without analogs. Over the past couple weeks I've managed to widdle that down to 6's and 11's. I don't think I could've managed starting that low. Do yourself a favor and try some higher nic carts for those times when you really feel the need for an analog.
 
'Fullback Fro said:
Whats the website for the REO Grand?
reosmods.com
taking the pluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuundge
It's a whole different ballgame. My recommendation to you is to buy 2 AW IMR High Drain 18650 batteries (supertmanufacturing.com is the cheapest I've found, $10.49 EA), a charger that will hold 18650s, a few Cisco 306 atomizers and an acrylic 306 drip tip from avidvaper.com. That's the setup that has given me the best results, although some swear by 510 atomizers. I find the 306s to be better workhorse performers. Buy these ASAP so you'll have them in hand when the Grand arrives. Then, you can just plug and play.
 
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'Fullback Fro said:
Whats the website for the REO Grand?
reosmods.com
taking the pluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuundge
It's a whole different ballgame. My recommendation to you is to buy 2 AW IMR High Drain 18650 batteries (supertmanufacturing.com is the cheapest I've found, $10.49 EA), a charger that will hold 18650s, a few Cisco 306 atomizers and an acrylic 306 drip tip from avidvaper.com. That's the setup that has given me the best results, although some swear by 510 atomizers. I find the 306s to be better workhorse performers. Buy these ASAP so you'll have them in hand when the Grand arrives. Then, you can just plug and play.
Thanks. Will do. You are the man.
 
1st Day -0- cigs!! :D

(yesterday only one at 04:00)

...but somebody's gotta slow me down--just filled my fourth eGo tank with 24mg--when's too much too much?

 
1st Day -0- cigs!! :D (yesterday only one at 04:00)...but somebody's gotta slow me down--just filled my fourth eGo tank with 24mg--when's too much too much?
That's not really all that bad. Four tanks is right around 4ml or so. Some of those cats at ECF vape up to 10ml a day. The ego just makes it really easy to vape a lot.
 
1st Day -0- cigs!! :D (yesterday only one at 04:00)...but somebody's gotta slow me down--just filled my fourth eGo tank with 24mg--when's too much too much?
Forget how much you are vaping, you are getting off tobacco, and you are doing great. Eye on the prize, get off the cigs. Worry about how much you vape later on, it isn't important now. Good job, keep it up!
 
Thanks guys; maybe I'm just overthinking this. A close friend at work was just prescribed some nic inhalers which sound really strong to me (4mg in 20 minutes), and I'm working with her too while she's trying to quit. We've been smoking buddies for years--now it's time to be quitting buddies! Had a chance to let her try my ecig yesterday and of course it tasted good to her so I want to know what I'm talking about. I also especially don't want to increase nicotine intake over cigarets, because there are problems with the nicotine itself which I have to deal with already. :(

Really happy with the capaccino and dulce de leche flavor liquids I got and going to order some more to make sure not to run out. Probably try a couple more flavors too.

Feeling pretty comfortable with the 24's so might not go to 36's as intended; the only tough times seem to be evenings drinking beer. I'm not around other smokers when drinking though so when it's really bugging me I just get crazy into something else like gardening or projects around the house.

Finally getting around to ordering these:

Order this when you get a chance and thank me later.
I'm almost, like..."why mess with success?!!"--but feeling like I want to experiment a little. Heck, after removing one of the two tip inserts you referred to earlier I'm getting enough of a hit to blow smoke rings, but I'm curious to see if I can box the habit into my old smoking schedule instead of constantly like it's been the past week. I'm really fortunate that everyone at work accepts me vaping all the time and everywhere; it's a pretty high profile job. They--and I--are pretty amazed at how successful it's been after all these years! :thumbup:
 
Ha, one of the hazards of getting to 29 pages is now I can't find info I'm looking for (well, technically I'm just too lazy to figure out where the info is). Wingnut had posted info on doublers and Tasty Vapor which is of interest to me right now. I've been looking at Tasty Vapor e-liquids since I'm now buying juice & they had such great reviews in this thread. I noticed they have my current favorite (Bananas Foster) on sale. Problem is, I use 18 mg and apparently they only offer in 12/24/36/48. So, I'm needing a crash course in doublers and also have a questions on PG/sweetener options.

1. Doublers: The juices come in 1 oz, and doublers come in 2 oz. Can anyone confirm if I get the 1 oz 48 mg and mix with 2 oz doubler, it's basically the same as getting 3 oz of 16 mg nicotine juice (i.e. 48 mg divided by 3 oz = 16 mg) and I can eek it closer to 18 mg by skimping a few ml of the doubler? Other option would be to get the 36 mg and just use half of the 2 oz doubler to get it to 18 mg, but in either case I'm doing a little bit of pouring guesswork. If I go 48 mg it would be a heck of a bargain getting roughly 90 ml for $20. Probably last me as long as 100+ cartomizers for the cost of 10 prefilleds.

2. They ask for a PG level. I seem to recall Wingnut saying 20% PG is the best ratio for good TH. Can anyone confirm 20% is the way to go for both the e-liquid and doubler?

3. There's a **Sweetener Recommended** note at the top of the screen for this flavor and a yes/no sweetener option... probably a no brainer given the TV recommendation, but get the sweetener?

BTW- 10 more IKEN KR-808 megas just arrived today so I'm set. Anyone who likes Bloog carts would love the IKEN KG-808 Megas. Just a great quality cartomizer, holds a lot of fluid and not as susceptible to burn out as the V4L cartomizers if you top them off daily. They're just solid [*but remember, these are not for use on USB Pass Thrus, just for 808 batteries]. Doesn't bother me a bit; since I got the Iken Megas I stopped using the pass thru. I was burning out V4L cartomizers way prematurely using PT.
JimId go the route of ordering the 36mg nic juice and using half the 2oz doubler to make it 18mg, or just buy 2oz of nic juice and a 4oz doubler.

Measuring half of the doubler is easy: 1 tablespoon = half ounce.

Geoff at TV recommends ordering the sweetener for most flavors, so Id order it for sure (I did with my Waffle juice).

Also, I ordered 20% VG (not PG), but 30% would be fine IMO.
First time for me ordering liquids as well...I haven't seen where to specify 20% VG--would that be during the ordering process?
 
Ha, one of the hazards of getting to 29 pages is now I can't find info I'm looking for (well, technically I'm just too lazy to figure out where the info is). Wingnut had posted info on doublers and Tasty Vapor which is of interest to me right now. I've been looking at Tasty Vapor e-liquids since I'm now buying juice & they had such great reviews in this thread. I noticed they have my current favorite (Bananas Foster) on sale. Problem is, I use 18 mg and apparently they only offer in 12/24/36/48. So, I'm needing a crash course in doublers and also have a questions on PG/sweetener options.

1. Doublers: The juices come in 1 oz, and doublers come in 2 oz. Can anyone confirm if I get the 1 oz 48 mg and mix with 2 oz doubler, it's basically the same as getting 3 oz of 16 mg nicotine juice (i.e. 48 mg divided by 3 oz = 16 mg) and I can eek it closer to 18 mg by skimping a few ml of the doubler? Other option would be to get the 36 mg and just use half of the 2 oz doubler to get it to 18 mg, but in either case I'm doing a little bit of pouring guesswork. If I go 48 mg it would be a heck of a bargain getting roughly 90 ml for $20. Probably last me as long as 100+ cartomizers for the cost of 10 prefilleds.

2. They ask for a PG level. I seem to recall Wingnut saying 20% PG is the best ratio for good TH. Can anyone confirm 20% is the way to go for both the e-liquid and doubler?

3. There's a **Sweetener Recommended** note at the top of the screen for this flavor and a yes/no sweetener option... probably a no brainer given the TV recommendation, but get the sweetener?

BTW- 10 more IKEN KR-808 megas just arrived today so I'm set. Anyone who likes Bloog carts would love the IKEN KG-808 Megas. Just a great quality cartomizer, holds a lot of fluid and not as susceptible to burn out as the V4L cartomizers if you top them off daily. They're just solid [*but remember, these are not for use on USB Pass Thrus, just for 808 batteries]. Doesn't bother me a bit; since I got the Iken Megas I stopped using the pass thru. I was burning out V4L cartomizers way prematurely using PT.
JimId go the route of ordering the 36mg nic juice and using half the 2oz doubler to make it 18mg, or just buy 2oz of nic juice and a 4oz doubler.

Measuring half of the doubler is easy: 1 tablespoon = half ounce.

Geoff at TV recommends ordering the sweetener for most flavors, so Id order it for sure (I did with my Waffle juice).

Also, I ordered 20% VG (not PG), but 30% would be fine IMO.
First time for me ordering liquids as well...I haven't seen where to specify 20% VG--would that be during the ordering process?
I believe so. I dont remember for sure, but I know you cant go through the whole process without specifying how much VG you want. Make sure you read the bottom of the page where it tells the max VG you can order in the nic juice. Im posting from my phone so I cant go check real quick, but Im pretty sure its when you add it to your cart.
 
So I blindly ordered some Apple juice from V4L because I really started to like BWB's applewood. The V4L is pretty close actually, a little less flavor but not bad.

Also picked up an xl battery on clearence for $12.50. DEAL!

 
Ha, one of the hazards of getting to 29 pages is now I can't find info I'm looking for (well, technically I'm just too lazy to figure out where the info is). Wingnut had posted info on doublers and Tasty Vapor which is of interest to me right now. I've been looking at Tasty Vapor e-liquids since I'm now buying juice & they had such great reviews in this thread. I noticed they have my current favorite (Bananas Foster) on sale. Problem is, I use 18 mg and apparently they only offer in 12/24/36/48. So, I'm needing a crash course in doublers and also have a questions on PG/sweetener options.

1. Doublers: The juices come in 1 oz, and doublers come in 2 oz. Can anyone confirm if I get the 1 oz 48 mg and mix with 2 oz doubler, it's basically the same as getting 3 oz of 16 mg nicotine juice (i.e. 48 mg divided by 3 oz = 16 mg) and I can eek it closer to 18 mg by skimping a few ml of the doubler? Other option would be to get the 36 mg and just use half of the 2 oz doubler to get it to 18 mg, but in either case I'm doing a little bit of pouring guesswork. If I go 48 mg it would be a heck of a bargain getting roughly 90 ml for $20. Probably last me as long as 100+ cartomizers for the cost of 10 prefilleds.

2. They ask for a PG level. I seem to recall Wingnut saying 20% PG is the best ratio for good TH. Can anyone confirm 20% is the way to go for both the e-liquid and doubler?

3. There's a **Sweetener Recommended** note at the top of the screen for this flavor and a yes/no sweetener option... probably a no brainer given the TV recommendation, but get the sweetener?

BTW- 10 more IKEN KR-808 megas just arrived today so I'm set. Anyone who likes Bloog carts would love the IKEN KG-808 Megas. Just a great quality cartomizer, holds a lot of fluid and not as susceptible to burn out as the V4L cartomizers if you top them off daily. They're just solid [*but remember, these are not for use on USB Pass Thrus, just for 808 batteries]. Doesn't bother me a bit; since I got the Iken Megas I stopped using the pass thru. I was burning out V4L cartomizers way prematurely using PT.
JimId go the route of ordering the 36mg nic juice and using half the 2oz doubler to make it 18mg, or just buy 2oz of nic juice and a 4oz doubler.

Measuring half of the doubler is easy: 1 tablespoon = half ounce.

Geoff at TV recommends ordering the sweetener for most flavors, so Id order it for sure (I did with my Waffle juice).

Also, I ordered 20% VG (not PG), but 30% would be fine IMO.
First time for me ordering liquids as well...I haven't seen where to specify 20% VG--would that be during the ordering process?
V4L (and most others I imagine) just allows you to vary nic level, and everything they sell is the same PG/VG mix (other than VG juice). Tasty Vapors allows you to customize VG with certain limits based on the nic mg. However, TV custom mixes individual orders and most other places sell premixed. That said, I don't think I would adjust V4L juices even if I could. I'm a huge fan of their juices I've tried as-is.
 
V4L (and most others I imagine) just allows you to vary nic level, and everything they sell is the same PG/VG mix (other than VG juice). Tasty Vapors allows you to customize VG with certain limits based on the nic mg. However, TV custom mixes individual orders and most other places sell premixed. That said, I don't think I would adjust V4L juices even if I could. I'm a huge fan of their juices I've tried as-is.
Wow. That says a lot. Can those flavors not be duplicated or is it just better juice? What's the VG/PG ratio and is 20/80 still considered best?
 
V4L (and most others I imagine) just allows you to vary nic level, and everything they sell is the same PG/VG mix (other than VG juice). Tasty Vapors allows you to customize VG with certain limits based on the nic mg. However, TV custom mixes individual orders and most other places sell premixed. That said, I don't think I would adjust V4L juices even if I could. I'm a huge fan of their juices I've tried as-is.
Wow. That says a lot. Can those flavors not be duplicated or is it just better juice? What's the VG/PG ratio and is 20/80 still considered best?
V4L juices are about 80/20 PG/VG for Premium, and closer to 70/30 for WOW juices. Its not public info, but a few reps at ECF have said this much.Myself, I like anywhere from 20-30% VG. I tried a couple 50/50 and one that was labeled 100% PG, but Im not sure if the label was correct (got it in a sample pack from a vaper at ECF, and even she wasnt sure of the vendor or the ratio.

PG/VG ratios are just a matter of preference for everyone. Some like more VG, others like less. Ya just gotta find out what you like.

 
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Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.

 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
How do you enroll?
 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
How do you enroll?
Here is the link initially used for enrollments. There was mention on the website that this was initially supposed to be a limited-quantity list but I'd use it and see if it works. I just signed up over the past 45 days. You also can visit the Vapor4Life forum, or email a V4L agent for more info if it doesn't work.
 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
How do you enroll?
Here is the link initially used for enrollments. There was mention on the website that this was initially supposed to be a limited-quantity list but I'd use it and see if it works. I just signed up over the past 45 days. You also can visit the Vapor4Life forum, or email a V4L agent for more info if it doesn't work.
:thumbup: Worked, thanks!
 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
lol...I just got my juice order in the mail yesterday, but after getting the email this morning I went ahead and ordered a couple more batteries.....damn V4L and their awesome deals...Really liking their Apple flavored juice. My new all-dayer.
 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
lol...I just got my juice order in the mail yesterday, but after getting the email this morning I went ahead and ordered a couple more batteries.....damn V4L and their awesome deals...Really liking their Apple flavored juice. My new all-dayer.
LOL... someone on the V4L board posted "I have to say I saved over $256.25 today"... holy smokes, a $630 order :lmao:
 
Wow, just got 40% off a V4L order on a V4L family promo. Anyone who is a V4L customer should definitely sign up for the program because the sales are excellent. Just got $69 worth of juice/spare XL manual for $39+ $6.95 shipping. The sale is basically 40% off from noon-3 PM today, 33% off between 3PM-5PM today and 27% off from then through 4/17 (all times CST, no purchase limit for any). Promo code is V4LFamily17 but not sure if that code works until you enroll into the V4L Family plan (free, but I recall it takes a while to confirm enrollment). Still very worth it for the future for anyone planning to order from V4L.
lol...I just got my juice order in the mail yesterday, but after getting the email this morning I went ahead and ordered a couple more batteries.....damn V4L and their awesome deals...Really liking their Apple flavored juice. My new all-dayer.
LOL... someone on the V4L board posted "I have to say I saved over $256.25 today"... holy smokes vapes, a $630 order :lmao:
fixed. ;)
 
REOGrand order confirmed. Luckily I had two browsers sessions working. The first one got all the way to payment then said the product was out of stock. The second one made it through and I actually like the colors better.

Thanks for the tips EG. Most of them are already sold out save for some weak color combos. I suspect those will be gone in a matter if minutes as well.

 
Whats the website for the REO Grand?
reosmods.com
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It's a whole different ballgame. My recommendation to you is to buy 2 AW IMR High Drain 18650 batteries (supertmanufacturing.com is the cheapest I've found, $10.49 EA), a charger that will hold 18650s, a few Cisco 306 atomizers and an acrylic 306 drip tip from avidvaper.com. That's the setup that has given me the best results, although some swear by 510 atomizers. I find the 306s to be better workhorse performers. Buy these ASAP so you'll have them in hand when the Grand arrives. Then, you can just plug and play.
Have a couple questions:a charger that will hold 18650s: Where can I but this? And is there a specific kind?

a few Cisco 306 atomizers: Not seeing these specifically in the product catalog or I am misinterpreting the kind

http://www.avidvaper.com/categories/Atomizers/

Is it not available any more?

 

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