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PO Box?Smoke shops sell a few different brands. i can't speak for any other than the Smoke Stick but i started with that and it is a good tobacco flavor and 4 or 5 strength levels.Medium i started with was a pretty good TH and satisfying to me. The regular may be where you want to start though.Here is a store finder for themhttp://smokestik.com/locations.html
You must have a trusted buddy you could ship to, no? I tried one of those N-Joys. Ick. They certainly would not work for me. If I were you, I would just lay the cards out on the table with the little woman. Tell her what is going on, how you want to stop, this is the way, and you need her support. I don't know how something like this can be hidden. Juices, battery chargers...
See, to me it seems like it would be easy...you pretty much just load up a few drops whenever you feel like taking a few hits without having to mess with taking anything apart, aside form the top on the juice bottle...always fresh, never "damn, Im almost out of juice" type of thing. If you were to carry around a 10ml bottle of juice, you could whip it out, drip a few drops, take a few monster hits, and be done with it for a while. Even less work than people who roll their own cigs.Isnt it pretty much as easy as dripping 4 or 5 drops into the drip tip and blasting away, then back into the pocket it goes until I need another nic fix?
Do you have the other half of my amulet? I've sort of mentioned it in a roundabout way, but what you are going through is almost exactly what I was going through 4 weeks ago. Living an absolute lie, waiting anxiously for everytime my wife ran an errand to sneak a cig, dreading xmas weekend at the inlaws. Pathetic. I'm pretty sure the wife knew and was either in denial or just didn't want to confront it. I made a decision some months ago it would be test of my fortitude to clean up my own @%#& mess before it came to getting exposed red handed like a fool. I still could not muster the will until I saw this post, and I'm now cig-free since 2/12... 3-4 days after my ecig kit arrived. I think a few guys have posted here and mentioned dissatisfaction with 7-11 cheapos. No surprise, gotta believe you get what you pay for with this technology. I got an XL starter kit at Vapor 4 Life, and I'd recommend strongly getting that in a manual. If you can't get delivery to your house, then get it sent to a buddy's place or something. Get the right equipment and don't look back. Not only have I not craved a cig recently (even over a long guy's weekend where smokes were blazing), I have come to prefer everything about the ecig. There's nothing I miss. That's from someone who has been a slave to cigarettes 15 of the past 20 years (quit for 5 years, stupidly got hooked just as bad again). The good suppliers provide great replication of the smoking ritual, and improve upon it with outstanding flavors. Getting carts from V4L or Bloog (two favorites here) you can find a flavor you like, increase or decrease nic levels to suit your needs. Trust me, there is a nic level that completely fills your void. Just do it and have a better life now while you plot getting off nic altogether. Keep us posted.'(HULK) said:
Do you have the other half of my amulet? I've sort of mentioned it in a roundabout way, but what you are going through is almost exactly what I was going through 4 weeks ago. Living an absolute lie, waiting anxiously for everytime my wife ran an errand to sneak a cig, dreading xmas weekend at the inlaws. Pathetic. I'm pretty sure the wife knew and was either in denial or just didn't want to confront it. I made a decision some months ago it would be test of my fortitude to clean up my own @%#& mess before it came to getting exposed red handed like a fool. I still could not muster the will until I saw this post, and I'm now cig-free since 2/12... 3-4 days after my ecig kit arrived. I think a few guys have posted here and mentioned dissatisfaction with 7-11 cheapos. No surprise, gotta believe you get what you pay for with this technology. I got an XL starter kit at Vapor 4 Life, and I'd recommend strongly getting that in a manual. If you can't get delivery to your house, then get it sent to a buddy's place or something. Get the right equipment and don't look back. Not only have I not craved a cig recently (even over a long guy's weekend where smokes were blazing), I have come to prefer everything about the ecig. There's nothing I miss. That's from someone who has been a slave to cigarettes 15 of the past 20 years (quit for 5 years, stupidly got hooked just as bad again). The good suppliers provide great replication of the smoking ritual, and improve upon it with outstanding flavors. Getting carts from V4L or Bloog (two favorites here) you can find a flavor you like, increase or decrease nic levels to suit your needs. Trust me, there is a nic level that completely fills your void. Just do it and have a better life now while you plot getting off nic altogether. Keep us posted.'(HULK) said:
Dont let the 7-11 e-cigs define your experience with them. There is MUCH better out there, and I think youll be surprised at the difference in what youve been using. I started with the equivalent of a 7-11 type of e-cig and cartos. The difference in a V4L or Bloog is unreal. Dont give up yet, take Jims advice, and figure out a way to get a kit from one of the companies he mentioned. Just ask questions for suggestions on what flavor(s) and strengths of carts if/when you do order, and you will be pointed in the right direction from the get go, which is something a lot of us didnt have when we started out. Good luck man!Over 6 weeks analog free here, I smoked a pack and a half of full flavor kings for over 20 years.
HOLY COW! Would you guess the added power of the equipment you describe could make up for reduced TH at lower nic levels you reportedly get using base equipment? I'm very satisfied with the XL Auto and pass through, but definitely noting this post for future reference (and to translate your future posts'Rovers said:
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LOL Jim. To be honest, I havent tried lower nic levels on the Buzz. My goal is to stabilize right now, reduce later. But, I fully expect that MODs will outperform any 3.7 volt battery PV across the board including lower nic level cartos. It does deliver more TH, vapor and flavor at 24 to 36 mg than even my TP's do. Few people smoked as heavilly as I did.If you are satisfied with the stuff you have, I'd say stick with it. You might consider a MOD down the road when you reduce nic levels though. The one thing I can't answer is do mods deliver more nic with the same carto compared to a V4L PV? I don't know. They might. I suspect that it's likely.HOLY COW! Would you guess the added power of the equipment you describe could make up for reduced TH at lower nic levels you reportedly get using base equipment? I'm very satisfied with the XL Auto and pass through, but definitely noting this post for future reference (and to translate your future posts'Rovers said:
Dripping is that easy. I've been experimenting with it the last 10 days or so. I've got a regular 510 atomizer, a LR 510 atomizer, and a 306 LR atomizer (same threading as a 510...no adapter needed). The vaping experience is apples and oranges, basically. I said earlier that I had to start vaping in my old cigarette spot of the apartment, and that's for the reason of me putting out WAY too much vapor. There's no "task" to dripping. Yeah, you gotta not fry the atomizer, true. But how you do fry the atomizer? You hit it when it's dry. And you'd have to hit it several times when it's dry to do that. You'll know when it needs juice...trust me. You'll go from flavor to throat-burning in .02 seconds. It's not hard to miss.'Wingnut said:
This is what I was thinking, or maybe assuming...that dripping would be pretty much the ultimate, as youre getting a fresh, solid "session" of hits every time you need it, and it would sort of be akin to the whole cigarette thing. Hitting 100% new, virgin juice every hit at a higher voltage...Thats gotta be the top of the mountain as far as flavor and TH go, no?'Rovers said:
This is where Im at right now...my V4L batts are PERFECT for my needs. The only thing Id want to improve is flavor, as I can never seem to get enough flavor for my taste, even with my TV Waffle, which I have no doubt now is THE most flavorful juice Ive had yet, and there isnt even a close 2nd. I think dripping is the only thing Id move if I changed anything at all...but for now, the gear I have is all I need and I dont want to think about getting even deeper into it. lol. At least not yet.
What is the ACF Forum?
Assistant Coach Forum, sorry couldn't resist.
I actually went there and looked for a thread before posting that question
Nice trade!!
Jesus. That does look sweet, but $250 is going to be tough to justify after having already spent $400. Sooner or later, my wife is going to say - this is costing us more than you smoking.'Gadabout said:
You're currently dripping? Does it really make a huge difference over the carto experience? I've been thinking about a tank mod/atomizer so I could plug a bottle in and go, but I hear a lot about leakage (seems like it would be tough to avoid.) Any other downsides to using this method?
If the Infinity might fry my cartos, maybe the Buzz is right for me. Via Ohm's law, my Bloog is currently putting out 1.48 amps (assuming a 2.5 ohm carto, they vary from 2.2 to 2.6 within a single pack from what I read) - I see that most of the VV mods cut off around 1.9-2.0 amps, meaning I could vape these cartos at 4.2 safely and get that "fresh battery" blast every time. The Bloog 808 batteries crank out 4.2V on a fresh charge, but very quickly settle into the 3.7 sweet spot and stay there basically for the life of the battery (I don't notice a production dropoff until about 10 minutes before the battery dies.) So a VV would enable me to use my existing cartos on it at 4.2-4.4 and also get my dukes on some 2.8-3 ohm Megas for future use. What's the Buzz's amperage cutoff, around 1.9-2.0? RR carts should be able to be vaped at 5.3-6.0V. Now THAT is blasting away !'Rovers said:
Welcome aboard, GB. Believe me, if you WANT these to replace cigarettes, they will. It's not as simple as just dropping one, picking up the other, and you're home free. But, it reduces the degree of difficulty if you truly want to quit from a 10 to about a 2.'Kilgore Trout said:
Thanks for all your advice here, Rovers. Funny how quickly you go from the guy looking for advice to the guy giving it, isn't it?
I'm all about versatility/options. Here's what I'm thinking of ordering :
Yeah, it'll take a lot to get me away from dripping now. I haven't tried all that many different cartomizers, but I've tried enough. They were doing the job until I ordered a few atomizers out of curiosity. To me it's a night and day difference on all levels (vapor, flavor, TH). The downside is that it's a lot of work to constantly keep dripping 3-4 drops in there. To me, it doesn't really matter because I know the reason that I'm taking such measures. None of your juice gets wasted. Every night before I go to bed I just take whatever atomizers I used that day and blow out any of the excess juice that may have been hanging around inside. There's a million and one different ways to clean these things and a couple of nights ago I opted to just set them in a ramekin of boiling-hot distilled water for a couple of minutes. After that I did what they call a dry burn, and I was back rock-n-rollin' after that...with gunk-free atomizers. Some people do a cleaning like that a couple times a week, some once a week, some once every three weeks, etc, etc. I've also read that once you know the in's and out's of atomizers, you can get at least a month's worth of use out of one of them. Some say they've had them for six months. I'm thinking that if I can get a month out of the three atomizers ($8 a pop), I'll be in good shape because the only other expense after that would be the juice. Not bad. Those Map tank things do seem cool but I've read mixed reviews on them. Plus, the direction I'm heading is one towards either a box mod that's juice fed or that Eclipse thing I linked earlier. I know that if I got something like the Buzz or Infinity I would drip with it. And I know I'd probably think that it'd be a whole lot better if I didn't have to constantly keep dripping onto the atomizer. So I figure I'll just outsmart vaping evolution and just jump right in to the box mod world. A fully charged set of batteries and the 5 or 6ml juice box inside and you're set all day. To me that's the ultimate convenience coupled with the best vape possible. Dripping without having to actually drip. That's what I want.Jesus. That does look sweet, but $250 is going to be tough to justify after having already spent $400. Sooner or later, my wife is going to say - this is costing us more than you smoking.'Gadabout said:You're currently dripping? Does it really make a huge difference over the carto experience? I've been thinking about a tank mod/atomizer so I could plug a bottle in and go, but I hear a lot about leakage (seems like it would be tough to avoid.) Any other downsides to using this method?
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Thanks for adding that...
Some guy just recommended the REO Grand to me.. GrimmGreen has a video review of it. I have to admit, it looks pretty cool. He uses a cartomizer with it - why, I don't know.Yeah, it'll take a lot to get me away from dripping now. I haven't tried all that many different cartomizers, but I've tried enough. They were doing the job until I ordered a few atomizers out of curiosity. To me it's a night and day difference on all levels (vapor, flavor, TH). The downside is that it's a lot of work to constantly keep dripping 3-4 drops in there. To me, it doesn't really matter because I know the reason that I'm taking such measures. None of your juice gets wasted. Every night before I go to bed I just take whatever atomizers I used that day and blow out any of the excess juice that may have been hanging around inside. There's a million and one different ways to clean these things and a couple of nights ago I opted to just set them in a ramekin of boiling-hot distilled water for a couple of minutes. After that I did what they call a dry burn, and I was back rock-n-rollin' after that...with gunk-free atomizers. Some people do a cleaning like that a couple times a week, some once a week, some once every three weeks, etc, etc. I've also read that once you know the in's and out's of atomizers, you can get at least a month's worth of use out of one of them. Some say they've had them for six months. I'm thinking that if I can get a month out of the three atomizers ($8 a pop), I'll be in good shape because the only other expense after that would be the juice. Not bad. Those Map tank things do seem cool but I've read mixed reviews on them. Plus, the direction I'm heading is one towards either a box mod that's juice fed or that Eclipse thing I linked earlier. I know that if I got something like the Buzz or Infinity I would drip with it. And I know I'd probably think that it'd be a whole lot better if I didn't have to constantly keep dripping onto the atomizer. So I figure I'll just outsmart vaping evolution and just jump right in to the box mod world. A fully charged set of batteries and the 5 or 6ml juice box inside and you're set all day. To me that's the ultimate convenience coupled with the best vape possible. Dripping without having to actually drip. That's what I want.Jesus. That does look sweet, but $250 is going to be tough to justify after having already spent $400. Sooner or later, my wife is going to say - this is costing us more than you smoking.'Gadabout said:
I don't have any cool carts, I only have 5 WOW cartos from V4L and the other 40 are all MaxxFusion cartos.What are the supposed advantages of the Infinity over the Buzz, besides being $20 cheaper and having the thumbwheel to adjust V rather than the tiny screw?
I can't stand the fact that there might be an even better vaping experience out there that I'm not trying. I thought I was done spending money for a while. Son of a #####.
Those Reo Grands are pretty sweet. Had I not got caught up with all that Eclipse madness I would probably already have bought one. That system just seems to make the most sense to me and my needs. The one thing I did do right so far was purchase that eGo-T system. I no longer use the atomizer and tank setup that it came with due to performance issues, but the eGo batteries are very diverse and I'm mixing and matching them with the loads of ego accessories that are available out there. Plus I can use any other 510 or 306 atomizer/cartomizer out there. This is what allowed me to branch out and really find what I liked most.And when I drip, I'm using my ego batteries (3.7v, one is 650mah and the other is 1000mah). I have three atomizers in rotation right now. The LR 306 (1.5ohm), LR 510 (1.5ohm) and the standard resistance 510 (2.5ohm).The 306 is probably my favorite.
In those 10 days I've discovered the Buzz, Mega cartos, 100 different juice vendors etc. I want to start impulse buying all of these things and I haven't even gotten my starter kit from V4L!? Ughhh *Impatient*
Don't despair. I still have my starter kit I received "way back" on Feb. 7th and it's filling my needs just fine. Be happy that all these guys are going through the trial and error so you don't have to!I've already purchased a bunch of carts and juices I don't care for. I think I've figured out that I like the coffe, mocha, chocolate kinds of flavors and none of the fruity or mint stuff. Although strawberry cheesecake from v4l surprised me. Everyone likes Boba's Bounty but I can take it or leave it.The one thing that sucks about being Canadian.... Ordered 10 days ago and still waiting.
lol...join the club. I dont think Ill ever move beyond the V4L/Bloog style PVs...and Im thinking that another couple of months and Ill probably be done with e-cigs altogether. Im finding myself vaping less frequently already, but Im sessioning more now (Im taking 8 or 9 hits in a row, then none for an hour or so). Once I run through the juice I have (and have on the way), Ill see how I feel about it.I think these are actually helping me quit smoking and nicotine altogether, which is way beyond my expectations when I discovered vaping
Really? I'm looking forward to many years of happy vaping!lol...join the club. I dont think Ill ever move beyond the V4L/Bloog style PVs...and Im thinking that another couple of months and Ill probably be done with e-cigs altogether. Im finding myself vaping less frequently already, but Im sessioning more now (Im taking 8 or 9 hits in a row, then none for an hour or so). Once I run through the juice I have (and have on the way), Ill see how I feel about it.I think these are actually helping me quit smoking and nicotine altogether, which is way beyond my expectations when I discovered vaping
That's the goal, at least for me. Getting all of these addiction monkeies off my freakin back. But, it's one step at a time. Going to vaping was and IS a big step. After this, it's baby steps. I really do think I needed a mod to stay off the analogs. I still get some cravings, but less intense and less frequently as time goes by. I do beleive I was the heaviest smoker of our little FBG quitters group. Getting off nicotine will take... as long as it takes. I don't pressure myself on that, but unlike most of you, I DO put all the pressure I can muster on never, ever, ever having another analog. It isn't the caboose that will kill me... it's the steam engine. I haven't even been around smoke since I stopped. I have no real idea if the smell will make me crave or make me gag. I'm in no rush to find out, either. 3 weeks tomorrow baby, THREE weeks!lol...join the club. I dont think Ill ever move beyond the V4L/Bloog style PVs...and Im thinking that another couple of months and Ill probably be done with e-cigs altogether. Im finding myself vaping less frequently already, but Im sessioning more now (Im taking 8 or 9 hits in a row, then none for an hour or so). Once I run through the juice I have (and have on the way), Ill see how I feel about it.I think these are actually helping me quit smoking and nicotine altogether, which is way beyond my expectations when I discovered vaping
That's the goal, at least for me. Getting all of these addiction monkeies off my freakin back. But, it's one step at a time. Going to vaping was and IS a big step. After this, it's baby steps. I really do think I needed a mod to stay off the analogs. I still get some cravings, but less intense and less frequently as time goes by. I do beleive I was the heaviest smoker of our little FBG quitters group. Getting off nicotine will take... as long as it takes. I don't pressure myself on that, but unlike most of you, I DO put all the pressure I can muster on never, ever, ever having another analog. It isn't the caboose that will kill me... it's the steam engine. I haven't even been around smoke since I stopped. I have no real idea if the smell will make me crave or make me gag. I'm in no rush to find out, either. 3 weeks tomorrow baby, THREE weeks!lol...join the club. I dont think Ill ever move beyond the V4L/Bloog style PVs...and Im thinking that another couple of months and Ill probably be done with e-cigs altogether. Im finding myself vaping less frequently already, but Im sessioning more now (Im taking 8 or 9 hits in a row, then none for an hour or so). Once I run through the juice I have (and have on the way), Ill see how I feel about it.I think these are actually helping me quit smoking and nicotine altogether, which is way beyond my expectations when I discovered vaping
...and Im bettin the smell of a real cig would make you gag more than crave. Its insane how bad they smell to me now!
I work in Boston right across from the Garden so on game nights (Bruins, Celts, there are quite a few smokers around. I hate the smell more now than when I did when I was smoking. It's funny I have this slight urge to inform them about this invention that I discovered. To me, it only seems like they just don't know about it. If they did, they'd be vaping. Why wouldn't you be?I'm already trying to tell myself not to pressure my smoking friends too hard about getting into this. I'm sure they've heard of it, but like me, thought it was just kind of a "breath in water vapor and blow it out" sort of thing. When I golf this spring with my buddy I'm going to try and get him to try it. But I'm afraid he may take a quick drag and it isn't the same or he'll just shrug it off without giving it a chance. He's got 3 kids in a small apt.. He and his wife both smoke and I'm SURE that if they've allowed themselves to be a tiny bit patient they would toss the analogs. No more going outside in the freezing winters. No more butts laying on the ground. No more buying pack after pack of $9.00 cigs. But I've got to just let it go if he's not game.That's the goal, at least for me. Getting all of these addiction monkeies off my freakin back. But, it's one step at a time. Going to vaping was and IS a big step. After this, it's baby steps. I really do think I needed a mod to stay off the analogs. I still get some cravings, but less intense and less frequently as time goes by. I do beleive I was the heaviest smoker of our little FBG quitters group. Getting off nicotine will take... as long as it takes. I don't pressure myself on that, but unlike most of you, I DO put all the pressure I can muster on never, ever, ever having another analog. It isn't the caboose that will kill me... it's the steam engine. I haven't even been around smoke since I stopped. I have no real idea if the smell will make me crave or make me gag. I'm in no rush to find out, either. 3 weeks tomorrow baby, THREE weeks!lol...join the club. I dont think Ill ever move beyond the V4L/Bloog style PVs...and Im thinking that another couple of months and Ill probably be done with e-cigs altogether. Im finding myself vaping less frequently already, but Im sessioning more now (Im taking 8 or 9 hits in a row, then none for an hour or so). Once I run through the juice I have (and have on the way), Ill see how I feel about it.I think these are actually helping me quit smoking and nicotine altogether, which is way beyond my expectations when I discovered vaping
