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***EPL 2017-18 Fantasy League*** Drafting - Gianmarco finally picked (2 Viewers)
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Moe.
Footballguy
Ah, thanks for the heads up. Probably would have gone a different direction but it's no big deal, my fault for not checking.
Moe.
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
drunken slob
Footballguy
16.13 Stephen Ward (D) Burnley
Who the hell is after me?
Not familiar with this sober picking stuff
@Sinn Fein, never mind, it's @Christo, correct?
Who the hell is after me?
Not familiar with this sober picking stuff
@Sinn Fein, never mind, it's @Christo, correct?
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ok @Christo is up.
He is free to pick both his 16th and 17th round pick - assuming he makes it tonight.
For everyone else - we will pick up the 17th round as a free-for-all, first come, first served basis at 12:00 noon et tomorrow - we'll let that run for 48 hours until 12:00 noon et on Saturday. At that point, I will finalize the draft, and shift any remaining players to WW. Reminder, once the draft is concluded, only players on the Fantrax list can be selected.
Lets plan on having waivers on Thursday - I might have to run them manually. That would leave it as FAs until each player's game next weekend. But, all new players signed have to pass through waivers - so anyone signed (or added to the player pool) after we run waivers are not eligible to be picked up (I will reverse any such transactions).
He is free to pick both his 16th and 17th round pick - assuming he makes it tonight.
For everyone else - we will pick up the 17th round as a free-for-all, first come, first served basis at 12:00 noon et tomorrow - we'll let that run for 48 hours until 12:00 noon et on Saturday. At that point, I will finalize the draft, and shift any remaining players to WW. Reminder, once the draft is concluded, only players on the Fantrax list can be selected.
Lets plan on having waivers on Thursday - I might have to run them manually. That would leave it as FAs until each player's game next weekend. But, all new players signed have to pass through waivers - so anyone signed (or added to the player pool) after we run waivers are not eligible to be picked up (I will reverse any such transactions).
We have one more issue to address - position eligibility. I inquired about Victor Moses, and this was the response:
In year's past, Fantrax made eligibility adjustments - but we do not currently have any rules set up here.
So, the first question - do we want to allow for updated position eligibility?
And second, if we do, how many games played are sufficient to add a position to a player?
In year's past, Fantrax made eligibility adjustments - but we do not currently have any rules set up here.
So, the first question - do we want to allow for updated position eligibility?
And second, if we do, how many games played are sufficient to add a position to a player?
gianmarco
Footballguy
I'm open to either way. It was frustrating watching Milner play as a LB all year last year yet his position remained as a MF for more than half the year so I can understand the desire to be able to change it. On the other hand, it can get messy and leaving it as designated makes it simple.
If a player has played at the position he's listed at even once then I think it needs to remain. If it's a permanent change and he's been there for 5 or more weeks, then I think it's reasonable to allow the change to be made.
I think we would be talking about adding positions - so a player would always be eligible at whatever he is now.
Based on the response from Fantrax - I don't think Milner would have been changed at all this season - since we have not set up any rules. He would remain as the default setting.
Also - I should add - these changes would have to be based on Opta's classification of the player in each match - I am not interested in an argument about how a player is used. So, in my example - Opta may classify Victor Moses as a Midfielder in every game, and he would not be eligible as a Defender.
gianmarco
Footballguy
3 Klopp sees something in Solanke
The other interesting selection, perhaps, on a night which had few moments worthy of that word, was Klopp's decision to select Dominic Solanke to lead the line ahead of Divock Origi. The Belgian picked up a minor injury earlier in pre-season, but was fit enough to come on for the last half hour here. He is a full international and a proven goalscorer, but the Reds boss clearly sees something in his young signing from Chelsea, and has given him plenty of opportunities this summer. The striker has not disappointed, and looks a good signing.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Can't argue with this. I would leave things alone and let the system be the default. We can discuss this change for next year in our keeper league!
Well, the only difference is that in years past, players eligibility would be changed automatically by Fantrax. So, if anything, we have changed the rules for this season
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
So Fantrax isn't doing it at all this year?
I have no idea if I'm reading it all right, but if we're going to do it outside of Fantrax then it should be based on some other site's classification of position changes, not something we implement manually.
Although if we do the latter please change Dele Alli's position to CB. Thanks.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Sure, let's let him have the 1.1 pick and get the 1st pick in the 17th round too while inconveniencing everyone by making us wait for his vacation. I say we start the free-for-all now and he can jump in with his 2 picks whenever he decides to grace us with his presence.........
All in favor?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Last year, Fantrax updated the players positions during the season. This year, it seems they have left it to the individual leagues as to how/when they want to implement the changes. We currently don't have a rule in place to deal with that.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
OK, so Opta only sets position eligibility at the beginning of the season, it doesn't update in season? Sorry if I'm being dense here.
No its confusing.
Fantrax uses OPTA for position eligibility - i.e. they make no determinations on their own.
Right now fantrax defaults to OPTA's positions at the start of the season. Each match they get stats from OPTA that are the official stats. I assume within that stats package they get from OPTA are positions for each player. We can set up a rule in the league to add position eligibility based on a number of games played at a position.
Last few years, position changes happened automatically (i.e. at some point, Fantrax made Milner have a Defense position, in addition to a midfield position), this year, it appears that each league has to set rules for adding position eligibility, or keep the default positions from the start of the season.
gianmarco
Footballguy
I went back to check how we handled it last year, and that %^&*@! had the top pick overall then also...but, he made his back-to-back picks and we went straight to the free-for-all.
I would do that - if Christo picks in a reasonable time. But, since he has usually been checking in late at night in España, which is middle of the night here on the east coast, I wanted to make sure everyone who wanted to be first in line had the same chance. 12 noon, is late enough for the left coast to be up if they were so inclined to make an early pick.
Moe.
Footballguy
How does the "official" salary cap game handle this position crap? Do they make changes throughout the year?
My suggestion would be to have an individual add a post to this thread if they think someone's position should be changed. Then @Sinn Fein makes a decision and promises to be super fair.
My suggestion would be to have an individual add a post to this thread if they think someone's position should be changed. Then @Sinn Fein makes a decision and promises to be super fair.
Eephus
Footballguy
The official game has no players with dual positional eligibility or in-season changes e.g. Rooney is a FWD regardless of how deep he gets played.
I think this is the easiest way to handle this. Soccer has more fluid positions than American sports so reclassifying is always going to be a gray area. I don't think any players are eligible for two positions now. I'd vote to keep it that way because it's unambiguous and fair.
Thats a lot of pressure...
Honestly though - I'd rather not be involved. I am happy to settle on an arbitrary third party like OPTA than try to figure out if a wing back is a Defender or a Midfielder.
Its unambiguous - I don't know about fair. Given that we have had position changes in previous years, it was reasonable to expect that to be the case this year...
Last season there were 18 players affected - most inconsequential.
8 players were classified as D,M - notably Milner and Elmohamedy
1 player was classified as D,F - Demetrie Mitchel - played one game for ManU - I am guessing he was originally a forward, and then played as a WB
9 players were classified as M,F - Andre Ayew only real player of consequence.
8 players were classified as D,M - notably Milner and Elmohamedy
1 player was classified as D,F - Demetrie Mitchel - played one game for ManU - I am guessing he was originally a forward, and then played as a WB
9 players were classified as M,F - Andre Ayew only real player of consequence.
The Gator
Footballguy
drunken slob
Footballguy
Don't have a problem with Christo taking the first "Wild Card" pick.
None of you can possibly believe that who you take now will make a difference after seeing over 200+ players go off the board. Hell, just last season I took two dudes that were already taken in the 17th
. Don't feel like linking back to the thread from last season. But I made this great pronunciation about a guy and saw that he was gone, then took another guy only to find out @The Gator had taken him two hours before I came in to show my supremacy. I declared the pick as final and got the the good ole 
and moved on. Entered the season with 15 players and Carlos Bacca as my spec pick. So anybody that thinks this last pick is important, forget it.
Just my
None of you can possibly believe that who you take now will make a difference after seeing over 200+ players go off the board. Hell, just last season I took two dudes that were already taken in the 17th
. Don't feel like linking back to the thread from last season. But I made this great pronunciation about a guy and saw that he was gone, then took another guy only to find out @The Gator had taken him two hours before I came in to show my supremacy. I declared the pick as final and got the the good ole and moved on. Entered the season with 15 players and Carlos Bacca as my spec pick. So anybody that thinks this last pick is important, forget it.Just my
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drunken slob
Footballguy
As for position eligibility, I vote no less than 10 games/weeks/scoring periods and am willing to go as high as 20.
Things change over the course of a season. 10 in this league to start is no less than 2 months with 20 getting close to December. In the past, I have sent multiple complaints to Fantrax about players over the last 2 years. None of them have been complimentary, and some have been downright mean.
I have no problem with players having multi-position eligibility over the course of a season.
Just my
Things change over the course of a season. 10 in this league to start is no less than 2 months with 20 getting close to December. In the past, I have sent multiple complaints to Fantrax about players over the last 2 years. None of them have been complimentary, and some have been downright mean.
I have no problem with players having multi-position eligibility over the course of a season.
Just my
gianmarco
Footballguy
Thought it was obvious but I was completely kidding.Don't have a problem with Christo taking the first "Wild Card" pick.
None of you can possibly believe that who you take now will make a difference after seeing over 200+ players go off the board. Hell, just last season I took two dudes that were already taken in the 17th
Just my
It's still Christo, though.
drunken slob
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
If you are taking shots, Christo went thataway =======>I've had a lot to drink, so, my apologies. Not taking shots at anybody, my bad
Reminder Round 17, sans Christo, starts at 12:00 noon ET - closes at 12:00 noon et on Saturday.
At that point all players will be placed on waivers. I will run one waiver period at 9:00 PM ET* on Wednesday night - after than players will be available to be picked up as FAs until their game starts.
* I will try to do this as close to 9:00 as I can
Reminders:
1. If you have drafted a non-league player, I have assigned a place holder for your team - typically a Spurs youth player, but not always - the place holder is for your benefit - it prevents you from accidentally filling a blank roster spot. If you drop the place holder - it is the same as dropping your non-league player.
2. Once round 17 ends, only players on Fantrax's list are eligible to be picked up via waivers or FA - i.e. no more speculative non-league picks.
3. All newly signed players must go through waivers once before you can pick them up. The league should be set up to do this automatically - but if something slips through the cracks - this is your notice that I will reverse the transaction. So, if a player is signed on Wednesday, but not added to the Fantrax site until Thursday - you cannot pick up that player until after the Week 1 waivers.
4. I will usually catch when players are added to the fantrax site via email reminders they send out to everyone - if I see a player added who has already been drafted, I will manually put them on your roster - would not hurt to send me a PM if you see it also...
At that point all players will be placed on waivers. I will run one waiver period at 9:00 PM ET* on Wednesday night - after than players will be available to be picked up as FAs until their game starts.
* I will try to do this as close to 9:00 as I can
Reminders:
1. If you have drafted a non-league player, I have assigned a place holder for your team - typically a Spurs youth player, but not always - the place holder is for your benefit - it prevents you from accidentally filling a blank roster spot. If you drop the place holder - it is the same as dropping your non-league player.
2. Once round 17 ends, only players on Fantrax's list are eligible to be picked up via waivers or FA - i.e. no more speculative non-league picks.
3. All newly signed players must go through waivers once before you can pick them up. The league should be set up to do this automatically - but if something slips through the cracks - this is your notice that I will reverse the transaction. So, if a player is signed on Wednesday, but not added to the Fantrax site until Thursday - you cannot pick up that player until after the Week 1 waivers.
4. I will usually catch when players are added to the fantrax site via email reminders they send out to everyone - if I see a player added who has already been drafted, I will manually put them on your roster - would not hurt to send me a PM if you see it also...
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Brady Marino
Footballguy
Been eyeing him for a few rounds, especially since Newcastle plans on featuring him a lot. Good pick.Christo said:
Brady Marino
Footballguy
17.xx- Matthew Ryan, G, Brighton
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