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Great speech.
spoke in her best male voice...ridiculous....Courageous is a child not knowing when they are going to have their next meal or glass of clean drinking water. Being rich and wanting to know what it is like to have a p***y is not Courageous.

 
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@CraigSJ: You think that 40% trans suicide rate is nuts until you put someone trans on national TV for ten minutes and see how people react.
Or perhaps they have severe mental issues leading to a delusion that can only be realized through expensive, unnatural and life changing procedures. Maybe if the psych community looked to treat the issue like a destructive disorder instead of placating it as a reality they could lower that number and get some people back onto a healthy life path.
Oh yea that's it
Could be. It's not the popular opinion, but some in the psych community believe that.
 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.

 
@CraigSJ: You think that 40% trans suicide rate is nuts until you put someone trans on national TV for ten minutes and see how people react.
Or perhaps they have severe mental issues leading to a delusion that can only be realized through expensive, unnatural and life changing procedures. Maybe if the psych community looked to treat the issue like a destructive disorder instead of placating it as a reality they could lower that number and get some people back onto a healthy life path.
Oh yea that's it
Could be. It's not the popular opinion, but some in the psych community believe that.
I highly doubt any licensed psychiatrist thinks they.

 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
:lmao: What's he supposed to do, turn it down?

He should have been the finals MVP and the only reason he wasn't was because they have some unwritten rule about giving it to someone on the winning team.

 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
:lmao: What's he supposed to do, turn it down?

He should have been the finals MVP and the only reason he wasn't was because they have some unwritten rule about giving it to someone on the winning team.
You know if Lebron can't make the show someone else wins right?

 
@CraigSJ: You think that 40% trans suicide rate is nuts until you put someone trans on national TV for ten minutes and see how people react.
Or perhaps they have severe mental issues leading to a delusion that can only be realized through expensive, unnatural and life changing procedures. Maybe if the psych community looked to treat the issue like a destructive disorder instead of placating it as a reality they could lower that number and get some people back onto a healthy life path.
Oh yea that's it
Could be. It's not the popular opinion, but some in the psych community believe that.
I highly doubt any licensed psychiatrist thinks they.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change
 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
:lmao: What's he supposed to do, turn it down?

He should have been the finals MVP and the only reason he wasn't was because they have some unwritten rule about giving it to someone on the winning team.
You know if Lebron can't make the show someone else wins right?
Sorry, didn't realize you wee fishing. Carry on.
 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
:lmao: What's he supposed to do, turn it down?

He should have been the finals MVP and the only reason he wasn't was because they have some unwritten rule about giving it to someone on the winning team.
You know if Lebron can't make the show someone else wins right?
Sorry, didn't realize you wee fishing. Carry on.
:confused:

 
nobody has ever cared about who won the award until tonight.

Great job by ESPN, got tons of attention. Mission accomplished.
I remember seeing a ton of people on my Facebook #####ing about it. I'd say 95% of them had no idea what the ESPY's were, had never seen the ESPY's and couldn't name any of the previous winners for the award. It caused a bunch of whining over something most people had no idea existed. Worked for ESPN as it created interest in the show.

I still personally haven't watched the ESPY's in about 4-5 years.

 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
While we're on the subject: How does the woman who scored the hat trick in the first sixteen minutes of the World Cup Final not even get a nomination?

 
Jesus, the wussification of America continues. You have grown men watching and arguing about an award show like a bunch of women.

I expected Curly Night to have been glued to her TV, the rest of you should be ashamed.

 
Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
While we're on the subject: How does the woman who scored the hat trick in the first sixteen minutes of the World Cup Final not even get a nomination?
ESPN told Lebron he will get the award if he shows up. Instead of saying I don't need the award I'll show up anyway, he accepted the award and called it his 2nd place award.

 
Seemed like half the men in the audience had looks like "Is this for real?" Wonder what the conversations were after when the cocktails were flowing.

The opening joke that Bruce made about his dress was awkward..people did not know if they should laugh or what.

 
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Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
While we're on the subject: How does the woman who scored the hat trick in the first sixteen minutes of the World Cup Final not even get a nomination?
ESPN told Lebron he will get the award if he shows up. Instead of saying I don't need the award I'll show up anyway, he accepted the award and called it his 2nd place award.
And you know this how exactly? He looked genuinely surprised to me.

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.
A lot of things are beyond you. And Spieth's Masters and US Open wins did not occur in the time frame the award covers.

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.
White guys aren't allowed to win anything anymore. Even Jenner had to chop his crank off to get on the podium. :shrug:

:popcorn:

 
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Worst thing of the show was Lebron actually accepting that award for "Best Championship Performance." His narcissism knows no bounds. For God's sake give someone else a moment especially when you have no business winning it.
While we're on the subject: How does the woman who scored the hat trick in the first sixteen minutes of the World Cup Final not even get a nomination?
ESPN told Lebron he will get the award if he shows up. Instead of saying I don't need the award I'll show up anyway, he accepted the award and called it his 2nd place award.
And you know this how exactly? He looked genuinely surprised to me.
He's an actor

HTH

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.
A lot of things are beyond you. And Spieth's Masters and US Open wins did not occur in the time frame the award covers.
Ooooh.... Good one. Got me.

I guess that explains why US Women's Soccer won. That whole time-frame thing. Gotcha. C'mon man - gather yourself and try to keep up.

 
1993 Jim Valvano

1994 Steve Palermo

1995 Howard Cosell

1996 Loretta Claiborne

1997 Muhammad Ali

1998 Dean Smith

1999 Billie Jean King

2000 William David Sanders (posthumously)

2001 Cathy Freeman

2002 Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett, and Jeremy Glick (posthumously)[1]

2003 Pat Tillman and Kevin Tillman[2]

2004 George Weah[3][4]

2005 Emmanuel Ofosu Yeboah and Jim MacLaren

2006 Roia Ahmad and Shamila Kohestani

2007 Trevor Ringland and David Cullen from Peace Players International

2008 Tommie Smith and John Carlos

2009 Nelson Mandela

2010 Family of Ed Thomas

2011 Dewey Bozella

2012 Pat Summitt (Award Video and Speech)

2013 Robin Roberts

2014 Michael Sam

2015 Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner
Two of these are not like the others.

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.

 
1993 Jim Valvano

1994 Steve Palermo

1995 Howard Cosell

1996 Loretta Claiborne

1997 Muhammad Ali

1998 Dean Smith

1999 Billie Jean King

2000 William David Sanders (posthumously)

2001 Cathy Freeman

2002 Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, Tom Burnett, and Jeremy Glick (posthumously)[1]

2003 Pat Tillman and Kevin Tillman[2]

2004 George Weah[3][4]

2005 Emmanuel Ofosu Yeboah and Jim MacLaren

2006 Roia Ahmad and Shamila Kohestani

2007 Trevor Ringland and David Cullen from Peace Players International

2008 Tommie Smith and John Carlos

2009 Nelson Mandela

2010 Family of Ed Thomas

2011 Dewey Bozella

2012 Pat Summitt (Award Video and Speech)

2013 Robin Roberts

2014 Michael Sam

2015 Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner
Two of these are not like the others.
I'll bite - which two?

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
If I saw Bruno Mars, I'd probably call him Peter and ask him if he had any cocaine.

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.
A lot of things are beyond you. And Spieth's Masters and US Open wins did not occur in the time frame the award covers.
Ooooh.... Good one. Got me.

I guess that explains why US Women's Soccer won. That whole time-frame thing. Gotcha. C'mon man - gather yourself and try to keep up.
Just went on what the wiki page said. Haven't watched the Espys in probably 20 years and couldn't possibly care less. Just reading this thread to see the gomers get hot and bothered.

 
T J said:
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
If you don't get the difference, you're an idiot. And I call him Bruce.

But you probably had that figured out.
I guess I'm an idiot. Can you explain the difference to me? I'd appreciate an education from someone brighter than me.

 
To me, the most BS thing of the show was MoNa' (sp?) Davis winning the Breakout award. That, to meet, was absurd. Absolutely absurd. How it could have been anyone but Jordan Spieth is beyond me.
A lot of things are beyond you. And Spieth's Masters and US Open wins did not occur in the time frame the award covers.
Ooooh.... Good one. Got me.

I guess that explains why US Women's Soccer won. That whole time-frame thing. Gotcha. C'mon man - gather yourself and try to keep up.
Just went on what the wiki page said. Haven't watched the Espys in probably 20 years and couldn't possibly care less. Just reading this thread to see the gomers get hot and bothered.
It's fun watching people like TJ get all hot and bothered by situations like Caitlyn Jenner. Reeks of the 'yell it from the mountain tops' gay hater types that gets exposed for who they really are in some boytoy / male prostitute sex scandal.

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
If I saw Bruno Mars, I'd probably call him Peter and ask him if he had any cocaine.
If I saw Jennifer Aniston, I'd call her "baby" or "honey".

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
Caitlyn is not a guy's name.

 
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Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
What? Even if he prefers Cait he has been Bruce for 65 years and 40 of them in the public eye...hell The Kardashians still call him Bruce.

 
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Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
Caitlyn is not a guy's name.
Setting aside the fact that "Jamie Foxx" sounds like a low rent female porn star name ...

Is the rule that you will respect a human being's right to choose/change their name only if its still a known/common name for people who share what you consider to be their gender?

Does that mean you call him Eldrick Woods because "Tiger" is a zoo animal's name?

 
It's ESPN's party, they can invite who they want and determine the theme for the evening. Those who don't like that kind of party can host their own.

Me, I was not invited, and I did not turn voyeur for the party to which I was not invited.

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
What? Even if he prefers Cait he has been Bruce for 65 years and 40 of them in the public eye...hell The Kardashians still call him Bruce.
The Kardashians are famous because one of them has a fat ###, what exactly do you expect from them?

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
What? Even if he prefers Cait he has been Bruce for 65 years and 40 of them in the public eye...hell The Kardashians still call him Bruce.
So age/time spent in the public eye is the key to whether a person is free to change their name? Is that the rule? If you're young and you're not famous or haven't been famous for very long you can change your name, but if you're older you can't? What's the cutoff? Kareem was 24 and had been famous for almost a decade when he changed his name. If he'd changed it when he was 29 instead would you still call him Lew? What if he changed it when he was 36? How about if he was 50?

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
What? Even if he prefers Cait he has been Bruce for 65 years and 40 of them in the public eye...hell The Kardashians still call him Bruce.
So age/time spent in the public eye is the key to whether a person is free to change their name? Is that the rule? If you're young and you're not famous or haven't been famous for very long you can change your name, but if you're older you can't? What's the cutoff? Kareem was 24 and had been famous for almost a decade when he changed his name. If he'd changed it when he was 29 instead would you still call him Lew? What if he changed it when he was 36? How about if he was 50?
Lewis Ferdinand Alcindor was one of the all time great names. I remember reading that Alcindor meant a rising from the flames and embers, as one might expect it would. Somewhere in my scraps from my childhood I still have his autograph under his birth name.

 
Question for the people who insist on calling her Bruce even though she prefers to be known as Caitlyn- do you do that with other famous people? Like do you call Jamie Foxx "Eric Bishop" and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar "Lew Alcindor"? If not, why not? If so, congratulations- you're the worst.
What? Even if he prefers Cait he has been Bruce for 65 years and 40 of them in the public eye...hell The Kardashians still call him Bruce.
So age/time spent in the public eye is the key to whether a person is free to change their name? Is that the rule? If you're young and you're not famous or haven't been famous for very long you can change your name, but if you're older you can't? What's the cutoff? Kareem was 24 and had been famous for almost a decade when he changed his name. If he'd changed it when he was 29 instead would you still call him Lew? What if he changed it when he was 36? How about if he was 50?
Lewis Ferdinand Alcindor was one of the all time great names. I remember reading that Alcindor meant a rising from the flames and embers, as one might expect it would. Somewhere in my scraps from my childhood I still have his autograph under his birth name.
Cassius Clay might have been an even better name. You've gotta be pretty firm in your religious convictions to give up a bad### name like that.

 

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