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Politician Spock

In all seriousness...do you believe white people who insist that they are black should be referred to as African-Americans, black Americans, or what? If they believe they are trans-racial do you just go along with it and honor their reality?
You keep conflating Rachel Dolezal with transgender people. That was discussed earlier in this thread and I don't feel like rehashing it, but here is a link to one article that explains it.:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/12/comparison-transgender-people-rachel-dolezal

There is no comparison between transgender people and Rachel Dolezal

Meredith Talusan

The Spokane NAACP president outed as white chose to pass as black. Transgender people are just being themselves when they transition
I am not conflating anything.

PS said:

"You can call Jenner a he for biological reasons. You can call Jenner a she for mental reasons. Neither is wrong."

Why do you get to pick or decide whether or not someone can identify as being trans-racial?
Yes you are conflating. You are combining what I said with another idea... race. That's the very definition of conflate.

 
http://www.eonline.com/news/677605/espn-s-first-transgender-employee-praises-caitlyn-jenner-s-espys-recognition-we-have-finally-arrived

News/ ESPN's First Transgender Employee Praises Caitlyn Jenner's ESPYs Recognition: We Have ''Finally Arrived''

Many were moved by Caitlyn Jenner's special recognition at the 2015 ESPYs on Wednesday night, but it proved to be an exceptionally memorable night for one ESPN employee.

Courtney Pollack joined ESPN in 2003, and in 2004, she became the first transgender employee at the network to transition on the job from male to female. She is the communication chair for ESPN EQUAL, ESPN's Employee Resource Group (ERG) for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender employees, and on Wednesday night, she experienced Caitlyn's monumental moment live.

"The most anticipated moment of the show began as soccer star Abby Wambach introduced Caitlyn Jenner as the 2015 recipient of the Arthur Ashe Courage Award," Pollack wrote in a piece for ESPN Front Row.

"A beautiful video package was played highlighting the life of Ms. Jenner's Olyimpic fame, and her struggles with gender identity. She graciously accepted the award which was followed by a very powerful and moving acceptance speech," she continued.
 
Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.

 
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Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?

This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.

 
Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?

This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.
I have no reason to believe that you are a sexual deviant.

 
Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?

This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.
I have no reason to believe that you are a sexual deviant.
He's a FBG

 
Politician Spock said:
SIDA! said:
squistion said:
SIDA! said:
Politician Spock

In all seriousness...do you believe white people who insist that they are black should be referred to as African-Americans, black Americans, or what? If they believe they are trans-racial do you just go along with it and honor their reality?
You keep conflating Rachel Dolezal with transgender people. That was discussed earlier in this thread and I don't feel like rehashing it, but here is a link to one article that explains it.:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/12/comparison-transgender-people-rachel-dolezal

There is no comparison between transgender people and Rachel Dolezal

Meredith Talusan

The Spokane NAACP president outed as white chose to pass as black. Transgender people are just being themselves when they transition
I am not conflating anything.

PS said:

"You can call Jenner a he for biological reasons. You can call Jenner a she for mental reasons. Neither is wrong."

Why do you get to pick or decide whether or not someone can identify as being trans-racial?
Yes you are conflating. You are combining what I said with another idea... race. That's the very definition of conflate.
No. You have made the argument that gender identity can be a mental construct and thus you can call Jenner a she for mental reasons.

Why is it that you do not believe race can be a mental construct?

And squistion, you still refused to respond to my earlier question. You basically affirmed the comments stating in a nutshell that a person should basically be able to create their own identity and that we as human beings should accept it. Why is it that you do not believe a person who is struggling with their racial identity should be afforded the same courtesy?

 
And squistion, you still refused to respond to my earlier question. You basically affirmed the comments stating in a nutshell that a person should basically be able to create their own identity and that we as human beings should accept it, Why is it that you do not believe a person who is struggling with their racial identity should be afforded the same courtesy?
No, I didn't - making a "like" on a four-to-five paragraph post that discussed multiple issues is not the same thing as affirming every single thought that might have been expressed there. Please.

You also asked "Why?" about racial identity - Well, um, how about it is an apples and oranges comparison? Talk about a Straw Man. Please see the link I posted, transracial is not the same as transgender, if you want to continue to keep trying to conflate these issues, we have nothing more to discuss.

 
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Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?

This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.
I have no reason to believe that you are a sexual deviant.
I don't really care what you think of me specifically, I'm really just asking what you meant with the comment I bolded.

 
Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte:

Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###.

I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character.

Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die.

Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?

This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.
I have no reason to believe that you are a sexual deviant.
I don't really care what you think of me specifically, I'm really just asking what you meant with the comment I bolded.
You bolded the wrong comment, imo.

 
Open communique to transgender people from a neo-trogdolyte: Y'all are good people in my book, unless you frequent the shark pool a little too much; in that case, #### ###. I'll break bread with you, slam a few beers, address you as you wish, and hug you too. All I ask is, grant me that it's okay to believe Caitlyn is a doosh who lacks redeeming character. Alas it sucks for you that a bunch of over-emotional, self-righteous dudes (who probably watch a lot of strange porn, but I digress) want to muddy the discourse and stroke their egos at the your expense while seeming to defend you. They too will eventually die. Someday we will all get along.
Serious question: is your assertion (or bad joke) here that those who sympathize with the transgender struggle (and maybe went a little overboard in this thread--including myself here) must be sexual deviants?This is the kind of stuff that "muddies the discourse", as you said. It's like a backhanded comment where you say one thing but can't seem to resist meaning something else underneath.
I have no reason to believe that you are a sexual deviant.
I don't really care what you think of me specifically, I'm really just asking what you meant with the comment I bolded.
You bolded the wrong comment, imo.
So...your inability to respond leads me to believe you realize that was a dumb thing to post?

 
No. You have made the argument that gender identity can be a mental construct and thus you can call Jenner a she for mental reasons.

Why is it that you do not believe race can be a mental construct?
It can be.

I however have no reason to identify a person by their race.

 
And squistion, you still refused to respond to my earlier question. You basically affirmed the comments stating in a nutshell that a person should basically be able to create their own identity and that we as human beings should accept it, Why is it that you do not believe a person who is struggling with their racial identity should be afforded the same courtesy?
No, I didn't - making a "like" on a four-to-five paragraph post that discussed multiple issues is not the same thing as affirming every single thought that might have been expressed there. Please.

You also asked "Why?" about racial identity - Well, um, how about it is an apples and oranges comparison? Talk about a Straw Man. Please see the link I posted, transracial is not the same as transgender, if you want to continue to keep trying to conflate these issues, we have nothing more to discuss.
Which part were you liking then? Because it wasn't an essay covering various subject matter. It was pretty much one cohesive thought process about being nice to others and respecting their wishes.

Your posting a link to another person's OPINION about why it is an apples and oranges comparison adds nothing to the discussion. I mean, wow...this is some brilliant stuff by the author:

"Doctors don’t announce our race or color when we are born; they announce our gender."

The author, who was born a man and now is a "woman" goes on to say:

"Trans people transition in order to be the gender we feel inside and, while there may come a time when posers will appropriate trendy trans culture for profit, right now, there’s no advantage to transitioning when you’re not trans. Trans people don’t even have the legal protections – like laws that protect access to housing, public accommodation and employment opportunities – that black people and other racial minorities have fought so hard to win."

So, does that mean there is an advantage in living the life as a black woman instead of a white woman? What happened to all that white privilege and institutionalized racism blacks have to endure.

And why does it even matter if transitioning is advantageous or not. Many people voluntarily do a lot of things that offer no advantage and in fact might hinder them or further ostracize themselves from society. It is a fact that some people choose to become gay or lesbian. This has happened for many years and during times when being gay was definitely not an advantage.

It is comical to watch you deflect and accuse me of conflating a topic when you clearly want to pick and choose what you feel a person can or cannot claim with respect to their identity.

But this is your M.O. You will repeatedly refuse to answer a question, deflect from answering a question, etc.

Anyone with an IQ north of 2 sees the ridiculousness of your wanting to lecture those of us who maintain that Caitlyn is a man while at the same time being the arbiter of how someone identifies themselves racially.

A person with a #### and balls wants to start proclaiming that they are in fact a woman. That's great! Be tolerant and accept it.

A person who was born with one skin color wants to start proclaiming that they are a different color. Oh no. Pump the breaks.

Sort of like how those on the left want to advocate for gay marriage and then say polyamory couples cannot get married. But I am the intolerant bigot/neanderthal.

You are a farce.

 
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No. You have made the argument that gender identity can be a mental construct and thus you can call Jenner a she for mental reasons.

Why is it that you do not believe race can be a mental construct?
It can be.

I however have no reason to identify a person by their race.
Everyone is identified by their race. Let's not be silly.

You may not refer to that person directly by their race, but you identify that person by their race especially if you are discussing that person with another person.

For example, "I have an African-American friend..." or "An Hispanic colleague of mine..."

And let's not forget the classic, "Some of my best friends are black."

 
I found the perfect cook method too. Eggs in water and put it on the burner. Bring to boil. Once in a rolling boil turn it off and put the lid on the pot. 12-14 minutes of sitting and then hit them with the cold water. Shells usually come right off, eggs cooked perfect.

 
I found the perfect cook method too. Eggs in water and put it on the burner. Bring to boil. Once in a rolling boil turn it off and put the lid on the pot. 12-14 minutes of sitting and then hit them with the cold water. Shells usually come right off, eggs cooked perfect.
I like to put them in cold water. Keeps the yolk from turning greenish.

 
Hard Boiled Eggs

How to Make Perfect Hard Boiled Eggs

229 | Posted by Elise on July 29, 2014

I love hard boiled eggs. Theyre great for deviled eggs, egg salad, or just eating plain with a sprinkle of salt. For years I ate one every morning until my doctor told me that you shouldnt eat the same food every single day. So now I eat them only a couple of times a week.

Used to be that people were scared of eating eggs because of the cholesterol in the egg yolks. Not only has research found that eggs also raise the good cholesterol that bodies need, but the latest Federal dietary guidelines no longer warn against dietary cholesterol which made people limit the eggs in their diet in the first place.

Hard Boiled Eggs

When it comes to boiling eggs, the biggest problem is that people can easily over-cook them, leading to a dark green color around the yolk, and a somewhat sulphuric taste. Heres my method for how to cook hard boiled eggs so that they dont get over-cooked.

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How to Make Perfect Hard Boiled Eggs

Cook time: 12 minutes

Did you know? Older eggs are easier to peel than fresh eggs. If you are planning to make hard boiled eggs for Easter and want to make sure that the eggs are easy to peel, buy your eggs at least a week ahead of time (two weeks even better, they'll keep).

If you need easy-to-peel eggs and you have fresh eggs, you might want to try steaming the eggs for 15 minutes. Pour an inch of water into a pot and insert a steamer basket.Bring to a boil. Place the eggs in the steamer basket, cover and steam for 15 minutes (more or less, check!). (Or if you don't have a steamer basket, steam the eggs in a half inch of water.) The steam penetrates the shell a bit making the eggs easier to peel.

If you've boiled a batch of eggs that you are now finding difficult to peel, try cracking the shells all around without peeling them and soaking the eggs in water for a while. The water often seems to seep in enough under the shell to make the egg easier to peel.

If you live at high altitude, let the eggs sit in the hot water longer or lower the heat and maintain a low simmer for 10 to 12 minutes.

METHOD

1. Place the eggs in a single layer at the bottom of a saucepan. Cover with at least an inch or two of cold water. The more eggs that are crowding the pan the more water you should have over the eggs. Heat the pot on high heat and bring the water to a full rolling boil.

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Adding a teaspoon of vinegar to the water may help keep egg whites from running out if an egg does crack while cooking. Also some people find adding 1/2 teaspoon of salt to the water helps prevent cracking as well as making the eggs easier to peel.

2. Turn off the heat, keep the pan on the hot burner, cover, and let sit for 10-12 minutes.

If you have the type of stove burner that doesn't retain any heat when turned off, you might want to lower the temp to low, simmer for a minute, and then turn it off.

Depending on how cooked you like your hard boiled eggs, the eggs should be done perfectly in 10-12 minutes. That said, depending on your altitude, the shape of the pan, the size of the eggs, the ratio of water to eggs, it can take a few minutes more. Or if you like your eggs not fully hard cooked, it can take a few minutes less. When you find a time that works for you, given your preferences, the types of eggs you buy, your pots, stove, and cooking environment, stick with it.

If I'm cooking a large batch of eggs, after 10 minutes I'll sacrifice one to check for doneness, by removing it with a spoon, running it under cold water, and cutting it open. If it's not done enough for my taste, I'll cook the other eggs a minute or two longer.

I also find that it is very hard to overcook eggs using this method. I can let the eggs sit, covered, for up to 15-18 minutes without the eggs getting overcooked.

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3. Strain out the water from the pan and run cold water over the eggs to cool them quickly and stop them from cooking further. Or, if you are cooking a large batch of eggs, remove them with a slotted spoon to a large bowl of ice water.

I find it easiest to peel the eggs under a bit of running water.

The best way to store hard boiled eggs is in a covered container in the refrigerator. Eggs can release odors in the fridge which is why it helps to keep them covered.

They should be eaten within 5 days.

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The good thing about this method is that even if you forget and the eggs sit in the water a few minutes longer than you had planned, they'll still be fine.

Some people like their eggs less or more hard cooked than others. If you want your eggs still a little translucent in the center, let them seep in the hot water for only 6 minutes or so.

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I prefer my boiled eggs to have a custard-like yolk.

Here's how I do it:

Boil water.

Place eggs in pan.

Boil on high for one minute.

Turn heat down to medium.

Simmer for another six minutes.

Immediately run cold water into pan for at least one minute.

Peel. Sprinkle salt, pepper and cayenne pepper (or other herbs and spices to taste).

Eat 'em while they're still warm.

 
No. You have made the argument that gender identity can be a mental construct and thus you can call Jenner a she for mental reasons.

Why is it that you do not believe race can be a mental construct?
It can be.

I however have no reason to identify a person by their race.
Everyone is identified by their race. Let's not be silly.You may not refer to that person directly by their race, but you identify that person by their race especially if you are discussing that person with another person.

For example, "I have an African-American friend..." or "An Hispanic colleague of mine..."

And let's not forget the classic, "Some of my best friends are black."
I don't do that. WTF would anyone do that? It's just begging for trouble!

 

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