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Evans suspended, Green not. (1 Viewer)

packer_junkie said:
I really think he was trying to stay in the game. Kid is a #####. SO WHAT-- HE PLAYS HIS ### OFF. hits, covers, plays the game really damn hard. Im sure every Gm would take him in a heart beat!

No way did he deserve to get kicked out of that game. Yea he popped green-- so what. Should have been 15 like it is for everyone else in football. Green jumped him from behind and threw multiple punches and he just took it. I really don't think he got his ### kicked by any means 
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He didn't 'take it". He was getting his ### whooped and he was covering up.  That's like saying Marvis Frazier and Michael Spinks 'just took it'

 
JaxBill said:
Maybe he has reached the breaking point with Marvin Lewis and Dalton.

Maybe it was the fact that they were running up the middle trailing right before half.

Maybe he sees his chances of playoffs evaporating.

Look at his stats this year.  He was thrown out right before halftime. 1 catch for 6 yards on 2 targets.

His targets this year (chronological order) 10,8,13,7,13,6,8 and then the 2 on Sunday.

Maybe there is more to it. Maybe Ramsey said some low-life trash things to him.

But if that's why he went off, then really needed to be suspended because that's inexcusable.

Oh and BTW, AJ Green is not the first WR that Jalen Ramsey has put on lockdown but he's the first one to put him in a chokehold and throw punches.
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I tend to judge by information that the referees forwarded to the commissioner. Not a guy named Jacksonville Bill who obviously has a bias. 

 
JuniorNB said:
I tend to judge by information that the referees forwarded to the commissioner. Not a guy named Jacksonville Bill who obviously has a bias. 
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You mean the same referees that were originally quoted as saying they thought that Ramsey had thrown a punch then changed their tune.

Look at the numbers above. There's no bias there.

 
JaxBill said:
You mean the same referees that were originally quoted as saying they thought that Ramsey had thrown a punch then changed their tune.

Look at the numbers above. There's no bias there.
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:lmao:   Yeah, ok.   I'm not decided till I talk to Cincinnati Pete

 
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I’m going to need a chart and some graphs of when it’s classy to attack a guy and when you are a good guy and a bad guy. 

 
JuniorNB said:
I tend to judge by information that the referees forwarded to the commissioner. Not a guy named Jacksonville Bill who obviously has a bias. 
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Actually the referees said that the shove caused the fight not the trash talking. But YOU have decided that it was the trash talking.

Question: Why was Jalen Ramsey ejected from the game as a result of the altercation with A.J. Green?

Allen: “No. 20 of Jacksonville [Ramsey] was ejected for a flagrant personal foul, which started the altercation which resulted in a punch from No. 18 of Cincinnati [Green]. They were both disqualified.”

Question: Was Ramsey shoving Green to the ground result in an automatic ejection for Ramsey?

Allen: “I don’t want to use the term ‘automatic’ because it would have been a [penalty] on its own but we also had a fight. We ended up with a fight by Cincinnati but we had the instigator in Jacksonville. Therefore, they were both disqualified.”

Question: Ramsey and Green were seen yapping throughout the first half. Did any members of your crew warn them?

Allen: “Yes, absolutely.”

Question: At what point did a member of your crew say something to Green and Ramsey in the first half?

Allen: “Well, first of all, I can’t tell you what we have on our game cards because they’re back in the [officials’ locker] room. But throughout the game, we had warnings to both sidelines and to individual players, at which time we recorded. I can’t tell you the specifics of what time.”

Question: The fact they had been warned, did that make the decision to eject them easier?

Allen: “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Question: During the Green-Ramsey fight, a lot of other players from both teams were involved … [why weren’t they penalized or ejected]?

Allen (started answering before question was completed): “We try to get the instigators of a situation like that. That’s who we believe we got.”

Question: To recap, 18 threw a punch, which was the reason for his ejection?

Allen: “That was No. 18 of Cincinnati. He was fighting.”

Question: And Ramsey didn’t need to throw a punch to get ejected?

Allen: “That’s correct. You don’t have to throw a punch in order to be disqualified.”
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So NOT ONLY does AJ take a defender with him in his ejection (utter bull#### that Jalen Ramsey was also ejected for, what, being punched?) but he also doesn't get suspended a full-game?

NFL, you are a ####### joke and deserve the trainwreck of a season you're having. 

 
ATB said:
So NOT ONLY does AJ take a defender with him in his ejection (utter bull#### that Jalen Ramsey was also ejected for, what, being punched?) but he also doesn't get suspended a full-game?

NFL, you are a ####### joke and deserve the trainwreck of a season you're having. 
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Did you not read about the part where he was saying mean things?

 
JaxBill said:
Actually the referees said that the shove caused the fight not the trash talking. But YOU have decided that it was the trash talking.
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Thank you.  The part that you bolded just backs my point. Ramsey was the instigator, Green retaliated, and a fight pursued. Both were ejected. Neither was suspended further. I'm satisfied. Hopefully, both learned something. 

 
shadyridr said:
Wtf?
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As many have pointed out Green was ejected.  The morons working the Bucs game were negligent to not eject Evans.  Glad the league stepped up here...

Now, to compare the incidents, Green reacted to getting a cheap shot.  Evans hit a guy in the back.  I would have suspended Evans two games for being such a maggot.

 
pinequick said:
So JuniorNB is AJ Green's uncle (or aunt, I suppose), right?  Is this just common knowledge around here?  Or is he AJ himself?

Alias check in Aisle 3, please.
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Nope. Just a guy who recognizes a well deserved was whooping. His penalty was ejection. And that was plenty

 
JaxBill said:
 @JohnReid64: Jalen Ramsey gives his side on what led to fight with A.J. Green https://twitter.com/JohnReid64/status/928342357187137536/video/1

Denies saying anything personal about Greens wife or family. Repeatedly told Green he was "soft ...weak...his time was almost up."
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Questioned his manhood then proceeded to get thrown around like a rag doll by him. I bet AJ had no problem with the double ejection in order to show the punk just how 'soft' he was. 

 
JuniorNB said:
Questioned his manhood then proceeded to get thrown around like a rag doll by him. I bet AJ had no problem with the double ejection in order to show the punk just how 'soft' he was. 
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He sure showed something but not what you're thinking

 
JaxBill said:
He sure showed something but not what you're thinking
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lol   Ok, Jacksonville Bill  Whatever you say. Bottom line is, Green is going to be playing on Sunday. Not sure that Mr Ramsey showed anything either. Other than the fact that he should stick to football and not MMA.  

 
JuniorNB said:
lol   Ok, Jacksonville Bill  Whatever you say. Bottom line is, Green is going to be playing on Sunday. Not sure that Mr Ramsey showed anything either. Other than the fact that he should stick to football and not MMA.  
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Good. The Jaguars can use a highly motivated Mr. Green against the Titans. Hopefully their CBs aren't a bunch of foul-mouthed meanies.

 
JaxBill said:
Good. The Jaguars can use a highly motivated Mr. Green against the Titans. Hopefully their CBs aren't a bunch of foul-mouthed meanies.
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LOl  Hope your young corner gets a little tougher as he ages. Kind of embarrassing to call someone soft all game and then let him throw you around like a rag doll.  

 
Don't Noonan said:
It seems like they are really good at teaching the stupid at Florida State.  Both Winston and Ramsey.
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Some people are born cocky. That's why it was so fun to watch the level-headed Green reach his limit and throw the tool around. It's a shame that Ramsey can't just play the game with some class. Maybe someone like Patrick Peterson or Joe Hayden can teach him to talk with his actions. You can be a shutdown corner without being an ### hole. I think I'm going to go watch the replay of Green's beat down again. 

 
JuniorNB said:
LOl  Hope your young corner gets a little tougher as he ages. Kind of embarrassing to call someone soft all game and then let him throw you around like a rag doll.  
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I especially like the part about Ramsey "trying to get" to Green after the game.  Either he wanted another ### whooping or was very secure that he wouldn't be allowed even close to Green.  My guess is the 2nd.

Sad state of the NFL.  A great young player who has zero respect for his fellow players.

 
efactor said:
I especially like the part about Ramsey "trying to get" to Green after the game.  Either he wanted another ### whooping or was very secure that he wouldn't be allowed even close to Green.  My guess is the 2nd.

Sad state of the NFL.  A great young player who has zero respect for his fellow players.
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Sometimes things happen and catch you off-guard. And then you look back at them moments later and realise how soft and weak it made you look. And you wish you'd have done things differently. He definitely crawled into a fetal position and started to scream. And probably realizes that it made him look like a little girl. So that whole trying to get at him routine was a effort to save face. But like you said, he knew he would never get that far. It was one of those Hold Me Back moments. LOL

 
JuniorNB said:
LOl  Hope your young corner gets a little tougher as he ages. Kind of embarrassing to call someone soft all game and then let him throw you around like a rag doll.  
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You seem overly concerned with toughness.  Are you aware of the responsibilities of a CB? 

 
JuniorNB said:
Sometimes things happen and catch you off-guard. And then you look back at them moments later and realise how soft and weak it made you look. And you wish you'd have done things differently. He definitely crawled into a fetal position and started to scream. And probably realizes that it made him look like a little girl. So that whole trying to get at him routine was a effort to save face. But like you said, he knew he would never get that far. It was one of those Hold Me Back moments. LOL
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Yep..............

His coach even tried to come to his rescue by saying that they are coached to not retaliate and draw a penalty (paraphrase).  I thought that was kind of funny.  Don't retaliate when you are getting choke slammed twice and thrown around like a rag doll?  I'm 100 percent positive that was what went through Ramsey's head as that was happening, "I better LET AJ humiliate me so that I don't get a penalty called on me".   What a disciplined fellow................

 
Zigg said:
You seem overly concerned with toughness.  Are you aware of the responsibilities of a CB? 
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That seems to have been Ramsey's big attack on Green. That he was soft. Seems like he was the one bringing toughness into question. Turned out to be a big mistake on his part, but none the less.

 
JuniorNB said:
Some people are born cocky. That's why it was so fun to watch the level-headed Green reach his limit and throw the tool around. It's a shame that Ramsey can't just play the game with some class. Maybe someone like Patrick Peterson or Joe Hayden can teach him to talk with his actions. You can be a shutdown corner without being an ### hole. I think I'm going to go watch the replay of Green's beat down again. 
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I'm in the camp that thinks Green is a class act.

Evans?  Dog crap.

 
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