Expert Mock Completed Tonight (5/3) (1 Viewer)

[David Dodds]

I represented Footballguys and drafted from the #1 hole. FFToday, Fantasy Alarm, KFFL, RotoExperts, All Purpose Roto, Fantasy Sharks, Fantasy Guru, Fantasy Pros 911, Rotowire, FFToolbox, and Stats Inc were all there.

Somewhat weird rules in that it would be played out as a best ball league (no transactions), yet we only drafted 20 rounds. You need to start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB, WR, TE), 1 Def and 1 PK. Because it's best ball, that scoring will be optimized each week based on max points.

Here is the team I drafted (was pretty tough this early with so many unknowns right now):

6.12 - Roethlisberger, Ben PIT

9.01 - Stafford, Matthew DET

1.01 - Foster, Arian HOU

2.12 - Forte, Matt CHI

7.01 - Torain, Ryan WAS

16.12 - Barber, Marion DAL

20.12 - Redman, Isaac PIT

3.01 - Jackson, DeSean PHI

4.12 - Welker, Wes NEP

5.01 - Maclin, Jeremy PHI

10.12 - Ochocinco, Chad CIN

12.12 - Meachem, Robert NOS

13.01 - Jones, James GBP

17.01 - Tate, Golden SEA

8.12 - Lewis, Marcedes JAC

11.01 - Celek, Brent PHI

14.12 - Bears, Chicago CHI

15.01 - Patriots, New England NEP

18.12 - Akers, David PHI

19.01 - Bryant, Matt ATL

Here is the link to the league: http://www33.myfanta...11/home/70117#0

Full Draft here: http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=70117&O=17

 

[Wadsworth]

Both Maclin and D. Jackson because it's best ball?

 

[David Dodds]

Both Maclin and D. Jackson because it's best ball?

I like that offense a lot (I have Celek too). Best ball definitely makes it easier to field this kind of team where you would be guessing at who to start each week.

 

[rzrback77]

ppr or not?

intersting to me to load up on Eagle receivers

 

[David Dodds]

ppr or not?intersting to me to load up on Eagle receivers

not PPR. It's just how the players fell. It wasn't a plan going in. I just looked through the other teams and many took just 1 Def and 1 PK. That's a huge mistake in Best Ball with optimized scoring (in my opinion).

 

[cvnpoka]

what does "no transactions" mean? you can still pick up players off waivers right?

 

[David Dodds]

what does "no transactions" mean? you can still pick up players off waivers right?

nope. The highest 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 flex, 1 Def and 1 kicker count each week. No transactions (waivers, trades, etc). The team you draft is used for the whole year.

 

[cvnpoka]

so those guys take 0s during bye weeks. what a joke. nice table selection tho.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Hi David,

Good group at QB, and like the WRs a good amount. Also agree with the double-ups at PK and on defense.

A couple of questions:

1. Do you not believe that a rookie will have more influence at tailback in Washington?

2. How did the TEs fall? Was Lewis a target for you?

3. No concern of Akers likely being out of Philadelphia with Henery drafted in the 4th?

4. Instead of a WR7, did you consider a handcuff of Ben Tate to lock up the Houston run game?

I think I'd have liked the team a little more with a 6th RB vs. a 7th WR (esp. without PPR and potential for 3 RBs to start with the flex). That'd be my biggest concern. The QB, RB1/RB2 and WRs should keep you doing well. Good job overall.

 

[r0llin_game]

I think having a 3rd QB would be way more important in this format and with the injury prone (thus far) Matt Stafford. Any reasoning on why you took Foster over the likes of CJ3 and ADP?

 

[cvnpoka]

ya, i immediately thought 3 QBs would be beneficial.

 

[Getinthemix]

With only 20 roster spots adding a 3rd QB would be tough

 

[No Way Jose]

Would be nice to see you all do this in a dynasty format.

Maclin in the 5th was a nice grab.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Your links are useless at work.

Interested in seeing where Detroit DST was drafted.

 

[Tony Soprano]

David --

At your 7.01, you went with Torain over RBs like Ryan Grant, Joseph Addai, and Fred Jackson. Is this due to the format of the league (i.e. no transactions) or based on your projections?

 

[footballsavvy]

I too didn't like the Torain pick so much. I do love the two QBs though. I also felt like 3.01 is pretty early for DeSean - but in non-ppr he makes a little more sense than ppr I guess.

 

[mrip541]

Wow. Julio already killing Roddy. If I can get him at 2.11 I'll be a happy man.

 

[Tau837]

David -- At your 7.01, you went with Torain over RBs like Ryan Grant, Joseph Addai, and Fred Jackson. Is this due to the format of the league (i.e. no transactions) or based on your projections?

Didn't follow the links, but very surprised to see Torain over Grant. Grant continues to be severely underrated IMO.

 

[Jason Wood]

I represented Footballguys and drafted from the #1 hole. FFToday, Fantasy Alarm, KFFL, RotoExperts, All Purpose Roto, Fantasy Sharks, Fantasy Guru, Fantasy Pros 911, Rotowire, FFToolbox, and Stats Inc were all there.

Somewhat weird rules in that it would be played out as a best ball league (no transactions), yet we only drafted 20 rounds. You need to start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB, WR, TE), 1 Def and 1 PK. Because it's best ball, that scoring will be optimized each week based on max points.

Here is the team I drafted (was pretty tough this early with so many unknowns right now):

6.12 - Roethlisberger, Ben PIT

9.01 - Stafford, Matthew DET

1.01 - Foster, Arian HOU

2.12 - Forte, Matt CHI

7.01 - Torain, Ryan WAS

16.12 - Barber, Marion DAL

20.12 - Redman, Isaac PIT

3.01 - Jackson, DeSean PHI

4.12 - Welker, Wes NEP

5.01 - Maclin, Jeremy PHI

10.12 - Ochocinco, Chad CIN

12.12 - Meachem, Robert NOS

13.01 - Jones, James GBP

17.01 - Tate, Golden SEA

8.12 - Lewis, Marcedes JAC

11.01 - Celek, Brent PHI

14.12 - Bears, Chicago CHI

15.01 - Patriots, New England NEP

18.12 - Akers, David PHI

19.01 - Bryant, Matt ATL

Here is the link to the league: http://www33.myfanta...11/home/70117#0

Full Draft here: http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2011/options?L=70117&O=17

You generally do great at these expert drafts so obviously you don't need affirmation from us, but this particular draft seems unusually difficult to handicap because of the complete lack of free agency yet. A few thoughts though:QB -- I'm not sold on Stafford in this format because of his injury concerns. The lack of transactions means you could be down to Big Ben pretty quickly. But in a vacuum, Stafford has as much chance as any to break into the Top 10 for the first time.

RB -- In a non PPR I think this kind of went awry for you. Forte had a much nicer year last year than we all expected, so he's a decent RB2 even in non-PPR. But your backups concern me. Torain will probably make or break your team believe it or not. On the surface, he's set up to follow on a terrific second half as the new guy, with Portis cut. On the flip side, Shanny is gushing about Roy Helu and lots of people seem convinced he'll get every chance to be the lead back. If Helu earns a time share, or worse the starting gig, that's rough. The Barber pick is one you'll likely regret. Stephen Jones was on the NFL Network after the draft and made it quite clear that 2011 is about Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray, with Jones saying that the three backs on the roster gave them "a lot of mileage" but they felt it was time to "shake things up." Jones also said that Jones is the guy, but that no back will get 20+ carries a game. I expect Barber will be cut unless he takes a big pay cut. And Redman was obviously an end game pick that you're just hoping for TD vulturing from.

WR -- I like your WR corps, particularly the top 4, quite a bit.

TE -- No complaints there. Those two should combine in a BB format for excellent production.

DEF -- Who knows, it's best ball defense and I haven't bothered looking at SOS or comparing those two on a week to week basis to see if they're complementary yet.

PK -- As Jeff P notes, Akers time with Philly is at its end. That said, he's so good I fully expect another team will sign him to be their starter. The risk though, of course, is that he's no longer the kicker on a team with a prolific offense. Bryant, IIRC, is also an UFA and could be without a job.

 

[David Dodds]

David -- At your 7.01, you went with Torain over RBs like Ryan Grant, Joseph Addai, and Fred Jackson. Is this due to the format of the league (i.e. no transactions) or based on your projections?

To me it looks like Torrain will start there. The team did not take a back until Helu late. I think Starks is likely the starter over Ryan Grant. And I think Indy is a mess (with the rookie Delone Carter likely cutting deep into Addai/Brown's roles).

 

[Tau837]

I think Starks is likely the starter over Ryan Grant.

Why? Is this based on something you have read (and can link)? Do you believe Starks is better than Grant? Do you believe Grant will not be healthy this year?This is a pretty bold statement IMO. Personally, I think it is way off, but I'm interested in hearing your rationale.

 

[David Dodds]

I represented Footballguys and drafted from the #1 hole. FFToday, Fantasy Alarm, KFFL, RotoExperts, All Purpose Roto, Fantasy Sharks, Fantasy Guru, Fantasy Pros 911, Rotowire, FFToolbox, and Stats Inc were all there.

Somewhat weird rules in that it would be played out as a best ball league (no transactions), yet we only drafted 20 rounds. You need to start 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 flex (RB, WR, TE), 1 Def and 1 PK. Because it's best ball, that scoring will be optimized each week based on max points.

Here is the team I drafted (was pretty tough this early with so many unknowns right now):

6.12 - Roethlisberger, Ben PIT

9.01 - Stafford, Matthew DET

1.01 - Foster, Arian HOU

2.12 - Forte, Matt CHI

7.01 - Torain, Ryan WAS

16.12 - Barber, Marion DAL

20.12 - Redman, Isaac PIT

3.01 - Jackson, DeSean PHI

4.12 - Welker, Wes NEP

5.01 - Maclin, Jeremy PHI

10.12 - Ochocinco, Chad CIN

12.12 - Meachem, Robert NOS

13.01 - Jones, James GBP

17.01 - Tate, Golden SEA

8.12 - Lewis, Marcedes JAC

11.01 - Celek, Brent PHI

14.12 - Bears, Chicago CHI

15.01 - Patriots, New England NEP

18.12 - Akers, David PHI

19.01 - Bryant, Matt ATL

Here is the link to the league: http://www33.myfanta...11/home/70117#0

Full Draft here: http://football33.my...ns?L=70117&O=17

You generally do great at these expert drafts so obviously you don't need affirmation from us, but this particular draft seems unusually difficult to handicap because of the complete lack of free agency yet. A few thoughts though:QB -- I'm not sold on Stafford in this format because of his injury concerns. The lack of transactions means you could be down to Big Ben pretty quickly. But in a vacuum, Stafford has as much chance as any to break into the Top 10 for the first time.

RB -- In a non PPR I think this kind of went awry for you. Forte had a much nicer year last year than we all expected, so he's a decent RB2 even in non-PPR. But your backups concern me. Torain will probably make or break your team believe it or not. On the surface, he's set up to follow on a terrific second half as the new guy, with Portis cut. On the flip side, Shanny is gushing about Roy Helu and lots of people seem convinced he'll get every chance to be the lead back. If Helu earns a time share, or worse the starting gig, that's rough. The Barber pick is one you'll likely regret. Stephen Jones was on the NFL Network after the draft and made it quite clear that 2011 is about Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray, with Jones saying that the three backs on the roster gave them "a lot of mileage" but they felt it was time to "shake things up." Jones also said that Jones is the guy, but that no back will get 20+ carries a game. I expect Barber will be cut unless he takes a big pay cut. And Redman was obviously an end game pick that you're just hoping for TD vulturing from.

WR -- I like your WR corps, particularly the top 4, quite a bit.

TE -- No complaints there. Those two should combine in a BB format for excellent production.

DEF -- Who knows, it's best ball defense and I haven't bothered looking at SOS or comparing those two on a week to week basis to see if they're complementary yet.

PK -- As Jeff P notes, Akers time with Philly is at its end. That said, he's so good I fully expect another team will sign him to be their starter. The risk though, of course, is that he's no longer the kicker on a team with a prolific offense. Bryant, IIRC, is also an UFA and could be without a job.

I agree that if Stafford goes down I am hurting. QBs went pretty fast (Ben was like the 11th or 12th selected). I like Stafford a lot more than the scrubs others have as other teams took near/after him. I went in also trying to get Tebow (but was beaten to the punch on him).At RB, the main criticism seems to be Torrain. This is why these drafts are so hard to do now before some things settle. But with just 20 roster spots, I opted to avoid most rookies because if they are scoring zeros through 8 weeks, they will kill you in this format. I think Torrain holds off Helu. Others disagree. As for saying Marion Barber will be cut...Yes I am counting on that at 16.12. I think he finds a role on some other team for sure. Akers could be a mistake. I actually had not been paying that much attention to kickers yet. But he was stellar last year so I say he will land somewhere.

 

[David Dodds]

I think Starks is likely the starter over Ryan Grant.

Why? Is this based on something you have read (and can link)? Do you believe Starks is better than Grant? Do you believe Grant will not be healthy this year?This is a pretty bold statement IMO. Personally, I think it is way off, but I'm interested in hearing your rationale.

Grant was mostly a plodder even when he played. Starks had decent production through the playoffs when the team won the Super Bowl. Typically teams that win play the guys that got them there the next year unless they lost a world-beater due to injury. I don't think Grant is a world-beater at all. If anything I think the Packers use both of these backs in a significant time-share.and last night John Hansen (an opinion I respect a lot) took Starks in this draft with both Starks and Grant on the board. I am not saying it's a done deal. These guys are going to compete for the job. I actually think neither of them are going to get enough touches to be very relevant in 2011 (unless the other gets hurt)

 

[Tau837]

I think Starks is likely the starter over Ryan Grant.

Why? Is this based on something you have read (and can link)? Do you believe Starks is better than Grant? Do you believe Grant will not be healthy this year?This is a pretty bold statement IMO. Personally, I think it is way off, but I'm interested in hearing your rationale.

Grant was mostly a plodder even when he played. Starks had decent production through the playoffs when the team won the Super Bowl. Typically teams that win play the guys that got them there the next year unless they lost a world-beater due to injury. I don't think Grant is a world-beater at all. If anything I think the Packers use both of these backs in a significant time-share.and last night John Hansen (an opinion I respect a lot) took Starks in this draft with both Starks and Grant on the board. I am not saying it's a done deal. These guys are going to compete for the job. I actually think neither of them are going to get enough touches to be very relevant in 2011 (unless the other gets hurt)

Interesting. I'm not sure what relevant means to you in this context, but I would be surprised if Grant is not a top 20 RB this year, assuming he stays healthy. He was RB8 in 2009, and I see little reason to think he cannot be similarly effective, or that Starks is good enough to take away a significant number of his touches.

 

[Kleck]

Really like Golden Tate in the 17th. He'll be a guy I take in a lot of leagues if his ADP going to be that late.

 

[johnadams]

You lost me at Foster at 1.01.

 

[David Dodds]

You lost me at Foster at 1.01.

I didn't think he would make it back to me at 2.12.

 

[Tony Soprano]

David -- At your 7.01, you went with Torain over RBs like Ryan Grant, Joseph Addai, and Fred Jackson. Is this due to the format of the league (i.e. no transactions) or based on your projections?

To me it looks like Torrain will start there. The team did not take a back until Helu late. I think Starks is likely the starter over Ryan Grant. And I think Indy is a mess (with the rookie Delone Carter likely cutting deep into Addai/Brown's roles).

Thank you for the reply. I actually own both Torain and Grant in a keeper league; I am likely to have to keep one, and I thought Grant was the easy choice if I do indeed have to keep one of them. Maybe not...

 

[gebz306]

Only guy I like here is Maclin... Guess I need to get back on the horse to understand the logic behind these picks

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

looks like hillis almost dropped to you instead of forte. suprised he lasted to 2.08.

 

[Tick]

ya, i immediately thought 3 QBs would be beneficial.

Please capitalize letters.I like the positional breakdown - I think you got that perfect. I really like the WRs you have for best-ball. Meachem's such a headache in a starting league, but here he's great.

 

[sihaokills]

I think you did a good job... Love the Maclin and Jackson combo