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Explosions at Boston Marathon (1 Viewer)

Nipsey autocorrect on iPhone is biodegradable. I was going to say something else but that seemed like the bigger story.

 
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5 digit know nothing said:
5 digit know nothing said:
You would think someone would connect the dots with a front license plate that says "Terrorist #1" on it. Might not be his car, but if that's the case someone should be checking who his friend is.

full twitter link for pic
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

The two men arrested last night in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings drive a car with the licence plate that reads: ‘Terrorista #1’

The students, named be neighbours by their first names Azmat and Diaz, drive a black BMW 330XI with the personalised plate and a sticker on the back which reads: ‘F*** you, you f****** f****’.

They are thought to be from Kazakhstan and had not been seen since the bombings until last night when their ground floor apartment in New Bedford, MA, was raided by a dozen FBI agents at gunpoint.

One of their girlfriends was also arrested. All three are in their late teens or early 20s.

Their apartment was raised because police say the younger Boston Marathon bombing suspect, 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, may have lived at their address.

MailOnline has discovered another link - Dzhokhar Tweeted pictures of the car on his Twitter account J_tsar.

In one picture the BMW is next to another dark coloured sports car with the caption: ‘Place your bets’ as if they are about to race.

In another a group of boys stand by both vehicles and a youth can be seen making a gesture that looks like a gun towards the camera.

The three arrests took place at the Hidden Brook housing complex in New Bedford.

A neighbour claimed that the men had said the BMW was stolen or that they claimed they had rented it and were not paying the rental fee.

Inside the car was a receipt from a Ralph Lauren store, a pair of Ray Ban sunglasses, a receipt from a shipping company, a prescription, lots of crushed water bottles and a number of parking tickets.

The neighbour told MailOnline that Azmat and Diaz were ‘nice boys’ who were light skinned, thin and short.

She said that they were students at the University of Massachusetts and had been living in the apartment for around a year.

She said: ‘They used to have parties until three or four in the morning. There would be drinking and dancing and the police would come. I didn’t mind but they stayed up til late every now and then’.

The neighbour said that when the the police raided the apartment there were armed officers on the tennis court out the back on a tennis court lying down with their guns pointed towards the apartment.

The FBI later brought a U-Haul truck to the rear of the apartment but did not take anything away.

The neighbour said that when the boys were led out she heard ‘scuffles’ and that they were led away with their hands in zip ties.

The neighbour said ‘I’ve not spoken to them since the bombings. They have thick accents so I find it hard to understand them anyway.

‘They went away for a couple of weeks a few months ago but they did not say where. I don’t know if they went back to Kazakhstan

Two Russian speaking men in their early 20s later arrived at the apartment and told reporters they were journalists from the Boston Globe.

They then entered the apartment through an unlocked patio door. When asked what they were doing they said: ‘We are friends of theirs. They are talking, they are talking’ and closed the door.

When MailOnline rang the City desk of the Boston Globe, a man said: ‘We’re very busy right now. Consider us informed’.

 
Guster said:
CurlyNight said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Boston police handled this so much better than the lapd's fiasco. No random people got shot up or anything.
This is true but now they are deciding if shutting down the whole city for the day for one dude was the best way to handle this. Seems Boston is out 300 mil for yesterday's shutdown. :dunno:
:eyeroll:Was wondering how long it would take for this angle to be trolled out there. Not the least bit surprised you're the one to bring it up.You're suggesting that the lives of the people in and around Boston are worth less than $300,000,000. To me they are worth much much much more than that. Who knows how many more he could have killed if they hadn't been sheltered in their homes. I'm fine with the financial cost of saving people's lives
I would hope that authorities would reevaluate any action that results in meeting few, if any actual objectives. Exactly how many lives were really protected by this action? How many were put in greater danger?

That being said the fact that it didn't work directly to corner the dangerous suspect doesn't mean that it wasn't actually worth the cost. Seems to me that the people of the area are pointing to lots of indirect benefits.

But whether or not it was the right decision and should be repeated or even become policy in the future should be an open question for a while.

 
Is it wrong to want the next major crime to happen, so I can listen to it on the scanner?
I bet several scriptwriters are adapting scanners and reddit feeds into their stories and we'll see it plenty on TV next fall and in movies next year. We'll be sick of it soon enough.

 
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Dang Papi. My jaw is still on the ground. Is it possible to find something repugnant and the most awesome thing you ever saw at the same time?
There was nothing repugnant about that, fit it perfectly and capped of a GREAT ceremony.
For you and me maybe. Stadium is a family venue and tons of people on TV. Not the most classy thing in the world. I think of what a guy like Carl Yastzremski would have done in a spot like that. But the stiffs down at the bar loved it.

 
Dang Papi. My jaw is still on the ground. Is it possible to find something repugnant and the most awesome thing you ever saw at the same time?
There was nothing repugnant about that, fit it perfectly and capped of a GREAT ceremony.
For you and me maybe. Stadium is a family venue and tons of people on TV. Not the most classy thing in the world. I think of what a guy like Carl Yastzremski would have done in a spot like that. But the stiffs down at the bar loved it.
Oh, I realize that. After all we've been through though, I think most give it a pass.

 
Wow, what a moving tribute by the sox. Complete with Ortiz getting the mic at the end and saying "this is our ***hin city!"
>Best F bomb ever by Ortiz.
That sox pregame ceremony was the best I've ever seen in any sport. Capped off perfectly by David Ortiz "This is our ***hing city" (no H). Crowd went nuts. Wow.
Yeah, but what's your opinion on David Ortiz saying "####"?
:lmao:

 
Dang Papi. My jaw is still on the ground. Is it possible to find something repugnant and the most awesome thing you ever saw at the same time?
There was nothing repugnant about that, fit it perfectly and capped of a GREAT ceremony.
For you and me maybe. Stadium is a family venue and tons of people on TV. Not the most classy thing in the world. I think of what a guy like Carl Yastzremski would have done in a spot like that. But the stiffs down at the bar loved it.
Oh, I realize that. After all we've been through though, I think most give it a pass.
I think he would've gotten the same response with out the f word.

 
If he had said "this is our damn city" or something like that it would have come off like Charlie Daniels saying "son of a gun". Everybody, everywhere wants Charlie to say the B.

 
Wow, what a moving tribute by the sox. Complete with Ortiz getting the mic at the end and saying "this is our ***hin city!"
>>Best F bomb ever by Ortiz.

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>That sox pregame ceremony was the best I've ever seen in any sport. Capped off perfectly by David Ortiz "This is our ***hing city" (no H). Crowd went nuts. Wow.
Yeah, but what's your opinion on David Ortiz saying "####"?
:lmao:
:goodposting: :lmao:
 
Chase Stuart said:
I know this is an extreme case, and tough cases can make the law challenging, but it's mind-boggling that anyone would want to declare this person an enemy combatant. Essentially, you're saying if a member of the FBI wants to, you can be held for an indefinite amount of time without a trial or due process or the opportunity to contact anyone. Period. It would literally allow any member of the FBI to legally kidnap any American citizen. A federal agent could detain his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend because he thinks he's a ####. You might think "well this case is different, this guy is a terrorist." Well, what makes him a terrorist? The FBI thinks he's a terrorist. Are they right? In this case, yes. But the FBI doesn't need anyone to rubber stamp the decision to label him a terrorist to label him an enemy combatant and ignore due process. Now if you have a ton of faith in the FBI's discretion, this isn't an issue. If you think the federal government needs to have its power checked -- which, I thought, was the core principle of every conservative movement -- then the idea that a US citizen could ever be labeled as an enemy combatant and held without any due process should be considered repugnant.
Just wondering here, what gives you the impression that any field agent can now designate anyone they want as an enemy combatant? I would think it came from someone higher up than even Meuller. In wars I thought it was only determined by the general or the president.
Field agent tells his superior that he believes XYZ is a terrorist and enemy combatant. Superior tells whomever he needs to tell, and that's it.

You're right in that there would be some check, but it's all within the federal government. The public would be in the dark and the "suspect" would be kept out of court. Again, if you trust the federal government to act appropriately with unchecked authority, it's not an issue.

In my view, it would be absurd to consider any American citizen arrested in America to be denied his constitutional due process rights. While Obama has had his shares of mistakes, his decision not to use the enemy combatant label like Bush is at least one positive, IMO.
Isn't the entire "enemy combatant" discussion misplaced at this point though? This case is simply a question of using the "public safety" exception to question him on certain urgent issues before giving him the Miranda, right? What is the downside in that? I think the worst case scenario is that some of the statements he makes pre-Miranda might be inadmissible in a criminal trial, but even that is not certain based on some recent caselaw. I expect they've already got more than enough evidence for a conviction even if he doesn't confess, and all they have to do is avoid that line of questioning until they're finished with the urgent/safety lines of questioning and have given the Miranda. He's got his 5th amendment rights regardless. This seems like a media hype issue to me more than anything.

We had some great discussion of the enemy combatant issue back in the day. There was Jose Padilla and a couple other cases which set some precedent over 10 years ago, all of which I think is still good law. Yankee23 is a walking encyclopedia on the issue. But I think its completely irrelevant to the current situation, at least at this time.

 
So the brother who is still alive and not dead, he is going to be treated as an enemy combatant? Anyone think this is a good idea or bad idea? He basically would not be given a court appointed attorney, basically would be treated as some of those Gitmo folks...I'm not sure how I feel about that but would be interested in what others are thinking. I guess on one hand you have to cover your ### and make sure he isn't part of a larger network or knows things about other future possibilities but there also seems like this is amateurs on a certain level. The bomber went back to school like as if it didn't happen, as if he thought he was going to get away with it.

Also just have to say what an amazing resilience the city of Boston showed and the speed with which the local police and law enforcement were able to move in and apprehend these two quickly was outstanding. I think you gotta give the city an A+ and then some in the response, spirit, and bravery of the citizens and law enforcement. I doubt the city of Miami would be respond that well.

 
People are genuinely upset the Ortiz dropped a F bomb? Do we need to post the pics of amputees to put things back into perspective?

 
He is not being treated as an enemy combatant.
Some of the US Senators are calling for it...
Yes, but Obama will not do it. It really makes little sense in this case. The guy was captured here and it is a slam dunk conviction with all the evidence. Guys captured on the battle field or that rely on intelligence which would not be admissible in court, and that make it difficult to convict some of these combatants that are held in Gitmo.

 
BTW, not an Obama fan in the slightest but I felt he nailed the speech last night. Didn't get too dramatic. Stated what they knew. Even mentioned the Texas explosion. I felt he pulled that off well.

 
So the brother who is still alive and not dead, he is going to be treated as an enemy combatant? Anyone think this is a good idea or bad idea? He basically would not be given a court appointed attorney, basically would be treated as some of those Gitmo folks...I'm not sure how I feel about that but would be interested in what others are thinking. I guess on one hand you have to cover your ### and make sure he isn't part of a larger network or knows things about other future possibilities but there also seems like this is amateurs on a certain level. The bomber went back to school like as if it didn't happen, as if he thought he was going to get away with it.

Also just have to say what an amazing resilience the city of Boston showed and the speed with which the local police and law enforcement were able to move in and apprehend these two quickly was outstanding. I think you gotta give the city an A+ and then some in the response, spirit, and bravery of the citizens and law enforcement. I doubt the city of Miami would be respond that well.
That's an excellent question and I'm amazed no one else thought to ask it yet.

 
10 years ago I worked in Law Enforcement software....and I met with the newly appointed Homeland Security Chief of a state. We discussed the current state of the data sharing between the city, county, and state LE agencies....and the technical capabilities that were available to allow more of it.

At the end of the meeting, he thanked me for the info and said the first priority for him was to spend his new federal funding on hazmat suits and other equipment of that type to prepare them more for nuclear facility attacks or similar.

It was a typical small-picture reactive mindset I'm sure is common in many levels of the DHS. I can't help but think of that when hearing about the government being warned about the older brother.

 
Czechs: we're not Chechens

PRAGUE (AP) — A number of comments by Americans on social media mistaking the Czech Republic for the country of origin of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects— ethnic Chechen brothers — prompted the Czech ambassador to the United States to act.

In a statement posted on the embassy Web site, Petr Gandalovic said "the Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities — the Czech Republic is a Central European country; Chechnya is a part of the Russian Federation."

Gandalovic calls it "a most unfortunate misunderstanding," but some responses on Twitter are less diplomatic.

Mirca Sekerova recommends Americans "open a geography book once in a while...stop blaming our country for this."

And Petr Manda commented: "Well done, U.S. education system."

 
Czechs: we're not Chechens

PRAGUE (AP) — A number of comments by Americans on social media mistaking the Czech Republic for the country of origin of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects— ethnic Chechen brothers — prompted the Czech ambassador to the United States to act.

In a statement posted on the embassy Web site, Petr Gandalovic said "the Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities — the Czech Republic is a Central European country; Chechnya is a part of the Russian Federation."

Gandalovic calls it "a most unfortunate misunderstanding," but some responses on Twitter are less diplomatic.

Mirca Sekerova recommends Americans "open a geography book once in a while...stop blaming our country for this."

And Petr Manda commented: "Well done, U.S. education system."
Good thing nobody here would be that foolish.

 

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