Not a bad offer. But don't blame him for turning it down.Need to offer a better WR than Smith in the deal. Nicks is that good. Best fantasy WR we will see for the next 10 years.
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Fair market value for Hakeem Nicks? (1 Viewer)
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Major
Footballguy
Inconsistent to me is Lee Evans, Steve Smith, Santana Moss types....Nicks is a stud and if you don't start him every week, you're foolish. Why not trade Megatron for a stud RB?Week 6: Calvin @NYG 5 catches, 146 yards, 1 TD for 29ptsNicks Det 3 catches, 8 yardsHe had 2 for 38 in week 2 and 7 for 56 in week 3. His TD saved week 2 but thats beside the point. You took my post out of context. He is an awesome WR but deciding between Nicks and Calvin each week is almost impossible to do. Nicks will probably have at least one more game where he gets few yards and zero TD but do you think you could pick that exact week and choose Calvin over him? No, probably not. It's not that it's a gamble in a same sense that you are thinking but it is a gamble deciding when is the time to count him out and plug Calvin over him and vice versa. Oh and this is in comparison to White who is insanely consistent with a high floor so it is an unfair comparison but that's the context I was speaking in considering the post was about a team with all 3.Nicks?dude is about as close to
in the bank as you can get for a WR
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Ditto.That was a TERRIBLE trade for you. You got robbed.
Minor hijack, but Santana Moss is actually having a very consistent season - he's a good #2 every week just about.Inconsistent to me is Lee Evans, Steve Smith, Santana Moss types....Nicks is a stud and if you don't start him every week, you're foolish. Why not trade Megatron for a stud RB?Week 6: Calvin @NYG 5 catches, 146 yards, 1 TD for 29ptsNicks Det 3 catches, 8 yardsHe had 2 for 38 in week 2 and 7 for 56 in week 3. His TD saved week 2 but thats beside the point. You took my post out of context. He is an awesome WR but deciding between Nicks and Calvin each week is almost impossible to do. Nicks will probably have at least one more game where he gets few yards and zero TD but do you think you could pick that exact week and choose Calvin over him? No, probably not. It's not that it's a gamble in a same sense that you are thinking but it is a gamble deciding when is the time to count him out and plug Calvin over him and vice versa. Oh and this is in comparison to White who is insanely consistent with a high floor so it is an unfair comparison but that's the context I was speaking in considering the post was about a team with all 3.Nicks?in the bank as you can get for a WR
Knight who says Ni
Footballguy
A few weeks ago I was offered Nicks and M. Williams (TB) for Collie (keeper league). Naturally, I took it ...
Clifford
Footballguy
Someone countered Holmes for Lynch with Lynch for Nicks. 
But seriously let's tone down the hype a bit here. Nicks has merely cemented himself among the game's elite. At this point he hasn't proven more than Austin, Andre, White, Wayne, Fitz, or CJ. He has just proven that he belongs in their tier and a 1-1 trade for any of these guys would be reasonable.
But seriously let's tone down the hype a bit here. Nicks has merely cemented himself among the game's elite. At this point he hasn't proven more than Austin, Andre, White, Wayne, Fitz, or CJ. He has just proven that he belongs in their tier and a 1-1 trade for any of these guys would be reasonable.
I agree that the Nicks hype needs to be tempered, even though he is on pace to be a top 5 WR, but consider this. Miles Austin was not on anybody's radar until last year. 81/1320/11 were his numbers last year and his ONLY good year out of the past 5. Nicks is in his 2nd year and on pace to do better than Austin in some respects. I am pretty sure Miles Austin was viewed as a top 10 receiver last year and if Nicks can do what Austin did in his 2nd year on the job, I think it warrants some hype still.Someone countered Holmes for Lynch with Lynch for Nicks.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
I think if Nicks and McFadden had a baby, Chuck Norris would be changing his diapers.All aboard the hyperbole wagon!!monkeysee said:
Clifford
Footballguy
If Nicks and McFadden had a baby, his turds would shoot through those diapers with the force of a Norris punch going through a wooden board. His pee would have the force of a fire-hose and be able to strip bark off trees.I think if Nicks and McFadden had a baby, Chuck Norris would be changing his diapers.All aboard the hyperbole wagon!!monkeysee said:
Sack-Religious
Footballguy
Unless you're afraid Nicks' value falls off a cliff, why would you trade him for pretty much equal WR?Personally, I'm more interested in the RBs he's being traded for.Someone countered Holmes for Lynch with Lynch for Nicks.But seriously let's tone down the hype a bit here. Nicks has merely cemented himself among the game's elite. At this point he hasn't proven more than Austin, Andre, White, Wayne, Fitz, or CJ. He has just proven that he belongs in their tier and a 1-1 trade for any of these guys would be reasonable.
I was in the pool
Footballguy
An owner in my league (keeper) offered me harvin and c.palmer for nicks.....I politely declined. He has foster, rivers, mccoy and marshall.....today I wondered if I would accept a trade of mccoy and marshall for nicks? Its ppr BTW. What combo of players of the bunch would be a good deal? I have Romo, Roethlisberger, R. Rice, R.white and vernon davis earmarked as keepers for next year (nicks would be asayq well if kept). Can keep up to two guys per position, 6 max....
Lehigh98
Footballguy
LeSean McCoy and Brandon Marshall?
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
was offered Fitz for Nicks in my dynasty, i passed. I originally traded Fitz but I am a big Nicks fan and he is one of my favorites. Was also asked would i take Austin for him too in a dynasty before the season and i still passed when Austin was regarded higher.
this has to be schtick right? you can't possibly think nicks is worth a top 10 wr and a top 10 back right?My guess he is talking about Colt McCoy.
footballnerd
Footballguy
Havent heard too much about the "next 10 years" thing, but I think most people are more excited about the deal they got where they took Nicks this year. Production to ADP is outstanding, same for McFadden.All aboard the hyperbole wagon!!monkeysee said:
Waiverhawk
Footballguy
How about this? I was offerered Nicks for MJD. My other RB's are: AP, Fred Jackson, L. Blount, BJGE, Woodhead.
Do I have enough depth to pull it off? I want Nicks, but I'm kinda weak at RB withouth MJD.
My WR's:
Megatron
Austin
DJack
Maclin
V-Jack
Crabtree
Gettis
Do I have enough depth to pull it off? I want Nicks, but I'm kinda weak at RB withouth MJD.
My WR's:
Megatron
Austin
DJack
Maclin
V-Jack
Crabtree
Gettis
thatguy
Footballguy
As the previous poster said, your WR depth is great. Yeah, maybe Nicks outscores all of them going forward, but it won't be enough to offset the huge downgrade at RB. I fall into this trap sometimes, too, where I want a player really badly, and go out of my way to acquire him even though it may be to the detriment of my team. While Nicks for MJD might be a fair offer, it is absolutely not in the best interest of your team.
Waiverhawk
Footballguy
You're right. Sorry to get off topic...thanks for the input though.
Nicks hysteria!! Just saw this go down:
Gerhart, Toby MIN RB;Woodhead, Danny NEP RB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR
for
Jackson, Vincent SDC WR;Jennings, Greg GBP WR;Moeaki, Tony KCC
The team that got Nicks joins him with Kenny Britt, Mike Williams (Tampa), and Larry Fitz. The other team had few assets and needed a sweetheart deal.
Gerhart, Toby MIN RB;Woodhead, Danny NEP RB;Nicks, Hakeem NYG WR
for
Jackson, Vincent SDC WR;Jennings, Greg GBP WR;Moeaki, Tony KCC
The team that got Nicks joins him with Kenny Britt, Mike Williams (Tampa), and Larry Fitz. The other team had few assets and needed a sweetheart deal.
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Just traded away in my standard scoring redraft league for Randy Moss, Jonathon Stewart (who was just picked up off the ww), and Dustin Keller.
Thats not nearly enough in a redraft, its an insult in a dynasty league.
I agree.... as of right now Steve Smith will always play 2nd fiddle even though he might get his points at certain weeks.Foster is a 1 hit wonder. He might have another season to start, but they did draft Ben Tate who looked really good before his injury. Tate will be the RB on the texans for years to come
I dont think Foster is the long term answer, but he might keep the job long enough to be a good FF RB in dynasty leagues. However, Jamaal Charles is one of the top 5-7 dynasty RB's and Nicks is a top 5-7 WR. Smith and Foster are both outside the top 15....IMO.
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
These can be lame, but well done on this one. Made me laugh.
