FanDuel 2015 - Week 4 (1 Viewer)

[NixonMask]

assuming all of the bolded games might be impacted by the hurricane on sunday

10/1 8:25 ET Baltimore -2.5 At Pittsburgh 44

10/4 9:30 AM NY Jets -2 Miami (At London) 41

10/4 1:00 ET At Indianapolis -9 Jacksonville 47

10/4 1:00 ET At Atlanta -6.5 Houston 46.5 ???????

10/4 1:00 ET Carolina -3 At Tampa Bay 40

10/4 1:00 ET At Buffalo -6 NY Giants 47 ???????

10/4 1:00 ET Oakland -3 At Chicago 44

10/4 1:00 ET Philadelphia -3 At Washington 47.5

10/4 1;00 ET At Cincinnati -2.5 Kansas City 43.5

10/4 4:05 ET At San Diego -7.5 Cleveland 45

10/4 4:25 ET Green Bay -9.5 At San Francisco 48

10/4 4:25 ET At Denver -6.5 Minnesota 43

10/4 4:25 ET At Arizona -6.5 St. Louis 42.5

10/4 8:30 ET At New Orleans -4 Dallas 46.5

Monday Night Football Line

10/5 8:30 ET At Seattle -9.5 Detroit 43

Atlanta is in a dome and the Tampa game shouldnt be effected by the hurricane, but its Florida so it may rain anyway. The Buffalo game is worth watching though, it wont be cancelled, but its only just outside of the projected impact zone right now.

 

[andrewd173]

FWIW, player pools for me this week:

QB: Rodgers, Carr, Bortles, Cam

RB: Gore, Karlos Williams, J Randle, some Freeman, some L. Murray, some Bell

WR: Cobb, Hopkins, Hilton, A. Cooper, AJ Green, Moncrief, Hurns, S. Johnson

TE: Olson, Bennett, Clay, Max Williams

K: Whoever Fits Walsh, Lambo

DST: Denver

 

[James Daulton]

The only reason I would play on Thursday is because I want to use the Ravens defense. I know they're not what they use to be and they're facing Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell, but they're also facing Mike Vick on four days notice. You could give Vick 10 days, it wouldn't be enough. He's gonna fumble at least once, maybe twice, in a low scoring game with a Baltimore team desperate for a win. This could be really ugly.

I don't see this at all. The Ravens can be run and passed on. They have no pass rush. I'm betting that Bell will get plenty and Brown will break free for at least one long TD. Vick can pass when he's given time and he'll have plenty of time against the Ravens. I expect him to have decent rushing yards to go with a passing TD or two. I think Vick is a good play.

Well rats...

 

[TropicalStorm]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

 

[karmarooster]

Might have shot myself in the foot on Thursday games, about 80% of lineups have at least one of SS, Luck or Monc. Rotoworld put up the Blurb about Luck being questionable about 10 minutes after kickoff... but Schefter's tweet was from 5:30?! Ugh.

 

[karmarooster]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for rolling with a consensus value play in SS, against a soft defense, who disappointed in part due to injury (yes, I had him). Then gloating over how it benefits you. That's like the DFS equivalent of celebrating an injury that puts your guy into the starting lineup for season-long leagues.

 

[TropicalStorm]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

 

[karmarooster]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

Keep it classy on your way out!

 

[JoeSteeler]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

chill dude...very uncalled for

 

[Fantasysports1]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

 

[Bobcat10]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

Nice. For a second I thought this was popsecret, but he would keep trolling. Enjoy making your easy peasy million.

 

[karmarooster]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

 

[snellman]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

50K Mon Rush #2 $5 11494 Entries, The 179.4 would have put you in a tie 83rd place $35.26 win.

 

[frae]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely.

I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

 

[Fantasysports1]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely.

I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

 

[frae]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

That escalated quickly.

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

You say that, but I've mulled over rostering both Cobb and Jones. They're a combined $14,200, which means you would need to get something like 12-180-1 to be OK. Am I crazy to think that isn't pretty close to a realistic floor for those 2 combined?

 

[Peyton Marino]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

I've been using an average of Dodds, Mike Clay of PFF, and John Paulsen of 4for4. Those are the three who I consistently saw near the top of the fantasypros projections for consecutive years. This week's optimal lineup is running about ~123 points, but that's with Clausen at QB. I ain't playin' no Clausen at QB.

 

[karmarooster]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

I've been using an average of Dodds, Mike Clay of PFF, and John Paulsen of 4for4. Those are the three who I consistently saw near the top of the fantasypros projections for consecutive years. This week's optimal lineup is running about ~123 points, but that's with Clausen at QB. I ain't playin' no Clausen at QB.

Nice, wanna share the Clausen LU? I was toying with him in GPP

 

[Fantasysports1]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

You don't have to use Rodgers

I have

Newton

Latavius

Karlos

Cobb

Fitz

James Jones

Olsen

Bryant

Denver

Projected around 140 points on FD. I think Newton is close to Rodgers with his rushing and the fact he has done well against TB with 6 rushing TDs in 6 games. I am not sure if I want to use both Cobb and James Jones but I think that is okay. You can go up from Cobb to AJ Green, you could even go from James Jones to Moncrief.

 

[frae]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

You don't have to use Rodgers

I have

Newton

Latavius

Karlos

Cobb

Fitz

James Jones

Olsen

Bryant

Denver

Projected around 140 points on FD. I think Newton is close to Rodgers with his rushing and the fact he has done well against TB with 6 rushing TDs in 6 games. I am not sure if I want to use both Cobb and James Jones but I think that is okay. You can go up from Cobb to AJ Green, you could even go from James Jones to Moncrief.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I used Cam in my main Thursday lineup so I was trying to get a little diversity, but I agree I like the matchup for him.

 

[Peyton Marino]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

I've been using an average of Dodds, Mike Clay of PFF, and John Paulsen of 4for4. Those are the three who I consistently saw near the top of the fantasypros projections for consecutive years. This week's optimal lineup is running about ~123 points, but that's with Clausen at QB. I ain't playin' no Clausen at QB.

Nice, wanna share the Clausen LU? I was toying with him in GPP

Clausen 15.3

Freeman 16.1

K. Williams 14.3

J. Jones 20.8

R. Cobb 18.2

D. Thomas 18.4

K. Rudolph 8.6

Z. Hocker 6.0

Panthers 12.6

Totals up to 121.5 points with $400 salary left over. I should note that I force the optimizer to take a min price kicker (actually I manually choose which one I want), so the actual optimal lineup may change. I just haven't messed around with kicker projections yet as I'm not convinced it's predictable enough to be worth my time.

 

[karmarooster]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

I've been using an average of Dodds, Mike Clay of PFF, and John Paulsen of 4for4. Those are the three who I consistently saw near the top of the fantasypros projections for consecutive years. This week's optimal lineup is running about ~123 points, but that's with Clausen at QB. I ain't playin' no Clausen at QB.

Nice, wanna share the Clausen LU? I was toying with him in GPP

Clausen 15.3

Freeman 16.1

K. Williams 14.3

J. Jones 20.8

R. Cobb 18.2

D. Thomas 18.4

K. Rudolph 8.6

Z. Hocker 6.0

Panthers 12.6

Totals up to 121.5 points with $400 salary left over. I should note that I force the optimizer to take a min price kicker (actually I manually choose which one I want), so the actual optimal lineup may change. I just haven't messed around with kicker projections yet as I'm not convinced it's predictable enough to be worth my time.

Thanks. I generally think it's worth paying for a Kicker (and defense), because you're only saving about 500. Anecdotally: no kicker at 4700 or below has averaged 10 ppg. 5 kickers 4800 or above have averaged 10 ppg (Haush, Crosby, McManus, Brown, and Bryant).

 

[FBG Moderator]

Mostly faded Thursday except was very heavy on Leveon Bell - that seemed an easy play just based on the volume he would get, his floor was rediculously high when I ran the numbers. Steve Smith was fairly highly owned (20-24% in the 50/50s) I noticed, so his lack of production/injury will hurt those owners. Not sure why people would be on a 36 yeard old man named Senior on a 4 day week...seemed like a let down was coming, but glad they did in any case. Vick was a known mess - he would have ripped up the Ravens in 2004 though. Sadly, Brown will be hurt dramatically until the Big Unit returns. Flacco was normal erratic self who lacks weapons, Forsett looked strong though. Two teams going nowhere fast but Bell and to a lesser extent Forsett have near-term fantasy value. Bell will be a touch king as long as the Unit is out.

Been around here 2 weeks and already ripping people for a consensus value play in SS against a soft defense who disappointed (yes, I had him), then gloating over it. That's like the DFS equivalent of jumping for joy over an injury in season long leagues because it benefits your guy.

Been around here since the beginning actually, just not on the boards. But thanks for the timeline. Had no idea you or anyone else had SS, it was not a shot at you. I could not care less about your lineups so nothing is personal mate. SS was a dumb play to me as he is very old, been slightly bruised, playing the Steelers at home, been held in check by them in the past, and playing a short week. It was nothing personal, dont be so sensitive. But I am glad you played him, I have been eating from the Fanduel trough for a long, long time playing guys like you - you alon have probablly bought me a car. Now that was ripping, nothing said before was ripping - it was just you going into some Beta-male gibberish and being butt-hurt for not being good at the game. Last post for me ever here and will not revisit the boards but I do love FBG, and will continue to feast on your ilk. You is for FD dinner as we say son. Laterz.

Lets everyone take it down a notch please.

 

[Peyton Marino]

That was just one play in regards to Steve Smith. How many of you guys use projections? RG and FantasyPros have projections based on your lineup. Was wondering how accurate these projections are and if you have a projected lineup of 125 or more points on FD how often you would win with those lineups.

I've been using an average of Dodds, Mike Clay of PFF, and John Paulsen of 4for4. Those are the three who I consistently saw near the top of the fantasypros projections for consecutive years. This week's optimal lineup is running about ~123 points, but that's with Clausen at QB. I ain't playin' no Clausen at QB.

Nice, wanna share the Clausen LU? I was toying with him in GPP

Clausen 15.3

Freeman 16.1

K. Williams 14.3

J. Jones 20.8

R. Cobb 18.2

D. Thomas 18.4

K. Rudolph 8.6

Z. Hocker 6.0

Panthers 12.6

Totals up to 121.5 points with $400 salary left over. I should note that I force the optimizer to take a min price kicker (actually I manually choose which one I want), so the actual optimal lineup may change. I just haven't messed around with kicker projections yet as I'm not convinced it's predictable enough to be worth my time.

Thanks. I generally think it's worth paying for a Kicker (and defense), because you're only saving about 500. Anecdotally: no kicker at 4700 or below has averaged 10 ppg. 5 kickers 4800 or above have averaged 10 ppg (Haush, Crosby, McManus, Brown, and Bryant).

interesting thought, most likely worth a deeper analysis beyond the anecdotal. conceptually, if we believe in the power of projections enough to use them for the other positions, using them for K should be no different. FWIW, here's the optimal lineup with K position included:

Clausen 15.3

Forte 16.1

K. Williams 14.3

J. Jones 20.8

R. Cobb 18.2

E. Sanders 16.7

O. Daniels 6.7

M. Bryant 8.7

Panthers 12.6

Good for a total of 124.5

 

[Bobcat10]

Watkins and McCoy both ruled out. Harvin was 4% in my Thursday GPP. Probably will go up a little at most. Karlos was 55% and 56% owned in my 5050s, could be 75% this weekend. I didn't expect that number before news was official.

 

[karmarooster]

Watkins and McCoy both ruled out. Harvin was 4% in my Thursday GPP. Probably will go up a little at most. Karlos was 55% and 56% owned in my 5050s, could be 75% this weekend. I didn't expect that number before news was official.

Karlos looks like Jeremy Hill last year in that Thursday Night game where was nearly 80% owned.... and he ended up being terrible, but it didn't sting due to the ownership. In cash games, due to his price and ownership, there's zero downside to rostering him everywhere. For GPPs, I'll probably use him on 1/3 and fade him on 2/3 due to ownership.

The other Bill that is fairly under the radar despite the Watkins injury is Clay - could definitely see him getting more looks as a receiver, plus the Giants do have a decent corner in Prince but nothing at Safety. He was 12% in a cash game Thursday, and around 8-10% in GPPs. (For comparison, Olsen was ~25% and Bennett about 13%)

 

[frae]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

You don't have to use Rodgers

I have

Newton

Latavius

Karlos

Cobb

Fitz

James Jones

Olsen

Bryant

Denver

Projected around 140 points on FD. I think Newton is close to Rodgers with his rushing and the fact he has done well against TB with 6 rushing TDs in 6 games. I am not sure if I want to use both Cobb and James Jones but I think that is okay. You can go up from Cobb to AJ Green, you could even go from James Jones to Moncrief.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I used Cam in my main Thursday lineup so I was trying to get a little diversity, but I agree I like the matchup for him.

What about this instead...

Newton

L Murray

K Williams

Cobb

Fitz

A Cooper

J Reed (the game looks safer to be played now)

Bryant

Denver

 

[Scoresman]

The Was/Phi game might end up being played, but they are forecasting 20 mph winds right now. I'm not using Reed this week.

 

[DukeBroadway]

I was eyeing Melvin Gordon for GPP, but looks like SD will be down 4 lineman. Any SD homers care to chime in on this?

 

[Wonderllama]

The only reason I would play on Thursday is because I want to use the Ravens defense. I know they're not what they use to be and they're facing Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell, but they're also facing Mike Vick on four days notice. You could give Vick 10 days, it wouldn't be enough. He's gonna fumble at least once, maybe twice, in a low scoring game with a Baltimore team desperate for a win. This could be really ugly.

I don't see this at all. The Ravens can be run and passed on. They have no pass rush. I'm betting that Bell will get plenty and Brown will break free for at least one long TD. Vick can pass when he's given time and he'll have plenty of time against the Ravens. I expect him to have decent rushing yards to go with a passing TD or two. I think Vick is a good play.

Well rats...

Vick was not terrible enough for the Ravens to be a good play. At least, Le'Veon Bell wasn't. I kinda regret playing on Thursday... maybe I can break even somehow

 

[Bobcat10]

I was eyeing Melvin Gordon for GPP, but looks like SD will be down 4 lineman. Any SD homers care to chime in on this?

Oppo side, but as bad as my Browns have played I've convinced myself to go with just Woodhead in a couple gpp. SD has played from behind more than anyone this year. Their OL is worrisome as you mentioned. The Browns are a great recipe to fix all that but I've just got a feeling the Browns will play better D this week.

 

[Fantasysports1]

My Mon-Thurs lineup hit 179.4, but I only put it in a few 50/50s and 1x100 player league for $1 (hit 1st for $25), won $34 on $6.

Curious, does anyone have a large GPP from Mon-Thurs slate to know what 179.4 would've hit?

Yeah my Monday Thursday wound up at 152 in two 50/50's and the cut was around 143 so that worked out nicely. I mostly faded last night, I used Bell in one $2 250 person tournament and did throw a $2 250 tournament with Vick/Brown Smith which is just DOA now.

For Sunday 50/50 and Double Ups I am using...

Rodgers

L Murray

K Williams

R Cobb

L Fitz

A Robinson/Maclin

Bennett

D Carpenter

Denver

I don't think Allen Robinson or Maclin are strong cash plays. I think James Jones is the play as he will be highly owned. Olsen is safer than Bennett as Clausen may not make many throws.

I agree on jones but I would have to come off Cobb. Maybe I could go with cooper fitz and jones and invest elsewhere?

You don't have to use Rodgers

I have

Newton

Latavius

Karlos

Cobb

Fitz

James Jones

Olsen

Bryant

Denver

Projected around 140 points on FD. I think Newton is close to Rodgers with his rushing and the fact he has done well against TB with 6 rushing TDs in 6 games. I am not sure if I want to use both Cobb and James Jones but I think that is okay. You can go up from Cobb to AJ Green, you could even go from James Jones to Moncrief.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I used Cam in my main Thursday lineup so I was trying to get a little diversity, but I agree I like the matchup for him.

What about this instead...

Newton

L Murray

K Williams

Cobb

Fitz

A Cooper

J Reed (the game looks safer to be played now)

Bryant

Denver

Why not play James Jones? I now have James Jones and Olsen instead of Fitz and Reed. I think Olsen is the top cash TE. While Fitz has been great, he is playing a strong Rams defense and it is possible he does have a let down game where Palmer focuses on other WRs. James Jones is no lock but he is the #2 WR in GB, catching a TD every game and will be popular, probably more than Fitzgerald. There is a bit of concern that James Jones will be more of a focus by the defense but he will likely get more targets.

Unless you want to chance that Fitzgerald has another big game to give yourself more cushion, though James Jones is capable of outscoring Fitzgerald as I think Jones chances of a score are higher than Fitzgerald. There are more mouths to feed in Arizona as Brown and Floyd may get theirs.

Basically I think Olsen is a clear upgrade to Reed given he will be much higher owned and the uncertainty with the weather. Just my observations, think the lineup is still pretty good.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Thoughts for GPP?

Rodgers

Peterson

K Williams

James Jones

J Mathews

Moncrief

Olsen

McManus

Cardinals

 

[lmack]

interesting Dodds cash lineup

Rodgers

Lacy, Karlos Williams

Cobb, James Jones, Amari

Bennett

Not sure if it has the same punch but think the Dodds' stack style cash play could work for Raiders this week. Carr, Latavius, Cooper. Will at least be playing a couple.

 

[msudaisy26]

Am I the only one that is having trouble finding a different lineup for cash games?

Cam

Murray

Karlos Williams

Julio

Hopkins

Harvin

Bennett

Gano

Denver

Almost every time I have had a lineup I just love and have a hard time locking in anything else I have a bad week. Someone give me a pointer or something on this..

 

[freeannyong]

Am I the only one that is having trouble finding a different lineup for cash games?

Cam

Murray

Karlos Williams

Julio

Hopkins

Harvin

Bennett

Gano

Denver

Almost every time I have had a lineup I just love and have a hard time locking in anything else I have a bad week. Someone give me a pointer or something on this..

Murray and Harvin for cash? No thanks. I also don't think Williams is a must play on Fanduel (at 3400 on DK it's a no brainer).

I think you can plug one of Cooper/Fitz in for Harvin and go down from Murray.

 

[tangfoot]

Murray and Harvin for cash? No thanks. I also don't think Williams is a must play on Fanduel (at 3400 on DK it's a no brainer).

I think you can plug one of Cooper/Fitz in for Harvin and go down from Murray.

Latavius, not Demarco.

 

[freeannyong]

Murray and Harvin for cash? No thanks. I also don't think Williams is a must play on Fanduel (at 3400 on DK it's a no brainer).

I think you can plug one of Cooper/Fitz in for Harvin and go down from Murray.

Latavius, not Demarco.

duh, not sure where i got it was demarco.

I couldn't really stomach doing Harvin, but seems like a reasonable matchup. Probably can't do anything with it unless you move off Cam and Hopkins then you can shuffle a bit (who are both good plays). If you really believe in Harvin go with it.

 

[msudaisy26]

Murray and Harvin for cash? No thanks. I also don't think Williams is a must play on Fanduel (at 3400 on DK it's a no brainer).

I think you can plug one of Cooper/Fitz in for Harvin and go down from Murray.

Latavius, not Demarco.

Williams is a must play, I would say at least 70% of cash lineups will have so he doesn't really hurt if he is bust. Yes, it is Latavius, he has a great match up. I think Harvin does well this week with Watkins out. I think he is a very low floor of about 8 points this week,

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

I guess I've settled on my 3 Sun-Mon cash lineups. My QBs are Bortles (Thursday), Cam, Carr, and Tyrod. I'm way too invested in Denver DST but other than lineups in which I could find a way to make Seattle work, I just can't find anything else I like other than maybe Arizona.

 

[VA703]

pretty set on my lineup

going carr

typical rb and wr trio as discussed

i hope i can fit olsen as im feeling bennett will be a dud (same for forte)

honestly im tempted to go CLAY this week with hawkins out

lambo

and am i the only person that likes the JETS this week????

ivc shows solid 130

 

[Tennessee_ATO]

pretty set on my lineup

going carr

typical rb and wr trio as discussed

i hope i can fit olsen as im feeling bennett will be a dud (same for forte)

honestly im tempted to go CLAY this week with hawkins out

lambo

and am i the only person that likes the JETS this week????

ivc shows solid 130

Jets aren't available on the main FD contests.

 

[DukeBroadway]

So general consensus that Karlos Williams is basically a must play in cash based on ownership %?

 

[wyattroa]

anyone playing marvin jones? ALso I find myself going heavy on crabtree this week

 

[Fantasysports1]

Currently my two main cash lineups, though I prefer the Rodgers one because he is the top QB play

Rodgers
Latavius
Karlos
Cobb
Cooper
Harvin (should be pretty solid vs. James Jones as he is the main pass catcher)
Olsen
Josh Brown
Denver

Newton
Latavius
Karlos
Cobb
Cooper
James Jones
Olsen
Matt Bryant
Cardinals

I did like Fitzgerald but I think Cooper is in a better spot. Tough as having Cooper and Latavius could be a bit risky in cash. Fitzgerald would be a hedge . I also have a lineup with Tyrod and Julio that I like but I think Cobb should be fine if you have Newton and especially Rodgers.

 

[Pantherz]

anyone playing marvin jones? ALso I find myself going heavy on crabtree this week

I've got him in some, maybe 10%. Him and Harvin are mostly GPP plays for me though.

 

[DukeBroadway]

Thoughts for GPP?

Rodgers

Peterson

K Williams

James Jones

J Mathews

Moncrief

Olsen

McManus

Cardinals

I think the Vikes will be without Johnson and Wright. So only wallace to spread the field. It may be tough sledding for peterson. I am loooking to have charles in line ups.

 

[DukeBroadway]

I am finding that I continually gravitate towards certain players this week. For me the whole the whole 5900-6900 is a wasteland at WR. James Jones and Moncrief are the only decent options. I am also wanting to try to sprinkle Bennett in this week at TE. However I always have enough cash to go back to the Olson well. Guys I apparently cant get away from this week:

QB: Rodgers, Carr, Tyrod

RB: K.Williams, JC25, Forte

WR: Cobb, Ja. Jones, Ju.Jones, Matthews, Cooper, Crabtree, Hilton, Hurns, Hopikis

TE: Olson (Gonna try to work in Bennett and Clay)

K: Bryant, McManus, Catanzaro

DST: Broncos/Panthers