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Fantasy Football Implications from MNF Game (1 Viewer)

The order of the Week #18 games is not yet established. If Cincinnati plays first and wins, the pressure is on Buffalo to also win (plus they keep the pressure on KC to win). If Buffalo wins, there is incentive for KC to win.
But KC's incentive is irrelevant for Buf/Cin players that should have played week 17. Those are the only players that matter with regards to finding an outcome to the week 17 fantasy games by using week 18 stats if last night's game isn't continued. Looking at the schedule the Bills are already scheduled for the early time slot on Sunday. Looks like Cincy is TBD. I would assume that they would have that in the same slot as Buffalo so that neither team gains an advantage.

I suppose if KC wins Saturday that may make the Buffalo game irrelevant? I really haven't looked into all the new scenarios.
KC's incentive is irrelevant, except as it relates to Buffalo being incentivized to win to keep the pressure on KC.
My point is that the logical order for these Week #18 games is:

BAL.pngBaltimore Ravens (10-6)atCIN.pngCincinnati Bengals (11-4)
NE.pngNew England Patriots (8-8)atBUF.pngBuffalo Bills (12-3)
KC.pngKansas City Chiefs (13-3)atLV.pngLas Vegas Raiders (6-10)
 
As far as the playoffs go, only the Super Bowl has a solid day and location as of now. So if they wanted to push everything back a week they could squeeze the extra makeup game in week 19.
 
As Commish of one league, my plan is this:
If the game resumes, simple, use Week #17's stats.
If this game is not played, the players who have stats pending will be awarded points based on Week #18's games.

Can you clarify... you'll add week18 stats for only Bills/Bengals players? What about any points those players got in Week17, erase those?
Those points would be erased
 
As far as the playoffs go, only the Super Bowl has a solid day and location as of now. So if they wanted to push everything back a week they could squeeze the extra makeup game in week 19.
So it thens become a week 19 game. One league site I am on states in it's rules for a game to count it must be completed in the week it is scheduled. The NFL "week" ends on Wednesday,Thursday is day one of the following week. So either way this game will not be a week 17 game. Just thought I'd put that out there.
 
As far as the playoffs go, only the Super Bowl has a solid day and location as of now. So if they wanted to push everything back a week they could squeeze the extra makeup game in week 19.
So if they did this one problem would be if any of the players got injured Allen, Diggs, Chase, Burrow, Higgins ect. So then what happens in week 19 when they resumed the game for those people's players ?

So that is really not great you don't get week 18 pts and you have to sweat out your guy getting injured which would alter your championship game.

A complete mess for fantasy looking at that angel.
 
So if they did this one problem would be if any of the players got injured Allen, Diggs, Chase, Burrow, Higgins ect. So then what happens in week 19 when they resumed the game for those people's players ?

So that is really not great you don't get week 18 pts and you have to sweat out your guy getting injured which would alter your championship game.

A complete mess for fantasy looking at that angel.
My solution for the injured player in week 18 not being able to play in week 19 would be that owner could put in a replacement player just like he would if that player got injured in week 12 for a week 13 game. It really isn't any different than that other than there being less choices since it's only one game's worth of players
 
Yeah, I get that a week 19 will still cause some fantasy problems. But the NFL cares not about that angle, if they did there wouldn't be week 14 byes.
 
As far as the playoffs go, only the Super Bowl has a solid day and location as of now. So if they wanted to push everything back a week they could squeeze the extra makeup game in week 19.
So if they did this one problem would be if any of the players got injured Allen, Diggs, Chase, Burrow, Higgins ect. So then what happens in week 19 when they resumed the game for those people's players ?

So that is really not great you don't get week 18 pts and you have to sweat out your guy getting injured which would alter your championship game.

A complete mess for fantasy looking at that angel.
Agree. I think the best solution for fantasy purposes would be to decide on a course of action now that we know the game will not be a week 17 game. Just my thoughts so as not to drag this out,people will be upset,people will be glad,but that's the nature of fantasy football every week.
 
So it thens become a week 19 game. One league site I am on states in it's rules for a game to count it must be completed in the week it is scheduled. The NFL "week" ends on Wednesday,Thursday is day one of the following week. So either way this game will not be a week 17 game. Just thought I'd put that out there.
this is unprecedented. You may have to hand do the stats if the website won't support this kind of thing.
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.
 
So it thens become a week 19 game. One league site I am on states in it's rules for a game to count it must be completed in the week it is scheduled. The NFL "week" ends on Wednesday,Thursday is day one of the following week. So either way this game will not be a week 17 game. Just thought I'd put that out there.
this is unprecedented. You may have to hand do the stats if the website won't support this kind of thing.
This is a national site with the people who run the games making the final decision,players have no input. We agree to abide by the rules
 
So if they did this one problem would be if any of the players got injured Allen, Diggs, Chase, Burrow, Higgins ect. So then what happens in week 19 when they resumed the game for those people's players ?

So that is really not great you don't get week 18 pts and you have to sweat out your guy getting injured which would alter your championship game.

A complete mess for fantasy looking at that angel.
My solution for the injured player in week 18 not being able to play in week 19 would be that owner could put in a replacement player just like he would if that player got injured in week 12 for a week 13 game. It really isn't any different than that other than there being less choices since it's only one game's worth of players
Except there are only 2 teams in play week 19 Buf/Cin what are the chances he has a replacement ? Not likely at all.
 
As far as the playoffs go, only the Super Bowl has a solid day and location as of now. So if they wanted to push everything back a week they could squeeze the extra makeup game in week 19.
I believe this will happen. There's no scenario where the Buff-Cin game is meaningless.
If KC and Buff both win in week 18 then Buff can get the #1 seed in week 19.
If KC and Buff both lose and Cinn wins in week 18 then Buff-Cinn would determine #1 seed.
If Cinn loses week 18 and loses to Buff in week 19 then Balt wins the division.
If KC and Cinn win week 18 and Buff loses then Buff-Cinn play for the #2 seed.

Prayers for Damar. 🙏
 
Well never mind about Wednesday night football. I guess it just doesn't get played. Not sure how they would squeeze it in.
 
In my local league, the game was a dead tie going into last night. Higgins vs McPherson. Decided to move the matchup with just those two to the first week of the playoffs since they are on the same team.

Decided against doing it week 18 in case someone sat out (Higgins or Burrow)
 
So if they did this one problem would be if any of the players got injured Allen, Diggs, Chase, Burrow, Higgins ect. So then what happens in week 19 when they resumed the game for those people's players ?

So that is really not great you don't get week 18 pts and you have to sweat out your guy getting injured which would alter your championship game.

A complete mess for fantasy looking at that angel.
My solution for the injured player in week 18 not being able to play in week 19 would be that owner could put in a replacement player just like he would if that player got injured in week 12 for a week 13 game. It really isn't any different than that other than there being less choices since it's only one game's worth of players
Except there are only 2 teams in play week 19 Buf/Cin what are the chances he has a replacement ? Not likely at all.
It's unfortunate but it still is a possibility and better than taking a zero. It's a weird situation and this is a feasible solution that is fair for everyone while still giving an opportunity to get points for the continuation of that game. I would guess guys like Beasley, Irwin, Shakir, McKenzie could be available. You can even say those players are available even if they were on another team just for this particular instance and that the other team can't block them if you want to make sure that team gets a replacement.
 
16 team $300 buy in. I was down 9 points with Josh Allen to go. I’m playing the commissioner in championship game. He texted me before the game “congrats you won” as Allen’s lowest score all year was like 19 points. Will be interesting to see what he decides. I’m just gonna laugh so I don’t cry haha
He's gotta still concede to you.
Yeah, he's commissioner, so he has to concede (and then put in rules on the off-season).
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.

Your league just had the absolute worst result happen if you are on MFL -- MFL zeroed out all the players from the Bills/Bengals game.
 
Money is getting split down the middle between the two teams that were competing in the Championship game
I had to step in for several commissioners who were actually playing in the Final

Nobody has gotten salty or mad yet, in fact both teams/managers seemed more than agreeable to it
I personally wanted to see teams do a replay in Week 18 but that was not a popular move

It was my first thought last night, 1st and 2nd would be added together and split
That's exactly what has happened in all of my leagues so far

Nobody seems to want to play next week
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.
I would really hope the other team would pro-actively concede.
 
As for regular FF championships that could have gone either way, I'm all for splitting the pot.
I think splitting the pot is close to the fairest thing you can do.
I understand it might have been lopsided for some games going into last night, not every FFC was a nail biter this past weekend
But many of the games I was involved in were pretty close
I've had many a poker tournaments when we get down to 2-3-4 people that start talking about chopping the pot or money, different scenario for sure
 
Split the money down the middle in tight matchups with realistic chances for both teams to still win it. Give the "prestige" title to the team ahead.

Thankfully in 2 teams I commish, the title was already decided.
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.
I would still split the pot or chop it between the 2 of them...if the guy with +2 concedes, makes your job very easy
But every situation is different and probably the 2 guys involved can easily work it out
 
In the league I run, I was in the championship. It wasnt over, but it was over. I paid the other guy today.
Bottom line: case by case decision.
Same situation here. I'm commish, and was almost surely going to lose last night (+37, he still had Allen/Diggs/Singletary/Wilson). But as the scores stand now, I would be winner. That certainly doesn't seem fair. With the game officially not being made-up this week, I have decided to concede.
 
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Given these unprecedented circumstances, we will be scoring Week 17 as is. If the NFL resumes the game at a later time, there will be an option in commissioner tools to re-run Week 17 results. This is an option, not the default. Our prayers are with Damar Hamlin and his family.
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.

Your league just had the absolute worst result happen if you are on MFL -- MFL zeroed out all the players from the Bills/Bengals game.
Here's the message from MFL:

THE FINAL STATS FOR WEEK 17 HAVE BEEN PROCESSED NOW, AND YOUR LEAGUE STANDINGS HAVE BEEN UPDATED. THE STATS DO NOT INCLUDE THE PARTIAL GAME STATS FROM THE MONDAY NIGHT BENGALS-BILLS GAME SINCE THE NFL DECLARED THAT THE GAME WILL NOT BE PLAYED THIS WEEK. SHOULD THE NFL RESCHEDULE THIS GAME AT A LATER DATE THOSE STATS WILL BE APPLIED TO THAT WEEK.

Sounds to me, like they will update if the game is played... if not, it's a zero for the player. Personally, I don't like it as owners would have made different decisions. I'm in the avg points per player bucket.
 
One of my leagues had a team with a 10-point lead with Allen/Higgins left vs a team with Burrow/Davis left. Seems like we are just going to award the team who was leading going into the game the title, as they were almost certainly going to win anyway.
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.
That seems like a pretty clear victory for the team with Allen/Chase/Higgins. That'd be a pretty lame owner to complain about that, as those guys had in 2 series already scored enough points.

The one league I'm having some trouble with, is a points league that plays in week 18. I think the solution there, which sucks, is to just count this game as being over and the stats the players got last night, is what they got. 1st place is already wrapped up, but 2nd and 3rd place (which both pay out) are only 10 apart, and one of them had Burrow. I would have been ok just saying "ok, you get whatever points your backup QB scored," but they aren't carrying a backup QB, so I think the answer there is just to treat it like you would if a player left a game early with an injury or ejection. They got the points they got, the end.
 
MFL tweet

With all due respect to the situation, MFL has concluded that all Bills/Bengals will receive no default points for Week 17 of the 2022-23 season. We highly suggest each individual league take advantage of MFL’s flexibility to decide what is best for their unique group
 
I'm in the Championship game and up 11 with Allen against his Singletary / Diggs / Edmunds (IDP) in 1PPR and 4 pt TD. Going to be a tough decision to make either way.
 
The one league I'm having some trouble with, is a points league that plays in week 18. I think the solution there, which sucks, is to just count this game as being over and the stats the players got last night, is what they got. 1st place is already wrapped up, but 2nd and 3rd place (which both pay out) are only 10 apart, and one of them had Burrow. I would have been ok just saying "ok, you get whatever points your backup QB scored," but they aren't carrying a backup QB, so I think the answer there is just to treat it like you would if a player left a game early with an injury or ejection. They got the points they got, the end.
We are leaning towards double counting week 18 for the applicable players and assigning the week 18 total to the week 17 games. If the week 17 does continue in week 19 then we will revert to the week 19 scores for the week 17 game.

The solution above seems fairer than just giving a zero for the week 17 game to me.
 
MFL tweet

With all due respect to the situation, MFL has concluded that all Bills/Bengals will receive no default points for Week 17 of the 2022-23 season. We highly suggest each individual league take advantage of MFL’s flexibility to decide what is best for their unique group
The way they worded it on my home page it sounds like those points would still count if the game was resumed from that spot. As of now it's a reset in case the game is cancelled or replayed from the start.
 
In our league final, heading into MNF, one team had 104.72 points and no players left.
The other team only had 101.6 but had Josh Allen, Ja'Marr Chase, and Tee Higgins left.
In the limited time played, those 3 combined to take the lead and score 5.02 to make the score 106.62 to 104.72.

I think it's pretty obvious that the team with Allen and Chase should win this thing and I'm ready to declare a winner and pay out but I'm really hoping the other team doesn't find some reason to complain about it.
If the 104.72 team owner doesn't concede he should be mercilessly ridiculed forever or until he quits the league.
 
Split the money down the middle in tight matchups with realistic chances for both teams to still win it. Give the "prestige" title to the team ahead.

Thankfully in 2 teams I commish, the title was already decided.
Yeah this is what I'm advocating for in the leagues I'm in where this matters.
 
MFL tweet

With all due respect to the situation, MFL has concluded that all Bills/Bengals will receive no default points for Week 17 of the 2022-23 season. We highly suggest each individual league take advantage of MFL’s flexibility to decide what is best for their unique group
The way they worded it on my home page it sounds like those points would still count if the game was resumed from that spot. As of now it's a reset in case the game is cancelled or replayed from the start.
They sent another tweet in reply in that thread saying that will not be the case. All stats default to zero. No points applied in event of reschedule, unless commish overrides.

 
I am in one of those rare leagues with a Week 18 final. One semi has one team with a sizable lead and the other with Allen, Higgins, Gabe Davis and Knox. Going in, the Allen owner was given a 45% chance to win. Thoughts? It is a lot easier to chop a final than a semifinal
Have everyone submit a lineup for week 18 and those Bills and Bengals players scores count for both week 17 semi and the week 18 finals (If it matters)
 
I made the final in a Best Ball tournament on DK with Burrow and Chase still to go. Looks like I’m screwed out of possibly moving up for more money.
 
Not sure if anyone's posted this statement from Yahoo yet:
Yahoo Fantasy is waiting for the NFL’s decision on the resolution of the Bills-Bengals game, which was suspended when Buffalo S Damar Hamlin went into cardiac arrest. Once the NFL shares their plans for the game, we will make a determination on how to proceed with Week 17 scoring. While we understand this game impacts fantasy league championships, our main concern is Damar’s health at this time. We ask for your patience as we await updates. Our thoughts are with Damar, his family and the Buffalo Bills.
 
I’m commish, and also one of the teams in the LCG.

We have not yet broached the subject, other than agree that we need to see if the NFL will resume play.

It’s awful on every level.
 
If the game is not rescheduled and won't be counted in the standings then no stats from the game will ever count as official stats. As such I think MFL is making the right call and any player in the game should get a zero.
 
Home leagues are, or at least should be, easy to address. I wonder what the national leagues do? If I had a vote, I would want them to substitue weekly average points for the BUF/CIN players. Next best option, I suppose, would be to scrap BUF/CIN partial stats and use BUF/CIN stats from week 18. Not sure their software could even do this, though.
 
Most of the national contest rely on official stats and any corrections by Elias. Like I said a few posts up if the game is not rescheduled I guess the league has a choice to call it "as is" or more likely label at as "no game played". If that happens I assume the Elias stat correction will be zero stats for players in the game last night. I've got leagues of mine what few stats that were compiled absolutely alter outcomes, and not local leagues were people can just work it out.
 
Purely from a fantasy perspective, it's better that this happened during the finals rather than an earlier playoff round. No rush to figure it out, and you can always split the pot as a fallback option. Imagine if this happened in the semis and you only had a few days to figure out who was playing in the championship, how to handle waivers, etc.
 
If the game is not rescheduled and won't be counted in the standings then no stats from the game will ever count as official stats. As such I think MFL is making the right call and any player in the game should get a zero.
I agree, if the game is cancelled (it is) then thats it, 0 points from that game and the 2022 ff season is over. If home lgs want to try something else fine, but it is no brainer for mid and high stakes lgs, the game is cancelled, playoffs are over. It stinks, hurts me in some, helps in others, but there really is no other option.
 
Have Burrow and Allen play the game out on Madden. Or have the Manning brothers do it or something. Market it and televise the twitch stream. Everyone wins.
 
I agree, if the game is cancelled (it is) then thats it, 0 points from that game and the 2022 ff season is over. If home lgs want to try something else fine, but it is no brainer for mid and high stakes lgs, the game is cancelled, playoffs are over. It stinks, hurts me in some, helps in others, but there really is no other option.
I guess in public leagues with thousands of competitors there likely isn't another simple option. But for private leagues there is a simple solution. Use Week 18 pts for week 17 for the Buf/Cin players. It is simple and easy to figure out. If they decide after week 18 to resume the suspended game in week 19 then those stats will count for week 17. Straightforward and simple. This is the option.
 

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