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And how many of those guys went out like Favre (retire and unretire)? And what about how he's treating the team? He's fought most of this battle in the media and in the spotlight - why is he not to blame for a good chunk?
My opinion is he deserves a ton of blame for this. Both sides do. This has been a joke for a long time and both sides have contributed significantly to the embarrassment. But now that Favre has been reinstated I believe he should be allowed to compete for the starting job. I view that as a win-win for the Packers. If Rodgers can beat out Favre, that means he's pretty damn good and the Packers will be better off as a result. If Favre regains the job, then the Packers have avoided putting arguably the most important position on the field in the hands of an inferior player when a better option was available. The Packer fans would also be winners because either way, the team has a better chance for success. As Michael Scott would say, this is a great example of the "Win-Win-Win" strategy of negotiations.
:fishing: And if the Packers limit him in practice and then release him right before the season starts, their franchise is a joke. Considering all of the success they have had since Favre got there, he deserves better than that.
If they decide they are not going to let him compete...why does that make them a joke?That makes them smart not letting him go prepare with the Vikings...their major competition who they happen to play on Monday night opening weekend.
 
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My opinion is he deserves a ton of blame for this. Both sides do. This has been a joke for a long time and both sides have contributed significantly to the embarrassment.

But now that Favre has been reinstated I believe he should be allowed to compete for the starting job. I view that as a win-win for the Packers. If Rodgers can beat out Favre, that means he's pretty damn good and the Packers will be better off as a result. If Favre regains the job, then the Packers have avoided putting arguably the most important position on the field in the hands of an inferior player when a better option was available. The Packer fans would also be winners because either way, the team has a better chance for success.

As Michael Scott would say, this is a great example of the "Win-Win-Win" strategy of negotiations.

Competition?? And should the competition show Rogers to be the better QB, do you think Farve will accept that? How many people will say prejudice had a hand in the starting QB decision whether it be Farve or Rogers.

I believe that Farve still wanted to play his "yes I am, no I'm not" game again and it got out of hand for him.

Bring him back, and he can sit the bench as a backup. Rogers has been jerked around enough by Farve's childish attempts at attention. Wouldn't that be something for Farve to come back, then telling Rogers "Sorry buddy but it's the bench for you" again. Then after one year Farve really actually does retire and Rogers says he has had enough - goes on to another team and become a top notch QB and GB is left with untrained rookies.

This gets old and we'll probably have to go through this same 'game' again next year regardless of what team Farve is on.

 
Reinstated and............... If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :fishing:
 
The Packers are between a rock and a hard place, and Favre is trying to leverage them so he can go to his preferred team. So, the smart move by them is to let him compete for the job, with the understanding that he has to significantly outplay their current starter (Rodgers), and he will go with the second stringers. If, by the end of preseason, the differnce betwen him and Rodgers is 70-30, then they start him. On the other hand, if the difference is 55-45, then they have him hold a clipboard or release him. Remember, he is 38, and his skills are eroding, year after year.

 
I can't think of a better way to assure that their "QB of the future" fails than to have Brett Farve sitting on the bench, healthy and ready to go.
If Aaron Rodgers is truly going to be the QB of the future, he shouldn't be afraid of competition - even if the competition is coming from one of the game's greatest QBs of all time. I think this is a very good opportunity for the Packers to find out right now just what Rodgers is made of. Unfortunately (assuming this rumor is true), it appears Thompson is afraid of what might happen and is trying to coddle his guy without any threat of competition that could make the team better.
Or he and the team have tried to move on without the constant waffling of #4 who was given several chances to change his mind earlier and decided not to until just now.Perhaps Favre always wanted this release and thinks this is the best way to get it...in that case...is there anything Thompson could have done? I agree he should be allowed to compete...but I can also see the team's side to this.They cannot keep going on just wondering what Brett will do...they needed some certainty this offseason and they moved on.
I don't dispute any of this. As I said, Favre bears a lot of the responsibility for the mess this has become. However, what happened in March or at any time since is irrelevant now. The only thing that matters now (or should matter in my opinion) is what gives the Packers their best chance to win this season now that Favre has unretired. In my opinion, there is only one logical, intelligent, rational decision the team should make.Unfortunately, it's the one decision Thompson appears hellbent on avoiding.
 
Let's say that Favre is released the day before the season starts. That's Wednesday, September 3. The Vikings play the Packers on Monday, September 8. Is that enough time for Favre to be ready enough to start for the Vikings in that game? I'm not sure I see the significance of releasing him the day before the season starts. Why not wait until September 9? That way, you know he won't make it to burn you that season opening game.
It's enough to get into Aaron Rodgers head.......
Id say its already in his head.Every pass of his will already be watched the minute this thing started.Still waiting on that timeline of when Thompson's eyes showed he was lying.IMO...you were the one lying thinking nobody had a clue about behaviors like that.
 
The team better make sure that Rodgers' red jersey tonight has flashing lights. Wouldn't it be something if some veteran Defensive player got a shot in on him during the scrimmage?
That defensive player would face major sanctions as well...no player is going to risk that...and no player has acted like they would even think about doing such a thing.
 
The seeds for this situation were planted back when TT drafted Rodgers. From that day forward, there was guaranteed to be tension between Favre and TT.
Then Favre needs to grow up if he cannot handle the team trying to prepare for life after him...especially since he has thought so much about retirement in the past several years.
 
Competition?? And should the competition show Rogers to be the better QB, do you think Farve will accept that?
He'll have no choice but to accept it. If he wants to return to the Packers - and his public comments have been that playing for Green Bay has always been his preferred option - that's the deal. He has been quoted as saying he isn't demanding his starting job back. He just wants to compete for the job. I've yet to see what I believe is a legitimate reason presented as to why Thompson won't allow him to.
 
Heaven forbid the Packers make the almighty Brett Favre be a backup. They are supposed to let him do as he pleases. :fishing:

That rumor of them cutting him the day before the season is a rumor and I for one don't believe they will cut him.

As for this mess, this is Favre's fault as far as I'm concerned. Trying to strongarm them into releasing him is the BS in this. The Packer's are not going to just cut him because it's not in the best interests of the team.

I'd like to see them have the stones to make him the 3rd QB and hold the clipboard. :lmao:
Yeah, me too because that would be whats best for the team, right?? :goodposting: BTW- Favre first wanted to come back and play for the Packers. It wasn't until; they took their stance that he asked to be released. As an impartial football fan I look at this situation with curiosity wondering why they (Packers) are so adamant about Rodgers being the starter. Don't most training camps allow players to play for their position? Why would the team anoint Rodgers the starter, especially when he has NEVER started a game? Why not let Favre come into training camp and let them battle for the starting position, that way the packers have the best option out there week 1. it's my opinion the Packers brought this on themselves but stubbornly anointing Rodgers the starter and sticking to this to the point where they are making themselves look bad rather than just letting him come to camp and letting them compete for the starting position. That way the best player wins and the Packers end up with the best option at the starting QB position.

When is Rodgers current contract up?

 
It is all Brett Favre's fault.

He ofiicially retired, and the Packers drafted not 1, but 2 quarterbacks this year. They made their plans and named Rodgers the starter when Brett retired. If he wanted to play again, he shouldn't have QUIT back in March.
 
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Reinstated and............... If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :fishing:
You realize QB is the most important position in football? You realize that Rodgers could very well be a major bust? You realize he has had two significant injuries as a backup QB? You realize if he gets hurt that you will be forced to play Brohm? I don't know if you realize any of this, I think you just don't get it, you new to football?
 
At this point I think you have to let him be the QB and somehow find a way to satisfy Rodgers.

Maybe sign Rodgers to a more-than-fair early extention. Maybe install some kind of dual duty QB plan ala Arizona in 2007. Hell, I don't know what's right anymore. This thing is so weird.

 
They're still going to end up trading him. I don't think he'll see the Packers' practice field at all.

Doesn't make any sense for Goodell to go ahead and reinstate him today and not wait until tomorrow (as he said he was going to do yesterday) if they hadn't informed him that they have come to terms with somebody. This all appears strictly procedural to me, and will probably announce the trade tomorrow.

 
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I like Favre - and I had hoped he would be re-instated to play for GB, or whoever he chooses. But, I can't see how this ends well for Favre (or the Packers for that matter).

If both sides are as stubborn as appears, then the Packers will not release him until it the end of pre-season, and it will probably be too late for any team to take a chance on him, absent an injury. Even the best QBs cannot simply walk into another team, and understand the playbook, terminology, etc. You are looking at a 4-week process at best - and most teams, including the Vikings will have committed to their starting QB.

So, this will end up being much ado about nothing for Favre - he should have taken the bribe to stay retired.

 
It is all Brett Favre's fault.

So if the Bulls drafted a Power Forward then Michael Jordan should stay retired? You realize one of the QBS they drafted was in the 7th round, you realize alot of 7th round picks don't end up HOFers and sometimes even don't make the team? They drafted 1 QB and took a flyer on another as far as i'm concerned, yes officially they did draft 2 but that's just semantics. The Packers are using this "We drafted TWO qbs" as a talking point to get public opinion on their side, it's transparent.

If there were a few less "Supplemental picks" this year, just a few then this Flynn would have been undrafted, late 7th round. I'm sure the Packers are expecting great things from him. :fishing:

 
Rotoworld claims: "Favre plans to fly to Green Bay on Sunday and report to camp. The latest rumor is that the Packers plan to let Favre do only individual work in camp and release him the day before the season starts. At that point, he'll be so far behind that he won't be able to help a team like the Vikings early in the season."
That would be the biggest chicken ##### move by the Packers.
Yup. It's gutless. If Favre reports, let him compete. Thompson shouldn't be afraid of competition that could (and almost certainly would) make the team better. I simply cannot understand what the hell he is doing here. It doesn't make a lick of sense.
For either of you - I don't understand why it's gutless. Farve has been trying to leverage a power play since this thing started - and the funny thing is he has no power.
You don't treat a legend like that. If you don't want him on your team, release him now or trade him. You don't see the 49ers treat Joe Montana that way, or the Broncos/Elway, or the Dolphins/Marino, or the Bills/Kelly, or the Cowboys/Staubach, Aikman, or.....you get my point.
And those legends treated their teams this way?It goes both ways.
That sort of treatment is just irrational. It would tend to color my perception of the whole situation and give Favre's side of the story a lot more credibility in my book.
I think with his leaks to the media...it has hurt Favre more IMO.Every other day he is considering 2 different things...as if he is floating things out there to gauge a reaction...while the team is staying quiet and not playing the media.
 
If both sides are as stubborn as appears, then the Packers will not release him until it the end of pre-season, and it will probably be too late for any team to take a chance on him, absent an injury.
IF they do in fact do this, this should be a major distraction. The news media will be chanting "Bush league" etc; This would make the Packers more hated than the Patriots and the whole Spygate nonsense.
 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
Yeah sure. :rolleyes: 50 fans protested outside Lambeau while thousands gave the GM and coach standing ovations at the stock holder meeting.
 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
Yeah sure. :rolleyes: 50 fans protested outside Lambeau while thousands gave the GM and coach standing ovations at the stock holder meeting.
Actually I recall quite a few boo's and heckling in between these standing ovations you speak of.
 
Last time I checked a super bowl team wasn't made on week one of the NFL season. So what if they release Favre just before the season starts and he signs with Minnesota? If I were the Packers I would be more concerned about the week 10 game in Minnesota when Favre is taking the Vikings on a play-off run.

Freaking Morons - If I were the Packers I would trade him to the Vikings for something now rather then get nothing for him and still have to see him on weekly highlights anyways.

 
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Heaven forbid the Packers make the almighty Brett Favre be a backup. They are supposed to let him do as he pleases. :rolleyes:

That rumor of them cutting him the day before the season is a rumor and I for one don't believe they will cut him.

As for this mess, this is Favre's fault as far as I'm concerned. Trying to strongarm them into releasing him is the BS in this. The Packer's are not going to just cut him because it's not in the best interests of the team.

I'd like to see them have the stones to make him the 3rd QB and hold the clipboard. :lol:
Yeah, me too because that would be whats best for the team, right?? :rolleyes: BTW- Favre first wanted to come back and play for the Packers. It wasn't until; they took their stance that he asked to be released. As an impartial football fan I look at this situation with curiosity wondering why they (Packers) are so adamant about Rodgers being the starter. Don't most training camps allow players to play for their position? Why would the team anoint Rodgers the starter, especially when he has NEVER started a game? Why not let Favre come into training camp and let them battle for the starting position, that way the packers have the best option out there week 1. it's my opinion the Packers brought this on themselves but stubbornly anointing Rodgers the starter and sticking to this to the point where they are making themselves look bad rather than just letting him come to camp and letting them compete for the starting position. That way the best player wins and the Packers end up with the best option at the starting QB position.

When is Rodgers current contract up?
Yet there are at least rumors that Bus Cook was shopping him back in April.
 
For those interested in the news:

Update 2 August 3, 2008, 12:47 PM ET

GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Brett Favre will be reinstated and added to the Green Bay Packers' active roster Monday.

The NFL announced the move Sunday. Commissioner Roger Goodell had held off on granting Favre's request for reinstatement for nearly a week.

He hoped Favre and the team could resolve their standoff. By reinstating Favre, Goodell is following through on a recent promise to force action.

The reinstatement will become effective at noon on Monday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3517219

 
Reinstated and............... If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :rolleyes:
You realize QB is the most important position in football? You realize that Rodgers could very well be a major bust? You realize he has had two significant injuries as a backup QB? You realize if he gets hurt that you will be forced to play Brohm? I don't know if you realize any of this, I think you just don't get it, you new to football?
Could be a bust...yes...which is why I did not complain about his "at worst" stat.But to claim a team that went 13-3 last season and has a ton of talent has a ceiling of 7-9 is ridiculous.Get it?
 
Heaven forbid the Packers make the almighty Brett Favre be a backup. They are supposed to let him do as he pleases. :rolleyes: That rumor of them cutting him the day before the season is a rumor and I for one don't believe they will cut him. As for this mess, this is Favre's fault as far as I'm concerned. Trying to strongarm them into releasing him is the BS in this. The Packer's are not going to just cut him because it's not in the best interests of the team. I'd like to see them have the stones to make him the 3rd QB and hold the clipboard. :lol:
:rolleyes:
 
Brad Childress and Brett Farve meet for "lunch" at Kinkos.

Now Brett, I am just going to leave this playbook over here on the copier and look around for an hour. Please make sure nothing happens to it until I get back.

 
Reinstated and............... If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :rolleyes:
You realize QB is the most important position in football? You realize that Rodgers could very well be a major bust? You realize he has had two significant injuries as a backup QB? You realize if he gets hurt that you will be forced to play Brohm? I don't know if you realize any of this, I think you just don't get it, you new to football?
Could be a bust...yes...which is why I did not complain about his "at worst" stat.But to claim a team that went 13-3 last season and has a ton of talent has a ceiling of 7-9 is ridiculous.Get it?
happened to chicago just last year, its not that ridiculous.
 
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Somewhere in Hades, the shades of Agamemnon and Achilles are asking themselves why Ted Thompson and Brett Favre can't set their egos aside and find an amicable solution to this situation before things get even more out of control.

 
When the Broncos lost John Elway and went with Brian Griese in '99, they went from being the defending Super Bowl champs who went 17-2 to a 6-10 afterthought, so the Packers could easily fall to 7-9 or worse with Aaron Rodgers at the helm this season, although playing in a somewhat weak division should prevent them from falling too far, should Rodgers not play that well.

 
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Reinstated and............... If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :rolleyes:
You realize QB is the most important position in football? You realize that Rodgers could very well be a major bust? You realize he has had two significant injuries as a backup QB? You realize if he gets hurt that you will be forced to play Brohm? I don't know if you realize any of this, I think you just don't get it, you new to football?
Could be a bust...yes...which is why I did not complain about his "at worst" stat.But to claim a team that went 13-3 last season and has a ton of talent has a ceiling of 7-9 is ridiculous.Get it?
happened to chicago just last year, its not that ridiculous.
Saying it is their ceiling...saying there is no way for them to finish better than 7-9...do you not understand why that is absurd?I don't mind his 5-11 floor (I think the 7-9 is more like the floor for this team)...but saying 7-9 is the best they can finish is crazy.An average Rodgers should get this team 9 wins. Thats just if he is average.
 
An average Rodgers should get this team 9 wins. Thats just if he is average.
An average Brian Griese only got the '99 Broncos 6 wins, and that team was much more talented than the current Packers team. And spare me the "Rodgers is better than Griese" chatter, as we have NO IDEA how good or bad Rodgers is going to be yet.
 
Reinstated and...............

If the Packers let Favre play they will go 12-4 at best, 10-6 at worst.

If the Packers let Rodgers play they will be 7-9 at best, 5-11 at worst.

Favre has to play IMO if he shows up, nothing to think about if you are the Packers brass. If Rodgers leaves after 2009 season they will have Brohm or Flynn ready after 2 years of sitting on the bench.
7-9 at best?Please. :mellow:
You realize QB is the most important position in football? You realize that Rodgers could very well be a major bust? You realize he has had two significant injuries as a backup QB? You realize if he gets hurt that you will be forced to play Brohm? I don't know if you realize any of this, I think you just don't get it, you new to football?
Could be a bust...yes...which is why I did not complain about his "at worst" stat.But to claim a team that went 13-3 last season and has a ton of talent has a ceiling of 7-9 is ridiculous.

Get it?
happened to chicago just last year, its not that ridiculous.
Saying it is their ceiling...saying there is no way for them to finish better than 7-9...do you not understand why that is absurd?I don't mind his 5-11 floor (I think the 7-9 is more like the floor for this team)...but saying 7-9 is the best they can finish is crazy.

An average Rodgers should get this team 9 wins. Thats just if he is average.
he obviously doesnt think rogers is going to be average, not that hard to get.
 
They're still going to end up trading him. I don't think he'll see the Packers' practice field at all.Doesn't make any sense for Goodell to go ahead and reinstate him today and not wait until tomorrow (as he said he was going to do yesterday) if they hadn't informed him that they have come to terms with somebody. This all appears strictly procedural to me, and will probably announce the trade tomorrow.
I agree with Andy. Rodgers has already looked less than stellar in camp. If they're truly committed to going with this guy, they need to get the proverbial monkey off his back ASAP.
 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
What a way for a legend to act. And by the way he is not a legend and doesn't even come close to making the top 3 when it comes to the GB Packers.
 
When the Broncos lost John Elway and went with Brian Griese in '99, they went from being the defending Super Bowl champs who went 17-2 to a 6-10 afterthought, so the Packers could easily fall to 7-9 or worse with Aaron Rodgers at the helm this season, although playing in a somewhat weak division should prevent them from falling too far, should Rodgers not play that well.
:mellow: Elway = legendFavre = legendGriese = garbageRodgers = better than 50% chance of being garbage
 
Heaven forbid the Packers make the almighty Brett Favre be a backup. They are supposed to let him do as he pleases. :mellow: That rumor of them cutting him the day before the season is a rumor and I for one don't believe they will cut him. As for this mess, this is Favre's fault as far as I'm concerned. Trying to strongarm them into releasing him is the BS in this. The Packer's are not going to just cut him because it's not in the best interests of the team. I'd like to see them have the stones to make him the 3rd QB and hold the clipboard. :bow:
How is in the best interests of the team to keep him. If they really think Rodgers is the better QB, then why spend $12M on a back-up QB? Particularly when that back-up QB will be the focus every week - with every loss, interception, and errant pass - everyone will be wondering the same thing - when is favre coming in. You'll fracture the locker-room, and ultimately undo any momentum this team built last season.There is no chance Favre remains the back-up for the Packers this season.Why not cut him - if he can't beat out Aaron Rodgers - how many teams really want to pick up Aaron Rodgers backup?
 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
What a way for a legend to act. And by the way he is not a legend and doesn't even come close to making the top 3 when it comes to the GB Packers.
I seen a roundtable of HOF legends talking, the question was posed "Who is a bigger legend, Lombardi or Favre", all 5 said Favre.But what the heck, they are just HOF NFL players, they are not the almighty Phurfur, message board poster at FBG!!!
 
Let's say that Favre is released the day before the season starts. That's Wednesday, September 3. The Vikings play the Packers on Monday, September 8. Is that enough time for Favre to be ready enough to start for the Vikings in that game? I'm not sure I see the significance of releasing him the day before the season starts. Why not wait until September 9? That way, you know he won't make it to burn you that season opening game.
I believe he gets a big bonus if he's on the roster opening day.
 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
What a way for a legend to act. And by the way he is not a legend and doesn't even come close to making the top 3 when it comes to the GB Packers.
I seen a roundtable of HOF legends talking, the question was posed "Who is a bigger legend, Lombardi or Favre", all 5 said Favre.But what the heck, they are just HOF NFL players, they are not the almighty Phurfur, message board poster at FBG!!!
Don't be foolish, of course players are going to vote for players and they probably don't know crap about the history of the GB Packers.LambeauLomardiStarrFavre can't touch any of them. GB has won 12 championships and Favre has won only 1 in 16 years. That may be a legend in your mind but it isn't in GB.
 
More information:

Update 3

Speculation media deal still a possibility ... and this nugget:

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The team is fully prepared to take Favre back. It has been saving a room for him at St. Norbert's College and has a plan to integrate him back into practice. Favre will have to take a physical and a conditioning test Monday before being put on the roster. The Packers will have to cut someone to make room for him.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/
 
And how many of those guys went out like Favre (retire and unretire)? And what about how he's treating the team? He's fought most of this battle in the media and in the spotlight - why is he not to blame for a good chunk?
My opinion is he deserves a ton of blame for this. Both sides do. This has been a joke for a long time and both sides have contributed significantly to the embarrassment. But now that Favre has been reinstated I believe he should be allowed to compete for the starting job. I view that as a win-win for the Packers. If Rodgers can beat out Favre, that means he's pretty damn good and the Packers will be better off as a result. If Favre regains the job, then the Packers have avoided putting arguably the most important position on the field in the hands of an inferior player when a better option was available. The Packer fans would also be winners because either way, the team has a better chance for success. As Michael Scott would say, this is a great example of the "Win-Win-Win" strategy of negotiations.
:mellow: And if the Packers limit him in practice and then release him right before the season starts, their franchise is a joke. Considering all of the success they have had since Favre got there, he deserves better than that.
If they decide they are not going to let him compete...why does that make them a joke?That makes them smart not letting him go prepare with the Vikings...their major competition who they happen to play on Monday night opening weekend.
Correct, if the Vikings want him let them trade for him. If they are willing to wait, who cares.If the Vikings sign him after he is released it can't help their tampering charges.
 
John Clayton is reporting Favre has REJECTED THE 25 MILLION dollar buyout and wants to play football.

 
I honestly don't understand all of the Packers/TT hate in here. While the bribe was pretty stupid, Favre has put the organization in an absolute no-wi situation.

For those saying "trade him": TO WHO!? No team with a solid QB is going to pay what Favre is worth. Favre won't accept a trade except to a contender, and how many contenders lack a solid QB? Only one, and everyone involved knows it, the Vikings....the one team the organiozation can't afford to trade him to.

For those in the play him camp: Even if Favre performs better then Rogers (a fair assumption), it still might set them back years as they very well could lose Rogers over this, not to mention the wasted pick in this years draft.

For those saying release him (now): We all know he'd be in Minnesotta by the end of the day. This is obviously un-acceptable for a team who believes they are a contender since it obviously provides their biggest rival a significant upgrade at QB.

What's left?

Shame on all of you who are calling out the Packers for how "they are treating a legend". They paid that legend MANY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE LAST 18 years. That legend was happy to sign long term for big money, essentially promising to never play elsewhere. That legend insisted he was retired 7 months ago when the Packers practically begged him to return, before they committed elsewhere. And it's that legend who's pooping all over the organization by refusing to accept legitimate trade offers now.

If Favre wants to play this badly, he should be grateful for any trade that keeps his current contract good. He should accept the Jets.

If I were TT, I would bench his ###, and release him mid-season after all of this. Why? Because I'm screwed anyway, so I might as well screw the guy back.

I once loved Brett Favre....not anymore.

 
What a way to treat the legend. This will be a brutal move for the Packers for PR reasons and Brett will really come back to haunt them than. Nothing like a man who is pissed. Just think of all the games where Brett faces adversity and comes up huge. He could be MVP with such a scenario and Vikings pay nothing for him. There team is good enough without him to keep things warm till he is ready to go. Say week 5 and watch out.
What a way for a legend to act. And by the way he is not a legend and doesn't even come close to making the top 3 when it comes to the GB Packers.
I seen a roundtable of HOF legends talking, the question was posed "Who is a bigger legend, Lombardi or Favre", all 5 said Favre.But what the heck, they are just HOF NFL players, they are not the almighty Phurfur, message board poster at FBG!!!
Don't be foolish, of course players are going to vote for players and they probably don't know crap about the history of the GB Packers.LambeauLomardiStarrFavre can't touch any of them. GB has won 12 championships and Favre has won only 1 in 16 years. That may be a legend in your mind but it isn't in GB.
So you know more about football than HOF players? Cool, I see why you like fantasy. :unsure:
 
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