Farve to Report this Weekend (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

How much more experienced have they become since then? One game more experienced. They are a few months older, and without their Vet QB. Add this to the pile of points you failed to defend at all.

The point, that I have defended and you have failed to prove...is that your little articles don't claim they were the least experienced team in the league.Thanks for playing.

They are the most inexperienced team in the league.

And again...I ask you for a link to back up what I believe to be a completely BS statement.

 

[GreenNGold]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Ignorance knows no bounds. Do teams often can the reigning Executive of the Year?

About as often as teams can their pro-bowl, MVP runner-up QB?

 

[sho nuff]

Yeah, you can say that. Meanwhile, you are refusing to look at facts because it would mean taking a good hard look at how your franchise is handling this, and no sane person could take the position that you have. Think logically. What doesn't make sense about what Favre's camp has leaked? Murphy is coming to them. Favre is being stalled out of camp. The proof lies with Favre, as it did before when he claimed TT was scared for his job the first time he said he was coming to camp.Now he's called their bluff, and they are pulling out all the stops. Think.

You rarely present facts.Just posting what Favre has said about something is not "facts".I have looked at the facts...I have done my best to stick with the facts rather than just rumor and speculation. For some reason, that bothers you so much.No sane person? So I guess what looks to be a majority of the Packers fans, plus their executive committee are sane? Because they echo my thoughts on how the franchise is handling this.The only thing stating that Favre is being stalled out of camp is Favre...for some reason, you now take every word of his as gospel.When he claimed TT was scared for his job...that is not a fact either...again, that is Favre's words. TT seemed to think that conversation went differently and that he feared for his job if he released Favre.As for all this called their bluff line...IMO...they are not bluffing. They know they have a little bit of a better hand than Favre and are willing to play it to the end.

This is the same TT who recanted on which position Favre would be offered when they welcomed him back with open arms to camp, yes? Backup to unsure to backup?

This is the same Favre who retired...then wanted to unretire...then stayed retired...then confirmed he was staying retired on more than one occaision...then denied the rumors were true.....But now you want to believe him because it suits your opinion?Im not telling you that he is lying...Im telling you that none of us know which one is telling the truth.

 

[Franknbeans]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

 

[sho nuff]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Ignorance knows no bounds. Do teams often can the reigning Executive of the Year?

About as often as teams can their pro-bowl, MVP runner-up QB?

They did not can him. He retired.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday night sent team president and CEO Mark Murphy on a private plane to visit Brett Favre in Mississippi in an attempt to persuade the quarterback to stay home rather than report to training camp this week.

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A source told the Press-Gazette that Murphy will meet Wednesday morning with Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss.

“They’re asking him not to come up there,” the source said. “They don’t want him up there.”

Favre faxed the NFL on Tuesday requesting reinstatement, and an NFL spokesman said Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t act on the request until Wednesday. Goodell apparently wanted to give the sides another day to come to some sort of agreement before reinstating Favre.

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If Favre eventually takes the Packers’ practice field, McCarthy will determine his role in workouts. He and Thompson have made clear Rodgers is their starter and will get the majority of snaps at practice, so iRodgers’ workload won’t lessen. Favre perhaps could push rookies Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to Nos. 3 and 4 on the depth chart, but the Packers also could keep Favre from getting many, if any, snaps.

Because Favre missed the start of camp, McCarthy might limit him to individual and small-group drills for a day or two. But if Favre isn’t traded or released quickly, McCarthy will have to decide how many snaps to give him in each drill behind Rodgers.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...1/80729136/1978

The Packers are extremely desperate. If they sent Murphy down to plead with Favre to not come after TT begged him to stay home this weekend, Favre can only be so far away from getting the release he wants. They really must want to avoid having him at camp.

It's evident that this source is from the Favre camp, (again) by the use of the words "come up there". So of course it's going to have a spin towards Favre's favor. And once again, every conversation by Favre with the Packers is taken straight to the media by Favre with his spin on it. Can't wait for his press-conference on Wednesday night/Thursday how he tells us that Murphy offered him the Packer's presidency.Not sure how this shows they are desperate. To me it shows that they are willing to have an open dialogue and come up with a reasonable solution to satisfy both parties. The Packers have been seeking a trade for Favre and Favre has refused to speak to any interested parties. Favre will not accept anything other than his outright release, which would just be stupid on the Packer's part.

Uhm. The Packers have tried to get Favre to stay retired since this started. Now, ever since he's threatened to come to camp, they haven't welcomed him there. At all. They have asked him for more time. If that isn't desperation, and a sure sign that they don't really want him to be there, then I don't know what they are waiting for. If it's no big deal then why fly Murphy to Mississippi? Favre's gotta come up to Green Bay anyway, right?

You are again taking only what Favre has said about them asking him not to be there. Again...the other side to that is that Thompson states that it was Favre's idea to hold off.And right now, its still in Goodell's hand until he approves the reinstatement.

We don't know for sure why Murphy went there. That is kind of the point.

But you speculate on one source...because it fits with your beliefs...pretty much what you have been doing this entire time with this situation.

What does Favre gain by being untruthful about the situation? If Favre was welcome with open arms he would be in Green Bay already. The Packers don't want Favre to play in Green Bay or anywhere else. I have been saying for 3 years that I thought Favre should retire. But if he wants to play.....he should play.....the thing that I don't get most of all is.....Favre will give the Pack the best chance to win....and it's not close

What does he have to gain? Any bit of public opinion on it?Why else is Favre going to the media airing out conversations he had with Thompson? Why else is he out there basically calling Thompson a liar? He obviously has something to gain from taking things to the media.

I have not said Favre is lying...I have said that he is saying one thing...Thompson is saying another. None of us know exactly what the truth is.

But its obvious that people like Scotty who want to believe the worst about the Packers...will believe whatever looks worst for the Packers...no matter who else denies it.

He would not be in GB just yet...Goodell has not approved his reinstatement...

And I agree he gives them the best chance to win this year...but that is not the only point that must be considered by Thompson and the organization.

Public opinion, is that who's going to decide whether or not he can compete for the starting job in Green Bay? Answer your own questions, what does Favre gain? You posit that the media circus couldn't get any worse in Green Bay, so what does Green Bay lose and Favre gain by lying to the press? I know you're not saying he's lying, you're just letting us know that there is the possibility that he is lying.

I don't have to believe the worst, I am discussing what we all know, that's bad enough. If Murphy is coming down to talk Favre into accepting a trade, and Favre has refused this far, how likely is it that they are really willing to let Favre come on as a $12 million dollar backup? If it's that easy to stuff him, why all the asking of him to stay away from camp?

 

[ookook]

Sho, for the most part you are the one without evidence on lots of this. You just say "that does not PROVE anything". Like Favre saying it is not proof. Yes, but is evidence and you often have little.

Right now, there are multiple sources saying that Murphy is in Mississippi.

Is pretty clear why he is there and no one has offered any alternative.

Everything they have done is to prevent Favre from coming to GB this season. Eveything they have told him (and yes, his report of what they tell him counts for a lot). Yet they have often said the opposite to the media (TT and McCarthy alluding that he would be "welcome" and such nonsense).

I think the following are true. Please offer evidence they are NOT:

(a) Favre wanted to play for GB this season

(b) They told him it was not an option and did about everything they could to prevent it.

The irony is that they just will not face up to it and keep lying. And lying.

"Taking the high road" my fat ####.

 

[ScottyFargo]

How much more experienced have they become since then? One game more experienced. They are a few months older, and without their Vet QB. Add this to the pile of points you failed to defend at all.

The point, that I have defended and you have failed to prove...is that your little articles don't claim they were the least experienced team in the league.Thanks for playing.

They are the most inexperienced team in the league.

And again...I ask you for a link to back up what I believe to be a completely BS statement.

If they are the youngest team in the NFL, then they clearly have the least number of games under their belt. Lack of games means lack of experience. I am only reiterating what Packer fans already believe.

 

[sho nuff]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

Because Rodgers has yet to show he is a whiner.His get on board comment was out of frustration and dumb to say for sure.But Rodgers has handled this better than I could possibly have imagined he would have.

 

[ookook]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.

That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre.

Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

 

[GreenNGold]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Ignorance knows no bounds. Do teams often can the reigning Executive of the Year?

About as often as teams can their pro-bowl, MVP runner-up QB?

They did not can him. He retired.

Oh please.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

Because Rodgers has yet to show he is a whiner.His get on board comment was out of frustration and dumb to say for sure.But Rodgers has handled this better than I could possibly have imagined he would have.

I'll give you that. That comment aside he has shown himself to be above all the noise so far, which I have found impressive because it's been loud.

 

[Chachi]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Me against the world?Tell that to the executive committee who controls his job and has supported him this entire time.

Tell that to the stockholders who vote for the executive committee who mostly supported Thompson at the meeting last week.

Seems your opinion is the one that is in the minority here.

164-25 in favor of firing ThompsonYeah, I'm in the minority all right.

LOL

 

[sho nuff]

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

Much of that dislike seems to be Favre's issue with how Thompson runs the team.And no...he should not just be given anything just because he wants to play.He does not just want to play either...as he is refusing to give the Packers a list of teams he would approve of being traded to and refused to talk to any of the teams GB has mentioned.So far, he is going about it in a way that many see through and is hurting his reputation far more than it is really hurting the franchise.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

I think that they would not want him working with the team at all, and they don't want to get into trouble with the NFLPA for essentially locking him out of practicing. Honestly, I do not know why they didn't plan on this when all of this happened. They must have really been counting on a trade or his re-retirement.

 

[Darker Knight]

Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday night sent team president and CEO Mark Murphy on a private plane to visit Brett Favre in Mississippi in an attempt to persuade the quarterback to stay home rather than report to training camp this week.

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A source told the Press-Gazette that Murphy will meet Wednesday morning with Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss.

“They’re asking him not to come up there,” the source said. “They don’t want him up there.”

Favre faxed the NFL on Tuesday requesting reinstatement, and an NFL spokesman said Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t act on the request until Wednesday. Goodell apparently wanted to give the sides another day to come to some sort of agreement before reinstating Favre.

...

If Favre eventually takes the Packers’ practice field, McCarthy will determine his role in workouts. He and Thompson have made clear Rodgers is their starter and will get the majority of snaps at practice, so iRodgers’ workload won’t lessen. Favre perhaps could push rookies Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to Nos. 3 and 4 on the depth chart, but the Packers also could keep Favre from getting many, if any, snaps.

Because Favre missed the start of camp, McCarthy might limit him to individual and small-group drills for a day or two. But if Favre isn’t traded or released quickly, McCarthy will have to decide how many snaps to give him in each drill behind Rodgers.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...1/80729136/1978

The Packers are extremely desperate. If they sent Murphy down to plead with Favre to not come after TT begged him to stay home this weekend, Favre can only be so far away from getting the release he wants. They really must want to avoid having him at camp.

It's evident that this source is from the Favre camp, (again) by the use of the words "come up there". So of course it's going to have a spin towards Favre's favor. And once again, every conversation by Favre with the Packers is taken straight to the media by Favre with his spin on it. Can't wait for his press-conference on Wednesday night/Thursday how he tells us that Murphy offered him the Packer's presidency.Not sure how this shows they are desperate. To me it shows that they are willing to have an open dialogue and come up with a reasonable solution to satisfy both parties. The Packers have been seeking a trade for Favre and Favre has refused to speak to any interested parties. Favre will not accept anything other than his outright release, which would just be stupid on the Packer's part.

Uhm. The Packers have tried to get Favre to stay retired since this started. Now, ever since he's threatened to come to camp, they haven't welcomed him there. At all. They have asked him for more time. If that isn't desperation, and a sure sign that they don't really want him to be there, then I don't know what they are waiting for. If it's no big deal then why fly Murphy to Mississippi? Favre's gotta come up to Green Bay anyway, right?

You are again taking only what Favre has said about them asking him not to be there. Again...the other side to that is that Thompson states that it was Favre's idea to hold off.And right now, its still in Goodell's hand until he approves the reinstatement.

We don't know for sure why Murphy went there. That is kind of the point.

But you speculate on one source...because it fits with your beliefs...pretty much what you have been doing this entire time with this situation.

What does Favre gain by being untruthful about the situation? If Favre was welcome with open arms he would be in Green Bay already. The Packers don't want Favre to play in Green Bay or anywhere else. I have been saying for 3 years that I thought Favre should retire. But if he wants to play.....he should play.....the thing that I don't get most of all is.....Favre will give the Pack the best chance to win....and it's not close

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.

And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.

Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Me against the world?Tell that to the executive committee who controls his job and has supported him this entire time.

Tell that to the stockholders who vote for the executive committee who mostly supported Thompson at the meeting last week.

Seems your opinion is the one that is in the minority here.

164-25 in favor of firing ThompsonYeah, I'm in the minority all right.

LOL

Super. Go support his firing then. But don't come back crying when the next Mike Sherman comes on board and ruins the damn team. Perhaps we can sign some more Cletidus Hunts to long term deals.

 

[Chachi]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

Because Rodgers has yet to show he is a whiner.His get on board comment was out of frustration and dumb to say for sure.But Rodgers has handled this better than I could possibly have imagined he would have.

He is following a script, nothing more. When Michael Vick comes back and answers all the questions right, I'll dish out some credit, that might actually take some cajones to stand up there and listen to the questions. How hard is it really when you hear in the media "Oh, that poor Aaron Rodgers, this is so unfair" all the time. What he's doing is acting and it's a script he didn't even write, ok, he's a good actor. Now when Vick stands up there and people start thinking this guy has changed and deserves a chance, that will really be something. He has had 2 major injuries in a backup role already, man of steel. When he goes out for the season in week 2 I guess people will turn on him once again. Even if he's healthy I seen enough of him at Cal and was not surprised his stock fell during the draft, this guy has bust written all over him. When he does get hurt in week 2 and Brohm comes in and stinks it up you can bet the three most common words in Green Bay will be "Fire Ted Thompson".

 

[sho nuff]

Public opinion, is that who's going to decide whether or not he can compete for the starting job in Green Bay? Answer your own questions, what does Favre gain? You posit that the media circus couldn't get any worse in Green Bay, so what does Green Bay lose and Favre gain by lying to the press? I know you're not saying he's lying, you're just letting us know that there is the possibility that he is lying. I don't have to believe the worst, I am discussing what we all know, that's bad enough. If Murphy is coming down to talk Favre into accepting a trade, and Favre has refused this far, how likely is it that they are really willing to let Favre come on as a $12 million dollar backup? If it's that easy to stuff him, why all the asking of him to stay away from camp?

Public opinion is what, IMO, he hopes sways Thompson into releasing him.That is what Favre is trying to gain IMO.I post that the media circus is going to be there no matter what happens to this.Every single Rodgers pass is going to be dissected no matter where Favre is.Im letting you know the possibility that neither side is being completely truthful...something you don't seem to be able to fathom.You are discussing what you believe to be true.I think if Favre continues to try and play hardball he will be coming in as a backup. He better be willing to take this thing all the way...as I don't see Thompson backing down on this. Thompson knows that about the only thing that would put his job in jeopardy is letting Favre walk and go to Minny.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Ignorance knows no bounds. Do teams often can the reigning Executive of the Year?

About as often as teams can their pro-bowl, MVP runner-up QB?

They did not can him. He retired.

Oh please.

What's so hard to understand here? Favre does not want to play in Green Bay. If he did, he wouldn't be acting like such a jag in the media. If you want to stay employed, it's generally not a good idea to call your boss a liar in the national media and question how he does his job.If I hear one more word from Favre about personnel decisions from four years ago I'm going to vomit.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

Much of that dislike seems to be Favre's issue with how Thompson runs the team.And no...he should not just be given anything just because he wants to play.He does not just want to play either...as he is refusing to give the Packers a list of teams he would approve of being traded to and refused to talk to any of the teams GB has mentioned.So far, he is going about it in a way that many see through and is hurting his reputation far more than it is really hurting the franchise.

Well, he SHOULD be given his spot on the team since he is UNDER CONTRACT. And if he isn't asking to be traded and we know the Packers cannot release him, then perhaps he is comfortable being the best backup QB in the NFL? If that is the case, Packers should welcome him back with open arms, yes? Hugs and kisses?

 

[CHUD]

The NFL network said it best last night. The NFL is designed to allow the best player to play. That's why they have a pre-season, mini-camps, and so on. They are used to weed out the weak and keep the strong. I think they are keeping Favre away because they know he can compete. I think the decision they need to make is do you go with a proven technically unstructured QB in Favre or with a the more structured yet unproven Rodgers.

 

[sho nuff]

Sho, for the most part you are the one without evidence on lots of this. You just say "that does not PROVE anything". Like Favre saying it is not proof. Yes, but is evidence and you often have little.

Umm...I have what Thompson is saying as proof that it may not be just the way Favre has said it.

Right now, there are multiple sources saying that Murphy is in Mississippi. Is pretty clear why he is there and no one has offered any alternative.

I have not denied he is in MS.I have stated that so far we do not know for sure why he is there. He could be trying to discuss a possible trade. He could be sent there to tell Favre again that they will not be releasing him and what their final terms are...and that if Favre does not accept the offers to the teams GB listed that Murphy will then give him his options as far as returning and coming to camp.

Everything they have done is to prevent Favre from coming to GB this season. Eveything they have told him (and yes, his report of what they tell him counts for a lot). Yet they have often said the opposite to the media (TT and McCarthy alluding that he would be "welcome" and such nonsense).I think the following are true. Please offer evidence they are NOT:(a) Favre wanted to play for GB this season(b) They told him it was not an option and did about everything they could to prevent it.The irony is that they just will not face up to it and keep lying. And lying. "Taking the high road" my fat ####.

a) I agree he wanted to...but also think he had it in the back of his mind that he also would not mind playing for Minny. The supposed talks went all the way back to April that Cook may seek a trade.b) They told him after all of this that they have moved on and Rodgers was the starter and that is how it would remain.c) Taking the high road comes from not just running the media every time and calling him a liar as he has basically done with them.d) You can keep claiming they just keep lying...but you only have Favre's word to go on at this point.

 

[Phurfur]

Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday night sent team president and CEO Mark Murphy on a private plane to visit Brett Favre in Mississippi in an attempt to persuade the quarterback to stay home rather than report to training camp this week.

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A source told the Press-Gazette that Murphy will meet Wednesday morning with Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss.

“They’re asking him not to come up there,” the source said. “They don’t want him up there.”

Favre faxed the NFL on Tuesday requesting reinstatement, and an NFL spokesman said Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t act on the request until Wednesday. Goodell apparently wanted to give the sides another day to come to some sort of agreement before reinstating Favre.

...

If Favre eventually takes the Packers’ practice field, McCarthy will determine his role in workouts. He and Thompson have made clear Rodgers is their starter and will get the majority of snaps at practice, so iRodgers’ workload won’t lessen. Favre perhaps could push rookies Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to Nos. 3 and 4 on the depth chart, but the Packers also could keep Favre from getting many, if any, snaps.

Because Favre missed the start of camp, McCarthy might limit him to individual and small-group drills for a day or two. But if Favre isn’t traded or released quickly, McCarthy will have to decide how many snaps to give him in each drill behind Rodgers.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...1/80729136/1978

The Packers are extremely desperate. If they sent Murphy down to plead with Favre to not come after TT begged him to stay home this weekend, Favre can only be so far away from getting the release he wants. They really must want to avoid having him at camp.

It's evident that this source is from the Favre camp, (again) by the use of the words "come up there". So of course it's going to have a spin towards Favre's favor. And once again, every conversation by Favre with the Packers is taken straight to the media by Favre with his spin on it. Can't wait for his press-conference on Wednesday night/Thursday how he tells us that Murphy offered him the Packer's presidency.Not sure how this shows they are desperate. To me it shows that they are willing to have an open dialogue and come up with a reasonable solution to satisfy both parties. The Packers have been seeking a trade for Favre and Favre has refused to speak to any interested parties. Favre will not accept anything other than his outright release, which would just be stupid on the Packer's part.

Uhm. The Packers have tried to get Favre to stay retired since this started. Now, ever since he's threatened to come to camp, they haven't welcomed him there. At all. They have asked him for more time. If that isn't desperation, and a sure sign that they don't really want him to be there, then I don't know what they are waiting for. If it's no big deal then why fly Murphy to Mississippi? Favre's gotta come up to Green Bay anyway, right?

You are again taking only what Favre has said about them asking him not to be there. Again...the other side to that is that Thompson states that it was Favre's idea to hold off.And right now, its still in Goodell's hand until he approves the reinstatement.

We don't know for sure why Murphy went there. That is kind of the point.

But you speculate on one source...because it fits with your beliefs...pretty much what you have been doing this entire time with this situation.

What does Favre gain by being untruthful about the situation? If Favre was welcome with open arms he would be in Green Bay already. The Packers don't want Favre to play in Green Bay or anywhere else. I have been saying for 3 years that I thought Favre should retire. But if he wants to play.....he should play.....the thing that I don't get most of all is.....Favre will give the Pack the best chance to win....and it's not close

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.

And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.

Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

 

[sho nuff]

How much more experienced have they become since then? One game more experienced. They are a few months older, and without their Vet QB. Add this to the pile of points you failed to defend at all.

The point, that I have defended and you have failed to prove...is that your little articles don't claim they were the least experienced team in the league.Thanks for playing.

They are the most inexperienced team in the league.

And again...I ask you for a link to back up what I believe to be a completely BS statement.

If they are the youngest team in the NFL, then they clearly have the least number of games under their belt. Lack of games means lack of experience. I am only reiterating what Packer fans already believe.

A. Im not even sure they were for sure the youngest team the entire year last year.B. No...if they are the youngest overall team...that does not mean they have the least number of games under their belt. By virtue of their younger guys gaining reps by actually playing quite a bit...while other young teams may have their backups being the youth that rarely have played. Those teams...while technically older...can easily be more inexperienced at the time.C. I have no clue if they are the youngest team in the league right now as it is.You are basically spinning around as much as you can because you made a foolish statement that you simply cannot backup with any substance.

 

[ScottyFargo]

If Favre is lying, they sure seem less concerned about that than they do him coming to camp.

 

[sho nuff]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

 

[ScottyFargo]

How much more experienced have they become since then? One game more experienced. They are a few months older, and without their Vet QB. Add this to the pile of points you failed to defend at all.

The point, that I have defended and you have failed to prove...is that your little articles don't claim they were the least experienced team in the league.Thanks for playing.

They are the most inexperienced team in the league.

And again...I ask you for a link to back up what I believe to be a completely BS statement.

If they are the youngest team in the NFL, then they clearly have the least number of games under their belt. Lack of games means lack of experience. I am only reiterating what Packer fans already believe.

A. Im not even sure they were for sure the youngest team the entire year last year.B. No...if they are the youngest overall team...that does not mean they have the least number of games under their belt. By virtue of their younger guys gaining reps by actually playing quite a bit...while other young teams may have their backups being the youth that rarely have played. Those teams...while technically older...can easily be more inexperienced at the time.C. I have no clue if they are the youngest team in the league right now as it is.You are basically spinning around as much as you can because you made a foolish statement that you simply cannot backup with any substance.

Hey, whatever. Packers loved to tout them as the youngest team in the NFL, I don't see that as being a totally positive thing because that means they are inexperienced. And now they are even younger without the dinosaur QB they had handling everything on the field for them. But I am sure they'll all grow up real fast right along with Rodgers.

 

[sho nuff]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Ignorance knows no bounds. Do teams often can the reigning Executive of the Year?

About as often as teams can their pro-bowl, MVP runner-up QB?

They did not can him. He retired.

Oh please.

Facts bother you?

 

[Chachi]

Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday night sent team president and CEO Mark Murphy on a private plane to visit Brett Favre in Mississippi in an attempt to persuade the quarterback to stay home rather than report to training camp this week.

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A source told the Press-Gazette that Murphy will meet Wednesday morning with Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss.

“They’re asking him not to come up there,” the source said. “They don’t want him up there.”

Favre faxed the NFL on Tuesday requesting reinstatement, and an NFL spokesman said Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t act on the request until Wednesday. Goodell apparently wanted to give the sides another day to come to some sort of agreement before reinstating Favre.

...

If Favre eventually takes the Packers’ practice field, McCarthy will determine his role in workouts. He and Thompson have made clear Rodgers is their starter and will get the majority of snaps at practice, so iRodgers’ workload won’t lessen. Favre perhaps could push rookies Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to Nos. 3 and 4 on the depth chart, but the Packers also could keep Favre from getting many, if any, snaps.

Because Favre missed the start of camp, McCarthy might limit him to individual and small-group drills for a day or two. But if Favre isn’t traded or released quickly, McCarthy will have to decide how many snaps to give him in each drill behind Rodgers.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...1/80729136/1978

The Packers are extremely desperate. If they sent Murphy down to plead with Favre to not come after TT begged him to stay home this weekend, Favre can only be so far away from getting the release he wants. They really must want to avoid having him at camp.

It's evident that this source is from the Favre camp, (again) by the use of the words "come up there". So of course it's going to have a spin towards Favre's favor. And once again, every conversation by Favre with the Packers is taken straight to the media by Favre with his spin on it. Can't wait for his press-conference on Wednesday night/Thursday how he tells us that Murphy offered him the Packer's presidency.Not sure how this shows they are desperate. To me it shows that they are willing to have an open dialogue and come up with a reasonable solution to satisfy both parties. The Packers have been seeking a trade for Favre and Favre has refused to speak to any interested parties. Favre will not accept anything other than his outright release, which would just be stupid on the Packer's part.

Uhm. The Packers have tried to get Favre to stay retired since this started. Now, ever since he's threatened to come to camp, they haven't welcomed him there. At all. They have asked him for more time. If that isn't desperation, and a sure sign that they don't really want him to be there, then I don't know what they are waiting for. If it's no big deal then why fly Murphy to Mississippi? Favre's gotta come up to Green Bay anyway, right?

You are again taking only what Favre has said about them asking him not to be there. Again...the other side to that is that Thompson states that it was Favre's idea to hold off.And right now, its still in Goodell's hand until he approves the reinstatement.

We don't know for sure why Murphy went there. That is kind of the point.

But you speculate on one source...because it fits with your beliefs...pretty much what you have been doing this entire time with this situation.

What does Favre gain by being untruthful about the situation? If Favre was welcome with open arms he would be in Green Bay already. The Packers don't want Favre to play in Green Bay or anywhere else. I have been saying for 3 years that I thought Favre should retire. But if he wants to play.....he should play.....the thing that I don't get most of all is.....Favre will give the Pack the best chance to win....and it's not close

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.

And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.

Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

Send him to Minnesota and we'll see about that, and we'll see who wins the NFC North. I'll take whatever team Favre is leading over Rodgers or Tavaris.

 

[gruecd]

I don't care what TT has said. I predict that either today or tomorrow, Brett is either released or traded to Minnesota. It's hard enough for Rodgers to replace a legend, not to mention having that very legend breathing down his neck. The Packers want no part of this. Nobody else is going to pay Brett $12 million this year, and Brett won't restructure his contract to accommodate anyone besides the Vikes. Murphy comes back from Mississippi and tells Ted, "We've got no choice. Make it happen."

They can say all they want that there won't be a competition, but if Brett comes to camp and it's totally apparent to everyone that he's still the better QB, there's no way in hell that the Pack can get away with not playing him. I just can't see the Packers allowing this scenario to unfold.

Just my two cents....

 

[GreenNGold]

Murphy heads south, asking Favre to stay home

The Green Bay Packers on Tuesday night sent team president and CEO Mark Murphy on a private plane to visit Brett Favre in Mississippi in an attempt to persuade the quarterback to stay home rather than report to training camp this week.

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A source told the Press-Gazette that Murphy will meet Wednesday morning with Favre and his agent, Bus Cook, at Cook’s law office in Hattiesburg, Miss.

“They’re asking him not to come up there,” the source said. “They don’t want him up there.”

Favre faxed the NFL on Tuesday requesting reinstatement, and an NFL spokesman said Commissioner Roger Goodell won’t act on the request until Wednesday. Goodell apparently wanted to give the sides another day to come to some sort of agreement before reinstating Favre.

...

If Favre eventually takes the Packers’ practice field, McCarthy will determine his role in workouts. He and Thompson have made clear Rodgers is their starter and will get the majority of snaps at practice, so iRodgers’ workload won’t lessen. Favre perhaps could push rookies Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn to Nos. 3 and 4 on the depth chart, but the Packers also could keep Favre from getting many, if any, snaps.

Because Favre missed the start of camp, McCarthy might limit him to individual and small-group drills for a day or two. But if Favre isn’t traded or released quickly, McCarthy will have to decide how many snaps to give him in each drill behind Rodgers.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p...1/80729136/1978

The Packers are extremely desperate. If they sent Murphy down to plead with Favre to not come after TT begged him to stay home this weekend, Favre can only be so far away from getting the release he wants. They really must want to avoid having him at camp.

It's evident that this source is from the Favre camp, (again) by the use of the words "come up there". So of course it's going to have a spin towards Favre's favor. And once again, every conversation by Favre with the Packers is taken straight to the media by Favre with his spin on it. Can't wait for his press-conference on Wednesday night/Thursday how he tells us that Murphy offered him the Packer's presidency.Not sure how this shows they are desperate. To me it shows that they are willing to have an open dialogue and come up with a reasonable solution to satisfy both parties. The Packers have been seeking a trade for Favre and Favre has refused to speak to any interested parties. Favre will not accept anything other than his outright release, which would just be stupid on the Packer's part.

Uhm. The Packers have tried to get Favre to stay retired since this started. Now, ever since he's threatened to come to camp, they haven't welcomed him there. At all. They have asked him for more time. If that isn't desperation, and a sure sign that they don't really want him to be there, then I don't know what they are waiting for. If it's no big deal then why fly Murphy to Mississippi? Favre's gotta come up to Green Bay anyway, right?

You are again taking only what Favre has said about them asking him not to be there. Again...the other side to that is that Thompson states that it was Favre's idea to hold off.And right now, its still in Goodell's hand until he approves the reinstatement.

We don't know for sure why Murphy went there. That is kind of the point.

But you speculate on one source...because it fits with your beliefs...pretty much what you have been doing this entire time with this situation.

What does Favre gain by being untruthful about the situation? If Favre was welcome with open arms he would be in Green Bay already. The Packers don't want Favre to play in Green Bay or anywhere else. I have been saying for 3 years that I thought Favre should retire. But if he wants to play.....he should play.....the thing that I don't get most of all is.....Favre will give the Pack the best chance to win....and it's not close

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.

And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.

Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

Stop acting like Favre is the only reason they lost that game. Just ridiculous. I'm sure it had nothing to do with blown coverages or that they only were able to rush Ryan Grant 13 times for 29 yards. Favre was the only reason they made it to overtime.

 

[sho nuff]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

Sho Nuff, it's you against the world man, not even you and your great debating skills can save Ted Thompsons job with the Packers. The guy is toast.

Me against the world?Tell that to the executive committee who controls his job and has supported him this entire time.

Tell that to the stockholders who vote for the executive committee who mostly supported Thompson at the meeting last week.

Seems your opinion is the one that is in the minority here.

164-25 in favor of firing ThompsonYeah, I'm in the minority all right.

LOL

Wow...random internet poll.Nice one.

Try the reaction of the stockholders and executive committee...the only people who really matter when it comes to Ted Thompson and his job security.

I guess BB is in trouble too right? LOL

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

If Favre is lying, they sure seem less concerned about that than they do him coming to camp.

You're correct. With everything Favre has said in the media, the front office has had the chance to throw him under the bus. And they've chosen not to.And let's not forget, Brett demanded a trade last year when Moss wasn't brought on board. Of course, those were dismissed by him as 'all rumors'. Sound familiar? The guy's got a pattern going here. I know I won't change people's mind here, but I firmly believe if Favre truly wanted to play in Green Bay, these issues would not be coming up.

 

[T Bell]

@ the whole argument that Murphy went south to Favre's home to plead with him at this point. Get real, Favre fans. You whine about the team's stupid handling of this situation, and then when a team executive goes to communicate with the guy you gloat that it's pleading rather than the team actually trying to work out the problem with him. You people are all mental.

 

[ScottyFargo]

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

Stop acting like Favre is the only reason they lost that game. Just ridiculous. I'm sure it had nothing to do with blown coverages or that they only were able to rush Ryan Grant 13 times for 29 yards. Favre was the only reason they made it to overtime.

The teams inexperience alllowed them to survive a deep deficit against the Seahawks because they simply didn't know how bad off they were. Their inexperience probably had something to do with how they performed against the Giants, only Favre was unable to pull their fat out of the fire that week like he had against the Seahawks. But to place the blame on Favre solely is silly.

 

[sho nuff]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

Because Rodgers has yet to show he is a whiner.His get on board comment was out of frustration and dumb to say for sure.But Rodgers has handled this better than I could possibly have imagined he would have.

He is following a script, nothing more. When Michael Vick comes back and answers all the questions right, I'll dish out some credit, that might actually take some cajones to stand up there and listen to the questions. How hard is it really when you hear in the media "Oh, that poor Aaron Rodgers, this is so unfair" all the time. What he's doing is acting and it's a script he didn't even write, ok, he's a good actor. Now when Vick stands up there and people start thinking this guy has changed and deserves a chance, that will really be something. He has had 2 major injuries in a backup role already, man of steel. When he goes out for the season in week 2 I guess people will turn on him once again. Even if he's healthy I seen enough of him at Cal and was not surprised his stock fell during the draft, this guy has bust written all over him. When he does get hurt in week 2 and Brohm comes in and stinks it up you can bet the three most common words in Green Bay will be "Fire Ted Thompson".

I saw him at Cal too...shredding a USC defense that was damn good.Keep up your posts though...they are amusing.

 

[Chachi]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I don't care what TT has said. I predict that either today or tomorrow, Brett is either released or traded to Minnesota. It's hard enough for Rodgers to replace a legend, not to mention having that very legend breathing down his neck. The Packers want no part of this. Nobody else is going to pay Brett $12 million this year, and Brett won't restructure his contract to accommodate anyone besides the Vikes. Murphy comes back from Mississippi and tells Ted, "We've got no choice. Make it happen."They can say all they want that there won't be a competition, but if Brett comes to camp and it's totally apparent to everyone that he's still the better QB, there's no way in hell that the Pack can get away with not playing him. I just can't see the Packers allowing this scenario to unfold.Just my two cents....

"Something's bound to happen"

 

[sho nuff]

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

Much of that dislike seems to be Favre's issue with how Thompson runs the team.And no...he should not just be given anything just because he wants to play.He does not just want to play either...as he is refusing to give the Packers a list of teams he would approve of being traded to and refused to talk to any of the teams GB has mentioned.So far, he is going about it in a way that many see through and is hurting his reputation far more than it is really hurting the franchise.

Well, he SHOULD be given his spot on the team since he is UNDER CONTRACT. And if he isn't asking to be traded and we know the Packers cannot release him, then perhaps he is comfortable being the best backup QB in the NFL? If that is the case, Packers should welcome him back with open arms, yes? Hugs and kisses?

Where has he not been given a spot on the roster?His papers have yet to be approved.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Favre and Thompson don't like each other. Period. It's pretty clear Favre does not want to play for Green Bay. Period. If you read this situation any other way, you're missing the venom he's spewing at the front office.

Yes, he should play if he wants to. The problem is he isn't donig this just because he wants to play. He's doing it because he wants to play, but just not for Green Bay.

And he's going about it in a such way that spares his reputation as he attempts to put the blame squarely on Green Bay.

Once again, don't let the good ol' boy pull one over on you.

Much of that dislike seems to be Favre's issue with how Thompson runs the team.And no...he should not just be given anything just because he wants to play.

He does not just want to play either...as he is refusing to give the Packers a list of teams he would approve of being traded to and refused to talk to any of the teams GB has mentioned.

So far, he is going about it in a way that many see through and is hurting his reputation far more than it is really hurting the franchise.

Well, he SHOULD be given his spot on the team since he is UNDER CONTRACT. And if he isn't asking to be traded and we know the Packers cannot release him, then perhaps he is comfortable being the best backup QB in the NFL? If that is the case, Packers should welcome him back with open arms, yes? Hugs and kisses?

Where has he not been given a spot on the roster?His papers have yet to be approved.

Murphy isn't waiting for him in Green Bay, unless he flew out to pick him up, eh?

 

[sho nuff]

I don't care what TT has said. I predict that either today or tomorrow, Brett is either released or traded to Minnesota. It's hard enough for Rodgers to replace a legend, not to mention having that very legend breathing down his neck. The Packers want no part of this. Nobody else is going to pay Brett $12 million this year, and Brett won't restructure his contract to accommodate anyone besides the Vikes. Murphy comes back from Mississippi and tells Ted, "We've got no choice. Make it happen."They can say all they want that there won't be a competition, but if Brett comes to camp and it's totally apparent to everyone that he's still the better QB, there's no way in hell that the Pack can get away with not playing him. I just can't see the Packers allowing this scenario to unfold.Just my two cents....

They will take a 5th round pick for him from any other team before taking even a 1st to send him to Minny.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

Wow. Just wow.

Things like that are tough to see when your head is completely surrounded by sand.

 

[sho nuff]

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

Stop acting like Favre is the only reason they lost that game. Just ridiculous. I'm sure it had nothing to do with blown coverages or that they only were able to rush Ryan Grant 13 times for 29 yards. Favre was the only reason they made it to overtime.

The teams inexperience alllowed them to survive a deep deficit against the Seahawks because they simply didn't know how bad off they were. Their inexperience probably had something to do with how they performed against the Giants, only Favre was unable to pull their fat out of the fire that week like he had against the Seahawks. But to place the blame on Favre solely is silly.

I don't blame Favre solely for the Giants game...nor do I give him all that credit for the Seahawks game.The Oline dominated that game.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

Wow. Just wow.

Things like that are tough to see when your head is completely surrounded by sand.

That's rich. I'll just use Favre's famous line everytime he does something stupid: "It's all just rumours".

 

[Chachi]

I, as a True Packer fan, will back whomever the future GB QB is going to be. I just can't bring myself to believe that Favre does not give the best chance at a super bowl. I personally think Rodgers is more of whiner than Favre. Has everyone forgotten the "Get on Board" comments? He is not proven and Favre has come out and has asked to compete for the starting job although he does not believe he should have too. The only one that gets the shaft in this whole deal will be Rodgers anyway. I also brought myself to the reality that the legend was over and a new era was starting, but if the guys wants to come back let him! He has earned it and if he can compete and win the nod I say start him.

Why this isn't every Packer fan's point of view is beyond me.

Because Rodgers has yet to show he is a whiner.His get on board comment was out of frustration and dumb to say for sure.But Rodgers has handled this better than I could possibly have imagined he would have.

He is following a script, nothing more. When Michael Vick comes back and answers all the questions right, I'll dish out some credit, that might actually take some cajones to stand up there and listen to the questions. How hard is it really when you hear in the media "Oh, that poor Aaron Rodgers, this is so unfair" all the time. What he's doing is acting and it's a script he didn't even write, ok, he's a good actor. Now when Vick stands up there and people start thinking this guy has changed and deserves a chance, that will really be something. He has had 2 major injuries in a backup role already, man of steel. When he goes out for the season in week 2 I guess people will turn on him once again. Even if he's healthy I seen enough of him at Cal and was not surprised his stock fell during the draft, this guy has bust written all over him. When he does get hurt in week 2 and Brohm comes in and stinks it up you can bet the three most common words in Green Bay will be "Fire Ted Thompson".

I saw him at Cal too...shredding a USC defense that was damn good.Keep up your posts though...they are amusing.

Keep up your posts, Ted Thompson may call you and ask you out on a date. Your posts are even more amusing.

 

[ScottyFargo]

But here's the problem if Favre is on the Packers roster he IS the starter. The Packers want to move on I think that much is clear. I think Thompson is in a no win situation I can't see any way this works out in his favor. With Favre's papers in the NFL offices and his reinstatement coming some time today we will see how this all plays out.....I would be great if the pack and Favre can work something out that works for both of them...but I think the only thing that works for the Pack is Favre riding off into the sunset......which again I don't understand because Favre give them the best chance to win.

To win what, double digit wins during the season just to blow it in the playoffs? So where are the Packers next year? No better off than they are today. Sounds like a great plan for an NFL franchise. The old man is not capable of winning another SB.

Stop acting like Favre is the only reason they lost that game. Just ridiculous. I'm sure it had nothing to do with blown coverages or that they only were able to rush Ryan Grant 13 times for 29 yards. Favre was the only reason they made it to overtime.

The teams inexperience alllowed them to survive a deep deficit against the Seahawks because they simply didn't know how bad off they were. Their inexperience probably had something to do with how they performed against the Giants, only Favre was unable to pull their fat out of the fire that week like he had against the Seahawks. But to place the blame on Favre solely is silly.

I don't blame Favre solely for the Giants game...nor do I give him all that credit for the Seahawks game.The Oline dominated that game.

How'd the Oline perform against the Giants? I am not fishing here, I promise. I watched the game I just don't remember sacks, but it sounded like Grant had more trouble. I know the Giants D-line was the strongest part about their play last year and what ultimately helped them beat the Pats.

 

[Chachi]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

Wow. Just wow.

I hope you're saying WOW because you researched it and now realize Thompson is a liar. I'm not saying anything earth shattering here. It's about as hard to understand as if I was to say that sexual predators once released from jail are likely to reoffend, hope that's not a shock to you, oh yeah, the sun rises in the East, Trust me.

 

[sho nuff]

I bet the Packers' "plan" for Favre in camp is not that he gets to work out with the second team even.That whole "he can be a backup" and "he can be part of the team" is now shown to be false as far as I can tell, to shift balme to Favre. Otherwise, why are they trying so hard to prevent him from caoming to camp?

Again...you are only taking Favre's word as far as them preventing him from coming to camp.According to Thompson...it was Favre who offered to stay away while they worked on trying to resolved this/trade him.And from several accounts in the journal sentinel, Rodgers would continue to get about 50% of the snaps and the rest would be split between Favre and Brohm and Flynn some...with Flynn most likely released or kept to be on the practice squad later.

Thompson was lying. I mentioned this before, he looked down twice as he said this. Anyone who studies language and the relationship of body language and spoken language will tell you that when a person does that they are lying. Trust me and if you don't go do some research on this and maybe you'll finally see why Ted Thompson needs to be fired.

Which way did he look after looking down?Also...part of learning body language...as an auditor I have taken many classes on this.Up and right you are accessing the creative portions of your brain...meaning you are probably lying and making something up.Up and left, you are accessing the memory functions and are probably telling the truth.If they look straight to the left, they are remembering something they actually said...down and right they are remembering something they actually heard.If they look right...they probably making something up.Down and right they are probably giving personal feelings.So no...looking down is no sole indicator of any lies or untruthfulness.The only research I needed was finding my training manual from the class I took earlier this year.