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I was just curious....what was Rodgers' career playoff record again? How about his career regular season record in the games he has started/finished?
This is a TOTAL case where Packer-Backers HAVE to dwell on those five playoff losses because of what Favre's done off the field. However, if Favre had said after the Giants loss that he'd be back to kick ### and take no prisoners in 2008, all we'd be hearing about is those three wins and the "living legend." 
Until his first interception, fumble or injury.....
I am telling you what multiple media sources are reporting for the motivation the front office has. My thinking is you have to be in the playoffs to go 3-5. The guy still got them there. The 3 reasons commonly reported for the Packer position are:1.) recent playoff record/effect of cold weather on his older bodyI was just curious....what was Rodgers' career playoff record again? How about his career regular season record in the games he has started/finished?
HUH? It's NEW YORK.. They have an improved OL, RB depth, decent WR's and an up and coming Defense...Not only do I see him wanting to go there but, I can see it as his #1 spot right now especially with GB prefering he go to the AFC.And as a Jets fan, I haven't been the biggest Farve fan over the years... But, with the QB's we're looking at right now I say DO IT!!!! IMMEDIATELY!!!!
Yup, the legend is dead. Even before this happened Favre was not a top 3 and maybe not a top 5 Legend in Green Bay.Lambeau, Lombardi, Starr just to mention 3 that are above him.I was just curious....what was Rodgers' career playoff record again? How about his career regular season record in the games he has started/finished?
its also cold and windy in NY and they won 4 games last year, that was my reasoning. I don't know if they run the same wco or not I guess.
As a Jets homer I have mixed feelings about this. One, I think FAvre is undoubtedly an upgrade at the QB position, something that may push them into the playoffs. Since they have built up their FA signings this offseason, this would fit into the "win now" sentiment, whether the Jets say that or not. However, the other part of me says this will render Chad useless and stunt the growth of Clemens. The growth of Clemens concerns me more, since we don't know if he can lead this team or not. Favre is not the long term answer, obviously, and the Jets desperately need to have some stability long term. I can't imagine the Jets getting Favre for peanuts, therefore compounding the effect this deal would have on their franchise's future. I want to win now, I just am not sure this is what's best for the Jets.
The obvious reason the Packers would allow a team to speak directly with a player is so these issues can be worked out before the trade is made.
I totally agree with you. The most entertaining offseason in a very, very long time. The only thing I disagree with you about is that Rodgers might not survive training camp, let alone a month's worth of games. Trade him to the Bucs, and lose to Favre then. Let all the fans come to week 1 at home against the Vikings with their tickets that have Favre's face printed on them. Hilarious.
McCarthy has said the same thing and I think it is entirely non-controversial. Of course it would not be fair to Rodgers to accept Favre back under these circumstances. That's not to say it can't happen - life and football are sometimes unfair.
I would think they would work this into the details of the trade to prevent him from going to Minny. This is really the main reason the Packers don't have much leverage. If they are too picky, and don't move him fast enough they will either be stuck with the 12 mil hit, or be forced to release him with the high possibility of him staying in the NFC North.It's good to be the Jets or Bucs right now. I am sure the Jets / Bucs have been talking.
The Packers will put a provisions in any trade that will make it very undesirable for any team to do it. (ie - if you trade Favre to the Vikings, we get your next 8 first round picks, etc)
Not exactly. The Packers can trade him to whomever they like, but he can simply choose to not report to their TC, and then his rights revert back to the Packers. Rinse, repeat.
This is merely what Packer fans are praying will happen, not at all which makes it likely. A team will not allow trade for a commodity that he doesn't recieve full reign over how they want to deal with it. The Packers are the ones who have to move Favre, other teams do not need him as much as the Packers need to be rid of him.
Yes. Seeing what he has done to his former fans as well as the Packers themselves has made me hate him much less, and appreciate his diva qualities that much more.I'm starting to maybe kinda like himBroadway Brett
Jake Plummer's rights belong to the Bucs, no?
Do you seriously believe this?
Lets see. The better QB shows up and plays. Rodgers is no Brett. Even if Rodgers gets the start out of the gate, my expectations is no less than a playoff spot. Tough first game vs VIkings and boom, Brett comes in there and stays on for the remainder of year. You either say we are going with Brett or trade/release him in the end. Thompson must do something because the longer this goes on, the negative impact it will have on Rodgers and it could cost him his job. He must react IMO, immediately. The longer he waits, the more of a locker issue it becomes, the more presure it puts on Aaron(one thing to follow a legend but another to follow with the legend behind you and more than capable of replacing you) and the more it affects the fans and there thought process. The fans are willing to move on(I want Brett to stay myself but also see the reason for going to Aaron even if he only has 2 years on his contract and could be gone anyways) but the more they see of Brett, the more things rekindle. So the fans start to get behind Brett but Thompson waits to the end and releases him and Rodgers sucks. Thompson is done. Act now while the fans are behind it and understand. Even if my wishes are to keep Brett, I know that something has to happen now. One way or another. I just think Brett gives them best chance to equal or beat last year. In Brett's shoes, I do what I did. The ball is back in Thompson's corner now as if Brett had waited and done this like 3 weeks later, than Thompson would have been in a pickle but easier to release him at this point as not much time to learn new system. If he waited till the season started, than Brett would have been in a pickle as real easy for Thompson to release him and not have him come back to haunt them until mid-season
Of course not. Stop thinking 1 year at a time you guys. This is about the long term interests of the team.
As a fellow Jets fan, I need to ask you this: are you not at all concerned about the long-term ramifications to the organization? We will likely be drafting QB early again if Favre signs on. Are you that down on our QBs? With a good surrounding cast, Pennington is effective. Clemens has yet to be given the reigns, and I guess I am in the minority, but I feel he could be OK this year, and better going forward. I'd like to hear your thoughts.I'm starting to maybe kinda like himBroadway Brett
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Jets are my "local" team ,which I'll reconsider if Favre signs on, so you could say I'm not a true fan. Regardless, I'd say this move casts doubts on their faith in Clemens. Pennington is not a long-term answer and they're only interested in Favre if he'll play more than one season.
I'd be willing to bet that Farve has a no-trade clause in his contract. And his salary is $12 million dollars. How many teams would have that much open under the cap? My guess is he will have to be willing to renegotiate his contract wherever he goes.
I'm a huge homer but, I really think this team doesn't have any glaring holes anywhere near the hole at QB.... Well, and depth.I'm fine with taking next years #1 and drafting a QB. You can also look at other Vets to sign at this point.Wonder if any $$$$ can be saved by getting rid of Chad.As a fellow Jets fan, I need to ask you this: are you not at all concerned about the long-term ramifications to the organization? We will likely be drafting QB early again if Favre signs on. Are you that down on our QBs? With a good surrounding cast, Pennington is effective. Clemens has yet to be given the reigns, and I guess I am in the minority, but I feel he could be OK this year, and better going forward. I'd like to hear your thoughts.I'm starting to maybe kinda like him
Can't they just bar him from the facility even if he decides to report? The Titans did that with McNair before moving him to Baltimore. I would just do that while they try to work out a deal for him. Keep him out of the locker room, if possible, to avoid the problem altogether. It's clear the Packers don't want him playing for them this year anyway, so why have him cause a distraction by coming into camp.
The Titans violated the CBA when they did that to McNair.
From a live chat with Tom Silverstein going on right now over at JSOnline:Q: Ken of Birmingham - Sorry if this is a dumb question, but here goes: Let's say the Packers trade Favre to an AFC team...is there anything to stop that team from turning right around and trading Favre to the Vikings or Bears? Or to anyone else for that matter?
Another train of thought on this is that, very rarely, does the man replacing the man turn into the man. There is a school of thought that Brohm will eventually be the Packers "quarterback of the future" and Rodgers is really just a transistion guy, who will take the heat, criticism, etc, and then be moved when Brohm is ready. I continue to say this but, minus Clifton, Tauscher, Woodson, and Harris, this team is incredibly young everywhere else (wr, rb, fb, te, lb, safety, majority of ol). All of that needs to be taken into consideration. It is no guarantee that another year or two with Favre gets them anywhere.
You verified your speculation with someone elses speculation? Kudos.Aaronstory said:
Brett Favre's recent history in the playoffs, sure. Elway won a superbow at the very end of his career with a very talented team, so I think you're assuming the grapes are already sour.
Awesome. This is going to be a whole lot of fun for everyone but Packers fans.kwille said:
I am just assuming the percentages. All I am saying is everyone thinks Favre is the man again, based on last year (which was a great season). The 2 years before that everyone thought he was done and should hang it up. Favre has repeatedly said he is tired, and doesn't like the preparation, practice, game file analysis, etc. Who knows what type of year the guy will have.
Really tainting Favre.
Why can't he? If he really digs his heels in, he'll end up starting in Green Bay or Minnesota. For as unpopular as he currently is, he has a lot of power in this whole thing.
It is also opening everyone's eyes up to the incredible ego that he has hidden all these years.
