Farve to Report this Weekend (1 Viewer)

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

 

[ScottyFargo]

FWIW, Favre was just removed from the homepage on packers.com.

Retcon him right out o' Green Bay, nobody will notice!

 

[Darker Knight]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

IF Favre Makes it to Green Bay this will get real interesting........what would stop a team in the AFC from trading for Favre and then trading him to a team in the NFC like the Vikings?

 

[T Bell]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

IF Favre Makes it to Green Bay this will get real interesting........what would stop a team in the AFC from trading for Favre and then trading him to a team in the NFC like the Vikings?

The Packers can make a trade, or at least trade compensation, contingent upon Favre not being traded back into the NFC North. For example, the Packers can make as a term that the compensation they receive in trade will be increased (perhaps to a prohibitive level) in the event that he's traded back into their division.

 

[mozzy84]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

this is what I have been waiting patiently for. can't believe how bad he is screwing this team over and how horribly the packers have dealt with it, its like they didn't see this coming and everyone else did, its great to watch.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

this is what I have been waiting patiently for. can't believe how bad he is screwing this team over and how horribly the packers have dealt with it, its like they didn't see this coming and everyone else did, its great to watch.

 

[mozzy84]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

IF Favre Makes it to Green Bay this will get real interesting........what would stop a team in the AFC from trading for Favre and then trading him to a team in the NFC like the Vikings?

The Packers can make a trade, or at least trade compensation, contingent upon Favre not being traded back into the NFC North. For example, the Packers can make as a term that the compensation they receive in trade will be increased (perhaps to a prohibitive level) in the event that he's traded back into their division.

you make it sound so simple when its probably not, hell I don't think farve is going to let himself get traded anywhere, he wants his old job back.

 

[Darker Knight]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

IF Favre Makes it to Green Bay this will get real interesting........what would stop a team in the AFC from trading for Favre and then trading him to a team in the NFC like the Vikings?

The Packers can make a trade, or at least trade compensation, contingent upon Favre not being traded back into the NFC North. For example, the Packers can make as a term that the compensation they receive in trade will be increased (perhaps to a prohibitive level) in the event that he's traded back into their division.

you make it sound so simple when its probably not, hell I don't think farve is going to let himself get traded anywhere, he wants his old job back.

That's the rub....his old job has been filled.......But I think Favre would play for another team....

 

[NoFBinLA]

I can't imagine he'll go much cheaper than the 3rd and another component TT was talking about wanting.

But I can imagine this moving very quickly from here on out, especially if he shows up tomorrow. I'm gonna blog more about this later but the more I think about it, especially thinking on what Construxboy was saying earlier, the more i think this needed to happen now.

It will force both sides to show their hands and make some decisions. Favre has started the ball rolling. Now the Pack has to react.

I don't like how this has taken place - but I think at this point, it's the only way to get some momentum again.

 

[sho nuff]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

 

[sho nuff]

I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

I agree with this 100%. And for those of you (Ted) who are convinced that Rodgers is that guy (for whatever reason is beyond me), then let's find out. Put them both on the field, and let's see what happens. I'm pretty sure I remember an interview during the offseason (after they signed Chillar, I believe) where either McCarthy or TT was talking about how the team benefits from having people compete for positions. Except at QB, I guess.....

Ted is convinced...as are many others...that this situation is not just as simple as who is the best QB.

 

[Phurfur]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

I take that to be the case, when Thompson says, "We believe this is the best thing in the best interest of the organization, both in the short term and the long term." It appears he has the support of the coaches and the executive management. I personally am not terribly surprised that the coaching staff has determined it is time to move forward with Rodgers. This of course is the most reasonable explanation for their actions over the past four months. Obviously they can't simply release Favre, nor could they open the season with Favre on the Packer bench breaking his consecutive games streak on a Monday night. I think any form of open competition in training camp would be a circus, and not lead to any positive result. This isn't Grossman against Orton.I think Thompson is making the best of a very bad situation that is really the culmination of several years of frustration with Favre. According to today's paper, the Packers are not receiving any positive interest from the league on a trade, so they are really in a tough spot right now. I would guess they would be very happy with a conditional second day pick from any team outside the NFC North if Favre would agree to it. Personally, I would have no problem with Favre wearing the purple if the Packers got a first day pick out of it, just for appearances sake if nothing else. I'm still just enjoying the drama as a fan, but I think the point at which the team arguably begins suffering as a result of this ongoing saga is not too far off.

The team is suffering and will continue to suffer everyday until Brett Favre is back and named the starter. Get ready to live the 1970's and 1980's all over again if he is traded.

Oh, don't be so dramatic! Favre is washed up, why do you think no one is interested in him. Hello? Favre has had 10 years to win another SB and couldn't do it, why is this year different? GB has been stuck in limbo long enough with this guy. Time to move on.And no I am not a "hater" I own 2 Farve Jerseys (home and away) and have seen every pass he has thrown in GB. I just know when to put the jersey away.

washed up is 4155 passing yards for 28 TD's and 15 INT's?

try, NFC Championship Game - At Home - OT - You have the ball - INT and a loss.

 

[sho nuff]

Ted Thompson is playing all of you and the media like a fiddle.

FYP

So...Ted has been in the media calling Brett a liar and blasting him?IMO...Ted is handling the media circus much better than Brett...

 

[sho nuff]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

The Packer braintrust think beyond just 2008.

 

[vitaflo]

Ted is convinced...as are many others...that this situation is not just as simple as who is the best QB.

Given Favre's lack of commitment and missing the offseason, as well as just getting older, I'd rate both QB's about the same at this point. So the nod has to go to the younger guy. He can only get better.

 

[malaka]

Right before the annoucement of Favre faxing his resinstatement papers, it was stated the Packers have 24 hours after the reinstatement papers being signed to put him on the active roster. I am not sure where the Packers asking for another 24 hours is coming from, they may have well told Favre they were going to use the extra 24 hours they have under NFL rules before putting him on the active roster and not to show up.

There is even a chance there has been a trade worked out and part of getting the ball rolling on it, would be Favre needs to file reinstatement papers. I doubt if TT has been sitting on his hands the last couple days thinking this was never going to happen.

 

[ScottyFargo]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

So it wouldn't be a smart business decision to cut a player that you won't be playing this year, but it WOULD be a smart business decision to keep on a $12 million dollar contract for a backup QB? O.k., just wow. Talk about wasting a fortune.

 

[sho nuff]

Edit to add: I see both sides being at fault, but I just can't see how Favre is more at fault. In fact, when he said that TT told him he would only be a backup when he first called him a couple of weeks ago, I think most people here thought Favre was lying. Some have even said that and said he has lied or exaggerated other statements. But now Thompson pretty much admits that Favre can only be a backup. Which makes me lean toward Favre not lying quite as much as people think. So why is everyone so mad at Favre instead of Thompson?

Because Favre forced TT into this with his own actions and waffling long ago?Where TT had to start to prepare for when Favre was around.Then Favre did retire...then almost unretired by decided to stay retired...at that point...the team Had to move on. Its Thompson and several other people in that organization's opinion that once they moved on, there was no turning back.I think some people have said that there has not been a single direct quote from TT until most recently...and even still Favre's accounts of some of these conversations do not go exactly the same as Thompson's accounts of those conversations.Because Favre is the one who forced the issue here...Thompson is working with what was given and with what was around most all of the offseason.

 

[sho nuff]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

I take that to be the case, when Thompson says, "We believe this is the best thing in the best interest of the organization, both in the short term and the long term." It appears he has the support of the coaches and the executive management. I personally am not terribly surprised that the coaching staff has determined it is time to move forward with Rodgers. This of course is the most reasonable explanation for their actions over the past four months. Obviously they can't simply release Favre, nor could they open the season with Favre on the Packer bench breaking his consecutive games streak on a Monday night. I think any form of open competition in training camp would be a circus, and not lead to any positive result. This isn't Grossman against Orton.I think Thompson is making the best of a very bad situation that is really the culmination of several years of frustration with Favre. According to today's paper, the Packers are not receiving any positive interest from the league on a trade, so they are really in a tough spot right now. I would guess they would be very happy with a conditional second day pick from any team outside the NFC North if Favre would agree to it. Personally, I would have no problem with Favre wearing the purple if the Packers got a first day pick out of it, just for appearances sake if nothing else. I'm still just enjoying the drama as a fan, but I think the point at which the team arguably begins suffering as a result of this ongoing saga is not too far off.

The team is suffering and will continue to suffer everyday until Brett Favre is back and named the starter. Get ready to live the 1970's and 1980's all over again if he is traded.

Sorry Joe...can I call this ignorance?Just because Favre is not on that team...does not mean they will go back to those types of teams people.

 

[sho nuff]

Favre sent in his letter of reinstatement as per Mort on ESPN right now on NFL Live.

And Green Bay instantly begs for more time. I really, really hope he doesn't relent. He already put off turning i the papers at Green Bay's request long enough. Now it's time to turn the screws on 'em. You want him as a backup? We'll see how long that lasts.The countdown to the release has started...

Thompson claims it was not at his request...but that Favre is the one who volunteered to do so.Im not saying which side is telling the truth...just pointing out that it is not necessarily fact that Favre was just asked to do so.

 

[mozzy84]

Ted is convinced...as are many others...that this situation is not just as simple as who is the best QB.

Given Favre's lack of commitment and missing the offseason, as well as just getting older, I'd rate both QB's about the same at this point. So the nod has to go to the younger guy. He can only get better.

he can only get better than what?

 

[ScottyFargo]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

I take that to be the case, when Thompson says, "We believe this is the best thing in the best interest of the organization, both in the short term and the long term." It appears he has the support of the coaches and the executive management. I personally am not terribly surprised that the coaching staff has determined it is time to move forward with Rodgers. This of course is the most reasonable explanation for their actions over the past four months. Obviously they can't simply release Favre, nor could they open the season with Favre on the Packer bench breaking his consecutive games streak on a Monday night. I think any form of open competition in training camp would be a circus, and not lead to any positive result. This isn't Grossman against Orton.I think Thompson is making the best of a very bad situation that is really the culmination of several years of frustration with Favre. According to today's paper, the Packers are not receiving any positive interest from the league on a trade, so they are really in a tough spot right now. I would guess they would be very happy with a conditional second day pick from any team outside the NFC North if Favre would agree to it. Personally, I would have no problem with Favre wearing the purple if the Packers got a first day pick out of it, just for appearances sake if nothing else. I'm still just enjoying the drama as a fan, but I think the point at which the team arguably begins suffering as a result of this ongoing saga is not too far off.

The team is suffering and will continue to suffer everyday until Brett Favre is back and named the starter. Get ready to live the 1970's and 1980's all over again if he is traded.

Sorry Joe...can I call this ignorance?Just because Favre is not on that team...does not mean they will go back to those types of teams people.

The odds certainly increase with this fiasco, however. Needs a fast resolution because having Favre at TC will do nothing good for the team. This distraction will just get a whole lot worse.

 

[sho nuff]

I've been preparing for a few years now, and took the final mental step when Favre gave his entirely sincere and convincing performance last March. All good things must come to an end. I am excited for the future (as I was every Fall in the 70's and 80's). At least we won't have to suffer all the bandwagon-hopping, cheesehead-wearing face-painters who have taken over at Lambeau the past 10 years.

The only thing that sucks though is the substantial drop in local/national interest after all those horn-wearing, er, cheesehead-wearing casual fans go away. Been there, done that. Copyright: Kneel-Down Denny on January 17, 1999.

Only problem is the place will still sell out...the fans will still come...the fans will still buy things and support that team.Favre or no Favre...that does not change.

 

[malaka]

Ted is convinced...as are many others...that this situation is not just as simple as who is the best QB.

Given Favre's lack of commitment and missing the offseason, as well as just getting older, I'd rate both QB's about the same at this point. So the nod has to go to the younger guy. He can only get better.

Refresh my memory how much practice and offseason did Favre do last season? The younger guy can only get better? Hmmm tell that to Leaf, A. Smith, should I go on?By the way, I really want Favre traded, just don't think its that cut and dry about Rodgers being the better QB or the future of the team.....that remains to be seen, Brohm may very well be the future of this team.

 

[sho nuff]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

So it wouldn't be a smart business decision to cut a player that you won't be playing this year, but it WOULD be a smart business decision to keep on a $12 million dollar contract for a backup QB? O.k., just wow. Talk about wasting a fortune.

Money is not the business issue involved...you are again thinking short term.12 mil is a drop in the bucket for next year.

 

[sho nuff]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

I take that to be the case, when Thompson says, "We believe this is the best thing in the best interest of the organization, both in the short term and the long term." It appears he has the support of the coaches and the executive management. I personally am not terribly surprised that the coaching staff has determined it is time to move forward with Rodgers. This of course is the most reasonable explanation for their actions over the past four months. Obviously they can't simply release Favre, nor could they open the season with Favre on the Packer bench breaking his consecutive games streak on a Monday night. I think any form of open competition in training camp would be a circus, and not lead to any positive result. This isn't Grossman against Orton.I think Thompson is making the best of a very bad situation that is really the culmination of several years of frustration with Favre. According to today's paper, the Packers are not receiving any positive interest from the league on a trade, so they are really in a tough spot right now. I would guess they would be very happy with a conditional second day pick from any team outside the NFC North if Favre would agree to it. Personally, I would have no problem with Favre wearing the purple if the Packers got a first day pick out of it, just for appearances sake if nothing else. I'm still just enjoying the drama as a fan, but I think the point at which the team arguably begins suffering as a result of this ongoing saga is not too far off.

The team is suffering and will continue to suffer everyday until Brett Favre is back and named the starter. Get ready to live the 1970's and 1980's all over again if he is traded.

Sorry Joe...can I call this ignorance?Just because Favre is not on that team...does not mean they will go back to those types of teams people.

The odds certainly increase with this fiasco, however. Needs a fast resolution because having Favre at TC will do nothing good for the team. This distraction will just get a whole lot worse.

The odds of the 70s and 80s type teams don't change at all with this.

 

[T Bell]

I heard on ESPN he has signed his papers and turned them in.....What next?

Favre will be traded IMO and for a lot cheaper than people expect. With the reinstatement papers in, Ted has to deal him quickly or face a nightmare situation when Brett enters the lockerroom. Other teams know this and I'm certain they're playing their hand appropriately.

IF Favre Makes it to Green Bay this will get real interesting........what would stop a team in the AFC from trading for Favre and then trading him to a team in the NFC like the Vikings?

The Packers can make a trade, or at least trade compensation, contingent upon Favre not being traded back into the NFC North. For example, the Packers can make as a term that the compensation they receive in trade will be increased (perhaps to a prohibitive level) in the event that he's traded back into their division.

you make it sound so simple when its probably not, hell I don't think farve is going to let himself get traded anywhere, he wants his old job back.

I'm not saying the situation is simple, I'm just saying that the ability of the Packers to prevent a retrade of Favre back into their division would seem to be pretty simple.

 

[Phurfur]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

So it wouldn't be a smart business decision to cut a player that you won't be playing this year, but it WOULD be a smart business decision to keep on a $12 million dollar contract for a backup QB? O.k., just wow. Talk about wasting a fortune.

If Favre were a team player he could come in as #2 and help the team. Since everyone thinks Rodgers won't make it out of training camp Favre would be starting week 1. But it has been pretty obvious that Favre is not a team player. Maybe that is why nobody wants him?

 

[datonn]

If Favre were a team player he could come in as #2 and help the team. Since everyone thinks Rodgers won't make it out of training camp Favre would be starting week 1. But it has been pretty obvious that Favre is not a team player. Maybe that is why nobody wants him for what the Packers have been asking?

Fixed that last sentence for you....

 

[vitaflo]

Ted is convinced...as are many others...that this situation is not just as simple as who is the best QB.

Given Favre's lack of commitment and missing the offseason, as well as just getting older, I'd rate both QB's about the same at this point. So the nod has to go to the younger guy. He can only get better.

Refresh my memory how much practice and offseason did Favre do last season? The younger guy can only get better? Hmmm tell that to Leaf, A. Smith, should I go on?By the way, I really want Favre traded, just don't think its that cut and dry about Rodgers being the better QB or the future of the team.....that remains to be seen, Brohm may very well be the future of this team.

I guess the point is that we know Favre has only one way to go. Down. I suppose Rodgers could stink up the joint, but I'd rather find that out sooner than later. Last thing I want is Favre to come back, Rodgers get pissed and leave and become the reincarnation of Steve Young for some other ball club.

 

[mozzy84]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

So it wouldn't be a smart business decision to cut a player that you won't be playing this year, but it WOULD be a smart business decision to keep on a $12 million dollar contract for a backup QB? O.k., just wow. Talk about wasting a fortune.

If Favre were a team player he could come in as #2 and help the team. Since everyone thinks Rodgers won't make it out of training camp Favre would be starting week 1. But it has been pretty obvious that Favre is not a team player. Maybe that is why nobody wants him?

I'm sure alot of GM's and players alike were shaking there heads at alot of his comments.

 

[gorf]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers-

 

[ScottyFargo]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

 

[Bizkiteer]

They should bring Favre in and make him fetch Gatorade for everyone during practice. Stuff like that, when he starts to not do it because he's too good for that...they can suspend him for various reasons of their choosing.

Brett!

 

[JamesTheScot]

For all you, "he's under contract" people, if you really felt that way you would be clamoring for him to be given back the starting job. We all know why that isn't going to happen. When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing. He wants to play while he still can, and Green Bay is no longer affording him that opportunity. I think he's being pretty selfish, as usual for Brett Favre, however who else should he be thinking about when he's being forced back into retirement that he doesn't want any part of now?He's selfish, but obviously the Packers are being selfish AND petty over this whole ordeal.

Given back the starting job? Where in his contract does it say he has the right to that starting position?The Packers are doing their best to act within the best interest of their franchise...as they have every right to be.Im not saying they have done this 100% correct...but some of this post of yours is a bit misguided IMO.

So it wouldn't be a smart business decision to cut a player that you won't be playing this year, but it WOULD be a smart business decision to keep on a $12 million dollar contract for a backup QB? O.k., just wow. Talk about wasting a fortune.

If Favre were a team player he could come in as #2 and help the team. Since everyone thinks Rodgers won't make it out of training camp Favre would be starting week 1. But it has been pretty obvious that Favre is not a team player. Maybe that is why nobody wants him?

I'm sure alot of GM's and players alike were shaking there heads at alot of his comments.

I think there is something to this. How many teams are Brett Favre away from making a Super Bowl run this year? Not many. So there is little incentive for them to trade for a guy that will only jerk them around next offseason like he has been doing the Packers for the past few years when he might only play for them for one year.I hope McCarthy and the Packers treat Favre like any other player on the roster this preseason. Maybe Favre can take it and act like a member of the team. I'm suspecting his prima donna attitude would end up surfacing before long."I'm Brett Favre, beatch!"

 

[3nOut]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers-

The problem is that the Packers were willing to do that. Brett said no and insisted he be traded.

 

[ScottyFargo]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers-

The problem is that the Packers were willing to do that. Brett said no and insisted he be traded.

And then the Packers showed their cards when he asked if he'd be welcome if he came to TC. They freaked out because they really don't want or need the distraction and commotion. They tried to strong arm him back into retirement because that's the only easy solution for them.But Favre and his camp are aware they can't have him there creating an even bigger media circus at the camp when they are trying to focus with the most inexperienced roster in the NFL.

 

[ScottyFargo]

They should bring Favre in and make him fetch Gatorade for everyone during practice. Stuff like that, when he starts to not do it because he's too good for that...they can suspend him for various reasons of their choosing. Brett!

They don't want to tarnish his legacy.

 

[3nOut]

When Brett Favre signed that contract, he didn't sign it expecting to be the backup QB pulling in $12 million dollars in what could be his last year of playing.

Too bad what he expected or didn't expect. I'm pretty sure he signed the contract to be on the team, not to be the starting QB. Otherwise he'd be suing them for breach of contract. They can tell him to do whatever they want, even fetch water for everyone if they wanted to. If he doesn't like that, he can retire.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I read in another thread that Favre just wants a release so he is 100% in control of where he goes (like Minny, where he probably won't get traded).He might fear that if he gives a list of teams, that he will be traded right away instead of released.Stupid, but it sort of makes sense.

It still strikes me as incredibly selfish or arrogant that he thinks he can force a release so he can play potentially in the division. If I were he, I would be working with TT closely to figure out where he can go so he can play in a decent situation - rather than just sit at home and make the process slow.

What should he do? They basically want to deny him any right to play this year unless it's under THEIR terms.What would you do?

Um...be like any other player and realize that you play under their terms.Oh, but Favre isn't a prima donna, is he?

 

[3nOut]

Exactly, but they won't let him play with their team.

They never said he couldn't, just not as a starter.

Yes he is now being wronged. He's UNDER CONTRACT, so he should be allowed to compete for the job, and if not they should let him play elsewhere.

SHOULD and HAVE TO are two different things. I'm not even sure they SHOULD.

I have come a full 360 on this. Favre caused this, he did. The Packers handled it the way they should have, in the beginning...... But now Thompson has totally dropped the ball. Favre said he would come in and compete, that's the best you could hope for. But nooooo, TT said no way to that. Not only is that ignorant but it just shows you how big of an EGO TT really has. I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

This might very well be what takes TT down. It's a total lack of leadership. If Ron Wolf was there, no chance this cluster..... happens.

Don't you mean 180? If you did a full 360, you'd be where you started.

 

[JamesTheScot]

I read in another thread that Favre just wants a release so he is 100% in control of where he goes (like Minny, where he probably won't get traded).

He might fear that if he gives a list of teams, that he will be traded right away instead of released.

Stupid, but it sort of makes sense.

It still strikes me as incredibly selfish or arrogant that he thinks he can force a release so he can play potentially in the division. If I were he, I would be working with TT closely to figure out where he can go so he can play in a decent situation - rather than just sit at home and make the process slow.

What should he do? They basically want to deny him any right to play this year unless it's under THEIR terms.What would you do?

He's UNDER CONTRACT. He can only play on their terms.What is unclear about that? Why should he get to say 'I know it would be a bad idea for you to let me play for another team in our division but I really want to...'? Why should the team bow to him? Why is he more special than say, the left tackle? Because he's Brett Favre?

I don't get you guys at all. He has made his choice - repeatedly - and the choices he makes are nothing but self serving and myopic. He's like my pre-schooler - he wants what he wants when he wants it and if he doesn't get it, he just keeps asking or pushing in the hopes he'll get it anyway. Doesn't work for my kid, shouldn't work for Favre.

What would I do? Quit (stay retired) or play out my contract then move on. THOSE ARE HIS CHOICES.

He doesn't get to dictate to his employer - that's not how it works.

The Packers tried to give him a shot - He retired. He wanted to come back in March. They welcomed him by all accounts. He flip flopped again! And here we are.

But now he's being wronged?

Tell me - are you honestly saying that the Pack should release him - even if itmeans he plays against them - just because he is Brett Favre?

Do you really believe that? How does that makes sense at all?

Exactly, but they won't let him play with their team.Yes he is now being wronged. He's UNDER CONTRACT, so he should be allowed to compete for the job, and if not they should let him play elsewhere.

I have come a full 360 on this. Favre caused this, he did. The Packers handled it the way they should have, in the beginning...... But now Thompson has totally dropped the ball. Favre said he would come in and compete, that's the best you could hope for. But nooooo, TT said no way to that. Not only is that ignorant but it just shows you how big of an EGO TT really has. I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

This might very well be what takes TT down. It's a total lack of leadership. If Ron Wolf was there, no chance this cluster..... happens.

He should be allowed to wear the uniform on Sunday and draw his check. That's all he's owed. How many QB positions are really "open to competition" this offseason? Not that many. Teams pick starters and let the backups compete for roster spots all the time. I'm not aware of any "right to start" or even a "right to compete" clause in anyone's contract. They have no obligation to let him "play".

 

[Franknbeans]

Does the Packer braintrust really believe Rodgers gives them a better chance to win than Favre?

The Packer braintrust think beyond just 2008.

so that's a no?

 

[ScottyFargo]

I read in another thread that Favre just wants a release so he is 100% in control of where he goes (like Minny, where he probably won't get traded).

He might fear that if he gives a list of teams, that he will be traded right away instead of released.

Stupid, but it sort of makes sense.

It still strikes me as incredibly selfish or arrogant that he thinks he can force a release so he can play potentially in the division. If I were he, I would be working with TT closely to figure out where he can go so he can play in a decent situation - rather than just sit at home and make the process slow.

What should he do? They basically want to deny him any right to play this year unless it's under THEIR terms.What would you do?

He's UNDER CONTRACT. He can only play on their terms.What is unclear about that? Why should he get to say 'I know it would be a bad idea for you to let me play for another team in our division but I really want to...'? Why should the team bow to him? Why is he more special than say, the left tackle? Because he's Brett Favre?

I don't get you guys at all. He has made his choice - repeatedly - and the choices he makes are nothing but self serving and myopic. He's like my pre-schooler - he wants what he wants when he wants it and if he doesn't get it, he just keeps asking or pushing in the hopes he'll get it anyway. Doesn't work for my kid, shouldn't work for Favre.

What would I do? Quit (stay retired) or play out my contract then move on. THOSE ARE HIS CHOICES.

He doesn't get to dictate to his employer - that's not how it works.

The Packers tried to give him a shot - He retired. He wanted to come back in March. They welcomed him by all accounts. He flip flopped again! And here we are.

But now he's being wronged?

Tell me - are you honestly saying that the Pack should release him - even if itmeans he plays against them - just because he is Brett Favre?

Do you really believe that? How does that makes sense at all?

Exactly, but they won't let him play with their team.Yes he is now being wronged. He's UNDER CONTRACT, so he should be allowed to compete for the job, and if not they should let him play elsewhere.

I have come a full 360 on this. Favre caused this, he did. The Packers handled it the way they should have, in the beginning...... But now Thompson has totally dropped the ball. Favre said he would come in and compete, that's the best you could hope for. But nooooo, TT said no way to that. Not only is that ignorant but it just shows you how big of an EGO TT really has. I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

This might very well be what takes TT down. It's a total lack of leadership. If Ron Wolf was there, no chance this cluster..... happens.

He should be allowed to wear the uniform on Sunday and draw his check. That's all he's owed. How many QB positions are really "open to competition" this offseason? Not that many. Teams pick starters and let the backups compete for roster spots all the time. I'm not aware of any "right to start" or even a "right to compete" clause in anyone's contract. They have no obligation to let him "play".

He knows that. That's why he's called their bluff and asked for reinstatement and he will be the cause of the most destructive thing that could happen to their offseason. Even more exposure and media circus than what they are experiencing right now. That isn't the last thing they are saying they want (the last thing they want is Favre to play for a divisional opponent) but it could be strong enough to force them to cut the ties.

 

[sho nuff]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers- "More time, we'll all be fired!"

favre- "time's up."

And the fired line has been slightly disputed by Thompson too.Without just coming out and insinuating that Favre was lying as Favre did about Thompson.

 

[sho nuff]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers-

The problem is that the Packers were willing to do that. Brett said no and insisted he be traded.

And then the Packers showed their cards when he asked if he'd be welcome if he came to TC. They freaked out because they really don't want or need the distraction and commotion. They tried to strong arm him back into retirement because that's the only easy solution for them.But Favre and his camp are aware they can't have him there creating an even bigger media circus at the camp when they are trying to focus with the most inexperienced roster in the NFL.

Most inexperienced roster in the NFL? Link?Funny how most of that roster was 13-3 last year and now has playoff experience into the NFC Title game.

 

[sho nuff]

I read in another thread that Favre just wants a release so he is 100% in control of where he goes (like Minny, where he probably won't get traded).

He might fear that if he gives a list of teams, that he will be traded right away instead of released.

Stupid, but it sort of makes sense.

It still strikes me as incredibly selfish or arrogant that he thinks he can force a release so he can play potentially in the division. If I were he, I would be working with TT closely to figure out where he can go so he can play in a decent situation - rather than just sit at home and make the process slow.

What should he do? They basically want to deny him any right to play this year unless it's under THEIR terms.What would you do?

He's UNDER CONTRACT. He can only play on their terms.What is unclear about that? Why should he get to say 'I know it would be a bad idea for you to let me play for another team in our division but I really want to...'? Why should the team bow to him? Why is he more special than say, the left tackle? Because he's Brett Favre?

I don't get you guys at all. He has made his choice - repeatedly - and the choices he makes are nothing but self serving and myopic. He's like my pre-schooler - he wants what he wants when he wants it and if he doesn't get it, he just keeps asking or pushing in the hopes he'll get it anyway. Doesn't work for my kid, shouldn't work for Favre.

What would I do? Quit (stay retired) or play out my contract then move on. THOSE ARE HIS CHOICES.

He doesn't get to dictate to his employer - that's not how it works.

The Packers tried to give him a shot - He retired. He wanted to come back in March. They welcomed him by all accounts. He flip flopped again! And here we are.

But now he's being wronged?

Tell me - are you honestly saying that the Pack should release him - even if itmeans he plays against them - just because he is Brett Favre?

Do you really believe that? How does that makes sense at all?

Exactly, but they won't let him play with their team.Yes he is now being wronged. He's UNDER CONTRACT, so he should be allowed to compete for the job, and if not they should let him play elsewhere.

I have come a full 360 on this. Favre caused this, he did. The Packers handled it the way they should have, in the beginning...... But now Thompson has totally dropped the ball. Favre said he would come in and compete, that's the best you could hope for. But nooooo, TT said no way to that. Not only is that ignorant but it just shows you how big of an EGO TT really has. I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

This might very well be what takes TT down. It's a total lack of leadership. If Ron Wolf was there, no chance this cluster..... happens.

He should be allowed to wear the uniform on Sunday and draw his check. That's all he's owed. How many QB positions are really "open to competition" this offseason? Not that many. Teams pick starters and let the backups compete for roster spots all the time. I'm not aware of any "right to start" or even a "right to compete" clause in anyone's contract. They have no obligation to let him "play".

He knows that. That's why he's called their bluff and asked for reinstatement and he will be the cause of the most destructive thing that could happen to their offseason. Even more exposure and media circus than what they are experiencing right now. That isn't the last thing they are saying they want (the last thing they want is Favre to play for a divisional opponent) but it could be strong enough to force them to cut the ties.

As if any of this media attention or pressure or watchful eyes on every Rodgers pass will change no matter what happens.If Favre stayed retired...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

If Favre is the backup...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

If Favre is traded or released...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

Its already a circus...nothing at this point is going to change that.

 

[Irish]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.favre- "i want to play again"packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"favre- "ok, then please release me"packers- "no"favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"packers-

Packers- Brett you are now the 3rd string qb who will be inactive every gameFavre- I'm coming home Deanna

 

[ScottyFargo]

seems to me that favre holds the cards.

favre- "i want to play again"

packers- "sorry, rodgers is our qb now"

favre- "ok, then please release me"

packers- "no"

favre- "ok, then i'll show up and you can pay me $12 million to be the backup"

packers-

The problem is that the Packers were willing to do that. Brett said no and insisted he be traded.

And then the Packers showed their cards when he asked if he'd be welcome if he came to TC. They freaked out because they really don't want or need the distraction and commotion. They tried to strong arm him back into retirement because that's the only easy solution for them.But Favre and his camp are aware they can't have him there creating an even bigger media circus at the camp when they are trying to focus with the most inexperienced roster in the NFL.

Most inexperienced roster in the NFL? Link?Funny how most of that roster was 13-3 last year and now has playoff experience into the NFC Title game.

I am pretty sure you argued with a bears fan about the ages of your respective ballclubs, and you've been touting this "youngest team in the NFL" thing since last season. So you're my link.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I read in another thread that Favre just wants a release so he is 100% in control of where he goes (like Minny, where he probably won't get traded).

He might fear that if he gives a list of teams, that he will be traded right away instead of released.

Stupid, but it sort of makes sense.

It still strikes me as incredibly selfish or arrogant that he thinks he can force a release so he can play potentially in the division. If I were he, I would be working with TT closely to figure out where he can go so he can play in a decent situation - rather than just sit at home and make the process slow.

What should he do? They basically want to deny him any right to play this year unless it's under THEIR terms.What would you do?

He's UNDER CONTRACT. He can only play on their terms.What is unclear about that? Why should he get to say 'I know it would be a bad idea for you to let me play for another team in our division but I really want to...'? Why should the team bow to him? Why is he more special than say, the left tackle? Because he's Brett Favre?

I don't get you guys at all. He has made his choice - repeatedly - and the choices he makes are nothing but self serving and myopic. He's like my pre-schooler - he wants what he wants when he wants it and if he doesn't get it, he just keeps asking or pushing in the hopes he'll get it anyway. Doesn't work for my kid, shouldn't work for Favre.

What would I do? Quit (stay retired) or play out my contract then move on. THOSE ARE HIS CHOICES.

He doesn't get to dictate to his employer - that's not how it works.

The Packers tried to give him a shot - He retired. He wanted to come back in March. They welcomed him by all accounts. He flip flopped again! And here we are.

But now he's being wronged?

Tell me - are you honestly saying that the Pack should release him - even if itmeans he plays against them - just because he is Brett Favre?

Do you really believe that? How does that makes sense at all?

Exactly, but they won't let him play with their team.Yes he is now being wronged. He's UNDER CONTRACT, so he should be allowed to compete for the job, and if not they should let him play elsewhere.

I have come a full 360 on this. Favre caused this, he did. The Packers handled it the way they should have, in the beginning...... But now Thompson has totally dropped the ball. Favre said he would come in and compete, that's the best you could hope for. But nooooo, TT said no way to that. Not only is that ignorant but it just shows you how big of an EGO TT really has. I as a Packer fan want the best damn QB out there on opening day, I don't care who it is. TT doesn't want that, he wants HIS guy in there. That's total BS.

This might very well be what takes TT down. It's a total lack of leadership. If Ron Wolf was there, no chance this cluster..... happens.

He should be allowed to wear the uniform on Sunday and draw his check. That's all he's owed. How many QB positions are really "open to competition" this offseason? Not that many. Teams pick starters and let the backups compete for roster spots all the time. I'm not aware of any "right to start" or even a "right to compete" clause in anyone's contract. They have no obligation to let him "play".

He knows that. That's why he's called their bluff and asked for reinstatement and he will be the cause of the most destructive thing that could happen to their offseason. Even more exposure and media circus than what they are experiencing right now. That isn't the last thing they are saying they want (the last thing they want is Favre to play for a divisional opponent) but it could be strong enough to force them to cut the ties.

As if any of this media attention or pressure or watchful eyes on every Rodgers pass will change no matter what happens.If Favre stayed retired...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

If Favre is the backup...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

If Favre is traded or released...each Rodgers pass would be analyzed and some might call for Brett at the first sign of trouble.

Its already a circus...nothing at this point is going to change that.

The lights are that much hotter when you're not competing with the Ghost of the legend of Brett Favre, but when you have been artifically placed as the best QB on the team in front of him.