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Favre fined $50,000 (1 Viewer)

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Just heard on the Scott Van Pelt show hosted by Ryen R. No link.

The reason for the fine was "lack of cooperation". Nothing really surprising, didn't expect a suspension for a legend on his way out. I thought he deserved at least a game but GODell wasn't going to do that.

 
The NFL has fined Brett Favre $50,000 — but in a surprise twist, it has not determined that he violated the league’s personal-conduct policies. Instead the fine is for refusing to cooperate with the investigation into whether he sexually harassed Jenn Sterger when both worked for the New York Jets. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello has confirmed that the fine is for failure to cooperate, and not for violating league policy.
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linkSo NFL players can now stay out of trouble with the league by not cooperating with league investigations? Nice little loophole there.

Thanks, Brent!
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What is even more unbelievable to me is that the Vikings could play Favre this weekend. After the superb game by Webb, they need to let him have his shot and waive Farve goodbye.

 
Brett Favre made $24 million dollars in 2010. A $50k fine to Brett Favre is the EQUIVALENT of someone who makes $40,000 a year being fined $80.

 
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My team avatar this year was a picture of Jenn Sterger and my team motto was "Text me if you'd like to see my little Favre". My Team

Roger Goodell did his best to sweep this under rug but in the end he had to do something.

 
greenline said:
Brett Favre made $24 million dollars in 2010. A $50k fine to Brett Favre is the EQUIVALANT of someone who makes $40,000 a year being fined $80.
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I take it you're not a liberal. They'll have you know that this is nowhere near equivalent because that 40K guy needs the $80 far more than Favre needs 50K.
 
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.

 
DrJ said:
greenline said:
Brett Favre made $24 million dollars in 2010. A $50k fine to Brett Favre is the EQUIVALANT of someone who makes $40,000 a year being fined $80.
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I take it you're not a liberal. They'll have you know that this is nowhere near equivalent because that 40K guy needs the $80 far more than Favre needs 50K.
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This isn't a tax (where the fairness issue comes into play) it's a PUNISHMENT/DETERRENT/FINE. Since the goals of said fines is too deter future conduct, and the guys whose conduct you are trying to deter have a LOT of money, it would make sense that reasonable fine would be massive in scope (and since all nfl fines go to charity its win win all around). This is why the nfl put in the threats of games suspensions about 2 hours after Rodney Harisson went on TV and said that he put aside 250,000 for fines and considered them no deterrent when he played.No way in hell that he shouldn't be suspended next week, save the ratings they'll get by talking about him.
 
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey? or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?[counter-Hipple]
 
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey? or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?[counter-Hipple]
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in this yesno? As favre has more than 'whiteness' on his side, but you know that 'middle america' would have been much more up in arms with a black dude texting his #### to sterger, than they were with 'grampa brett'. it's almost like they are 'scolding' him the way to do you grandfather at a wedding who grabes a bridesmaids ### when his is wasted, rather than punishing him for offensive conduct (which they somehow can't prove/dsiprove-- does that sound like it was part of the negotiated settlement or what-- :(And for Godell to hand out a greater than/equal to fine than he has many egregious hits for example, for stonewalling the league and frustrating it's investigation? 50k? Isn't that what bud adams got for flipping off the crowd? hell he shoulda whipped it out, and get better mileage oughta that fine.Hell at a bare minimum they should fine him the costs of teh investigation/extra time they had to put in because he stonewalled em. This isn't a court of law, where you have the 'right to remain silent' as per the league. I think Godell isn't gonna have a single player who has a 'grey area' case deal with him after consulting a lawyer unless they are roethlisburger level guilty of a serious offense.I mean what's 50k :shrug: . when you make 7 figures...
 
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Glad to see this go away. Now she can take her stripper pole and get back to her day job opportunities.

Try to keep the moronic Black Vs White down to a minimum please. We can all go to PFT to get that bullsh*t

 
Hipple said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey? or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?[counter-Hipple]
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in this yesno? As favre has more than 'whiteness' on his side, but you know that 'middle america' would have been much more up in arms with a black dude texting his #### to sterger, than they were with 'grampa brett'. it's almost like they are 'scolding' him the way to do you grandfather at a wedding who grabes a bridesmaids ### when his is wasted, rather than punishing him for offensive conduct (which they somehow can't prove/dsiprove-- does that sound like it was part of the negotiated settlement or what-- :link:And for Godell to hand out a greater than/equal to fine than he has many egregious hits for example, for stonewalling the league and frustrating it's investigation. Hell at a bare minimum they should fine him the costs of teh investigation/extra time they had to put in because he stonewalled em. This isn't a court of law, where you have the 'right to remain silent' as per the league. I think Godell isn't gonna have a single player who has a 'grey area' case deal with him after consulting a lawyer unless they are roethlisburger level guilty of a serious offense.I mean what's 50k :lmao: . when you make 7 figures...
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Yes it is yesno.It isn't so much about race as it is WHO. Brady, Manning, Farve are golden boys. Tony Gonzalez also carries the golden boy banner. So does Jason Taylor. So does LT. Their prominence and success in the NFL garners them a greater likelihood of favorable treatment. Do I think Farve and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.Do I think Gonzo and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.Do I think Shockey and Farve would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.There is certainly a double standard, but race isn't the driod you're looking for.
 
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Why even inject race into this? People like you are always on the sidelines waiting to keep racism alive it seems.
 
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey?

or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?

[counter-Hipple]
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in this yesno? As favre has more than 'whiteness' on his side, but you know that 'middle america' would have been much more up in arms with a black dude texting his #### to sterger, than they were with 'grampa brett'. it's almost like they are 'scolding' him the way to do you grandfather at a wedding who grabes a bridesmaids ### when his is wasted, rather than punishing him for offensive conduct (which they somehow can't prove/dsiprove-- does that sound like it was part of the negotiated settlement or what-- :hophead: And for Godell to hand out a greater than/equal to fine than he has many egregious hits for example, for stonewalling the league and frustrating it's investigation. Hell at a bare minimum they should fine him the costs of teh investigation/extra time they had to put in because he stonewalled em. This isn't a court of law, where you have the 'right to remain silent' as per the league. I think Godell isn't gonna have a single player who has a 'grey area' case deal with him after consulting a lawyer unless they are roethlisburger level guilty of a serious offense.

I mean what's 50k :excited: . when you make 7 figures...
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Yes it is yesno.It isn't so much about race as it is WHO. Brady, Manning, Farve are golden boys. Tony Gonzalez also carries the golden boy banner. So does Jason Taylor. So does LT. Their prominence and success in the NFL garners them a greater likelihood of favorable treatment.

Do I think Farve and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

Do I think Gonzo and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

Do I think Shockey and Farve would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

There is certainly a double standard, but race isn't the driod you're looking for.
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What? LT is set to go on trial for rape pretty soon. Pretty sure he's not carrying any golden boy banners.
 
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey? or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?[counter-Hipple]
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in this yesno? As favre has more than 'whiteness' on his side, but you know that 'middle america' would have been much more up in arms with a black dude texting his #### to sterger, than they were with 'grampa brett'. it's almost like they are 'scolding' him the way to do you grandfather at a wedding who grabes a bridesmaids ### when his is wasted, rather than punishing him for offensive conduct (which they somehow can't prove/dsiprove-- does that sound like it was part of the negotiated settlement or what-- :hophead:And for Godell to hand out a greater than/equal to fine than he has many egregious hits for example, for stonewalling the league and frustrating it's investigation. Hell at a bare minimum they should fine him the costs of teh investigation/extra time they had to put in because he stonewalled em. This isn't a court of law, where you have the 'right to remain silent' as per the league. I think Godell isn't gonna have a single player who has a 'grey area' case deal with him after consulting a lawyer unless they are roethlisburger level guilty of a serious offense.I mean what's 50k :excited: . when you make 7 figures...
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Yes it is yesno.It isn't so much about race as it is WHO. Brady, Manning, Farve are golden boys. Tony Gonzalez also carries the golden boy banner. So does Jason Taylor. So does LT. Their prominence and success in the NFL garners them a greater likelihood of favorable treatment. Do I think Farve and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.Do I think Gonzo and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.Do I think Shockey and Farve would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.There is certainly a double standard, but race isn't the driod you're looking for.
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I think public/media outcry would have been bigger.But I can see your point too. Maybe it's the African American/womyns studies courses at Michiogan, but I can't imagine that even the most ardent 'opponents of the race card' would have to admit that those connotations would be much more omnipresent in this particluar context. [not subtle but overt sexual harrassment from a 'thug' to a pretty little white girl] :wall: Sorry if saying it makes some feel uncomfortable. It is what it is :hot:
 
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Hipple said:
Parrothead said:
ouch... 15K per inch..
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at a bare minimum I bet Randy would have had a more substantial fine according to this fine structure.Though I bet no one would want to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. :hophead:
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Dude don't blow all of your other good posts on this site reciting this crap. It is a sure fire way to get :blocked: I like what you typically have to say but this just seems like an example of you wanting to hear yourself talk. Get over it already.
 
Dexter Manley said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
Idiot Boxer said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Do you really believe race is the (sole) issue? how would this had gone down if Big Ben had been the guy? Or Jeremy Shockey?

or Jason Taylor? Or Brian Waters? Or LT?

[counter-Hipple]
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in this yesno? As favre has more than 'whiteness' on his side, but you know that 'middle america' would have been much more up in arms with a black dude texting his #### to sterger, than they were with 'grampa brett'. it's almost like they are 'scolding' him the way to do you grandfather at a wedding who grabes a bridesmaids ### when his is wasted, rather than punishing him for offensive conduct (which they somehow can't prove/dsiprove-- does that sound like it was part of the negotiated settlement or what-- :goodposting: And for Godell to hand out a greater than/equal to fine than he has many egregious hits for example, for stonewalling the league and frustrating it's investigation. Hell at a bare minimum they should fine him the costs of teh investigation/extra time they had to put in because he stonewalled em. This isn't a court of law, where you have the 'right to remain silent' as per the league. I think Godell isn't gonna have a single player who has a 'grey area' case deal with him after consulting a lawyer unless they are roethlisburger level guilty of a serious offense.

I mean what's 50k :shrug: . when you make 7 figures...
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Yes it is yesno.It isn't so much about race as it is WHO. Brady, Manning, Farve are golden boys. Tony Gonzalez also carries the golden boy banner. So does Jason Taylor. So does LT. Their prominence and success in the NFL garners them a greater likelihood of favorable treatment.

Do I think Farve and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

Do I think Gonzo and Moss would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

Do I think Shockey and Farve would have received the same treatment by the NFL for the same incident? No.

There is certainly a double standard, but race isn't the driod you're looking for.
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What? LT is set to go on trial for rape pretty soon. Pretty sure he's not carrying any golden boy banners.
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LT2.LaDanian for the context impaired.

 
jafo said:
Hipple said:
And for those of you that think racism no longer exists, how much differently would this have gone down if it was Randy Moss sending texts of his Johnson and not Favre, the golden boy.
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Why even inject race into this? People like you are always on the sidelines waiting to keep racism alive it seems.
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Because I live in the real world, where racism is often an issue/strong undercurrent/subtext. Now you can instead say 'but it's because brett/brady' are the golden boys of the league, but (and this opens a whole can of worms so we can just agree to not discuss it) the difference between who randy moss is and is perceived to be from a sociological perspective has a lot to do with vestiges and elements of race in society. But I agree (as I said above) that this isn't a 100% race issue, but I think being blind to racisms institutional effects and vestiges by pretending that they have no merit at the discussion table is disingenuous. I understand how the al sharptons of the world often poison any real discussion on the issues, but it doesn't make racism vanish as if by fiat because you want it to go away..
 
NCPanthersFan said:
Hipple said:
Parrothead said:
ouch... 15K per inch..
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at a bare minimum I bet Randy would have had a more substantial fine according to this fine structure.Though I bet no one would want to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. :wall:
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Dude don't blow all of your other good posts on this site reciting this crap. It is a sure fire way to get :blocked: I like what you typically have to say but this just seems like an example of you wanting to hear yourself talk. Get over it already.
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:mellow: It's nice to know that one can't engage in a serious discussion and engage in a little litte hearted banter from time to time. Freud would say that likely stems from something you and brett seem to have in common :) [hint it's NOT being white]Though your immediate vitriol and anger do illustrate a lot of the underlying subtext that I was alluding to above.
 
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RUSF18 said:
Hipple said:
Parrothead said:
ouch... 15K per inch..
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at a bare minimum I bet Randy would have had a more substantial fine according to this fine structure.Though I bet no one would want to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. :mellow:
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Holy #### that's a $1.8 million fine!
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Honestly that would be about the appropriate amount, as that would nearly approximate one of farve's game checks.

 
According to ESPN, Joseph R. Conway, one of Jenn Sterger's attorneys, blasted the NFL's ruling on Brett Favre in a statement released later Wednesday.

Translation: 'I want my damn money!!!'

 
NCPanthersFan said:
Hipple said:
Parrothead said:
ouch... 15K per inch..
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at a bare minimum I bet Randy would have had a more substantial fine according to this fine structure.Though I bet no one would want to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. :thumbup:
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Dude don't blow all of your other good posts on this site reciting this crap. It is a sure fire way to get :blocked: I like what you typically have to say but this just seems like an example of you wanting to hear yourself talk. Get over it already.
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don't worry- (I've heard) that you don't need to hit bottom, just need to hammer the hell out of the sides.. you'll be ok...lighten up francis :unsure:

 
Sorry, I think the whole thing is a croc.

I think the NFL is protecting Favre and trying to save face at the same time. As someone mentioned earlier, $50k to Favre is absolutely nothing. Not even a drop in the bucket to him. That isn't even equivalent to the NFL slapping him on the wrist. For "not cooperating"? If they felt that way, they should have told him, "You either cooperate, or you will not be allowed to play the rest the this year and beyond until you do, and you will do so without pay." Now THAT would have been a strong statement by the league to the players that it does not condone lack of cooperation. It's not saying he's "guilty" or "not guilty" but lack of cooperation for something this serious should not be tolerated. I don't care if it's Brett Favre or the Mr. Irrelevant of the 2010 draft class.

My other beef with this whole situation is how long it took them to "investigate." How in the world could they not have gotten to the bottom of this faster than they did? This has been in the news for... 3 months? 4 months? Longer? They've investigated other incidents, larger and smaller than this, and come to decisions a lot faster. It just stinks like the NFL was dragging this "investigation" out so that they didn't have to suspend Favre and tarnish his reputation. And with Favre stating a few weeks back that he didn't intend on coming back, it helped the league make that decision. They should have suspended him for the last game at least, symbolic or not.

The amount is a joke. Players get fined that amount for head-to-head shots on the field. It is hardly worth collecting from someone like Favre.

The reasoning is a joke.

The length of time it took is a joke.

 
Sinrman said:
It just stinks like the NFL was dragging this "investigation" out so that they didn't have to suspend Favre and tarnish his reputation. And with Favre stating a few weeks back that he didn't intend on coming back, it helped the league make that decision. They should have suspended him for the last game at least, symbolic or not.The amount is a joke. Players get fined that amount for head-to-head shots on the field. It is hardly worth collecting from someone like Favre.The reasoning is a joke.The length of time it took is a joke.
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Flip it out one last time during your last game, Favre. It would be a great last dash effort to get some attention that you so badly want. Just take it out on the field and start dancing around before the snap. :slap:

 
Goodell is a complete joke. The personal conduct policy applies to different players different ways. I know alot of people are over this whole story and don't really care what happens to Favre but aren't more people

outraged at the way Goodell makes up the rules as he goes and has nobody policing him?

 
HughHoney said:
Goodell is a complete joke. The personal conduct policy applies to different players different ways. I know alot of people are over this whole story and don't really care what happens to Favre but aren't more peopleoutraged at the way Goodell makes up the rules as he goes and has nobody policing him?
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