Favre to compete for starting job? (1 Viewer)

[bcr8f]

They're too busy arguing in the other thread to notice.

Negotiations dead; Favre to compete for starting job

By Tom Silverstein

Sunday, Aug 3 2008, 03:09 PM

Green Bay -- The Green Bay Packers are through negotiating with quarterback Brett Favre on a marketing deal and they are anticipating him reporting for training camp Monday and being on the field as soon as he passes his physical, a Packers source said.

Another source close to the club, said that the Packers have agreed to allow Favre to compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job and he won't necessarily be the backup this season. Trade talks with Favre have not advanced and coach Mike McCarthy is expected to come up with a plan that will split the practice repetitions with Rodgers.

The Packers released this statement from president Mark Murphy:

"Sixteen years after Brett Favre came to the Packers, he is returning for a seventeenth season. He has had a great career with our organization and although we built this year around the assumption that Brett meant what he said about retiring, Brett is coming back. We will welcome him back and turn this situation to our advantage.

"Frankly, Brett's change of mind put us in a very difficult spot. We now will revise many actions and assumptions about our long-term future, all predicated on Brett's decision last March to retire. As a result of his decision, we invested considerably in a new and different future without Brett and we were obviously moving in that direction. That's why this wasn't easy. Having crossed the Rubicon once when Brett decided to retire, it's very difficult to reorient our plans and cross it again in the opposite direction - but we'll put this to our advantage.

"Brett will be in camp tomorrow. Although there has been uncertainty regarding Brett's return, Ted Thompson and Coach McCarthy had previously discussed this and have had a plan in place. Coach McCarthy will talk to the team and the quarterbacks about the plan moving forward, and after he has done that we will share it publicly.

"No matter what, I look forward to another successful season for the Packers and our fans. This has been a tough situation, but the Packers will make the most of it."

McCarthy is expected to address the quaerterback situation after the scrimmage tonight.

 

[sho nuff]

Possibly...if that source is to be believed at this point.

I will believe it, especially in this situation, when I hear it from McCarthy.

 

[FavreCo]

Damn right he is. FAVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[massraider]

I know I should be completely sick of this story, but it is so fascinating.

That's not sarcasm, this story is great, it's like a soap opera. For guys.

 

[sho nuff]

I know I should be completely sick of this story, but it is so fascinating.



That's not sarcasm, this story is great, it's like a soap opera. For guys.

That might be the best way I have heard this thing described.And like when my wife watched soaps...she would say how stupid they were...yet keep watching.

Its like an accident on the highway...no matter how much you say you will not look...you end up looking.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I have tried and tried to not get into these threads other than to just read the public opinion but what do the Pack do with Rodgers at this point? Favre will win the starting job in camp, no question in my mind that the players would want him to start, some came out and said it. Do you let Favre go out and start until he has one of those 2-3 interception at crucial moments and then insert Rodgers?

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...I understand that train of though but then again they went and drafted their supposive QB2 for this year...why not go get a vet if al they are doing is carrying a clipbard for Aaron Rodgers, and if he bombs you start over. The Pack go and draft Brohm in round 2...not sure what to make of it all. Maybe they should ship Rodgers somewhere...sure someone will pony up a 2nd or 3rd for him...but they could be trading away an NFL star.

Very weird situation, and I like others am just fascinated by it more than anything.

 

[sho nuff]

I have tried and tried to not get into these threads other than to just read the public opinion but what do the Pack do with Rodgers at this point? Favre will win the starting job in camp, no question in my mind that the players would want him to start, some came out and said it. Do you let Favre go out and start until he has one of those 2-3 interception at crucial moments and then insert Rodgers?Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...I understand that train of though but then again they went and drafted their supposive QB2 for this year...why not go get a vet if al they are doing is carrying a clipbard for Aaron Rodgers, and if he bombs you start over. The Pack go and draft Brohm in round 2...not sure what to make of it all. Maybe they should ship Rodgers somewhere...sure someone will pony up a 2nd or 3rd for him...but they could be trading away an NFL star. Very weird situation, and I like others am just fascinated by it more than anything.

Hard to trade him too...because even as much as Favre has been the ironman...its the NFL and he could end up hurt.Then they are stuck with Brohm instead of Rodgers being able to step right in.

 

[ashlarx]

Favre just flew up the draftboard. 30+ TD potential, good WRs and plenty motivated = Top 5 QB, easy. And yes, he will beat out Rodgers if there is any doubt.

 

[scott72]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

 

[sjacksonfan]

Favre just flew up the draftboard. 30+ TD potential, good WRs and plenty motivated = Top 5 QB, easy. And yes, he will beat out Rodgers if there is any doubt.

I don't believe there's a chance in hell they give him the job.

 

[sho nuff]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

 

[vamphyri]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.

I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.

I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

Contract details

 

[AtomicDogg97]

If (when) Favres wins the job, is he a top 10 quarterback? Top 5?

 

[massraider]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

Aren't 4 year deals almost unheard of for 1st rounders?

 

[vikingdave]

Who here actually believe this?

 

[sho nuff]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.

I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.

I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

Contract details

:whoosh: This begs the question of why are several radio shows, posters here, and articles trying to claim he is a free agent after this year?

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

I know I should be completely sick of this story, but it is so fascinating.



That's not sarcasm, this story is great, it's like a soap opera. For guys.

That might be the best way I have heard this thing described.And like when my wife watched soaps...she would say how stupid they were...yet keep watching.

Its like an accident on the highway...no matter how much you say you will not look...you end up looking.

count me in for the Favre nielsen ratings. I normally hate stories like these as i'm typically more interested in the football details and not the soap opera stuff. but i cant get enough of this 3 ring circus. :whoosh:

 

[FavreCo]

Who here actually believe this?

:whoosh: Everyone but you.

 

[ookook]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.

I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.

I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

Contract details

:whoosh: This begs the question of why are several radio shows, posters here, and articles trying to claim he is a free agent after this year?

Suppose this rumor a bout competing is true for a moment. Now suppose Favre might be able to win the job in a competition.How does the strategy of the FO make ANY sense then? I am bewildered.

A difference between Murphey and Thompson? I am now just lost. If you were willing to let him compete why discourage it so much?

Someone smarter than I am help me follow the logic of the Packers so far? But not the "TT wanted someone he was sure was committed", please.

 

[Donnybrook]

It is smart move by the Packers to trade him after training camp especially if they plan to trade him to a division rival. If the Vikings are the trading partner, they shouldn’t trade him until after week 1.

 

[sho nuff]

Rodgers is an UFA at the end of this year so the Pack need to know what they have...

No he's not. Signed through 2009.

I have asked before.Does anyone have any article of substance about his contract.

I first read he had a 5 year deal when he was drafted...but have heard all over the place that he deal is up after this year.

I have searched but found nothing of substance as far as the details of his contract.

Contract details

This begs the question of why are several radio shows, posters here, and articles trying to claim he is a free agent after this year?

Suppose this rumor a bout competing is true for a moment. Now suppose Favre might be able to win the job in a competition.How does the strategy of the FO make ANY sense then? I am bewildered.

A difference between Murphey and Thompson? I am now just lost. If you were willing to let him compete why discourage it so much?

Someone smarter than I am help me follow the logic of the Packers so far? But not the "TT wanted someone he was sure was committed", please.

Because they thought they could get him to back down...and realize its either this...or let him go to Minny?Perhaps they have talked to Rodgers and Rodgers said bring it on...if I can't beat him out I don't deserve to start? I don't know.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

 

[sho nuff]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

Agreed...thus far, he has handled this thing very well.I hope he comes out and has that bring it on attitude and goes out there really pushing it as much as he can.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009? If they "F" him this year, even if Favre retires again after this year I bet Rodgers still leaves whether he's the starter in 2009 or not, simply for the reason of 2008.

 

[sho nuff]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Depends how the coaching staff has handled it.The whole situation had locker room division all over it.I would think the players would prefer the two compete for the job and let the best man win.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Depends how the coaching staff has handled it.The whole situation had locker room division all over it.I would think the players would prefer the two compete for the job and let the best man win.

It's a stacked deck and you know it.

 

[Irish]

Rodgers will be the starting qb to start the season.

 

[sho nuff]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Depends how the coaching staff has handled it.The whole situation had locker room division all over it.I would think the players would prefer the two compete for the job and let the best man win.

It's a stacked deck and you know it.

How is it different than if Favre were the backup?Or traded?IMO, those two situations would have made it much worse...at least the first one.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high. I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Rodgers will be the starting qb to start the season.

Having Favre on the bench isn't fair to Rodgers no matter how you look at it. When the crowd starts chanting Favre after the first bad game from Rodgers you will get the picture. Is that fair to Rodgers? They are hardly setting him up for success.

 

[sho nuff]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high. I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I don't like moving Rodgers before the start of this year.What if Favre finally does have that big injury? Ready to go with Brohm?

 

[vikingdave]

Who here actually believe this?

Everyone but you.

So after doing everything in their power to keep him away and officially naming Rodgers the starter last week everything will go back to being all honky dorey and lets move on...gotcha...Favre will no be on the opening day roster...

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high. I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I wouldn't bank on Brohm being that good. I've already stated I think he was overrated at Louisville, but that's just my opinion and I'll leave it at that. Throwing Rodgers away so Farve hero worshipers can have him another year is stupid. I acutally think Rodgers gives the Packers a better chance to win now over Farve. I know most disagree and that's ok too.

 

[massraider]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009? If they "F" him this year, even if Favre retires again after this year I bet Rodgers still leaves whether he's the starter in 2009 or not, simply for the reason of 2008.

Two years is a lot of time. You see no way that Rodgers could start in 09, and sign a new deal?And Favre this year gives a 13-3 team from last year the best shot at winning a Super Bowl. You don't say no to that, just because you are worried you may lose your unproven backup two years from now.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high. I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I don't like moving Rodgers before the start of this year.What if Favre finally does have that big injury? Ready to go with Brohm?

I don't believe Rodgers will be traded. I'm just tossing that out there as an option. What I don't understand is this need to coddle Rodgers. He seems like a pretty confident guy. Some might contend he's arrogant given some of the comments he's made this summer. He seems to believe he's a pretty darn good NFL QB. So why do people feel the need to coddle him? Let him go on the field and prove it.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high.

I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I don't like moving Rodgers before the start of this year.What if Favre finally does have that big injury? Ready to go with Brohm?

I don't believe Rodgers will be traded. I'm just tossing that out there as an option. What I don't understand is this need to coddle Rodgers. He seems like a pretty confident guy. Some might contend he's arrogant given some of the comments he's made this summer. He seems to believe he's a pretty darn good NFL QB. So why do people feel the need to coddle him? Let him go on the field and prove it.

I think it's Favre who is in need of coddling, not Rodgers.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high. I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I wouldn't bank on Brohm being that good. I've already stated I think he was overrated at Louisville, but that's just my opinion and I'll leave it at that. Throwing Rodgers away so Farve hero worshipers can have him another year is stupid.

What is the "Favre hero worshippers" crap you keep trotting out? I think trying to simplify this into some kind of Favre fan obsession is stupid. My only interest is the Packers do everything in their power to give them the best chance to win. I do not like the idea of putting lesser talent on the field when a better option is available - and this goes for ANY position on the team. I have zero problems with Rodgers starting if he's the best man for the job. I just don't understand this irrational fear (it sure seems to me to be an irrational fear) of letting him prove it in camp.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high.

I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I wouldn't bank on Brohm being that good. I've already stated I think he was overrated at Louisville, but that's just my opinion and I'll leave it at that. Throwing Rodgers away so Farve hero worshipers can have him another year is stupid.

What is the "Favre hero worshippers" crap you keep trotting out? I think trying to simplify this into some kind of Favre fan obsession is stupid. My only interest is the Packers do everything in their power to give them the best chance to win. I do not like the idea of putting lesser talent on the field when a better option is available - and this goes for ANY position on the team. I have zero problems with Rodgers starting if he's the best man for the job. I just don't understand this irrational fear (it sure seems to me to be an irrational fear) of letting him prove it in camp.

Because of what it would do to Joe Montana if he were in the same shoes as Rodgers, and that's the possibility of ruining him. Add that to the controversy it WILL cause in the locker room and you have a recipe for disaster unless they DO WIN right away. Either way, Rodgers will remember the treatment and leave when he can.Edited to add that some could agrue that Steve Young had to wait his turn and it worked out well for San Fran. However, they did have to trade Joe, and they didn't promise the job to Young and then bring Montana back in to compete with Young.

 

[PranksterJD]

It is smart move by the Packers to trade him after training camp especially if they plan to trade him to a division rival. If the Vikings are the trading partner, they shouldn’t trade him until after week 1.

Dirty and low, but definitely smart. The only real issue is that Favre with a vanilla playbook is probably still an improvement over Jackson or the Chicago carousel."Hey Bernard.... run real fast, THAT way.""Yo Sidney, get in that corner and jump real high."/playbook

 

[Phurfur]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

I think Favre has already doomed this season for GB. Because of that I hope Favre starts so he can clean up his own mess, I don't think it would be fair to expect Rodgers to do it.

 

[packersfan]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high.

I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I wouldn't bank on Brohm being that good. I've already stated I think he was overrated at Louisville, but that's just my opinion and I'll leave it at that. Throwing Rodgers away so Farve hero worshipers can have him another year is stupid.

What is the "Favre hero worshippers" crap you keep trotting out? I think trying to simplify this into some kind of Favre fan obsession is stupid. My only interest is the Packers do everything in their power to give them the best chance to win. I do not like the idea of putting lesser talent on the field when a better option is available - and this goes for ANY position on the team. I have zero problems with Rodgers starting if he's the best man for the job. I just don't understand this irrational fear (it sure seems to me to be an irrational fear) of letting him prove it in camp.

Because of what it would do to Joe Montana if he were in the same shoes as Rodgers, and that's the possibility of ruining him. Add that to the controversy it WILL cause in the locker room and you have a recipe for disaster unless they DO WIN right away. Either way, Rodgers will remember the treatment and leave when he can.

Are you comparing Aaron Rodgers to Joe Montana?If the team loses, Rodgers was likely going to be getting plenty of heat anyway even if Favre wasn't around. So there would be controversy of some nature. That's unavoidable if you go from one game away from the Super Bowl to a loser.

And I don't see how Rodgers is being treated badly. If he's so damn good, let him prove it on the field. Why should players throughout the history of the NFL be asked to compete for a starting job but Aaron Rodgers shouldn't be? What is this irrational fear people have of simply saying that he should win the competition by earning it and not by having it handed to him?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Are you comparing Aaron Rodgers to Joe Montana?

Read my edited post in post #40.

 

[Irish]

Rodgers will be the starting qb to start the season.

Having Favre on the bench isn't fair to Rodgers no matter how you look at it. When the crowd starts chanting Favre after the first bad game from Rodgers you will get the picture. Is that fair to Rodgers? They are hardly setting him up for success.

Rodgers will be the starter when they break camp. At that time it will be up to Favre whether he wants to be the backup qb for the season. My hunch is that his ego will not be able to take it and he will retire once again. I believe that Rodgers is the best qb right now for this Packers team. They have a very good defense and a very good running game and they just need a qb who will not take gambles and turn the ball over at critical times in the game. I believe that if Favre is named the starter then it sends the wrong message to the rest of the team. The message will be that all the OTA and minicamps don't mean anything and the coaching staff cannot be trusted because they go back on their word. This all adds up to Rodgers being the starter to start the season IMHO.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Rodgers will be the starting qb to start the season.

Having Favre on the bench isn't fair to Rodgers no matter how you look at it. When the crowd starts chanting Favre after the first bad game from Rodgers you will get the picture. Is that fair to Rodgers? They are hardly setting him up for success.

Rodgers will be the starter when they break camp. At that time it will be up to Favre whether he wants to be the backup qb for the season. My hunch is that his ego will not be able to take it and he will retire once again. I believe that Rodgers is the best qb right now for this Packers team. They have a very good defense and a very good running game and they just need a qb who will not take gambles and turn the ball over at critical times in the game. I believe that if Favre is named the starter then it sends the wrong message to the rest of the team. The message will be that all the OTA and minicamps don't mean anything and the coaching staff cannot be trusted because they go back on their word. This all adds up to Rodgers being the starter to start the season IMHO.

Well said

 

[Irish]

If this report is true - and I continue to hope it is given how it's the only intelligent decision to make in my opinion - I think the Packers will learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers. And this is also good because if he's going to be the QB of the future then he'll need to show he can hold up under extreme pressure. This will be an excellent first opportunity for him to show he can.

This has locker room division written all over it. If you think that won't have an affect on the season.....well...., there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I won't try.

Winning has a way of calming locker room issues. I don't deny the possibility of some siding with Favre and some siding with Rodgers. I'd say there's a 100% chance that will happen. However, if the team is winning, your best players shouldn't care who is starting at QB. If they do, then those aren't the guys you want on your team anyway. The only way I see a QB competition becoming a problem is if the team is losing with one while the other is on the bench.

....and Packer fans are OK with losing Rodgers for the sake of another year with Favre? Because that's exactly what will happen as soon as Rodgers gets a chance to bolt. Isn't that after 2009?

I'm ok with Rodgers leaving if the Packers are doing everything possible to ensure success for this season. If Rodgers departs, my hope is Brohm would be ready to take over in time. If he isn't, then Thompson shouldn't have drafted him in the second round this year. The one option nobody is considering is trading Rodgers before the start of the season. Given his youth and contract, it's possible he would bring back a better return than Favre even if he isn't as good. More teams might be interested in trading for a young QB than a 38-year-old who doesn't know from day to day if he wants to play or not. And again, Brohm was a second-round draft pick. If the belief isn't that he can be a quality QB in a few years time he never should have been picked that high.

I realize this option will almost certainly never happen, but it's one which makes a lot of sense and helps the Packers not only win now but improve for the future as well.

I don't like moving Rodgers before the start of this year.What if Favre finally does have that big injury? Ready to go with Brohm?

I don't believe Rodgers will be traded. I'm just tossing that out there as an option. What I don't understand is this need to coddle Rodgers. He seems like a pretty confident guy. Some might contend he's arrogant given some of the comments he's made this summer. He seems to believe he's a pretty darn good NFL QB. So why do people feel the need to coddle him? Let him go on the field and prove it.

I think it's Favre who is in need of coddling, not Rodgers.

 

[2007browns]

i may be crazy, but he will win hands down, as i still think rodgers is a bum.

he hasn't started once, played sparingly, except for "that cowboys game" which they lost.

i think favre will be the starter for 2008, and if he goes to the vikings, the vikes will have a super bowl title within 3 years or less.

my prediction!

 

[packersfan]

Rodgers will be the starting qb to start the season.

Having Favre on the bench isn't fair to Rodgers no matter how you look at it. When the crowd starts chanting Favre after the first bad game from Rodgers you will get the picture. Is that fair to Rodgers? They are hardly setting him up for success.

Rodgers will be the starter when they break camp. At that time it will be up to Favre whether he wants to be the backup qb for the season. My hunch is that his ego will not be able to take it and he will retire once again. I believe that Rodgers is the best qb right now for this Packers team. They have a very good defense and a very good running game and they just need a qb who will not take gambles and turn the ball over at critical times in the game. I believe that if Favre is named the starter then it sends the wrong message to the rest of the team. The message will be that all the OTA and minicamps don't mean anything and the coaching staff cannot be trusted because they go back on their word. This all adds up to Rodgers being the starter to start the season IMHO.

The only message that should matter is the best players will earn starting jobs based on merit. If the message is you can spend the entire offseason working out for the team and you get to start even if you're not better than the guy you're competing with, this team has no chance to be any good going forward. You don't win playing inferior players. If Rodgers is the best man for the job, I think that'd be great. I simply don't see the problem in asking him to prove it on the field. If he can beat out Favre for the starting job, this team definitely will have a chance to be pretty darn good this year because they were pretty damn good last year with Favre as the QB.

 

[scott72]

If Rodgers' decision to leave is based on the situation with Favre this year, it would be very, very immature on his part. Rodgers' best chance to succeed will be in GB, in a system he will know very well and with a coach and GM who like him and will "owe him" in a way.

IF GB is his best opportunity, here is where he should stay, regardless of what happened this year with Favre. However, if Favre decides to return for yet another season, his best opportunity may not be in GB. But, a lot can happen between now and next Spring. They could easily sign him to an extension and "reward" him for sticking around with a nice signing bonus. Money makes everyone happy.