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FBG Mock Draft '25 - 2.07 QB Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss (34 Viewers)

1.04 The New England Patriots select Will Campbell OT LSU

The need to protect Maye has to be a priority. The short arms are a concern but his athleticism will make up for it.
Highest rated Tackle in the Draft, one of the only OL that's worth a Top 5-10 pick
You now have protection for Maye and that will lead to big things

WRs, RBs, TEs and QBs are only as good as their OL, that's one of my pet peeves with the Miami Dolphins, all the shiny toys but little to no blocking to exploit their talents
You can take avg talent at the skill spots and if you have a solid OL, you get far better production out of them.
Once in a while we start picking on RBs who leave yards on the field but these days that's not very common.
Most of the time if you build a Top 5-10 OL you get great production both running and passing the ball

It might not feel sexie to take an OL at No 4 but it's the right decision to further the development of Maye
I'm sure you would have gladly grabbed Travis Hunter if he fell to you at No 4
 
With pick 1.05, the Browns select Mason Graham. Let the controversy begin!
You slide from 2 down to 10, pick up 39 and 41
Move back up which we've seen teams like SF and Miami do in the last 4-5 years, you part with 41 but you keep 39 in your pocket and take the top DT at No 5
Yeah the controversy begins, I think you did pretty well since the trade market is going to be mostly nonexistent for many
You are directly involved in 2 trades, both of them were extremely fair both ways I think which makes them good examples for others to follow

Good job!
 
Eagles left tackle last year was a 7th rounder (Mailata). Their IOLs we're first and second rounders. Just continuing on my earlier point...

Edit: Although that's a bit muddy since Becton was drafted as a first round tackle. And Lane Johnson was a 1st too.
 
Eagles left tackle last year was a 7th rounder (Mailata). Their IOLs we're first and second rounders. Just continuing on my earlier point...

Edit: Although that's a bit muddy since Becton was drafted as a first round tackle. And Lane Johnson was a 1st too.

-Might have to drop your ad blocker there but it's a free link and you can instantly see what AD is discussing here
Just scroll down to the defense and look at what Philly is rolling out there

Almost every starter on Defense was drafted in the last 2-3+ years
Eventually they are going to lose a couple of them but they have exploited the Draft in a way you wish your team would take notes and copy
 
1.04 The New England Patriots select Will Campbell OT LSU

The need to protect Maye has to be a priority. The short arms are a concern but his athleticism will make up for it.
Unless the Browns or Giants go QB, I think the Patriots are in a really rough spot at #4. Its a tough position to be in. Campbell feels like the safest player at that spot, and that's sort of how Vrabel operates.
I don't disagree with this sentiment but I think they'd have to trade down or draft someone else.
He just had a high pick short armed top tackle move to G in his last draft. He's gotta be leery of it and he's always talking of "punch" and arm techniques giving me the impression he's one that means a lot too
 
I've said this for a few years now but the winning formula seems pretty simple these days - be big up front and fast everywhere else.

Oh, and have a top 5-ish QB.
You’re right, but are we calling hurts a top 5ish QB now?
I mean, I won’t argue if you do.
Leaning more to the "-ish" part, but yes.
Fair enough. The ish can do some heavy lifting, but your point I think is that the QB has to be able to lift the team when they need to, and not harm the team in key moments. There’s probably 10 QBs that fit the bill imo.

And now back to the regularly scheduled programming. ;)
 
I've said this for a few years now but the winning formula seems pretty simple these days - be big up front and fast everywhere else.

Oh, and have a top 5-ish QB.
Every starter on the Philly OL was drafted by the team
Another factor in Philly winning more titles is almost all of their starters minus AJB and Saquon were drafted
I feel like RBs and other skill positions like WR can be brought in as free agents when you have your house in order

Everything extends out from the Interior of both the OL and DL
Very few teams can go far with average or below average lines on both sides
 
With the 6th pick the Las Vegas Raiders select SHADEUR SANDERS.

Years of living in the QB wasteland drives this pick. His connection with Brady doesn’t hurt and the raiders get a QB in waiting on a rookie deal. With old man Carrol there’s some hope of containing the circus that will come with him.
That was who I thought the Browns were trading up for at #5.

I'm not a Sanders fan, but I wasn't a Nix fan either for many of the same reasons. Vegas is about as good a landing spot as there could be, as I think Sanders biggest strengths are going to be helped by having an excellent intermediate target (Bowers) and playing indoors.
 
With the 6th pick the Las Vegas Raiders select SHADEUR SANDERS.

Years of living in the QB wasteland drives this pick. His connection with Brady doesn’t hurt and the raiders get a QB in waiting on a rookie deal. With old man Carrol there’s some hope of containing the circus that will come with him.
If you think he's better than Anthony Richardson who the Colts took at No 4, if the answer is yes and it is for me, then you don't have to apologize for taking him 1 pick ahead of the Jets
Not sure where Sanders would stack up to last year's class.

My only question is with Geno coming in and playing for his old HC and talk of an extension or reworked contract, I'm not sure we see a lot of him in 2025
Outside of that, it's an excellent pick, doubt he was going to stick around for much longer
 
With the 6th pick the Las Vegas Raiders select SHADEUR SANDERS.

Years of living in the QB wasteland drives this pick. His connection with Brady doesn’t hurt and the raiders get a QB in waiting on a rookie deal. With old man Carrol there’s some hope of containing the circus that will come with him.
You're lucky there isn't a Division III punter with that name or you'd be very disappointed. (It's Shedeur!)

On second thought I think you are going to be disappointed regardless.
 
With the 6th pick the Las Vegas Raiders select SHADEUR SANDERS.

Years of living in the QB wasteland drives this pick. His connection with Brady doesn’t hurt and the raiders get a QB in waiting on a rookie deal. With old man Carrol there’s some hope of containing the circus that will come with him.
You're lucky there isn't a Division III punter with that name or you'd be very disappointed. (It's Shedeur!)

On second thought I think you are going to be disappointed regardless.
I wanted OT. It was too early. Others in the war room wanted sanders. There was more call for him than anyone else. 20 years of garbage qb play will do that.
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring trench need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ lbs. has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87 and solidifies a gaping hole at RT.

An arm length of 33.5” and a 4.91 forty cement his physical adequacy at a premium position, although questions about length are there at the present time. That said, he played over 2,100 snaps at Missouri at right tackle, allowing only 23 pressures out of 849 attempts the past two years. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.” Their current mock also sends him to the Jets at #7.

Unselected possibility Tyler Warren, often mocked to the Jets, plays a non-premium, slow-learning position and is not Brock Bowers, so the Jets pass and go for an OL. Jaxson Dart playing in a non-pro style offense coupled with Justin Fields’ signing causes just enough pause to pass on QB. Jets would have taken Shedeur Sanders in the first as a too-good-to-pass-up QB possibility, but the Raiders took care of that option.
 
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Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
 
With the 6th pick the Las Vegas Raiders select SHADEUR SANDERS.

Years of living in the QB wasteland drives this pick. His connection with Brady doesn’t hurt and the raiders get a QB in waiting on a rookie deal. With old man Carrol there’s some hope of containing the circus that will come with him.
You're lucky there isn't a Division III punter with that name or you'd be very disappointed. (It's Shedeur!)

On second thought I think you are going to be disappointed regardless.
I wanted OT. It was too early. Others in the war room wanted sanders. There was more call for him than anyone else. 20 years of garbage qb play will do that.
Yeah, I don't actually dislike the pick on value, but I am just personally bearish on Sanders. I don't think there's anything wrong with the pick.
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Tyler Warren plays non-premium, slow-learning position so Jets pass and go OL.
This was who I would have selected if doing this by myself
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Tyler Warren plays non-premium, slow-learning position so Jets pass and go OL.
This was who I would have selected if doing this by myself

And as I just noted, I would have taken Sanders if you didn’t (I figured you’d take Jeanty), but I’m happy with the pick regardless. I think Sanders is your dream pick, even with Geno. Good work by you and the Raider contingent. That’s solid value and he’s there for five years.
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Unselected possibility Tyler Warren, often mocked to Jets, plays non-premium, slow-learning position and is not Brock Bowers, so Jets pass and go OL. Jaxson Dart playing in non-pro style offense and Justin Fields’ signing causes just enough pause to pass on QB. Jets would have taken Shedeur Sanders in first as too-good-to-pass-up at seven, but Raiders took care of that.
Great explanation and I like all the names you brought up
Good job!
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
It's not taboo, but let the drafters figure it out. I mean, this is your show so do whatever you want. My own personal opinion is that this particular exercise doesn't need to be Mel Kiper'd on upcoming picks, but maybe others here like it.

Anyway, carry on and sorry for the detour.
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Tyler Warren plays non-premium, slow-learning position so Jets pass and go OL.
Seems like a logical move. Tight end has some depth this year and can be looked at later in the draft.
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
It's not taboo, but let the drafters figure it out. I mean, this is your show so do whatever you want. My own personal opinion is that this particular exercise doesn't need to be Mel Kiper'd on upcoming picks, but maybe others here like it.

Anyway, carry on and sorry for the detour.
Not at all, I respect your POV, you're right
I get excited when the picks start rolling in
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
It's not taboo, but let the drafters figure it out. I mean, this is your show so do whatever you want. My own personal opinion is that this particular exercise doesn't need to be Mel Kiper'd on upcoming picks, but maybe others here like it.

Anyway, carry on and sorry for the detour.
Not at all, I respect your POV, you're right
I get excited when the picks start rolling in
It is the offseason, most are itching for anything football related. Thank you for throwing this together, it provides some entertainment for the hungry fan.
 
Great explanation and I like all the names you brought up
Good job!

Thanks, MoP, and thanks for running the show. We shall see about pick 42 and where that leaves us. If I were fully present, I might have offered the Raiders something to move up, but that didn’t happen.

I didn’t do that because I am also trying to do partially what the Jets would do. With that in mind, I had Warren typed out and written up because he’s been mocked to the Jets so often, but I really don’t want him as a fan, so I split the raison d’etre for choosing and thankfully a guy rated ahead of him by the Ringer and Athletic was there, making the pick a very plausible one.
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Unselected possibility Tyler Warren, often mocked to Jets, plays non-premium, slow-learning position and is not Brock Bowers, so Jets pass and go OL. Jaxson Dart playing in non-pro style offense and Justin Fields’ signing causes just enough pause to pass on QB. Jets would have taken Shedeur Sanders in first as too-good-to-pass-up at seven, but Raiders took care of that.
Membou was the guy I wanted for SF but not willing to pay the chart price to move up.

Hoping Jeanty falls to 11 now. Such an important part of the SF offense and CMC is getting up there.
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
It's not taboo, but let the drafters figure it out. I mean, this is your show so do whatever you want. My own personal opinion is that this particular exercise doesn't need to be Mel Kiper'd on upcoming picks, but maybe others here like it.

Anyway, carry on and sorry for the detour.
I wanted to shift this back to Ward and Sanders and why they are somewhat dangerous picks

-For the Titans, I think it's the right move to take a QB because in general i don't believe they were as bad as 3-14.
I don't know if Ward instantly pushes them to a 7-8 win team but Levis made a lot of mistakes and i don't think the Titans are a 3-win team

If you contrast that to the Panthers when they took Bryce Young No 1 overall and parted with precious future draft capital then found themselves back at No 1 with nothing to show for it
So what if the Giants take Sanders at No 3 and Russ plus SS equals another 4-5 win season and they are in the running for a top QB next year, except they already sunk their investment into Sanders.

The Raiders would be an interesting team for Sanders for many reasons including the fact he wouldn't be pressured to start right away
The Raiders could easily say they won't be picking 6th again and wanted him for '26 and '27 vs '25.
Las Vegas, his dad is next door coaching Colorado, for Sanders it would feel like he's not going all that far away vs a bigger city like New York
There's a lot of positive signs if he were to land in Vegas, I'm not even talking about Brady and Carroll as mentors to help him transition
 
Great explanation and I like all the names you brought up
Good job!

Thanks, MoP, and thanks for running the show. We shall see about pick 42 and where that leaves us. If I were fully present, I might have offered the Raiders something to move up, but that didn’t happen.

I didn’t do that because I am also trying to do partially what the Jets would do. With that in mind, I had Warren typed out and written up because he’s been mocked to the Jets so often, but I really don’t want him as a fan, so I split the raison d’etre for choosing and thankfully a guy rated ahead of him by the Ringer and Athletic was there, making the pick a very plausible one.
I also am trying to do what I think the raiders will actually do.
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Unselected possibility Tyler Warren, often mocked to Jets, plays non-premium, slow-learning position and is not Brock Bowers, so Jets pass and go OL. Jaxson Dart playing in non-pro style offense and Justin Fields’ signing causes just enough pause to pass on QB. Jets would have taken Shedeur Sanders in first as too-good-to-pass-up at seven, but Raiders took care of that.
Membou was the guy I wanted for SF but not willing to pay the chart price to move up.

Hoping Jeanty falls to 11 now. Such an important part of the SF offense and CMC is getting up there.
Jedi-mind tricks now
:wink:
 
1.07 - New York Jets - Armand Membou - RT

Jets’ glaring need meets available physical freak. Membou, at 6’4”, 330+ has a 9.90 RAS, which puts him 16th out of 1501 OL since ‘87, and solidifies gaping hole at RT.

Arm length of 33.5” and 4.91 forty cement physical adequacy at premium position. According to the Athletic, “If Membou does fall to No. 7, it would be tough to pass on him.”

Unselected possibility Tyler Warren, often mocked to Jets, plays non-premium, slow-learning position and is not Brock Bowers, so Jets pass and go OL. Jaxson Dart playing in non-pro style offense and Justin Fields’ signing causes just enough pause to pass on QB. Jets would have taken Shedeur Sanders in first as too-good-to-pass-up at seven, but Raiders took care of that.
Membou was the guy I wanted for SF but not willing to pay the chart price to move up.

Hoping Jeanty falls to 11 now. Such an important part of the SF offense and CMC is getting up there.

Not sure the chart’s value (a third-round pick) moves the needle enough for me to move back to 11, so it’s too rich for you and not enough from my perspective. Funny and typical, no?

I would have thought about it for a second round-pick, whereupon I would have hoped Warren fell a few spots. I just wrote a long thing about Jeanty but deleted it so that things run their natural course.
 
Next 2 players that could have teams wanting to trade up IMHO...

QBs Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe
-It won't shock me to see these guys go somewhere in the 1st when the actual Draft hits end of this month.
Will that happen in this mock draft? I'm not sure but hare's a couple players with differing outlooks depending on who is discussing them.

I prefer them in the early 2nd for teams that passed on QB in the 1st like say the Giants. Would the Giants trade back up into the later part of the 1st to try and grab one of them?
The upside would be a QB with a 5th year option attached if the team decided to use it, always a plus with QBs vs other positions
All due respect, MoP, but would you maybe lay back a little on trying to guide this draft?
I understand, just curious now that Sanders is off the board where these next 2 will fall.
Recent mocks have had them moving up
Who knows butI'll stop posting Draft prospects if it helps, I didn't know it was taboo
It's not taboo, but let the drafters figure it out. I mean, this is your show so do whatever you want. My own personal opinion is that this particular exercise doesn't need to be Mel Kiper'd on upcoming picks, but maybe others here like it.

Anyway, carry on and sorry for the detour.
I wanted to shift this back to Ward and Sanders and why they are somewhat dangerous picks

-For the Titans, I think it's the right move to take a QB because in general i don't believe they were as bad as 3-14.
I don't know if Ward instantly pushes them to a 7-8 win team but Levis made a lot of mistakes and i don't think the Titans are a 3-win team

If you contrast that to the Panthers when they took Bryce Young No 1 overall and parted with precious future draft capital then found themselves back at No 1 with nothing to show for it
So what if the Giants take Sanders at No 3 and Russ plus SS equals another 4-5 win season and they are in the running for a top QB next year, except they already sunk their investment into Sanders.

The Raiders would be an interesting team for Sanders for many reasons including the fact he wouldn't be pressured to start right away
The Raiders could easily say they won't be picking 6th again and wanted him for '26 and '27 vs '25.
Las Vegas, his dad is next door coaching Colorado, for Sanders it would feel like he's not going all that far away vs a bigger city like New York
There's a lot of positive signs if he were to land in Vegas, I'm not even talking about Brady and Carroll as mentors to help him transition
On bolded, agree with both but especially Ward at #1 overall.

Obviously Titans need a QB and QB is the most important position in sports (yada, yada, yada) but is Ward worthy of the #1 pick overall and worth passing on a player like Travis Hunter? Personally, I don't think so. Would rather take the sure thing in this case. Not like last year where Caleb and Daniels were much better prospects.

I think Titans move the pick before draft day
 

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