Andy Dufresne
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QT used the 70mm format to prove that he could.
Yeah I tend to think he does things because he can or because it’s cool or stylish and not really with story or character in mind.QT used the 70mm format to prove that he could.
Was coming in here to post this. I asked myself wtf is this? Narration for dumb people who can’t follow along? I feel like it detracted from the suspense.As you would know, this drove me absolutely insane. There was a part in Act 4 with the same completely unnecessary voiceover.
Seemed very 1950s- the studio demanded narration be added because the audience isn’t smart enough.Was coming in here to post this. I asked myself wtf is this? Narration for dumb people who can’t follow along? I feel like it detracted from the suspense.
Awful. It could have been done much better, but whatever.Seemed very 1950s- the studio demanded narration be added because the audience isn’t smart enough.
All the time that goes into writing and for this movie they did several live reads with an audience because the script leaked and its shocking a better way wasn’t figured out.Awful. It could have been done much better, but whatever.
You just couldn't help yourself, could ya?I didn't hate H8 when I saw it I just didn't like it and felt it was a long form masturbation writ large for QT. It is getting to be painful to watch it again. Like, I can't do it for more than a few minutes because I know where everything is going and the "great dialogue" just isn't to me.
I could watch M7 over and over still to this day. It's just a great picture into the movie industry of the time, what made leading men in the time.... and it's fun. I think that is the problem with H8; it's not fun. Kill Bill was fun in many parts. Pulp and RD were non stop awesome for me. Most of his movies are fun or at least just great interactions with the characters that I just don't feel here, and I know on some level that isn't fair because this was a really good cast.
There is just too much QT and not enough movie if that makes sense. I don't know. If I have to watch this movie until the end I'm going to end up hating it almost as much as Castaway.
Same hereI've watched both now. I like Magnificent 7 better than Hateful Eight.
Seems like this would be a blowout if it was a poll.Same here
@KarmaPolice and I are taking turns picking them. I chose this pairing and he’s working on July. I’ve seen what he’s picking from and you should be excited about it.
Who wouldn't be excited about a Transformers double feature?@KarmaPolice and I are taking turns picking them. I chose this pairing and he’s working on July. I’ve seen what he’s picking from and you should be excited about it.
That’s probably the plan. We assume for a multitude of reasons that some months won’t work for some people. Even if they can watch one of the movies, it still could be fun to participate. More movies gives people more options and makes the conversation more interesting.Will it always be a double-feature? Some months that may be tougher than others.
All this, plus I am guessing a majority of time people will probably have seen one of the movies before anyway.That’s probably the plan. We assume for a multitude of reasons that some months won’t work for some people. Even if they can watch one of the movies, it still could be fun to participate. More movies gives people more options and makes the conversation more interesting.
Yes and some will rewatch but many won't. I wasn't sure at first, but now I agree with you that the double feature is the ideal approach.All this, plus I am guessing a majority of time people will probably have seen one of the movies before anyway.
I'd probably answer; Brenner, McQueen and the score of M7.What was the best performance between the films? Who was your favorite chartacter?
Leigh, McQueen and Yul for me. Good call on the score, that is clearly the star of the two films.I'd probably answer; Brenner, McQueen and the score of M7.
Score of H8 blew away score of M7.*I'd probably answer; Brenner, McQueen and the score of M7.
Agree H8 score is great but even if you don’t watch the movie, the Elmer Bernstein M7 score is worth a listen.Score of H8 blew away score of M7.*
*I haven't watched M7 and probably won't. But that H8 score was the highlight of the movie.
Full credit but that extended version of H8 won't earn you any extra credit either.Ok, I have always been a "last minute" kinda guy on my assignments.
I am going to do the Netflix extended H8 today/tonight. M7 will follow.
I will have it all fresh and ready in me head fer Monday.
So @Ilov80s - do you deduct for last minute cramming over proper preparation?
I'd rate Jennifer Jason Leigh's performance as the best of both movies. She's such a chameleon and can handle the broadest range of roles, and she brought it all to bear in H8.What was the best performance between the films? Who was your favorite chartacter?
For M7 I would say the entire cast other then Robert Vaughn. I'm not sure it is Vaughn's fault, it may have been the director or the writing. I kept waiting for some big reveal due to the way he was always acting so mysterious but nothing really happened. The standouts for me were Bronson and Coburn. While I think Brynner and McQueen were excellent I also feel they were doing Brynner and McQueen. Not much of an acting reach but it was good. They are like AC/DC, we know all the tunes are going to be the same but those tunes are awesome.What was the best performance between the films? Who was your favorite chartacter?
Zoes don't get cut from the team. Ever.Zoe Bell who payed six horse Judy was abysmal and should have been cut from the film.
Interesting that your view of Vaughn was so much different than mine.I'd rate Jennifer Jason Leigh's performance as the best of both movies. She's such a chameleon and can handle the broadest range of roles, and she brought it all to bear in H8.
My favorite character, on the other hand, probably would be Robert Vaughn's in M7, though he didn't do much in the role, if that makes sense. I think I understand what they were going for with the character and that's why Vaughn was cast; however, I think another actor around his age, Dennis Hopper, probably would have stolen the show if he had been cast in that role.
The pairing of these movies created a dichotomy for me; I preferred everything about M7 over H8 except the acting, where I would give the H8 cast a collective edge with regards to performing their roles, though I appreciate what the M7 actors brought to theirs, especially Coburn. Too bad he wasn't in his prime when they made The Terminator. Even though that role didn't require a lot of range, I think Coburn more menacing and scary than Arnold was.
That depends on a a few thingsZoe's don't get cut from the team. Ever.
Hopefully it doesn't hinge on cheeky apostrophes that aren't supposed to be there. Plural, rock, it's plural.That depends on a a few things
God willingHopefully it doesn't hinge on cheeky apostrophes that aren't supposed to be there. Plural, rock, it's plural.
I liked the H8 score, but I thought QT did not use it right. It felt a bit under-used to me, and some of QT's other music choices seemed to detract from it. It felt like he was having trouble picking a lane.Score of H8 blew away score of M7.*
*I haven't watched M7 and probably won't. But that H8 score was the highlight of the movie.
Funny. I was going to say almost the same exact thing. They didn't give him much screen time but RV did a very good job with what he had available to him.I'd rate Jennifer Jason Leigh's performance as the best of both movies. She's such a chameleon and can handle the broadest range of roles, and she brought it all to bear in H8.
My favorite character, on the other hand, probably would be Robert Vaughn's in M7, though he didn't do much in the role, if that makes sense. I think I understand what they were going for with the character and that's why Vaughn was cast; however, I think another actor around his age, Dennis Hopper, probably would have stolen the show if he had been cast in that role.
The pairing of these movies created a dichotomy for me; I preferred everything about M7 over H8 except the acting, where I would give the H8 cast a collective edge with regards to performing their roles, though I appreciate what the M7 actors brought to theirs, especially Coburn. Too bad he wasn't in his prime when they made The Terminator. Even though that role didn't require a lot of range, I think Coburn more menacing and scary than Arnold was.
Yeah supposedly QT didn’t know about it and Kurt Russell was never told that it was an antique guitar that needed to be switched out for a prop guitar. I find that hard to believe.Agree with JJL as best performance.
In reading the Wiki on the movie, I learned (hopefully not a spoiler, but more of an Easter egg) that Kurt Russell's character was not supposed to smash the guitar that he smashed, as it was an antique guitar on loan from a museum. JJL gives an off-camera look when she screams "no, no, no", so you can tell that was not supposed to happen. I guess it was good to get a genuine reaction movie-wise; feel bad for losing that piece of history though.
I could see Russell being out of the loop, but I find Tarantino particularly hard to believe, as he had to have been involved in securing the loan. And he had to know when to cut. I was reading an article about QT snickering about it after it happened, which makes it hard to seem like a mistake.Yeah supposedly QT didn’t know about it and Kurt Russell was never told that it was an antique guitar that needed to be switched out for a prop guitar. I find that hard to believe.
Exactly. I can’t stand him.I could see Russell being out of the loop, but I find Tarantino particularly hard to believe, as he had to have been involved in securing the loan. And he had to know when to cut. I was reading an article about QT snickering about it after it happened, which makes it hard to seem like a mistake.
Interesting that your view of Vaughn was so much different than mine.
Perhaps I'm reading the character wrong.Funny. I was going to say almost the same exact thing. They didn't give him much screen time but RV did a very good job with what he had available to him.
I guess this really hinges on whether or not I understood exactly what his character was supposed to be. If it was supposed to go in the direction I'm assuming, I didn't see enough of it, neither from the actor nor exposition in the story. That's why I thought of Dennis Hopper, as he seemed more able to do more with less. TBH, I'm not very familiar with Robert Vaugh's resume, so perhaps the audience would have recognized better what he was doing.To me, it seems like Vaughn’s character development may have been a casualty of editing, but I can’t confirm that. They were going somewhere with him and then it just fizzled out.
I think this was one of his first movie roles so audiences wouldn’t have been too familiar with him.Perhaps I'm reading the character wrong.
I guess this really hinges on whether or not I understood exactly what his character was supposed to be. If it was supposed to go in the direction I'm assuming, I didn't see enough of it, neither from the actor nor exposition in the story. That's why I thought of Dennis Hopper, as he seemed more able to do more with less. TBH, I'm not very familiar with Robert Vaugh's resume, so perhaps the audience would have recognized better what he was doing.
You won't.OK. I made it through Hateful Eight. If it wasn't for this board and peer pressure, I probably would have tapped out after Chapter 3.
My main problem was with the pacing. Every scene lasted longer than it needed to. Someone like Howard Hawks could have shot a half hour TV show out of the script. I can't imagine the extended version.
I don't dislike Tarantino. I'll probably see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood on opening week. I appreciate his compulsion to entertain the audience and the latitude he provides for actors. But like most manics, he's prone to excess and Hateful Eight is too much.
Maybe I'll like it better in the morning.
Good thoughts on the themes there. Were they both new to you?I liked both movies, but preferred M7 by a significant margin.
To begin, I see similarities in the major themes of frontier justice and race. I see differences in how they are handled, which is not surprising considering 1960 vs. 2018.
I don't have time to go deeper now, but I wanted to get the ball rolling. I will add details later.
On the whole, I am very glad that I watched both; nice start for the Club.
Still figuring that out lol. I have a couple questions I’m going to throw out in a bit. We can now freely talk spoilers though.so, what's the drill here?
Thnx.Good thoughts on the themes there. Were they both new to you?
... I do think is accurate, but as a manic myself, this is part of his act I don't mind too much. I turned off Kill Bill mid movie and never tried KB 2 - so, this is still a tricky edge for me - but H8 worked with my tastes mostly.OK. I made it through Hateful Eight. If it wasn't for this board and peer pressure, I probably would have tapped out after Chapter 3.
My main problem was with the pacing. Every scene lasted longer than it needed to. Someone like Howard Hawks could have shot a half hour TV show out of the script. I can't imagine the extended version.
I don't dislike Tarantino. I'll probably see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood on opening week. I appreciate his compulsion to entertain the audience and the latitude he provides for actors. But like most manics, he's prone to excess and Hateful Eight is too much.
Maybe I'll like it better in the morning.
Gotta be the teach!Still figuring that out lol. I have a couple questions I’m going to throw out in a bit. We can now freely talk spoilers though.
It blew apart the only bright prospect of the entire film, that it might turn into an Agatha Christie in gore over solving the poisoneer/JJL accomplice, which would have been a good, if not saving, gadgetSo besides the random narration which we all seem to agree we hated, what did people think of the Channing Tatum twist in H8?