skol asylum
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Thanks again for all the work in running this.
I guess im ready for another let down with the next song. Sock it to me.
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FBG'S TOP 81 LED ZEPPELIN SONGS: #1 - When The Levee Breaks from Led Zeppelin IV (1971) (1 Viewer)
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I guess im ready for another let down with the next song. Sock it to me.
Dr. Octopus
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skol asylum
Footballguy
Trick question. KISS has no best songs. One of the most overrated bands of all time.
I do like the Eagles of Death Metal's cover of God of Thunder.
Binky The Doormat
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Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
I am really digging all of the interesting numbers that David is coming up with - but yeah, completely agree on this.
I would be up for ranking every song off all the studio albums. That would be more accurate but takes a lot more work. It’s tough to judge with just the top 25 because we have no clue if a song was 26th or 62nd on a list. Don’t get me wrong, I am enjoying this and appreciate the hard work by anarchy.
Not sure how much we can take out of these rankings. Some admitted forgetting to include some great songs, others seem to favor short songs, others were biased towards albums, some don’t like the softer side of Zeppelin, others like the earlier stuff.
Personally, I like it all. Long, short, heavy, mellow,….except mediocre songs that get inflated in these rankings (Rock and Roll)
Not sure how much we can take out of these rankings. Some admitted forgetting to include some great songs, others seem to favor short songs, others were biased towards albums, some don’t like the softer side of Zeppelin, others like the earlier stuff.
Personally, I like it all. Long, short, heavy, mellow,….except mediocre songs that get inflated in these rankings (Rock and Roll)
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I get that there are different ways to skin a cat. Voting on and ranking just the albums is less interesting, IMO. Deconstructing the songs on the albums, voting on them, and then assessing how people voted is much more interesting. I get the "I like this entire album better" or "it's better than the sum of its parts" angle or "an album is meant to be listened to as a whole" argument.
It would make for a more accurate assessment if we all ranked all the LZ songs and then looked at the points from each album, as people would not have to fret over leaving any songs off a list. But very few people would want to rank that many songs. Even if we did do that and added up the points awarded to individual songs and added them up by album, people would still say the same thing. Even if the points they awarded showed something different, they would still say they would rank the individual albums completely differently.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I think the best way to do it is to take their best 100 songs (and only 100) and tell people to rank them from 1-100. That would include the regular album tracks, the songs without a home, the bonus tracks, and a handful of live songs that should have been on an album but weren't. But we wouldn't get 62 lists. We'd be lucky to get 10. That's why I opted for the pick 25 songs approach. Better to have more people with fewer songs than fewer people and way more songs. Way more people care about the Top 25 than the Bottom 25.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I doubt it could have been that bad...
Look, we all have different musical tastes, even within the confines of a single band's discography. I like what I like, and am not bothered if its not the same as someone else!
A little banter is good for the soul.
skol asylum
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I'd guess that some albums are better than or worse than the sum of their parts, especially back when there was more of a focus on the album vs single song experience.(digital/streaming)
FairWarning
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beer 30
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This is the kind stuff @Anarchy99 is looking for, so wrong.
Really enjoying learning so much about a band I thought I knew a lot about. Turns out I knew nothing Jon Snow. It also continually amazes me how deep their catalog is. I don't think I really appreciated it until this thread illuminated how hard it is to pick just 25. Amazing stuff, thanks for all the hard work, not only @Anarchy99 but everyone that is adding vignettes along the way.
AAABatteries
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MAC_32
Footballguy
It's not 'awful,' but just as an anecdotal example below is my distribution:
IV- 109 pts (6 songs)
I- 77 pts (4 songs)
III- 48 points (4 songs)
PG- 39 pts (3 songs)
HOTH- 24 pts (3 songs)
II- 18 points (2 songs)
Misc - 10 points (2 songs)
Expand that to say...40 songs and it becomes this:
IV- 199 pts (still 6 songs)
PG- 146 pts (9 songs)
I- 137 pts (still 4 songs)
III- 129 pts (7 songs)
HOTH- 100 pts (5 songs)
II- 62 pts (5 songs)
Misc- 40 pts (still 2 songs)
Presence- 4 pts (1 song)
Door- 3 pts (1 song)
MAC_32
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It's like The Rain Song for the bud swilling mullet set if it was done by The Archies while they are high on meth.
Anarchy99
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Since we started talk of flinging poo, that immediately got me thinking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I could have saved this for a writeup, but it probably merits a standalone blurb.
Back when Python tried to produce and release Holy Grail, they got a hard pass from film studios. The band of coconut clanging merry men then sought alternative solutions. Some people may already know, others may not, that Zeppelin ended up in the alternative solutions category.
Troupe member Eric Idle last year finally tweeted out who contributed what to get the Grail put together and released.
Python parlayed the money they raised for The Holy Grail into $5 million at the box office (including some of my money, as I actually saw it in the theater when it came out). That fetched them 12.5 times the production cost. Since then, they have generated close to $50 million in DVD sales of the film.
That paled in comparison to the musical adaptation of the film called Spamalot. The stage play took in a staggering $175 million that set box office records on its initial Broadway run starting in 2004 (that's a huge chunk of change for a play). Things appear to have come full circle, as a film version of Spamalot is currently under production.
I have no idea if whatever business entity that LZ used to help finance the Grail got dibs on future earnings for additional adaptations or not. If they did, that would have turned out to be a great investment (on what has generated close to $250 million by now).
Back when Python tried to produce and release Holy Grail, they got a hard pass from film studios. The band of coconut clanging merry men then sought alternative solutions. Some people may already know, others may not, that Zeppelin ended up in the alternative solutions category.
Troupe member Eric Idle last year finally tweeted out who contributed what to get the Grail put together and released.
When John Cleese & Friends came a-knockin', Zeppelin had just released HOTH and had begun work on PG. The band kicked in about 20% of the cost to get Holy Grail made. Of course, the amount they contributed was likely a mere pittance to them and little more than meal money by that point.
Python parlayed the money they raised for The Holy Grail into $5 million at the box office (including some of my money, as I actually saw it in the theater when it came out). That fetched them 12.5 times the production cost. Since then, they have generated close to $50 million in DVD sales of the film.
That paled in comparison to the musical adaptation of the film called Spamalot. The stage play took in a staggering $175 million that set box office records on its initial Broadway run starting in 2004 (that's a huge chunk of change for a play). Things appear to have come full circle, as a film version of Spamalot is currently under production.
I have no idea if whatever business entity that LZ used to help finance the Grail got dibs on future earnings for additional adaptations or not. If they did, that would have turned out to be a great investment (on what has generated close to $250 million by now).
UncleZen
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Trust me, if I could virtually fling a chair at you, I would have already with some of these reveals. Yes, I'm in favor of shooting the messenger!
Anarchy99
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Pip's Invitation
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Zegras11
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Conform or be cast out. In the basement bars. In the backs of cars. Be cool or be cast out. Oh wait . . . I thought this was the Rush ranking thread. Carry on, my mistake.
fatguyinalittlecoat
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Predicting next song is Since I’ve Been Loving You.
Anarchy99
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zamboni
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
Trying to figure out if I have enough energy left today for the next song to properly muster up the fire and brimstone needed to chastise the musically illiterate and morally bankrupt. I may need a good night's sleep to get a full head of steam before I start taking names and kicking major a$$. Unlike in the movies, the names will not be changed to protect the innocent, nor will I say that no animals were harmed in the making of this episode. I will be naming names and calling people out. Because I can do that and you jamokes can't. Decisions, decisions . . . All I know is all that Seal Team training will come in handy. There will be No Quarter.
So whatever you're thinking, you better think again. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to head down there, and I will rain down an ungodly firestorm upon you. You're gonna have to call the United Nations and get a binding resolution to keep me from destroying you. I am talking scorched earth! I will massacre you! (Admittedly, quoting Les Grossman without all the swearing doesn't carry the same impact.)
So whatever you're thinking, you better think again. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to head down there, and I will rain down an ungodly firestorm upon you. You're gonna have to call the United Nations and get a binding resolution to keep me from destroying you. I am talking scorched earth! I will massacre you! (Admittedly, quoting Les Grossman without all the swearing doesn't carry the same impact.)
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'll grant you a lot of great Grants in history.
Peter Grant
Bud Grant
Lou Grant
Ulysses S. Grant
Ron Popeil
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zamboni
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AAABatteries
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AAABatteries
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
This is true. Let’s be clear though. The Stones have some great songs that I still love after many decades but they don’t have that many good songs. LZ blows them away.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
1. It seems weird that’s it’s even still around to me. I didn’t realize it was so highly regarded.
2. It seems like the kind of song that I imagine Anarchy99 would like.
3. It clearly isn’t nearly as good a song as Rock and Roll so we know that one’s not next.
The beauty of this thread, and this rant - I have no idea if the next song is ranked too high, or too low....
Whatever it is - its in my top-25, so it has to be a good song!
fatguyinalittlecoat
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AAABatteries
Footballguy
It and R&R are the two songs left not on my list. I would take R&R over it. Not a big fan - don't think I even had it in my last 10 out.
UncleZen
Footballguy
100% agreed. They do have some great songs but no where near the hype they receive.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
For me, they are very top heavy and there's a lot of filler in their overall catalog. This is where my strategy of typically playing essentially the greatest hits from a band pays off. They have a damn solid top 20 or so.
fatguyinalittlecoat
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AAABatteries
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