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FFA In Death Spiral? (1 Viewer)

I tried just ignoring all the useless people in the politics threads, it doesn't help.

I spend far more time on reddit now than here and reddit sucks too.

There is just an overwhelming hostility here that is toxic.

 
BF makes some great points about this board needing more interesting, thought provoking, and generally funny threads.  It's all of our job to read those threads, participate if we have something relevant to offer, and encourage the making of those threads with lots of likes.  Likes are really the only currency we have to incentive people.

For example, @ClownCausedChaos2 is a like-obsessed (schtick obviously but still relevant) poster who I thought contributed a lot of funny and interesting comments.  He's now practically stopped posting due to the toxicity and overwhelming political threads.  Same goes for @TheIronSheik.  We need to attract and keep more guys like this and fewer guys who just shout over each in the political threads.

 
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Contrarian opinion: Likes have hurt the board.

Instead of several :goodpostings: and lols now you get likes, and the only text responses are disagreements.  This leads to a feedback loop of hostility.

poke holes

 
culdeus said:
Contrarian opinion: Likes have hurt the board.

Instead of several :goodpostings: and lols now you get likes, and the only text responses are disagreements.  This leads to a feedback loop of hostility.

poke holes
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Interesting.  I really hadn't thought of it that way.  I think we still do get a good number of quotes and good postings, but maybe they have been dampened because it's easy to just press the like button.

Good discussion.

 
Why is it again that we have a substantial NBA thread in the FFA when we have a dedicated basketball forum?

Also, I want it on the record that the plethora of Boston people is one of this forum's deeper problems and I still don't want to have sex with fatguy.

 
rockaction said:
Aside from the Trump, that sounds pretty diverse, actually. 

On the plus side, people love your thread. Even Limp conceded, and that's rare. There's something about concision and pith that's a talent. 

:shrugs:

Oh, and my ad thread is now on page two? Bummer. I already saw it tonight.  
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It's diverse but brutal to read IMO. 

 
Rick James said:
It's diverse but brutal to read IMO. 
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It's really hard to break into a mega thread as an outsider.  Nobody wants to pop into a 600 page thread and say something that's been said 100 times already,  and nobody is going to read that whole thread first, so you just end up skipping over it. Every so often i see someone new check out my pictures thread and they're like oh cool i never even clicked on this because i didn't know what it was. That used to be the reason people clicked on threads,  not the reason they don't. 

 
James Daulton said:
BF makes some great points about this board needing more interesting, thought provoking, and generally funny threads.  It's all of our job to read those threads, participate if we have something relevant to offer, and encourage the making of those threads with lots of likes.  Likes are really the only currency we have to incentive people.

For example, @ClownCausedChaos2 is a like-obsessed (schtick obviously but still relevant) poster who I thought contributed a lot of funny and interesting comments.  He's now practically stopped posting due to the toxicity and overwhelming political threads.  Same goes for @TheIronSheik.  We need to attract and keep more guys like this and fewer guys who just shout over each in the political threads.
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Hey buddy.

This place sucks now.

 
bostonfred said:
It's really hard to break into a mega thread as an outsider.
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It's not the size of the threads that matters.

:lmao: at a bunch of dudes that spend all day with insid:e: jokes/references and trolling aliases wondering why new people aren't joining.

As massraider correctly pointed out, message boards are already a dying breed in this day in age.  Post Gen-X folks aren't interested in something unless it's on twitter or snapchat.  They're not interested in message boards.  They're especially not interested in voting on which 80's song was the best on a message board.  They're especially especially not interested in voting on which 80's song was the best on a message board when all the existing folks are wink wink nod nod'ing through the whole thing making dumb ref:e:rences they don't understand.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
It's not the size of the threads that matters.

:lmao: at a bunch of dudes that spend all day with insid:e: jokes/references and trolling aliases wondering why new people aren't joining.

As massraider correctly pointed out, message boards are already a dying breed in this day in age.  Post Gen-X folks aren't interested in something unless it's on twitter or snapchat.  They're not interested in message boards.  They're especially not interested in voting on which 80's song was the best on a message board.  They're especially especially not interested in voting on which 80's song was the best on a message board when all the existing folks are wink wink nod nod'ing through the whole thing making dumb ref:e:rences they don't understand.
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And then the new people that join are either: 

a) imm:e:diately suspected by those of us who pretty much play it straight as another alias, or:

b) treated by the established (not :e:stablished, that's such a misnomer) members of the board as slightly less than. 

This board is tough to be on. It's cantankerous and long-standing. It also takes a long time to find people you genuinely want to hang out with, and by then, most people have been tested so many times they may have already pissed off someone they'd hang with past the point of no return.  

But I don't really have any solutions. I guess be smart, be funny, and be respectful, something even I've seen go way downhill, and I'm hardly a model of anything.  

 
I have been here as long as anyone and I legitimatly have no idea who is real or not.  The political threads are killing this place imo. 

 
hey ncc don't be fooled by the name recognition. He's really milked the #### out of one funny scene from a 22 year old movie.  You should be sending him your autograph as the original science guy instead of trying to be the sensible lefty. in the trump threads. 

 
roadkill1292 said:
Why is it again that we have a substantial NBA thread in the FFA when we have a dedicated basketball forum?

Also, I want it on the record that the plethora of Boston people is one of this forum's deeper problems and I still don't want to have sex with fatguy.
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Because that basketball thread is one of the 5 funniest threads here. 

 
hey brohans i tried to neat this place back in to awesomeness with a thread about things that are neat i even told you how to make a garbage disposal margarita machine and a trash can smoker so i did my part thats all i am sayin take that to the bank brochachos 

 
roadkill1292 said:
Why is it again that we have a substantial NBA thread in the FFA when we have a dedicated basketball forum?

Also, I want it on the record that the plethora of Boston people is one of this forum's deeper problems and I still don't want to have sex with fatguy.
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Why do we have threads about the World Series or my kid is trying out for the high school baseball team when there is a baseball board?

 
rockaction said:
And then the new people that join are either: 

a) imm:e:diately suspected by those of us who pretty much play it straight as another alias, or:

b) treated by the established (not :e:stablished, that's such a misnomer) members of the board as slightly less than. 

This board is tough to be on. It's cantankerous and long-standing. It also takes a long time to find people you genuinely want to hang out with, and by then, most people have been tested so many times they may have already pissed off someone they'd hang with past the point of no return.  

But I don't really have any solutions. I guess be smart, be funny, and be respectful, something even I've seen go way downhill, and I'm hardly a model of anything.  
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Hard not to when they immediately start from the standpoint of knowing a posters history or referencing things that happened in this forum eons ago. And they don't fool anyone with the claim they have been lurking for years but now just decided to start posting :rolleyes:

Most of the problems with this board would be solved if the mods starting banning all of the alias accounts, which they refuse to do even though it is a prohibition of the stated policy in the pinned FAQ at the top of the first page. Everyone knows who the alias accounts are and some are blatantly open about it, yet the mods for some reason do nothing about it. And if they don't want to do anything, that fine, then remove it from the FAQs - but don't keep it as a posted rule of this forum and then not enforce it.

And putting the alias/trolls on ignore doesn't help things as people keep responding to them so you see a lot of posts anyway.

As far as those who are new to the board who are actually new, it is true that they might be treated slightly less than but that goes with the territory as one establishes one's credibility (or lack thereof) by expressing their opinions and viewpoints and until you get an idea of where someone is coming from, they just simply won't be treated with the same degree of respect (not saying that is right, but I think that is human nature).

 
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culdeus said:
Contrarian opinion: Likes have hurt the board.

Instead of several :goodpostings: and lols now you get likes, and the only text responses are disagreements.  This leads to a feedback loop of hostility.

poke holes
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This is why we need that dislike button to balance it out. Give a chimp one shiny button to press and he won't have time to crap all over the thread.

 
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squistion said:
Hard not to when they immediately start from the standpoint of knowing a posters history or referencing things that happened in this forum eons ago. And they don't fool anyone with the claim they have been lurking for years but now just decided to start posting :rolleyes:

Most of the problems with this board would be solved if the mods starting banning all of the alias accounts, which they refuse to do even though it is a prohibition of the stated policy in the pinned FAQ at the top of the first page. Everyone knows who the alias accounts are and some are blatantly open about it, yet the mods for some reason do nothing about it. And if they don't want to do anything, that fine, then remove it from the FAQs - but don't keep it as a posted rule of this forum and then not enforce it.

And putting the alias/trolls on ignore doesn't help things as people keep responding to them so you see a lot of posts anyway.

As far as those who are new to the board who are actually new, it is true that they might be treated slightly less than but that goes with the territory as one establishes one's credibility (or lack thereof) by expressing their opinions and viewpoints and until you get an idea of where someone is coming from, they just simply won't be treated with the same degree of respect (not saying that is right, but I think that is human nature).
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Worst post ever

 
culdeus said:
Contrarian opinion: Likes have hurt the board.

Instead of several :goodpostings: and lols now you get likes, and the only text responses are disagreements.  This leads to a feedback loop of hostility.

poke holes
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I love giving likes out , love it. If there was a like count akin to post counts I'm be the timschochet of likes . 

 
squistion said:
Hard not to when they immediately start from the standpoint of knowing a posters history or referencing things that happened in this forum eons ago. And they don't fool anyone with the claim they have been lurking for years but now just decided to start posting :rolleyes:

Most of the problems with this board would be solved if the mods starting banning all of the alias accounts, which they refuse to do even though it is a prohibition of the stated policy in the pinned FAQ at the top of the first page. Everyone knows who the alias accounts are and some are blatantly open about it, yet the mods for some reason do nothing about it. And if they don't want to do anything, that fine, then remove it from the FAQs - but don't keep it as a posted rule of this forum and then not enforce it.

And putting the alias/trolls on ignore doesn't help things as people keep responding to them so you see a lot of posts anyway.

As far as those who are new to the board who are actually new, it is true that they might be treated slightly less than but that goes with the territory as one establishes one's credibility (or lack thereof) by expressing their opinions and viewpoints and until you get an idea of where someone is coming from, they just simply won't be treated with the same degree of respect (not saying that is right, but I think that is human nature).
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I think there's both the impossibility of banning alias accounts mixed with the fact that some long-standing posters use aliases and is part of their shtick. I don't like when the aliases get angry or creepy right off of the bat. I have not liked the recent wave of aliases running around the board. They're political, and often offensive, even to me. We've had hostility on one side and outright racism on the other. It's bad, and not real.  

As far as those who are new earning their stripes, that's fine, but when posters expect newbies to keep up with shtick that's been going on for years and is actually really hard to discern is unreasonable. And then to take it out on the newcomers when they can't keep up, or ask dumb questions or what have you, then you've got a problem attracting members. The sports threads are especially shticky; politics threads less so. I think that's why newcomers are often drawn to the political threads. Of course, arguing is less fun, so it's a cycle. People think those people can't be fun, but they're dealing with topics that aren't, and the other threads are filled with long-standing members shticking it up, which is fine if you're one of those who have been around, less so if you're new.  

Anyway, that's about all I got. 

 
squistion said:
Hard not to when they immediately start from the standpoint of knowing a posters history or referencing things that happened in this forum eons ago. And they don't fool anyone with the claim they have been lurking for years but now just decided to start posting :rolleyes:

Most of the problems with this board would be solved if the mods starting banning all of the alias accounts, which they refuse to do even though it is a prohibition of the stated policy in the pinned FAQ at the top of the first page. Everyone knows who the alias accounts are and some are blatantly open about it, yet the mods for some reason do nothing about it. And if they don't want to do anything, that fine, then remove it from the FAQs - but don't keep it as a posted rule of this forum and then not enforce it.

And putting the alias/trolls on ignore doesn't help things as people keep responding to them so you see a lot of posts anyway.

As far as those who are new to the board who are actually new, it is true that they might be treated slightly less than but that goes with the territory as one establishes one's credibility (or lack thereof) by expressing their opinions and viewpoints and until you get an idea of where someone is coming from, they just simply won't be treated with the same degree of respect (not saying that is right, but I think that is human nature).
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There's nothing really wrong with alias accounts, they're useful from time to time. I'd give up harping on them and the mods all the time, if I were you.

-B

 
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