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FFA Moderation Thoughts - What Do You Think? (1 Viewer)
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Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
sho nuff
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I got three days earlier this week for posting that. Handed out by Magaw. I know two other posters that got timeouts for that too. The person following me around the board using the same emoji posting insults at me too got nothing. Awesome moderating.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
ffldrew
Footballguy
Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
I see. Really shocked we haven't heard from other mods/Joe Bryant on this stuff if they're obviously reading it
sho nuff
Footballguy
Beaver...phase...now fairy?
at least of those, if not all are the same person...and he has been complaining about the rolling smilie thing constantly. That math isn't too hard to figure out.
You likely got it for more than just the smilie...you and beavers both went back and forth slinging crap. If she didn't get hit and you did that would be wrong by the mods imo. That was likely a big part of what got that thread nuked
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I'm not Beaver, phase, or fairy. I don't have an alias so people and their aliases aren't the ones being banned.
Magaw never gets the lefties. The unfair moderating was mentioned in this thread from the beginning. He's not the only one either. It is what it is.
The bolded is just laughable. Neither one of us deserved a timeout but if I did she certainly did too. The thread got nuked for exactly what Dodds said. It's constant insults and attacking each other. You're part of that too. 90% of the posters in that thread are. People are more interested in going after other posters than actually posting opinions and moving on.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Yeah. It's another reason I wasn't interested taking the bait of some of those guys. They end up attacking and when you respond one of them is reporting people. Funny thing is I'm not even one of the these so-called "Trump supporters" they are going after.
The
is much less than the constant condescending flame-bait that plenty of others toss out there all day long, in my opinion.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Every political thread evolves and deteriorates pretty much the same way. Look back at some from Bush to Obama to now and they are almost exactly the same. Only the topic and the president changes because the views never do. Groundhog Day..
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sho nuff
Footballguy
I didn't claim you were them. I claimed two of them have likely been suspended recently given they posted a lot...then nothing and the third one showed up.
to say lefties have not gotten it is just BS. I took a week for saying someone didnt understand the English language b cause of his repeated failed use of "ironic".
ivebeen apart...I don't claim innocence.
the difference is my appearance in that thread was to discuss Trump. You...and the three I mentioned..seem to talk about posters and nothing else. Yet you seem to claim its others doing this without seeing how much you do it. Again...I've gotten caught up in that too at times. But it's not even close to my only involvement in those threads. I don't recall your last post actually talking about Trump. You and beavers were just bashing each other back and forth for pages.
Yeah, this is why I try to block whatever DFSGuy's new alias is as fast as possible. Seems like a new one each week.Yeah. It's another reason I wasn't interested taking the bait of some of those guys. They end up attacking and when you respond one of them is reporting people. Funny thing is I'm not even one of the these so-called "Trump supporters" they are going after.
The
There are good people to discuss politics with though. Sad we're not allowed to do that right now.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
No self-awareness whatsoever. Your role in that thread was to report on what everyone else was posting. Like I said, 90% of the people in that thread went after posters. You did it. I did it. Many others did it. I'm not claiming innocence by any means. I asked beavers to back off and stop following me around. The hour my suspension ended she started right back at it and even had the lefties going at her it was so ridiculous. You've had back and forths with dozens of people so get off the high horse stuff here.
I'm done responding to you. You can have the last word if you want. Merry Christmas man
Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
No self-awareness whatsoever. Your role in that thread was to report on what everyone else was posting. Like I said, 90% of the people in that thread went after posters. You did it. I did it. Many others did it. I'm not claiming innocence by any means. I asked beavers to back off and stop following me around. The hour my suspension ended she started right back at it and even had the lefties going at her it was so ridiculous. You've had back and forths with dozens of people so get off the high horse stuff here.
I'm done responding to you. You can have the last word if you want. Merry Christmas man
bostonfred
Footballguy
This thread is a great example of what we don't want in the ffa.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its not a high horse..,it's the truth. I said I wasn't innocent..the difference was that your posts were all at other posters. Nothing about Trump, policies, appointees...all going after people critical of Trump despite saying you don't support him.
No self-awareness whatsoever. Your role in that thread was to report on what everyone else was posting. Like I said, 90% of the people in that thread went after posters. You did it. I did it. Many others did it. I'm not claiming innocence by any means. I asked beavers to back off and stop following me around. The hour my suspension ended she started right back at it and even had the lefties going at her it was so ridiculous. You've had back and forths with dozens of people so get off the high horse stuff here.
I'm done responding to you. You can have the last word if you want. Merry Christmas man
maybe you need some self awareness. Because Ive seen you capable of posting in other topics without doing that...same cannot be said for multi alias guy
And a Merry Christmas to you too
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Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
So it's safe to assume sho is one of the people wearing out the report button.
HellToupee
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Who cares what people post?
If you don't like it move on.
Outside of illegal stuff, racist crap, who cares.
Seeing weird ####, reading stuff that you think is whack, other people's weirdo tinhat stuff, etc is what the internet is made for (and cat vids).
I don't care about fat middle age dudes diets. People who jog, threads about nothing, Clash of Clans and countless other threads so I don't read them.
Being a mod sucks but I always thought it was great in here. I don't get what's going on now.
If you don't like it move on.
Outside of illegal stuff, racist crap, who cares.
Seeing weird ####, reading stuff that you think is whack, other people's weirdo tinhat stuff, etc is what the internet is made for (and cat vids).
I don't care about fat middle age dudes diets. People who jog, threads about nothing, Clash of Clans and countless other threads so I don't read them.
Being a mod sucks but I always thought it was great in here. I don't get what's going on now.
bostonfred
Footballguy
The problem with politics on the internet is that it will always attract people who like to argue. These people want someone to argue with, and they can always find someone on the other side of the debate. Just start a thread like "hey libs what do you think about harry reid doing this" or "trump is already the worst president ever" and watch the customers pile in.
There are people who stay above that - @fatguyinalittlecoat or @Yankee23Fan - who might have entrenched views but have a legiimate, non partisan interest in policy decisions and should have a place to talk about it. But you can't have that without the arguers eventually overrunning the place.
I get not wanting to move politics to another forum, but I am not proposing a no current events in the ffa policy. If there's a thread here on a school shooting that's fine. When it inevitably devolves into a gun control debate, one click and you move the thread to the politics forum. It won't take long for people to figure out how this works, the arguers will have their place to argue, the non arguers can start their own thread if they really want, and everyone has what they want.
The FFA has more room for new threads which encourages good posters to keep posting good new things.
The mostly politics guys don't have to sift through 10 threads on season 17 of the bachelor or headphones whatcha got. They have a whole forum of topics that interest them.
The casual politics guys can check out the politics forum when they want, and not when they don't
It's really a win for everyone, @David Dodds
There are people who stay above that - @fatguyinalittlecoat or @Yankee23Fan - who might have entrenched views but have a legiimate, non partisan interest in policy decisions and should have a place to talk about it. But you can't have that without the arguers eventually overrunning the place.
I get not wanting to move politics to another forum, but I am not proposing a no current events in the ffa policy. If there's a thread here on a school shooting that's fine. When it inevitably devolves into a gun control debate, one click and you move the thread to the politics forum. It won't take long for people to figure out how this works, the arguers will have their place to argue, the non arguers can start their own thread if they really want, and everyone has what they want.
The FFA has more room for new threads which encourages good posters to keep posting good new things.
The mostly politics guys don't have to sift through 10 threads on season 17 of the bachelor or headphones whatcha got. They have a whole forum of topics that interest them.
The casual politics guys can check out the politics forum when they want, and not when they don't
It's really a win for everyone, @David Dodds
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Setting aside the strong correlation between believing certain conspiracy theories from certain websites and supporting Trump, he also expressed optimism that with Trump taking office the DOJ will finally investigate the child sex rings and certain high-level officials who may be involved. It's hard to say if he supports Trump's other attributes like climate change denial and exploding the deficit since most of what he posted (that I saw anyway) involved the pedophilia ring.
The General
Footballguy
This seems perfectly reasonable outside of it being more work, not sure what that entails for the people who make all this stuff work.
The General
Footballguy
The report button if used incorrectly should have a warning and then a ban. That seems like that is a bunch of extra BS that someone helping moderate in spare time shouldn't have to deal with.
GoBirds
Footballguy
What it comes down to is they own FBG and can make the calls as they see fit. With how people were acting the decision was reasonable and they don't owe anyone anything for it. Aren't there political sites out there where people that want to bash the President can go? This is a football site and FFA is a great aspect of it but to limit some of the craziness isn't a bad idea.
Chemical X
Footballguy
The General
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beavers
Footballguy
Calling out a discussion pattern did not get that thread deleted. And, no, I have never reported anyone for the
. Kinda redic if they get a timeout for it. I've used that in response to prove a point, and was never given a timeout. It isn't inconsistent moderating, it's because there was something else that prompted a timeout, not the 
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Different people can read the same posts and reach opposite conclusions about who was acting reasonably. I think the great divide that caused so many communications challenges for participants also led to the demise of the threads.
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The folks that run this place have always nixed subjects that could be considered offensive, and nixed individual posters who struck an inappropriate tone. But as far as I know they've never combined the two to preemptively go after subjects so that people don't take an inappropriate tone.
JMO of course but I think it's really silly. One, politics pervades everything, including stuff we talk about here all the time like TV shows and movies. Two, this board is an offshoot of a sports website/message board. People say obnoxious, troll-y stuff to fans of rival sports teams all the time. And unlike political threads, those conversations are never productive for anyone. Why is one of those thread subjects OK and the other is not?
JMO of course but I think it's really silly. One, politics pervades everything, including stuff we talk about here all the time like TV shows and movies. Two, this board is an offshoot of a sports website/message board. People say obnoxious, troll-y stuff to fans of rival sports teams all the time. And unlike political threads, those conversations are never productive for anyone. Why is one of those thread subjects OK and the other is not?
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GoBirds
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Chemical X
Footballguy
This thread and the Trump thread are merely microcosms of the larger issue at hand.......we are the Divided States of America. How that came to be is debatable. Are we divided and that's why Trump was elected or are we divided because Trump was elected? It's a fascinating argument............but that's what arguments are sometimes.
George Jefferson Airplane
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Exactly why threads don't need to be closed. If people read things differently I enjoy seeing their conclusions as to why.
A bunch of laughing heads will get me to skip through pages and is annoying but I just move past them.
Chemical X
Footballguy
I can give or take the politics honestly, but I don't necessarily think we solve problems by taking our ball and going home nor do I believe a great business model is telling patrons if you don't like it, patronize another establishment. A message board is different, obviously, but if I walk into a pizzeria and ask for pepperoni, I hardly think the guy at luigi's is gonna tell me to scram, we don't make it, but next door is Giuseppe's, he has pepperoni. I figure luigi will find a way to get pepperoni. That's called compromise. We should have more of it here IMO.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Virtually all the folks that have positive things to say about Trump seem to believe they were being attacked. Dodds appears to have read the thread the same way. The fact that you or I may have viewed the thread completely differently doesn't really change that.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
A politics forum would be too much work. Mods would be constantly moving threads. Non-stop report function alerts as to a thread that doesn't belong. Then people who bring up anything political in a non-political thread will be chastised and people will ask for those posts to be moved or deleted. On top of that you'd have a whole new forum to moderate, one that's going to need to be highly moderated. Sounds like a nightmare.
If you give me mod abilities for 3 hours I can make all of the problems disappear. We'll be able to have all of the threads we want right here and we'll all live in harmony. Simple fixes. Common sense stuff with a little bit of outside the box thinking. A 7 step plan.
If you give me mod abilities for 3 hours I can make all of the problems disappear. We'll be able to have all of the threads we want right here and we'll all live in harmony. Simple fixes. Common sense stuff with a little bit of outside the box thinking. A 7 step plan.
The General
Footballguy
Fair enough to the last sentence. His site his rules and all.
When Trump actually takes office and has to deal with real things going to be weak that threads can't go on because of tiny percentage of mean posts or bad content. Well see what happens, not the end of the world I suppose if folks just move on.
bostonfred
Footballguy
We're in a 28 page thread about how people click report too much. It's not more work to have a politics forum.
Hilts
Footballguy
It's fair to debate whether politics should be allowed here and or whether it should have its own forum. It's also pretty obvious why the recent threads were shut down. Dodds believes some insane stuff. He was rightly called out on it, then he proceeded to shut everything down. Maybe some good can come from this or maybe not. Ultimately it's his site and he can do as he pleases. But let's not pretend this happened for any reason other than Dodds throwing a hissy fit because it was pointed out he had lost his damned mind.
Chemical X
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The above is technically not what happened, the below is:
- Hillary thread - 26 months, 1657 pages
- Sanders thread - 20 months, 482 pages
- Trump thread - 16 months, 1446 pages
Then there was the pizzagate thread - that was trouble from the start, but you know what, it was better in its own thread because it was kept out of other threads - but that got locked (appropriately). Nonetheless the pizzagate discussion came then to the Trump thread - which was a mistake. It carried heavy resentment and people were upset by the content. It was a subject bound to cause problems. That discussion should have been shut down and a visible warning given. However then Dodds became personally involved as a commenter. He was wearing two hats. He was personally insulted. A suspension of perhaps two posters (who I like and appreciate) would have been totally justified. However what is clear is that heavy, in depth political discussion - yet never lockable discussion - took place in three different threads for a posting total of 62 months, ~3600 pages. That's a good 5 years of posting.
Until that moment. Now it's 2 threads locked in 50 pages in 2 weeks.
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fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
I don't think Dodds was reading the three long threads you identify. I agree with you that Dodds's decision to start reading the political threads is what lead to their end.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Nope it was the smilie. RidiculousCalling out a discussion pattern did not get that thread deleted. And, no, I have never reported anyone for the
sho nuff
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