What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

FFA Moderation Thoughts - What Do You Think? (1 Viewer)

How would you like to see the FFA moderated?

  • More heavily moderated than it is now with time outs given much more frequently for unexcellent beha

    Votes: 42 11.4%
  • A little more moderated than it is now with time outs given a little more frequently for unexcellent

    Votes: 73 19.8%
  • Keep it like it is now

    Votes: 119 32.3%
  • A little less moderated than it is now with time outs given a little less frequently for unexcellent

    Votes: 63 17.1%
  • A lot less moderated than it is now with time outs given much less frequently for unexcellent behavi

    Votes: 71 19.3%

  • Total voters
    368
So let me get this straight.  It was ok to bash Obama for 8 years but now that Trump is about to take over we need rules? Got it.  His worshippers are as thin skinned as he is.  

 
I had you on ignore at the time, so I didn't see your comment. Willie has had a vendetta against me for years, accusing me of being the same poster as Tone1Loc and even going so far to falsely claim it was confirmed by two of the mods, a story which fell apart when he couldn't provide any link or verification. So given his history of antipathy towards me, I didn't take what he had to say seriously right away, but after looking into it, I became proactive later that day, but it was too little too late.
Perfect...there's a certain irony here one can't simply make up.  Maybe take a step back and reevaluate for a bit.

 
What is so funny is that Hell Toupee reposts things from Twitter himself, but when confronted with his hypocrisy, claims his retweets are informative, unlike mine which are spam. :hophead:  
right.  I do think some should learn to tell the difference between spam and just ordinary annoying nonsense.  it's an important distinction to be sure.

 
Based on what the moderators have been posting, there seems to be an increase in the amount of reporting, and that's what's getting a lot of these threads killed. 

I don't get it. I think in the entire time I've been here I've reported to the mods around 2-3 times, and even then I was hesitant. Why do people waste their time reporting other people?

 
Based on what the moderators have been posting, there seems to be an increase in the amount of reporting, and that's what's getting a lot of these threads killed. 

I don't get it. I think in the entire time I've been here I've reported to the mods around 2-3 times, and even then I was hesitant. Why do people waste their time reporting other people?
Sadly Tim, this seems to happen a good bit.  When the power shifts in our government, the group that was used to winning but is now losing gets whiny and uncomfortable.  This happened in the transition from GWB to Obama too, only it's worse now.  It's all getting worse as time goes.  When the presidency shifts back to a Dem in the future, it will be worse than it is right now.

 
Based on what the moderators have been posting, there seems to be an increase in the amount of reporting, and that's what's getting a lot of these threads killed. 

I don't get it. I think in the entire time I've been here I've reported to the mods around 2-3 times, and even then I was hesitant. Why do people waste their time reporting other people?
Why do a couple of moderators bully posters when they disagree with content and then start use ban privileges inconsistently?  There's plenty of reasons here. 

 
Why do a couple of moderators bully posters when they disagree with content and then start use ban privileges inconsistently?  There's plenty of reasons here. 
I agree that they have been very inconsistent, but it's a stretch to argue that it's because of "disagree with content". I don't think you can prove that.

 
Exactly.  That's the whole problem.  It's party over nation from here on out.  And people are cheering for it.  
It is sad that the last 8 years divided the country this far. 
This has been happening for a long time....didn't just start 8 years ago.  I will say, much like the debt, it's spreading much quicker today than it was, but the divide has been growing for as long as I can remember.

 
This has been happening for a long time....didn't just start 8 years ago.  I will say, much like the debt, it's spreading much quicker today than it was, but the divide has been growing for as long as I can remember.
Not sure when it started but is a lot worse than it was 8 years ago.....like you say the debt as well unfortunately.  

 
I agree that they have been very inconsistent, but it's a stretch to argue that it's because of "disagree with content". I don't think you can prove that.
Well one keeps banning people that disagree with him but not others doing the exact same stuff.  Which isn't really banable stuff anyway. 

Meanwhile one guy can tell the owner F U and get nothing and still come in threads and crap on them. 

The number one reason those threads are turds are everyone wants to one up someone, everyone has thin skin and people are more interested in winning an argument than having a discussion.  Anyway a million reasons and solutions have been given and joe isn't even reading the thread so what does it matter?

 
I don't get this demand for justice and equality everyone feels entitled to.  As long as you are respectful to others around here, everything will be OK for you.  That should be enough.  It's not like you're paying to be here.

 
I don't get this demand for justice and equality everyone feels entitled to.  As long as you are respectful to others around here, everything will be OK for you.  That should be enough.  It's not like you're paying to be here.
That should be true, but that is not always the case. 

 
Well one keeps banning people that disagree with him but not others doing the exact same stuff.  Which isn't really banable stuff anyway. 

Meanwhile one guy can tell the owner F U and get nothing and still come in threads and crap on them. 

The number one reason those threads are turds are everyone wants to one up someone, everyone has thin skin and people are more interested in winning an argument than having a discussion.  Anyway a million reasons and solutions have been given and joe isn't even reading the thread so what does it matter?
You have a habit of drawing broad, sweeping conclusions from narrow, incomplete information.  It frequently gets in the way of your understanding of others, and is a likely reason why your posts are so often met with a lot of resistance by some, and completely ignored by others.

 
Sadly Tim, this seems to happen a good bit.  When the power shifts in our government, the group that was used to winning but is now losing gets whiny and uncomfortable.  This happened in the transition from GWB to Obama too, only it's worse now.  It's all getting worse as time goes.  When the presidency shifts back to a Dem in the future, it will be worse than it is right now.
This could be the reason but frankly I'm skeptical. 

What I think is happening is that a few trolls have figured out that they can derail good debate and discussion by (1) goading people to insult them and (2) immediately reporting the insults. The reporting annoys the mods and they shut down the thread. 

I don't think it has anything to do with political positions or the subject matters. I think it's a big game that's being played, just a new tactic to screw with people here. 

 
I agree that they have been very inconsistent, but it's a stretch to argue that it's because of "disagree with content". I don't think you can prove that.
Correlation does not imply causation, but you and I dealt with daily insults and over-the-top generalizations about Hillary supporters for two years in the now locked thread and that didn't seem to be an issue. However, now that the shoe is on the other foot (so to speak) if one is saying "All Trump supporters are (fill in the blank)" that is verboten and will a get a thread closed down, and/or a suspension. I dunno, I really don't see in a difference qualitatively or quantitatively as far what was being posted, only as to whom the criticism was directed against.  Just my :2cents: .

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You have a habit of drawing broad, sweeping conclusions from narrow, incomplete information.  It frequently gets in the way of your understanding of others, and is a likely reason why your posts are so often met with a lot of resistance by some, and completely ignored by others.
:lmao:

#CriticalThinking

 
This could be the reason but frankly I'm skeptical. 

What I think is happening is that a few trolls have figured out that they can derail good debate and discussion by (1) goading people to insult them and (2) immediately reporting the insults. The reporting annoys the mods and they shut down the thread. 

I don't think it has anything to do with political positions or the subject matters. I think it's a big game that's being played, just a new tactic to screw with people here. 
I have no clue who reports what or what annoys the mods. When I got trolled and then banned for laughing at the troll I sent messages asking why I did but other person didn't.  

Dodds has made it clear why threads keep getting closed. Because almost everyone in there is not excellent to each other. You've been guilty of that and trolling before too. All of us have. Look at new thread from yesterday. The trolling started at post 2. Most people here when discussing politics are interested in winning an argument not having a real open minded discussion. Very few of the most guilty will even admit its them it's always the other guy. It is what it is. 

 
timschochet said:
The Commish said:
Sadly Tim, this seems to happen a good bit.  When the power shifts in our government, the group that was used to winning but is now losing gets whiny and uncomfortable.  This happened in the transition from GWB to Obama too, only it's worse now.  It's all getting worse as time goes.  When the presidency shifts back to a Dem in the future, it will be worse than it is right now.
This could be the reason but frankly I'm skeptical. 

What I think is happening is that a few trolls have figured out that they can derail good debate and discussion by (1) goading people to insult them and (2) immediately reporting the insults. The reporting annoys the mods and they shut down the thread. 

I don't think it has anything to do with political positions or the subject matters. I think it's a big game that's being played, just a new tactic to screw with people here.
Sit back and observe Tim...that's all I ask.  Of course, the mods could come in and verify or reject my comments outright and I suppose it could just be a big fat coincidence.  I guess there's no way to prove otherwise.  I will say, this election seems to have come out and pull the scab off the sore this country has been tending to and forced people (more than ever it seems) to look at the social climate we live in.  I've been taken aback by some of the reactions by some guys here who I have much respect for.  There are some who have completely lost it and are so incredibly angry.  I'm not sure if that anger is rooted in their fear of something or if it's rooted in being forced to see where we really are as a country on these social topics.  It seems as if the United States as they knew it (or thought they knew it) is no longer.

With all that said, if you're right and it's all a big game, it seems like removing the report function would fix that for them.  I think I've used it maybe a handful of times here back in the LHUCKS days and when people bring other poster's families into the conversations.  That crosses the line IMO.  I wouldn't have a problem with it being gone.

 
squistion said:
Correlation does not imply causation, but you and I dealt with daily insults and over-the-top generalizations about Hillary supporters for two years in the now locked thread and that didn't seem to be an issue. However, now that the shoe is on the other foot (so to speak) if one is saying "All Trump supporters are (fill in the blank)" that is verboten and will a get a thread closed down, and/or a suspension. I dunno, I really don't see in a difference qualitatively or quantitatively as far what was being posted, only as to whom the criticism was directed against.  Just my :2cents: .
Wow guy get over it. I put up with 8 years of Mitt insults and jabs. Funny how it works . And btw don't underestimate the part your antics played. Now you're offended like you're Little Lord Fauntleroy

 
You know what the amazing part is here, you have Trump supporters and you have Hillary supporters.  The supporters will go to hell and high water to support their candidate; argue the point, berate, name call and dig in their heels.  For what, a politician so far removed from you that it's likely they wouldn't even wipe you off their shoes if they stepped on you?  Shouldn't it be the other way around?  Shouldn't they be fighting for us?  I like the discussion, but the over the top passion shukes me...........

 
You know what the amazing part is here, you have Trump supporters and you have Hillary supporters.  The supporters will go to hell and high water to support their candidate; argue the point, berate, name call and dig in their heels.  For what, a politician so far removed from you that it's likely they wouldn't even wipe you off their shoes if they stepped on you?  Shouldn't it be the other way around?  Shouldn't they be fighting for us?  I like the discussion, but the over the top passion shukes me...........
:shrug:

we're just rooting for R & D uniforms 

 
I really wish people would stop doing it.  It's one of the primary reasons our choices where Trump or Hillary.  If that doesn't signal any sort of pause, I'm not sure anything will.

 
Wow guy get over it. I put up with 8 years of Mitt insults and jabs. Funny how it works . And btw don't underestimate the part your antics played. Now you're offended like you're Little Lord Fauntleroy
And how was that different than 8 years of Obama insults and jabs? 

Actually, the only thing I am offended about is the sudden change of forum rules which seems to be related to Trump being elected President (maybe that is simply a coincidence or maybe it is not). If the powers that be want to set different guidelines, fine, they run this place - but I saw no shift in tone or frequency as far as the posts were concerned to warrant this change in policy.

 
I fiully support this new policy of making new rules on a whim and both the inconsistency and randomness of the enforcement. 

 
I'm a few pages back but here's my :2cents:  on the pigeon/poop stuff.

1.)  The pigeon itself is a swipe at one forum member.  The admins here shouldn't be condoning (much less creating smileys that encourage) something like that.  Not cool, imo.  

2.)  Some of the pigeon avatars are genuinely funny but that's also directed at one forum member so I'm not a fan.  It's not out of bounds, per se, but I wouldn't do it.

3.)  CSTU probably deserves a mean smiley for welching, but it should be grape juice.  That would make more sense and would honor hagmania's memorable twitch.

4.)  Nothing wrong with a poop smiley for when someone poops on a thread, but typing :poop: for that makes more sense than ;cstu: and the image should be a turd or something, not a pigeon.

 
I really wish people would stop doing it.  It's one of the primary reasons our choices where Trump or Hillary.  If that doesn't signal any sort of pause, I'm not sure anything will.
I may be the only one left to do so, but I protest this comparison- again.

I LIKE the fact that Hillary Clinton was the Democratic choice for President. I wanted that to happen. She was an excellent choice, and she would have made a superb President, and I'm only sorry she wasn't elected. But in no way do I regret having supported her. I'll be proud of that until the day I die.

 
I'm a few pages back but here's my :2cents:  on the pigeon/poop stuff.

1.)  The pigeon itself is a swipe at one forum member.  The admins here shouldn't be condoning (much less creating smileys that encourage) something like that.  Not cool, imo.  

2.)  Some of the pigeon avatars are genuinely funny but that's also directed at one forum member so I'm not a fan.  It's not out of bounds, per se, but I wouldn't do it.

3.)  CSTU probably deserves a mean smiley for welching, but it should be grape juice.  That would make more sense and would honor hagmania's memorable twitch.

4.)  Nothing wrong with a poop smiley for when someone poops on a thread, but typing :poop: for that makes more sense than ;cstu: and the image should be a turd or something, not a pigeon.
I just agree with this for reasons I'll leave unspoken. Nice post. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I really wish people would stop doing it.  It's one of the primary reasons our choices where Trump or Hillary.  If that doesn't signal any sort of pause, I'm not sure anything will.
I may be the only one left to do so, but I protest this comparison- again.

I LIKE the fact that Hillary Clinton was the Democratic choice for President. I wanted that to happen. She was an excellent choice, and she would have made a superb President, and I'm only sorry she wasn't elected. But in no way do I regret having supported her. I'll be proud of that until the day I die.
:oldunsure:   There's no comparison.  Voting for "the party uniforms" as said above is one of the primary reasons our choices were Trump and Clinton.  That's a fact, not a comparison.  I get that you loved Clinton, but we can absolutely do way better IMO.  I know you disagree and love Hillary despite everything....that's your choice.

 
I'm a few pages back but here's my :2cents:  on the pigeon/poop stuff.

1.)  The pigeon itself is a swipe at one forum member.  The admins here shouldn't be condoning (much less creating smileys that encourage) something like that.  Not cool, imo.  

2.)  Some of the pigeon avatars are genuinely funny but that's also directed at one forum member so I'm not a fan.  It's not out of bounds, per se, but I wouldn't do it.

3.)  CSTU probably deserves a mean smiley for welching, but it should be grape juice.  That would make more sense and would honor hagmania's memorable twitch.

4.)  Nothing wrong with a poop smiley for when someone poops on a thread, but typing :poop: for that makes more sense than ;cstu: and the image should be a turd or something, not a pigeon.
Agree on all account here regardless of how deserving the poster is.  The set up here never made sense to me

 
I'm a few pages back but here's my :2cents:  on the pigeon/poop stuff.

1.)  The pigeon itself is a swipe at one forum member.  The admins here shouldn't be condoning (much less creating smileys that encourage) something like that.  Not cool, imo.  

2.)  Some of the pigeon avatars are genuinely funny but that's also directed at one forum member so I'm not a fan.  It's not out of bounds, per se, but I wouldn't do it.

3.)  CSTU probably deserves a mean smiley for welching, but it should be grape juice.  That would make more sense and would honor hagmania's memorable twitch.

4.)  Nothing wrong with a poop smiley for when someone poops on a thread, but typing :poop: for that makes more sense than ;cstu: and the image should be a turd or something, not a pigeon.
Oh so 

:cstu:

is that.

:cool:

 
5 out of the top 8 threads is too much for anything, especially considering the fewer topics per page.

http://imgur.com/a/uKEaB
Because the catch-all Trump threads kept getting gunned. And then we weren't supposed to have any new political threads at all, because the owner said so. Then he posted in political threads so it was like, oh, political threads are okay again. Then he complained again and another political thread went away. Then he started a political thread. Really not sure how anyone would find anything confusing here.

 
A catch all Trump thread will never work.  I like the separation of topics that focus on distinct issues.  And they're not all about Trump.  One is on the inauguration.  One is on the cabinet picks.  One is on John Lewis and what constitutes racism.  One is on the first 100 days of the new administration.

Problem is, Trump comes up over and over, and a small but vocal group needs to voice their emotions and opinions about his behavior and style at each and every opportunity.  It's almost like they're venting.

 
A catch all Trump thread will never work.  I like the separation of topics that focus on distinct issues.  And they're not all about Trump.  One is on the inauguration.  One is on the cabinet picks.  One is on John Lewis and what constitutes racism.  One is on the first 100 days of the new administration.

Problem is, Trump comes up over and over, and a small but vocal group needs to voice their emotions and opinions about his behavior and style at each and every opportunity.  It's almost like they're venting.
Almost?

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top