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I don't think the line is as clear as you are suggesting. Because pizzagate wasn't some sort of close judgment call in my eyes. Neither is supporting Trump. You may not want to admit it, but your view of pizzagate believers and Trump supporters isn't segregated to a single post. You think less of them. So do I. They can tell.
Of course, but that doesn't make the line less clear from a practical standpoint (and IMO from the perspective of what is or isn't cool to post). I'm sure are plenty of people here who maybe think less of me because of what I post, but very few (can count on one hand) who actually post about my personal attributes rather than the substance of the posts. As long as they don't do the former, I don't mind the latter. I wouldn't post here if I did.
Might have something to do with adult men constantly trolling and insulting people. And Joe and Maurile (among others) have made it clear that they want us to use the report button rather than respond in kind to a personal attack, an insult or constant trolling. If you have ever been on an unmoderated forum, you can see that is the best way to go IMO.
Isn't that what David Dodds was saying, though? That it got personal in the Trump thread, and that was the reason for the banning.
I think you forget we just elected a president who said anything PC is out the door. Feel free to openly mock and attack anyone you like...except for the ironicly thin skinned president elect himself and his similarly easily offended acolytes.If the guy moderating the thread thinks the redhead thing is plausible, then your approach is going to feel like an attack to him.
You better report Tim for making another tread about Trump after Dodds stated not to do that.
Well, maybe not stated that explicitly, but the implication was there were to be no more political threads for the time being. For instance, Rockaction was apologetic in (I think) the George Clooney Nespreso thread saying something to the effect of "If this an inappropriate topic, mods please delete".
Sometimes I say stupid things, because I didn't have complete information, or because I didn't think about an issue enough, or I just spaced or something. When somebody calls out that I said something stupid, it doesn't bother me, because these sorts of mistakes are normal and not particularly concerning.
I haven't forgotten anything. I'm trying to consider things from other vantage points.
No he didn't. He said there were to be no "catch-all" Trump threads. Which means no Official Donald Trump thread, etc. He never aid anything about specific issue political threads regarding Trump, and he did not remove the Social Security one. So Whole I hate to disappoint my buddy Hell Toupee, I didn't break the rules.
Not directed at you...I think it's too bad that some bright posters act so arrogantly and condescending to people with opposing views...if you prove your point with facts that should be good enough (and I admit I have learned some stuff from posters who I disagree with on many topics)...just move on instead of acting like the arrogant hard guy behind the comfort of your keyboard...maybe it's my age but I find that attitude to be so soft...
Maybe but that approach sounds like frontier justice and is subjective in nature. Do you call 911 when someone cuts you off in a parking lot? This seems like what is happening.
You just said you had no idea what he wrote about no more political threads. Now you are acting like an expert about it? Your ego is out of control.
I'd recommend everyone test out the really excellent ignore function built into the human brain.Maybe but that approach sounds like frontier justice and is subjective in nature. Do you call 911 when someone cuts you off in a parking lot? This seems like what is happening.
Tim I like you and despite some of my postings I'd hate to see you go .Sure you're a blowhard but you seem like a decent guy.
If only it were :cstu: instead
No, taking the matter into one's own hands and responding in kind is a form of vigilante, frontier justice. This is akin to letting those in charge of enforcing the law or in this case, the moderation of this forum do their job. And, no, I don't call 911 if someone cuts me off in a parking lot, but I would if they then shot at me or rammed their car into mine.Maybe but that approach sounds like frontier justice and is subjective in nature. Do you call 911 when someone cuts you off in a parking lot? This seems like what is happening.
Dodds doesn't read the FFA anywhere close to how much you read it. Odds are he won't even see this post. And there's a good chance he hasn't even seen the political threads that still exist. What grabs his attention is posts that have been reported. If someone reports a post in your new political threads or in the political threads that still exist, it will get his attention. Expect it to be locked and people banned as a result.
Good for you. I need to do a better job with that as well. I freely admit that i'm still shuked that we elected Trump and am having a really difficult time understanding how anyone thinks this is a good thing for the future of our country. The wait and see approach is also difficult given the train wreck of picks he has made for his cabinet. I will endeavour to sit back and watch a bit as things unfold and try to do a better job in policing my own excellence towards others posters and if political threads are still allowed will attempt to focus my arguments towards the issues and not the messengers.
Because people can't tell you think they're stupid unless you call them stupid? I can count on one hand the people here who come to a conversation with no axe to grind rather come looking to read into whatever others say to fit a narrative they've already determined to be true. That's not productive and it's not genuine. It's also not something that can be controlled by others. Only the individual using the approach can change their behavior.
Isn't that what the report button is doing though? People are just expressing their thoughts and as long as they aren't threatening you, it seems like a waste of time. I don't know since I doubt I've ever been reported and I've never reported anyone here or anywhere else, but I just can't really understand why people do it. Because the owners want it? Wouldn't they say that to protect their business model, as a courtesy? I can't imagine them logging in and seeing 50 reports about someone saying someone was stupid or whatever in a political thread. Plus the whole crying wolf thing comes into play also, seems like a vicious cycle. I mean does anyone who report people think it actually helps in any way? Seems counterproductive in every way instead of just simply ignoring it since it's the internet and all.No, taking the matter into one's own hands and responding in kind is a form of vigilante, frontier justice. This is akin to letting those in charge of enforcing the law or in this case, the moderation of this forum do their job. And, no, but I don't call 911 if someone cuts me off in a parking lot, but I would if they then shot at me or rammed their car into mine.Maybe but that approach sounds like frontier justice and is subjective in nature. Do you call 911 when someone cuts you off in a parking lot? This seems like what is happening.
My mind has been changed in discussion groups a lot. It doesn't seem like it, but it has been.Because people can't tell you think they're stupid unless you call them stupid? I can count on one hand the people here who come to a conversation with no axe to grind rather come looking to read into whatever others say to fit a narrative they've already determined to be true. That's not productive and it's not genuine. It's also not something that can be controlled by others. Only the individual using the approach can change their behavior.
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Better still if :e: posters were banned here the ffa would be looking on the upswing . Just saying
I know what fans of Stripes are silly to say here, but this is too important. I'll instead say I'll help you dispose of the bodies.
I think giving the LHUCKS of the forum a temporary or permanent ban does increase the quality of the threads, both in the short term and the long term. And looking at the popularity of unmoderated versus moderated forums and social media, this is what most people seem to prefer. And who wants to try to have serious discussion on an issue where after every post someone is trolling or insulting you? And these people don't go away - for instance Tim has had several stalkers who followed him from thread to thread for months and it didn't stop until the mods finally stepped in and banned them (although these people quite often resurface under a different alias).
I wasn't talking specifically about you, but maybe I should have been. Maximum efficiency here. Simultaneously whining, bringing politics into a non political post, implicitly arguing with my point and making this personal about yourself. Impressive.
Look at your young men fighting
