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FFA Movie Poll - 1974 Countdown Monday is here. (1 Viewer)

Yankee23Fan said:
KarmaPolice said:
#7  234pts

19/2

Alright men, now here's the play we're gonna use. I don't think the guards know this formation. It's called 'incidental punishment after the ball is blown dead.' Remember, any man you tackle gets an elbow, knee, or kick in the mouth

. Ugh...

The whole film is mediocre, but the football game is particularly annoying, filled with bad film cliches (the split screen, the slow motion final play,...). If you want to see football presented with panache, watch M*A*S*H, which predates this by several years.

THE LONGEST YARD
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 Oh go to hell. The reviewer that is. 
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Not enough panache

 
#2  565pts 

26/12

Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown.

I hate film noir and I always will......

Film Noir has to be the most overrated style of film being made. 'The Maltese Falcon', 'L.A. Confidential', and now 'Chinatown' are film noir films I have seen that are highly overrated pieces of s**t. Someone has to say how crappy this style of film is. But perhaps I am the only one using my brain when I watch these over complicated, yet extremely simple, and most of the time non-existent and forgotten about plots. First of all, the plot twists. There are too many to count in every one of these. She could be a daughter, then a lover, then a wife, then a man. It doesn't matter, apparently all of you fools will buy into anything they tell you and call it a masterpiece. You may as well watch 'Days of our Lives'. I bet they have great plot twists for all of you to sink your teeth into. There's sure to be double crosses. And as long as there are ten or eleven of those, contrived as they all are, you seem to love it.

Overrated Mystery

I had heard so much about this movie from word of mouth that it was one of the best films ever created and possibly the best film noir ever. I had extremely high expectations for this movie, and when it was over I considered it a piece of trash.

The story is about city curruption and making money by taking over the water for the growing city of Los Angeles in 1930. It doesn't even sound interesting. Jack Nicholson is great as his role and it's fun to watch him in any movie, but that didn't make up for the screenplay. The biggest shocker in the movie was that Faye Dunaway's daughter was her sister as well, and her father, the man who was racketeering the water was the father. I could absoluetely care less, the child could have been anyone's and still had a zero effect. Nicholson is repedeatly chased by his old partner who secretly wants to arrest him because he thinks he murdered Faye Dunaway's wife, who was a city worker in charge of water, although Nicholson had absoluetely no motive, because he didn't know Dunaway before he took the case. The ending is horrible as well, it doesn't really matter.

If you want to see a good movie made in 1974 see Godfather Part II, it made Chinatown look like a pile of #####. Very overrated movie, doesn't deserve to be anywhere near it's place (#19) on AFI's top films of all time.

CHINATOWN

 
#1  711pts

27/22

My father taught me many things here - he taught me in this room. He taught me: keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Astonishingly unapproachable, bored me to tears

I have been forced to watch the Godfather trilogy by a friend of mine who thinks, as do most people, that they are the best thing since sliced bread. I found "The Godfather" just about watchable, but no more - I would have given up if my friend hadn't been there, but this was completely intolerable. I couldn't follow who the people were (and didn't care) I couldn't relate it to the previous film. I couldn't relate the 1930s stuff to the 1950s stuff. There is no excitement no tension, no nothing. A complete waste of an evening. And it's so interminably long too. I'm having trouble filling out my ten lines for the review, because the film left almost no impression on me - except that feeling that I used to get at school when I was forced to sit through the most boring lesson in the world. And God help me, I'm going to have to watch the third one. Like taking cod-liver oil. Ugh.

As overrated and boring as the first...if not more!

Well I watched the first Godfather film and wasn't impressed what so ever, completely overrated. However Part II is one of those films that people always go on about being a better sequel than the first...unfortunately it is even more boring and slow than the first.

Again its incredibly long, and literally nothing happens in this film! Only one 'big' event happens (Michael's home being shot up), which isn't that exciting, and the whole film slowly develops around this. There is also the De Niro 'becoming' Don Vito side story which I don't think adds anything to the story at all. He goes from being a normal guy to then shooting the main boss in the town then instantly somehow becomes The Don..with no retaliation what so ever, and it doesn't even show you him becoming The Don. The next time it cuts to his story he is already The Don. Maybe I missed a part (which is possible as I ended up messing around on the internet while watching as it was that boring)

Very Long and very boring.

While the first movie had a lot of freshness and intensity, this movie is explaining the rise of Vito and Michael with more detail and explanation, so that it is taking a much longer breathing to say it. The mixture of past and present may work for some, but it didn't work for me. I had the feeling the film was repeating itself constantly with past and present, even when the scenes with Vito Corleone weren't that good and a bit too cliché and strangely comical. I don't understand why this film is rated to high.

THE GODFATHER:  PART II

 
KarmaPolice said:
#1  711pts

27/22

My father taught me many things here - he taught me in this room. He taught me: keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Astonishingly unapproachable, bored me to tears

I have been forced to watch the Godfather trilogy by a friend of mine who thinks, as do most people, that they are the best thing since sliced bread. I found "The Godfather" just about watchable, but no more - I would have given up if my friend hadn't been there, but this was completely intolerable. I couldn't follow who the people were (and didn't care) I couldn't relate it to the previous film. I couldn't relate the 1930s stuff to the 1950s stuff. There is no excitement no tension, no nothing. A complete waste of an evening. And it's so interminably long too. I'm having trouble filling out my ten lines for the review, because the film left almost no impression on me - except that feeling that I used to get at school when I was forced to sit through the most boring lesson in the world. And God help me, I'm going to have to watch the third one. Like taking cod-liver oil. Ugh.

As overrated and boring as the first...if not more!

Well I watched the first Godfather film and wasn't impressed what so ever, completely overrated. However Part II is one of those films that people always go on about being a better sequel than the first...unfortunately it is even more boring and slow than the first.

Again its incredibly long, and literally nothing happens in this film! Only one 'big' event happens (Michael's home being shot up), which isn't that exciting, and the whole film slowly develops around this. There is also the De Niro 'becoming' Don Vito side story which I don't think adds anything to the story at all. He goes from being a normal guy to then shooting the main boss in the town then instantly somehow becomes The Don..with no retaliation what so ever, and it doesn't even show you him becoming The Don. The next time it cuts to his story he is already The Don. Maybe I missed a part (which is possible as I ended up messing around on the internet while watching as it was that boring)

Very Long and very boring.

While the first movie had a lot of freshness and intensity, this movie is explaining the rise of Vito and Michael with more detail and explanation, so that it is taking a much longer breathing to say it. The mixture of past and present may work for some, but it didn't work for me. I had the feeling the film was repeating itself constantly with past and present, even when the scenes with Vito Corleone weren't that good and a bit too cliché and strangely comical. I don't understand why this film is rated to high.

THE GODFATHER:  PART II
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Who are these people?

 
And now for the best of the rest (along with # of votes received)...

30-39pts:

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia - 5

Herbie Rides Again - 6

It's Alive - 3

Harry and Tonto - 3

The Great Gatsby - 4

20-29pts:

Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla - 3

The Sugarland Express - 2

Earthquake - 5

Dark Star - 2

Lords of Flatbush - 5

10-19pts:

Lenny - 2

The Yakuza - 2

Crazy Joe - 1

Big Bad Momma - 1

And Then There Were None- 1

Airport 1975 - 4

Foxy Brown - 1

The Streetfighter - 2

The Gambler - 1

Thieves Like Us - 1

Juggernaut - 1

Lacombe, Lucien - 1

Uptown Saturday Night - 1

The Phantom Liberty - 1

Single Digits:

Life and Times of Grizzly Adams

The Front Page

Freebie and Bean

Enigma of Kaspar Hauser

California Split

Celine and Julie Go Boating

Swept Away

Animals are Dreadful People

Cpt Kronos

Phantom of the Paradise

The Cars that Ate Paris

The Trial of Billy Jack

Zardoz

The Arena

Sister Street Fighter

Caged Heat

The Street Fighter Strikes Again

Phase IV

Gone in 60 Seconds

McQ

Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry

Flesh Gordon

The Odessa File

 
So Godfather 2 was on all the lists, and Chinatown off of only 1. 

Are there any other movies that are going to be this way?  I guess probably the first Godfather, but I can't think of many others off the top of my head that have a shot at a clean sweep of the voting.  

 
Thanks KP for running this.  I was focusing on baseball so I stayed away from the earlier movie poll threads but this was fun. 

I had no idea about the timing so I jumped in too early with my rankings.  The slow pace and spotlighting works in this format because it gives people a chance to fill in gaps in their experience.

I've only seen of the 4 of the 10 Best Picture nominees for 2010 so I may have to dig for Benji sequels.

 
Eephus said:
Thanks KP for running this.  I was focusing on baseball so I stayed away from the earlier movie poll threads but this was fun. 

I had no idea about the timing so I jumped in too early with my rankings.  The slow pace and spotlighting works in this format because it gives people a chance to fill in gaps in their experience.

I've only seen of the 4 of the 10 Best Picture nominees for 2010 so I may have to dig for Benji sequels.
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I should have focused more on baseball - my teams suck so far.  

Which 4 have you seen?  Scanning that list, I think only 4 - 5 of them are going to make my list.

 
KarmaPolice said:
And now for the best of the rest (along with # of votes received)...

30-39pts:

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia - 5

Herbie Rides Again - 6

It's Alive - 3

Harry and Tonto - 3

The Great Gatsby - 4

20-29pts:

Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla - 3

The Sugarland Express - 2

Earthquake - 5

Dark Star - 2

Lords of Flatbush - 5

10-19pts:

Lenny - 2

The Yakuza - 2

Crazy Joe - 1

Big Bad Momma - 1

And Then There Were None- 1

Airport 1975 - 4

Foxy Brown - 1

The Streetfighter - 2

The Gambler - 1

Thieves Like Us - 1

Juggernaut - 1

Lacombe, Lucien - 1

Uptown Saturday Night - 1

The Phantom Liberty - 1

Single Digits:

Life and Times of Grizzly Adams

The Front Page

Freebie and Bean

Enigma of Kaspar Hauser

California Split

Celine and Julie Go Boating

Swept Away

Animals are Dreadful People

Cpt Kronos

Phantom of the Paradise

The Cars that Ate Paris

The Trial of Billy Jack

Zardoz

The Arena

Sister Street Fighter

Caged Heat

The Street Fighter Strikes Again

Phase IV

Gone in 60 Seconds

McQ

Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry

Flesh Gordon

The Odessa File
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I'm the only one who voted for Foxy Brown?  Are you people blind?

 
KarmaPolice said:
#8  181pts

13/1

Ladies and gentlemen, you are all aware that a repulsive murderer has himself been repulsively, and, perhaps deservedly, murdered.

Read the book instead

It's horrible how many times that after a movie I sit thinking, "The book was so much better." I know that a four hour long movie would not be reasonable, but that is what it takes to properly adapt a book into a movie! I am a HUGE Agatha Christie fan, and "Murder on the Orient Express" was one of the first books I ever read by her. It has been a few years since then, so I've forgotten most of the characters, but the plot was so unique that of course it has stood out in my mind. While watching the movie, I was appalled at how little screen time the suspects got! How could anyone (who had not read the book) have formed any guesses as to who the killer was before it was revealed? You call that a mystery movie? If you can't form educated guesses, then who cares who the murderer is! Anyway, apart from not enough screen time for the suspects and not enough time for the movie in general, I did not enjoy this at all. Where were the clues? I sure didn't see any that would have lead me to believe that a certain person was guilty. And Agatha's famous red herrings were not in the least bit conclusive or suggestive!! Apart from that, Albert Finney did not resemble the Poirot I picture while reading Christie's novels. The Poirot I picture is plump, with, of course, the twirling mustache (it wasn't twirly enough in the movie), and a rounder, egg shaped head (as is always described to the reader). Apart from physical differences, "my" Poirot is kind, not at all modest, does not yell, and has a certain way of questioning his suspects so that it is more conversation than questioning. The Poirot in the movie was way too snappy with his questions, and he yelled!! He yelled!! The calm, cool, collected Poirot, does not yell! Poirot is what makes his novels interesting, and yet it was mostly Poirot who ruined this movie for me.

MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
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Wow, The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser is going to be so much higher than I expected.

 
KarmaPolice said:
I should have focused more on baseball - my teams suck so far.  

Which 4 have you seen?  Scanning that list, I think only 4 - 5 of them are going to make my list.
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Inception, Social Network, Kids Are Alright and Toy Story 3.

I don't watch many movies.  I'd rather read and listen to music.  Date nights for us are going to see bands.

 
My quick takeaways are:

1. Taking of Pelham 123 got screwed, that movie holds up pretty well

2. Mel Brooks had quite a year. Hats off to that.

3. The movies I liked the most vs consensus were Hearts and Minds and The Phantom of Liberty. 

Thanks KP, nice work. See you in 2010.

 
My list was close to the final countdown but nowhere near as close as I have been in previous years.  Interesting final countdown.

 
KarmaPolice said:
So Godfather 2 was on all the lists, and Chinatown off of only 1. 

Are there any other movies that are going to be this way?  I guess probably the first Godfather, but I can't think of many others off the top of my head that have a shot at a clean sweep of the voting.  
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The only two I can think of that are possible to hit every list are:   Jaws, and The Exorcist.

 
On The Rocks said:
The only two I can think of that are possible to hit every list are:   Jaws, and The Exorcist.
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I assumed liked the SW mention that it would have to be a drama movie.  Horror, sci-fi, comedy are more hit or miss and I could see people leaving them off.  That was my line of thinking anyway.  

Shawshank?  

 
KarmaPolice said:
I assumed liked the SW mention that it would have to be a drama movie.  Horror, sci-fi, comedy are more hit or miss and I could see people leaving them off.  That was my line of thinking anyway.  

Shawshank?  
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With 1989 coming up, maybe Glory could hit it.

 
otb_lifer said:
will rank "Suspiria" "Slap Shot" "Annie Hall" (just off top of me head, need to check for others) over SW.
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but will SW be on your list?  

Not sure how many will get 75% top votes like Godfather, but I was wondering if there are others that would be on all lists submitted.  

Probably when we get to the 40s/50s/60s by decade there might a couple heavy hitters like Casablanca, but not sure about individual year submissions. 

 
Review:

I had 4 movies landing in Single Digits.  Out of those, the ones I thought would score higher:

  • The Front Page.  Lemon and Matthau, how can you not like that?
  • Freebie and The Bean.  Alan Arkin never made a bad movie.
5 movies in the combined group of 10-19 and 20-29 points. Out of those, the ones I thought would score higher:

  • Uptown Saturday Night.  Cosby and Pottier?  Pure Gold.  (before the rapes of course)
  • And Then There Were None.  I don't even know if this movie is available to see anymore.  But it was one of the first murder mysteries that I remember seeing that led me to read the book.
  • Airport 1975.  I thought it was pretty good for it's time.
Glad to see Taking Pelham 123 got some love. I thought Walter Matthau was great in this movie.  It's one of my favorites of the dark dirty high crime NYC 70's genre.

The first time I watched The Parallax View I hated it.  I watched again sometime with in the past 10 years and really liked it a lot.

The Towering Inferno, oddly enough although the production is quite dated, I think the performances are still great.  McQueen and Newman.  Great pairing.

ETA:  I had Chinatown on my top 10 list, but I also think it's overrated as an "all time" movie.

 
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otb_lifer said:
#### McFly and Doc. 

seriously, what a sniveling little ####### #### MMc was - him and Bueller can go chomp a bag of Richards.  

no ... really cant stand that ####
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nice try, but you'll never approach my primacy as a BttF hatah. in fact, i'm Almost Famous for it

 
Damn I didn’t realize Wilder’s remake of the The Front Page was 74. I’ve got to see that based on how much I like Wilder, Lemon and His Girl Friday.

 
Ilov80s said:
Damn I didn’t realize Wilder’s remake of the The Front Page was 74. I’ve got to see that based on how much I like Wilder, Lemon and His Girl Friday.
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love your list just as much, and the play as well, but this was awwwwful. 

ETA: Reminds me of one of the first Legends bands i saw. It had Spencer Davis, an Iron Butterly guy, a Rare Earth and i got comped to it in a casino and i still walked out. Davis kept getting DTs, another guy wouldnt stop birddoggin, they were wandering off the stage & generally phoning it in. Front Page was the cinematic equivalent of that

 
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Don Quixote said:
At least you’ve got a month to fix that.

I’m going to go full Yankee if Glory does not end up there.
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Yeah, I have been using my insider knowledge of what is coming up to try to stay ahead so I can get some of these movies in.  There are a few that I want to watch for the list that I haven't seen or have little memory of:  Glory, Heathers, Do the Right Thing, Uncle Buck.   It's going to be hard to knock Loverboy and Road House off the list though.  

 
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