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FFA Movie Poll - 1984 Lists Due 7/29 (1 Viewer)

Somebody give me suggestions on possibly overlooked 1984 gems?  I'm not as enamored of this year as a lot of you seem to be. :(  

ETA:  @Eephus, I will watch The Go Between before any 1984 movies!

 
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krista4 said:
Somebody give me suggestions on possibly overlooked 1984 gems?  I'm not as enamored of this year as a lot of you seem to be. :(  

ETA:  @Eephus, I will watch The Go Between before any 1984 movies!
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Not much I'm afraid. I know of nothing more obscure than Paris, Texas. Pope of Greenwich Village & Albert Finney's devastating performance in an otherwise messy version of Malcolm Lowry's Under the Volcano that would be of any real interest to cinephiles.Even that year's Almodovar sucks. Jarmusch's debut Stranger in Paradise was ' 84 but i hated that cuz i was gambling for a living at the time and the gamblers in that ring totally false, but that wouldn't be a picking point for you. I loved Broadway Danny Rose & Starman (which i got a LOT of flak for) but i'd almost have to think you know those. The rest of 1984's treasures are painfully (and i mean painfully) obvious

 
krista4 said:
Somebody give me suggestions on possibly overlooked 1984 gems?  I'm not as enamored of this year as a lot of you seem to be. :(  

ETA:  @Eephus, I will watch The Go Between before any 1984 movies!
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Once Upon A Time In America is one of my all-time favorites.  

ETA:  The Killing Fields is a helluva movie.  Also, you could just rewatch "This Is Spinal Tap".  

 
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wikkidpissah said:
Not much I'm afraid. I know of nothing more obscure than Paris, Texas. Pope of Greenwich Village & Albert Finney's devastating performance in an otherwise messy version of Malcolm Lowry's Under the Volcano that would be of any real interest to cinephiles.Even that year's Almodovar sucks. Jarmusch's debut Stranger in Paradise was ' 84 but i hated that cuz i was gambling for a living at the time and the gamblers in that ring totally false, but that wouldn't be a picking point for you. I loved Broadway Danny Rose & Starman (which i got a LOT of flak for) but i'd almost have to think you know those. The rest of 1984's treasures are painfully (and i mean painfully) obvious
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Yeah, I've seen all the ones you've named.  Love Under the Volcano and Stranger in Paradise in particular, so you and I might be at odds on this year. ;)  

Binky The Doormat said:
Once Upon A Time In America is one of my all-time favorites.  
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Have not seen!  Will do.

 
KarmaPolice said:
@krista4 - just embrace the 80s cheese.  ;)
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:lol:   Some of them will get points from me - Ghostbusters, probably Gremlins, and I don't know if Spinal Tap is cheese but it'll be a top point-getter.  It's a quirk of mine that I don't have a sense of nostalgia.  At all.  So "I loved 16 Candles when I was a kid" doesn't do anything for me (just using that as a random example - I still kind of like that movie).

 
@krista4 -  have you seen Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind?   I have it on tap for a re-watch, but remember thinking it was one of my favorite Miyazaki movies.  

Also, have you seen any of:  Choose Me, Dangerous Moves, or A Sunday in the Country?  I haven't seen them, but wrote them down as I was digging deeper for this year and was going to order a couple through the library.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
@krista4 -  have you seen Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind?   I have it on tap for a re-watch, but remember thinking it was one of my favorite Miyazaki movies.  

Also, have you seen any of:  Choose Me, Dangerous Moves, or A Sunday in the Country?  I haven't seen them, but wrote them down as I was digging deeper for this year and was going to order a couple through the library.  
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I remember liking both Dangerous Moves and Choose Me but remember very little detail of why.  I might need to revisit.  I'll add that Miyazaki to my list!  Have not seen Sunday in the Country.

 
I did some research last night, and I am sad to report that pts for The Last Starfighter from me would just be out of nostalgia.  I still love the idea of the movie, but the f/x in the movie look Tron-level bad at times, and it's a bit cheesier than I remembered overall.    

 
KarmaPolice said:
I did some research last night, and I am sad to report that pts for The Last Starfighter from me would just be out of nostalgia.  I still love the idea of the movie, but the f/x in the movie look Tron-level bad at times, and it's a bit cheesier than I remembered overall.    
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Oh come ON! :angry:

The effects are part of the charm. And it has much more of a soul and way better pace than the horrible Tron.  The story is just all kinds of fun - a thing way too many sci-fi movies forget to be.

The computer graphics for the film were rendered by Digital Productions on a Cray X-MP supercomputer. The company created 27 minutes of effects for the film. This was considered an enormous amount of computer generated imagery at the time. For the 300 scenes containing computer graphics in the film, each frame of the animation contained an average of 250,000 polygons, and had a resolution of 3000 × 5000 36-bit pixels. Digital Productions estimated that using computer animation required only half the time, and one half to one third the cost of traditional special effects. The result was a cost of $14 million for a film that made about $21 million at the box office.

The Gunstar, the movie's final starfighter, comprises almost 400,000 polygons — four times the number of any object ever produced by computer graphics before then.
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I'm still holding out hope that an alien in disguise will one day reach out to me with the phrase "Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada."

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN!

 
Andy Dufresne said:
I'm still holding out hope that an alien in disguise will one day reach out to me with the phrase "Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Ko-Dan armada."

IT'S GONNA HAPPEN!
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As a kid I just wanted somebody who looked like Maggie to be that excited that I was kicking ### at a video game.  

 
KarmaPolice said:
I am sure it is, it's just that when I looked at it, the movie has too many of my movie mental blocks to get over:

- gangsters

- Joe Pesci 

- almost 4 hour run time.  

I could just about re-watch CHUD, Footloose, AND Breakin' if that amount of time. ;)
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The European Cut is over 3 1/2 hours but doesn't seem like it and is worth it.  Much better than the hackened U.S. version.  Plus

Joe Pesci isn't in it much, if that makes a difference.[/spolier]
 
The Terminator - 30

The Karate Kid - 30

The Last Starfighter - 30

The Neverending Story - 25

Star Trek III: The Search For Spock - 25

Ghostbusters - 25

Once Upon A Time In America - 5

Beverly Hills Cop - 5

Gremlins - 5

Blood Simple - 5

Red Dawn - 5

2010: The Year We Make Contact - 4

Amadeus - 1

The Natural - 1

Police Academy - 1

This is Spinal Tap - 1

Top Secret - 1

Revenge of the Nerds - 1

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Oh come ON! :angry:

The effects are part of the charm. And it has much more of a soul and way better pace than the horrible Tron.  The story is just all kinds of fun - a thing way too many sci-fi movies forget to be.
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I actually agree with all of that.  As I had kids, my barometer for movies from my childhood started becoming "could I show this to my kid and not be embarrassed and/or think he will genuinely like it?", and that factors into my ratings as far as if I think a movie holds up.   As I watched LS last night I had the thought that I was glad I watched that one by myself.  

 
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KarmaPolice said:
Was it this and Gremlins that forced them to re-think the ratings?
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Yep. Totally. 

I clearly remember the gasps in the theater during that famous scene in Temple Of Doom when that  priest rips that guys heart out. 

 
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One of my obscure five point films this time out is going to be "Choose Me", an odd uncategorizable movie from writer/director Alan Rudolph.  Rudolph is a Robert Altman protege who worked with Altman during one of his most fertile periods in the early 70s.  "Choose Me" has some of the quirks of "The Long Goodbye" and "Nashville" (Rudolph was Assistant Director on both) but has a style all its own.

"Choose Me" is structured like a sex farce (or a porno) where the main characters randomly slip in and out of bed with each other.  The characters are partially developed with pasts that may or may not be fantasies.  Similarly, the settings have one foot in 1980s LA but the other in a film noir dream world.   I'd probably classify it as a comedy because it's too absurd to be a drama but Rudolph's characters are oblivious to this.  They're all 30-something survivors of the 70s sexual revolution living in a world just before it was changed by AIDS.  The center of the love polygon is played by Genevieve Bujold, who's fantastic in a double role, Keith Carradine and a smoking hot Lesley Ann Warren.  Rae Dawn Chong is just awful though.

The selection of 1984 movies available for streaming is poor but lucky for you  "Choose Me" is on Amazon Prime.  Fittingly for a movie where its characters constantly deceive, Amazon's synopsis is wrong.  "Choose Me" isn't an easy movie to describe but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with undercover cops and drug cartels. 

 
Eephus said:
One of my obscure five point films this time out is going to be "Choose Me", an odd uncategorizable movie from writer/director Alan Rudolph.  Rudolph is a Robert Altman protege who worked with Altman during one of his most fertile periods in the early 70s.  "Choose Me" has some of the quirks of "The Long Goodbye" and "Nashville" (Rudolph was Assistant Director on both) but has a style all its own.

"Choose Me" is structured like a sex farce (or a porno) where the main characters randomly slip in and out of bed with each other.  The characters are partially developed with pasts that may or may not be fantasies.  Similarly, the settings have one foot in 1980s LA but the other in a film noir dream world.   I'd probably classify it as a comedy because it's too absurd to be a drama but Rudolph's characters are oblivious to this.  They're all 30-something survivors of the 70s sexual revolution living in a world just before it was changed by AIDS.  The center of the love polygon is played by Genevieve Bujold, who's fantastic in a double role, Keith Carradine and a smoking hot Lesley Ann Warren.  Rae Dawn Chong is just awful though.

The selection of 1984 movies available for streaming is poor but lucky for you  "Choose Me" is on Amazon Prime.  Fittingly for a movie where its characters constantly deceive, Amazon's synopsis is wrong.  "Choose Me" isn't an easy movie to describe but I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with undercover cops and drug cartels. 
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Joe Bob Briggs would label Choose Me "Welcome to L.A. Fu". I was tired of Rudolph's whole City of the One Night Stand act from that '76 epic and find the music from each their only grace.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Joe Bob Briggs would label Choose Me "Welcome to L.A. Fu". I was tired of Rudolph's whole City of the One Night Stand act from that '76 epic and find the music from each their only grace.
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I liked "Welcome to LA" too but I think "Choose Me" is the better film.  They seem less pretentious if you watch them as comedies.

The Teddy Pendergrass and Archie Shepp songs on the "Choose Me" soundtrack fit the movie perfectly.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Spider Pig

Spider Pig

Does whatever a Spider Pig does

Can he swing from a web?

No he can't

He's a pig

Look out!

Here comes the Spider Pig
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I took my (at the time) 7 year old step son to see this in the theatre - we used to always watch the show together in reruns and on Sunday Nights. There were scenes we're he literally fell out of his seat and rolled on the floor laughing his ### off (ok the "### off" part wasn't literal).

When he got the DVD for Christmas from Santa he turned to me with wide open eyes and said "now we can watch this ALL THE TIME" - and we did log a lot of hours on it.

I think this will get some major points from me - it was very well done and I likely laughed out loud watching it as any other comedy I can think of.

 
Eephus said:
Gary Busey was great in "The Woolly Mozart Story"
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We-he-hell that'll be the day

You write better than I, Salieri

That'll be the day, I don't make you cry, Salieri

Juuuust listen and watch as God spits in your eye

Salieri, that'll be the day-ay-ay you help me die

 
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