FFA Movie Poll - 1992 Lists due 5/13 (1 Viewer)

[Yankee23Fan]

Gabriel Caine: He's bigger than you are. He's tougher. He's faster. He's younger than you are. He hasn't fought 22 rounds today, but remember this... you are BLACK!

Honey Roy Palmer: What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Gabriel Caine: I don't know. I mean it's... I'm trying to inspire you. It's a Roots kinda thing. It's a motivation thing.

Honey Roy Palmer: Well, you're **** at motivation.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

This is where I go into my tirade that Diggstown was the worst marketed movie in the history of cinema and should be considered in the same breath with other entertaining conman movies like The Sting (no I'm not saying it is better or even as good as The Sting, but if Sting is a 10, Diggstown was a solid 7 and doesn't get any credit for that).

 

[Ilov80s]

This is where I go into my tirade that Diggstown was the worst marketed movie in the history of cinema and should be considered in the same breath with other entertaining conman movies like The Sting (no I'm not saying it is better or even as good as The Sting, but if Sting is a 10, Diggstown was a solid 7 and doesn't get any credit for that).

Ok I’ll have to try and check it out. I love a good heist film and had no idea that’s it was.

Just got Chaplin and Malcom X from the library. I haven’t seen X since I was about 12. I’m curious to see what I think of it now after all the Spike talk.

 

[TripItUp]

Tough crowd, people dogging a few good men and last of the Mohicans....these are solid flicks. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

@Scoresman -

I think the best way to treat those situations is just give points to the title.  Essentially it's like Blade Runner- there are multiple versions of the movie, most people said they prefer the Final Cut, but we aren't taking separate votes for different versions of movies.  That opens a whole new can of worms that I am sure we (I) don't want to deal with.  

I would say that going forward submit your list with the movie, and then just point out in the thread what version you are thinking of and which one people should watch.  

 

[Gr00vus]

Just got Chaplin

Robert Downey Jr. was fantastic in this. The movie went on a bit too long, but I still like it just for his performance.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Were you sick the day they taught film at film school?

Oh, now it's a "film"??

 

[KarmaPolice]

Ok I’ll have to try and check it out. I love a good heist film and had no idea that’s it was.

Just got Chaplin and Malcom X from the library. I haven’t seen X since I was about 12. I’m curious to see what I think of it now after all the Spike talk.

It was on my list, but I was staring at that 3hr+ run time. 

 

[Ilov80s]

It was on my list, but I was staring at that 3hr+ run time. 

Have you seen it before?

 

[KarmaPolice]

Have you seen it before?

Bits and pieces, but I haven't seen it start to finish.  

 

[TripItUp]

Just got Chaplin and Malcom X from the library. I haven’t seen X since I was about 12. I’m curious to see what I think of it now after all the Spike talk.

I loved Malcolm X, Denzel was made for that role.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

This is where I go into my tirade that Diggstown was the worst marketed movie in the history of cinema and should be considered in the same breath with other entertaining conman movies like The Sting (no I'm not saying it is better or even as good as The Sting, but if Sting is a 10, Diggstown was a solid 7 and doesn't get any credit for that).

I've never seen it and I love con movies. I'll keep an eye out for it based upon your recommendation.

 

[Ilov80s]

It was on my list, but I was staring at that 3hr+ run time. 

There are not many movies over 2.5 hours that are are must watch films, I believe in brevity, but I am both a movie guy and history guy. While this isn't Lawrence of Arabia, it might be the closest biopic of our time to flirt with that level. 

ETA And when I say flirt, I just mean flirt. LoA went all the way. 

 

[El Floppo]

There are not many movies over 2.5 hours that are are must watch films, I believe in brevity, but I am both a movie guy and history guy. While this isn't Lawrence of Arabia, it might be the closest biopic of our time to flirt with that level. 

ETA And when I say flirt, I just mean flirt. LoA went all the way. 

Wait... Are we talking Malcolm or Charlie here?

 

[Ilov80s]

Wait... Are we talking Malcolm or Charlie here?

Both

 

[KarmaPolice]

I watched tonight, and I still don't get the love for Glengarry. 

 

[El Floppo]

I watched tonight, and I still don't get the love for Glengarry. 

If you hadn't seen Mamet yet, it was something.

dont think I have it in me to rewatch it having seen too much Mamet. Marmot.

 

[otb_lifer]

I watched tonight, and I still don't get the love for Glengarry. 

yeah, it's no "Muppet Christmas"  

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I watched tonight, and I still don't get the love for Glengarry. 

The story itself is rather mundane, tired, cliche and boring. The play was famous for the foul language which was constant machine gun style in the worst New York business man stereotype possible.

But the acting in the movie was a clinic. The actors themselves were the movie, not the story. How they manipulated the script and became the characters. They took the stereotypes and turned them into archtypes- unashamed businessmen working under the stress of a job that dabbles in the illegal and managed to humanize them.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

My Cousin Vinny is a potential 30 point movie, right?  Is there anyone that hated that movie?  I've never met such a person.  In fact, I've never heard or seen anyone bash it.  Sure, there are cliché's aplenty in the movie and it follows a fairly typical narrative arc, but then so do most movies.

I'm not saying I am going to give it 30, because I just don't know yet.  But it wouldn't be absurd to consider it, right?

 

[otb_lifer]

My Cousin Vinny is a potential 30 point movie, right?  Is there anyone that hated that movie?  I've never met such a person.  In fact, I've never heard or seen anyone bash it.  Sure, there are cliché's aplenty in the movie and it follows a fairly typical narrative arc, but then so do most movies.

I'm not saying I am going to give it 30, because I just don't know yet.  But it wouldn't be absurd to consider it, right?

ranks right up there ....

... with "Mr. Saturday Night" and "Muppet Christmas" as horrific dreck  :X

hfs, just no 

 

[Yankee23Fan]

ranks right up there ....

... with "Mr. Saturday Night" and "Muppet Christmas" as horrific dreck  :X

hfs, just no 

Really?  (I grant we have vastly different tastes, so to each his own) What was bad about My Cousin Vinny?

 

[otb_lifer]

Really?  (I grant we have vastly different tastes, so to each his own) What was bad about My Cousin Vinny?

Tomei

Pesci

Macchio

the Jewish kid

Tomei

Tomei

will allow that Fred Gwynne stole the show, the rest was a glorified SNL skit that lasted waaaaayyyyyy too long. 

 

[Don Quixote]

Started watching Basic Instinct last night, as I had never watched it. I'm about halfway into it.  Is it really just the sexual content that gave it its attention?  The plot otherwise feels like a story out of CSI: Miami (without the "S" and with dumber investigators).

ETA: Showing how little I know about CSI, I thought the "S" stood for science.  So, I meant without the science.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Tomei

Pesci

Macchio

the Jewish kid

Tomei

Tomei

will allow that Fred Gwynne stole the show, the rest was a glorified SNL skit that lasted waaaaayyyyyy too long. 

Huh.  Fair enough. 

I disagree obviously.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Started watching Basic Instinct last night, as I had never watched it. I'm about halfway into it.  Is it really just the sexual content that gave it its attention?  The plot otherwise feels like a story out of CSI: Miami (without the "S" and with dumber investigators).

Yes.  

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The story itself is rather mundane, tired, cliche and boring. The play was famous for the foul language which was constant machine gun style in the worst New York business man stereotype possible.

But the acting in the movie was a clinic. The actors themselves were the movie, not the story. How they manipulated the script and became the characters. They took the stereotypes and turned them into archtypes- unashamed businessmen working under the stress of a job that dabbles in the illegal and managed to humanize them.

Yeah. Normally I have an F-bomb threshold that will make me turn of a movie (I'm looking at you,  Boondock Saints) but here no other word will do. The word itself is an expression of the desperation these wanna-be tough guys have in a world they can neither succeed in nor escape. 

 

[Don Quixote]

My Cousin Vinny is a potential 30 point movie, right?  Is there anyone that hated that movie?  I've never met such a person.  In fact, I've never heard or seen anyone bash it.  Sure, there are cliché's aplenty in the movie and it follows a fairly typical narrative arc, but then so do most movies.

I'm not saying I am going to give it 30, because I just don't know yet.  But it wouldn't be absurd to consider it, right?

I've got Vinny up there on my preliminary pass -- around 20 points or so.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Started watching Basic Instinct last night, as I had never watched it. I'm about halfway into it.  Is it really just the sexual content that gave it its attention?  The plot otherwise feels like a story out of CSI: Miami (without the "S" and with dumber investigators).

ETA: Showing how little I know about CSI, I thought the "S" stood for science.  So, I meant without the science.

Well, there wasnt CSI yet, so it worked. The genre was pretty much all down to one guy, a former Rolling Stone writer named Joe Esterhaus who got hired in Hollywood cuz he was a great party guest. He wrote the Glenn Close/Michael Douglas mystery Jagged Edge, which was a hit, so he kept re-writing the same story, but each time a little pornier - Jade, Basic Instinct, Sliver and then he said #### it and just wrote Showgirls. By now, he's probably scripting double-penetration scenarios in Tarzana.

 

[otb_lifer]

Yeah. Normally I have an F-bomb threshold that will make me turn of a movie (I'm looking at you,  Boondock Saints) but here no other word will do. The word itself is an expression of the desperation these wanna-be tough guys have in a world they can neither succeed in nor escape. 

spot the #### (had to) on 

as claustrophobic a flick as "Das Boot" - when a movie can convey that level of abstract confinement, without physically fleshing it, well ... that's a remarkable achievement. 

carry on. 

 

[Ilov80s]

My Cousin Vinny is a potential 30 point movie, right?  Is there anyone that hated that movie?  I've never met such a person.  In fact, I've never heard or seen anyone bash it.  Sure, there are cliché's aplenty in the movie and it follows a fairly typical narrative arc, but then so do most movies.

I'm not saying I am going to give it 30, because I just don't know yet.  But it wouldn't be absurd to consider it, right?

30 is exteme but it's a really nice, fun movie. 

 

[Ilov80s]

The story itself is rather mundane, tired, cliche and boring. The play was famous for the foul language which was constant machine gun style in the worst New York business man stereotype possible.

But the acting in the movie was a clinic. The actors themselves were the movie, not the story. How they manipulated the script and became the characters. They took the stereotypes and turned them into archtypes- unashamed businessmen working under the stress of a job that dabbles in the illegal and managed to humanize them.

Jack Lemmon masterclass in acting

 

[otb_lifer]

Jack Lemmon/Ed Harris/Al Pacino/Alan Arkin/Kevin SpaceyJonathan Pryce masterclass in acting

fyp because, well ... it needed it. 

(yeah, left Baldwin out - let others gush at his bit, to me it's overplayed.  to. death.  least favorite part of a simply astounding movie). 

 

[wikkidpissah]

Jack Lemmon masterclass in acting

And it's Mamet. Mamet absolutely liberated American theater with its beautiful rhythms and this is the only picture that captures the true Mamet patter yet managed to be at least palpable cinema. Writing movies (Untouchables, Verdict) eventually thinned out his patter and subsequently ruined his play-writing, so this is kind of the apex of the meaty, manly thing he was all about. If i were an aspiring, instead of expiring, writer i'd def be down for his course on Masterclass.

 

[Ilov80s]

fyp because, well ... it needed it. 

(yeah, left Baldwin out - let others gush at his bit, to me it's overplayed.  to. death.  least favorite part of a simply astounding movie). 

They are all good, but for me Lemmon shines the most. Baldwin got the easy part flashy role. He nailed it, but it was a softball. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

The story itself is rather mundane, tired, cliche and boring. The play was famous for the foul language which was constant machine gun style in the worst New York business man stereotype possible.

But the acting in the movie was a clinic. The actors themselves were the movie, not the story. How they manipulated the script and became the characters. They took the stereotypes and turned them into archtypes- unashamed businessmen working under the stress of a job that dabbles in the illegal and managed to humanize them.

I agree 100% with this post and what others are saying about the moments of great dialogue and the acting.  The bolded is the sticking point for me, and I just find the movie as a whole repetitive and exhausting to watch.    There will be moments that pull me, but then it gets back to 20mins of calling each other ##########s and #####ing about needing better leads.  To me it very much feels like a great idea for a short story that gets dragged out for too long.  

 

[otb_lifer]

I agree 100% with this post and what others are saying about the moments of great dialogue and the acting.  The bolded is the sticking point for me, and I just find the movie as a whole repetitive and exhausting to watch.    There will be moments that pull me, but then it gets back to 20mins of calling each other ##########s and #####ing about needing better leads.  To me it very much feels like a great idea for a short story that gets dragged out for too long.  

good lawdy lawd   just horrible. 

"Muppet ####### Christmas"?

 

[El Floppo]

no particular order, here's the first batch of movies I've culled out. I'm expecting some of these aren't 1992 (foreign ones most likely)

I'm missing documentaries... could use a good source for those.

Spoiler

• Orlando
  
• Wayne's World
  
• Juice
  
• Night on Earth
  
• My Cousin Vinny
  
• Howards End
  
• Mediterraneo
  
• Delicatessen
  
• The Player
  
• The Adjuster
  
• Death Becomes Her
  
• Unforgiven
  
• Bob Roberts
  
• La Double Vie de Véronique
  
• School Ties
  
• The Last of the Mohicans
  
• Glengarry Glen Ross
  
• Reservoir Dogs
  
• Zebrahead
  
• Flirting
  
• Malcolm X
  
• Passion Fish
  
• Romper Stomper
  
• Gas Food Lodging
  

 

[otb_lifer]

no particular order, here's the first batch of movies I've culled out. I'm expecting some of these aren't 1992 (foreign ones most likely)

I'm missing documentaries... could use a good source for those.

Spoiler

• Orlando
  
• Wayne's World
  
• Juice
  
• Night on Earth
  
• My Cousin Vinny
  
• Howards End
  
• Mediterraneo
  
• Delicatessen
  
• The Player
  
• The Adjuster
  
• Death Becomes Her
  
• Unforgiven
  
• Bob Roberts
  
• La Double Vie de Véronique
  
• School Ties
  
• The Last of the Mohicans
  
• Glengarry Glen Ross
  
• Reservoir Dogs
  
• Zebrahead
  
• Flirting
  
• Malcolm X
  
• Passion Fish
  
• Romper Stomper
  
• Gas Food Lodging
  

the last one you have listed is gonna score very highly with me ... Skye/Balk were amazing, just an absolute gem of  under the radar goodness. 

ETA: glad to see some love for it

 

[El Floppo]

the last one you have listed is gonna score very highly with me ... Skye/Balk were amazing, just an absolute gem of  under the radar goodness. 

ETA: glad to see some love for it

I feel like there was a subset of indie, in the desert/small-town quirky americana movies made around this time that were all worthwhile, including this one. 

 

[KarmaPolice]

no particular order, here's the first batch of movies I've culled out. I'm expecting some of these aren't 1992 (foreign ones most likely)

I'm missing documentaries... could use a good source for those.

Spoiler

• Orlando
  
• Wayne's World
  
• Juice
  
• Night on Earth
  
• My Cousin Vinny
  
• Howards End
  
• Mediterraneo
  
• Delicatessen
  
• The Player
  
• The Adjuster
  
• Death Becomes Her
  
• Unforgiven
  
• Bob Roberts
  
• La Double Vie de Véronique
  
• School Ties
  
• The Last of the Mohicans
  
• Glengarry Glen Ross
  
• Reservoir Dogs
  
• Zebrahead
  
• Flirting
  
• Malcolm X
  
• Passion Fish
  
• Romper Stomper
  
• Gas Food Lodging
  

@El Floppo - I haven't checked all of them, but Veronique and Delicatessen are 1991s.  

 

[otb_lifer]

I feel like there was a subset of indie, in the desert/small-town quirky americana movies made around this time that were all worthwhile, including this one. 

and they were great theater experiences ... flicks like that, and the ilk/genre of which you speak, were incredible excuses to sit in a jernt like Two Boots Pioneer on a lazy summer Sunday - hip flask at the ready. 

that kinda ambience is so few and far between these days ... ####, you couldn't pay me to sit up in some of these ####hole 'plexes with their ####### blockbusters.  

GTFO. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

no particular order, here's the first batch of movies I've culled out. I'm expecting some of these aren't 1992 (foreign ones most likely)

I'm missing documentaries... could use a good source for those.

Spoiler

• Orlando
  
• Wayne's World
  
• Juice
  
• Night on Earth
  
• My Cousin Vinny
  
• Howards End
  
• Mediterraneo
  
• Delicatessen
  
• The Player
  
• The Adjuster
  
• Death Becomes Her
  
• Unforgiven
  
• Bob Roberts
  
• La Double Vie de Véronique
  
• School Ties
  
• The Last of the Mohicans
  
• Glengarry Glen Ross
  
• Reservoir Dogs
  
• Zebrahead
  
• Flirting
  
• Malcolm X
  
• Passion Fish
  
• Romper Stomper
  
• Gas Food Lodging
  

first time Orlando's been on top of anything since Disney World was built. weirdest flick i ever liked...

 

[KarmaPolice]

Any plans for research this weekend?

I have a few more in my pile.  Seems with the comments that I can ditch Bad Lt.   I am going to add a couple from Floppo's list for next week too, so now what I have is:

Belle Epoque, Romper Stomper, Lessons of Darkness, Death Becomes Her, Gas Food Lodging, and Passion Fish.  

I have also started to get in my movies for 2005.     Another VERY good year, IMO.  

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Spoiler

30 - Last of the Mohicans

30 - Aladdin

30 - Army of Darkness

30 - A Few Good Men

20 - Patriot Games

6 - Far & Away

6 - Glengarry Glen Ross

6 - Under Seige

6 - Of Mice & Men

6 - Reservoir Dogs

6 - Unforgiven

4 - Alien 3

4 - My Cousin Vinny

4 - Universal Soldier

2 - Death Becomes Her

2 - Freejack

2 - Lorenzo's Oil

2 - A Midnight Clear

2 - A River Runs Through It

2 - Sneakers

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Spoiler

30 - Last of the Mohicans

30 - Aladdin

30 - Army of Darkness

30 - A Few Good Men

20 - Patriot Games

6 - Far & Away

6 - Glengarry Glen Ross

6 - Under Seige

6 - Of Mice & Men

6 - Reservoir Dogs

6 - Unforgiven

4 - Alien 3

4 - My Cousin Vinny

4 - Universal Soldier

2 - Death Becomes Her

2 - Freejack

2 - Lorenzo's Oil

2 - A Midnight Clear

2 - A River Runs Through It

2 - Sneakers

Jeebus my list is going to be so different from this it's almost like we really aren't the same person.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

I have also started to get in my movies for 2005.     Another VERY good year, IMO.  

My first glance at the year......... my initial impression is that it is the worst year we've done so far.  I only saw 5 movies that made me think, yeah that gets points.

Again, just a quick first glance.

 

[Scoresman]

Spoiler

Alien 3 - Assembly Cut                       30

Wayne's World                             30

Army of Darkness                         30

Reservior Dogs                             30

Dracula                                         20        

Aladdin                                         15

Basic Instinct                                15

Patriot Games                              10

Muppet Christmas Carol              10

The Mighty Ducks                        10

Alien 3 only gets 30 for the Assembly cut version.  Otherwise it maybe gets 5.  Basic Instinct gets 15 solely for the early teen jerkoff material it gave me.  

 

[wikkidpissah]

Spoiler

30 - Last of the Mohicans

30 - Aladdin

30 - Army of Darkness

30 - A Few Good Men

20 - Patriot Games

6 - Far & Away

6 - Glengarry Glen Ross

6 - Under Seige

6 - Of Mice & Men

6 - Reservoir Dogs

6 - Unforgiven

4 - Alien 3

4 - My Cousin Vinny

4 - Universal Soldier

2 - Death Becomes Her

2 - Freejack

2 - Lorenzo's Oil

2 - A Midnight Clear

2 - A River Runs Through It

2 - Sneakers

the Tom O'Cruise movie?! Really?!?!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

the Tom O'Cruise movie?! Really?!?!

I like Cruise. And Nicole Kidman.

It didn't score high. Not my favorite movie year save the ones that got the most points.