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FFA Movie Poll - 2005 Countdown Monday!! (1 Viewer)

KarmaPolice said:
No surprise, but if I had to limit the suggestions I would suggest taking a stab at one of the two Kubrick movies if somebody hasn't seen them - Paths of Glory or The Killing.  I know Kubrick rubs people the wrong way as we saw in the 1999 poll, but I think (talking to my limited sample of people) these are two of his that get passed over, and people's exposure to him is through stuff like 2001, Clockwork, The Shining, Dr. Strangelove.  Even as a fan, I could see those being polarizing.   These are just short, focused, beautifully shot and well acted movies.  Paths would be my first choice to see of the two, but I also think it's the one that people are more likely to have seen.  
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Love both as well. Paths of Glory is an all-time favorite for me.

You, or anyone, seen Killer’s Kiss? I may trying watching as I think that and Fear and Desire are the only two Kubrick’s I haven’t seen.

 
Ilov80s said:
I’ll post some more as we get closer. Now I’m prepping for 71
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Yeah, I hope people will repost this stuff when we have a 1955-59 thread.  Right now I'm still mired in 2005.

Speaking of mired, I watched The Descent last night.  Thought it was very good for its genre.  The all-female cast was a cool change, though I wish I could have distinguished among the blondes better - I kept having to skip back to try to figure out who was who and what was going on.  The claustrophobic feel to it was so well done that I wondered if I might have liked the movie as much, or maybe even more, if there hadn't been flesh-eating creatures at all and was just that dread of being stuck two miles underground trying to get out.  In that sense, I think I enjoyed the "build-up" first half of the movie more than the second, though the second gave a lot of great "oh ####" moments.  Interesting dynamics among the characters and the ethical quandaries they were in.  I hope to squeeze in some points for it on my list.

Two minor quibbles:  (1) their gear and clothing for caving :lmao: :lmao:  , and (2) the dialogue before they got to the cave was stilted - women don't really talk to eachother like that.

 
Ilov80s said:
Did we ever get an official ruling on Brick?
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KP posted that it's 2005.  While on the topic of Brick, convo with my wife last night...

W: What are you watching?

DQ: Brick.

W: What's that?

DQ: It's like an old film noir but with teenagers.

W: (under her breath) You are so weird.

DQ: Would you like to watch something else?

W: OMG, YES.

 
Don Quixote said:
KP posted that it's 2005.  While on the topic of Brick, convo with my wife last night...

W: What are you watching?

DQ: Brick.

W: What's that?

DQ: It's like an old film noir but with teenagers.

W: (under her breath) You are so weird.

DQ: Would you like to watch something else?

W: OMG, YES.
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Yeah, my wife's taste in movies has zero overlap with mine. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Yeah, my wife's taste in movies has zero overlap with mine. 
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Yeah, I find myself watching a lot of these when she is out or already in bed. I ended up getting only 30 minutes into it, as I flipped on something neutral and then watched the end of the Warriors-Rockets later. I’ll have to watch the rest this weekend.

 
wikkidpissah said:
Straw Dogs (hope you havent seen the remake) is the '71 movie that i'd most want the young'uns to see.  My Auntie Mary - who sponsored the entire Doyle family to America, 2X2 like Noah' Ark, into the same scullery/handyman jobs she oversaw running a big house - left a proviso in her will that i got a roundtrip ticket to Dublin every summer til my majority, so i knew well the territory. Peckinpah perfectly captured the Irish village mentality and, for my money, the violence of man worked better in that scenario than in any of his westerns. Plus i dont think the urge from seeing a woman onscreen ever took longer to leave me sac than Susan George in that, doncha know...

Tried to put a reference list together for 1955-9, but i wrote almost 40 names from '55 alone before i quit, so i'll just have to take another tack.




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Dirty Mary.

 
Don Quixote said:
KP posted that it's 2005.  While on the topic of Brick, convo with my wife last night...

W: What are you watching?

DQ: Brick.

W: What's that?

DQ: It's like an old film noir but with teenagers.

W: (under her breath) You are so weird.

DQ: Would you like to watch something else?

W: OMG, YES.
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Ilov80s said:
Yeah, my wife's taste in movies has zero overlap with mine. 
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Same. She's an anti-snob snob...unless it's something like fashion or travel that's she's snobby about.

 
Don Quixote said:
Yeah, I find myself watching a lot of these when she is out or already in bed. I ended up getting only 30 minutes into it, as I flipped on something neutral and then watched the end of the Warriors-Rockets later. I’ll have to watch the rest this weekend.
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Same. 10:30-end of movie is Daddy time. 

 
I think I am done with 2005 and will be sending in my vote today. I have to devote some time to 71 (man it sucks)

 
wikkidpissah said:
UHate70s?
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lol I think so. The great 70s films (Chinatown, GF, Deer Hunter, etc.) are absolutely among my favorites ever. When the 70s got a movie right, they produce something for the ages. However, once I get past the top few films of each year, I find the 70s to kind of stink. The comedies are rarely funny. Lots of the movies just seem excessively crude. It's kind of the opposite of the 80s films. The 70s have some amazing highs but they fall off fast. The 80s rarely reach similar heights, but it's much more gradual slope down the yearly rankings. 

 
TripItUp said:
totally agree 70s comedies suck...not sure why either.  :shrug:
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MASH and Blazing Saddles are just offensive. I'm really not some SJW needing a safe space, it's just they aren't funny. Not all 70s comedies are bad though- there are a few that really stand out. Again, when the 70s get a comedy right (Holy Grail or Young Frankenstein for example) they just crush it. 

 
Ilov80s said:
lol I think so. The great 70s films (Chinatown, GF, Deer Hunter, etc.) are absolutely among my favorites ever. When the 70s got a movie right, they produce something for the ages. However, once I get past the top few films of each year, I find the 70s to kind of stink. The comedies are rarely funny. Lots of the movies just seem excessively crude. It's kind of the opposite of the 80s films. The 70s have some amazing highs but they fall off fast. The 80s rarely reach similar heights, but it's much more gradual slope down the yearly rankings. 
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This may be a more fetid pile of Boomerness than even hippievalues™ or getoffmylawn, but the most wonderful thing about my time of birth is that it put me in a position to understand all media. My preceptors gave me an appreciation and respect for humankind's most primitive attempts at moving pictures and hi-fidelity sound and i was there right between the ages of wonder and wisdom as it grew up. The thing that made the 70s great is that the tech began to catch up with the still-fairly-new freedom to explore and gave everything a "first time" feel.

But the most important thing is that i was in on every joke, saw each and every advancement, bit of humor and question asked for what it was. It would be unfortunate to have already seen paintcan 100x the first time one saw the beartrap in Straw Dogs because it's hard to get worked up as i did over the inventiveness of a threatened nebbish in over his head and out of his element when you've seen an 8yo do it as a lark.

 
wikkidpissah said:
This may be a more fetid pile of Boomerness than even hippievalues™ or getoffmylawn, but the most wonderful thing about my time of birth is that it put me in a position to understand all media. My preceptors gave me an appreciation and respect for humankind's most primitive attempts at moving pictures and hi-fidelity sound and i was there right between the ages of wonder and wisdom as it grew up. The thing that made the 70s great is that the tech began to catch up with the still-fairly-new freedom to explore and gave everything a "first time" feel.

But the most important thing is that i was in on every joke, saw each and every advancement, bit of humor and question asked for what it was. It would be unfortunate to have already seen paintcan 100x the first time one saw the beartrap in Straw Dogs because it's hard to get worked up as i did over the inventiveness of a threatened nebbish in over his head and out of his element when you've seen an 8yo do it as a lark.
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Well put and very true. Part of what is lost on a millenial when it comes to the 70s is that much of what is being done in the 70s has been done repeatedly afterwards. Although, for me, there is something else to it. There are a lot more films fromthe 40s and 50s that I like than the 70s. So for me, it isn't just that I have seen it all before. It's that I don't always care for the 70s take on the things. I did like Straw Dogs though and I feel like that story could work today (liberal cuck fights back against the "alt right" or maybe even better with the female lead #metoo being the one getting vengence). 

 
Ilov80s said:
Well put and very true. Part of what is lost on a millenial when it comes to the 70s is that much of what is being done in the 70s has been done repeatedly afterwards. Although, for me, there is something else to it. There are a lot more films fromthe 40s and 50s that I like than the 70s. So for me, it isn't just that I have seen it all before. It's that I don't always care for the 70s take on the things. I did like Straw Dogs though and I feel like that story could work today (liberal cuck fights back against the "alt right" or maybe even better with the female lead #metoo being the one getting vengence). 
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The 70s demystified so the 80s & beyond could remystify, but the product of that indeed aged fast

I've addressed this before in political threads, but a person your age really has NO idea how constrained society was when i entered the world. Social standing, even in the poorest sectors of postwar America, was the most important factor of life. From the begin of civilization well into the 1950s, if even your cousin or brother-in-law got fired or divorced or tested community standards in any way with "unacceptable" displays of individuality, your entire family suffered the consequences. There was awesome responsibility to even being a child because of the danger that anything one did could brand one's entire family with scarlet letters or cause them to be blackballed from enjoying even the simplest of life's "privileges". It was a very effective way to keep the peace, but the lack of inclusiveness behind it eventually undermined that control when financial independence allowed us to branch out from our neighborhoods and social strata. I think its why even the most liberal Boomer is uncomfortable with wokeness - even if the sentiment is correct, the puritanism of the handslapping going on these days strikes that old chord.

Nevertheless, in the single generation between 6 studios controlling all movies and 6 corporations controlling all media, half of cinema's purpose was to show others how to throw off the shackles of what was inhibiting each of our desired behaviors and determined courses. That was unprecedented and extraordinary, but it didn't lend itself to entertaining future audiences who have earned or benefited from that freedom of choice. The 1970s saw American society running like Phoebe for the only era where it wouldnt be considered a fetish.

 
Not to pile on, but I am right in step with ilov80s about the 70s.   A few of my all time favorites are from the decade, there are top heavy years,  but after I dig about 5-6 deep I hit a wall and haven't loved much of the new stuff I have tried in the last couple days.  I find myself much more interested and excited to attack my 50s pile. 

 
KarmaPolice said:
Not to pile on, but I am right in step with ilov80s about the 70s.   A few of my all time favorites are from the decade, there are top heavy years,  but after I dig about 5-6 deep I hit a wall and haven't loved much of the new stuff I have tried in the last couple days.  I find myself much more interested and excited to attack my 50s pile. 
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It definitely was a decade of experimentation and pushing boundaries- a new sense of freedom as Wikkid talks about. Often when pushing boundaries and tasting freedom for the first time, mistakes are made. 

 
Also lots be honest, the 60s weren’t that great- especially for US films. So the 70s were a well needed reset. 

 
I counted up my current 2005 list and have 56 movies on there.  I guess I'd better stop watching more of them.  :lmao:  

Last week I did check out Three Burials of Something I Can't Spell (very good and particularly well constructed) and L'enfant (OMG OMG OMG so depressing but brilliant). 

 
Touch of Evil just started on TCM, for anyone needing it for some late 50s research. Although the best part (the opening tracking shot) already happened.

ETA: And my wife just made me turn it off for Kimmel and Kevin Hart laughing harder than anybody at his own jokes. :kicksrock: At least I’ve already seen the movie.

 
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Don Quixote said:
Watched A History of Violence today. That one was pretty good. Definitely getting a high score from me.
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This is the one 2005 movie I haven't seen that I've meant to watch for this draft. Still haven't done it yet. Maybe tomorrow night. I really enjoy Viggo in just about everything - even ####### Peter Jackson's miserable Lord Of The Rings movies.

 
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This is my least-commercial list yet.  Six foreign movies, eight documentaries, four tiny independent movies, and two films that made some money.  I predict I might have as few as one of my choices make the list! :lmao:  

Tier one - 15 points each:

Cache

Me and You and Everyone We Know

Paradise Now

The Beat that My Heart Skipped

13 Tzameti

The Death of Mr. Lazarescu

Murderball

Grizzly Man

49 Up

L’enfant

Tier two - 5 points each

The Devil and Daniel Johnston

Leonard Cohen:  I’m Your Man

Enron:  The Smartest Guys in the Room

Mad Hot Ballroom

Street Fight

Man Push Cart

The Constant Gardener

Munich

Brick

The World’s Fastest Indian
 
I remember trying the first UP movie a few years ago and finding it sort of dull, but so many people have love for the series that I feel like I probably should try to go back and give it another go.  

 
krista4 said:
This is my least-commercial list yet.  

Tier one - 15 points each:

Cache

Me and You and Everyone We Know

Paradise Now

The Beat that My Heart Skipped

13 Tzameti

The Death of Mr. Lazarescu

Murderball

Grizzly Man

49 Up

L’enfant

Tier two - 5 points each

The Devil and Daniel Johnston

Leonard Cohen:  I’m Your Man

Enron:  The Smartest Guys in the Room

Mad Hot Ballroom

Street Fight

Man Push Cart

The Constant Gardener

Munich

Brick

The World’s Fastest Indian
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That is quite a statement coming from you.   Glad you liked L'Enfant.  

 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire   20

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory   20

Batman Begins   20

Enron:  The Smartest Guys in the Room   14

Kicking & Screaming   14

Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith   14

49 Up    14

The Aristocrats   14

The 40-Year-Old Virgin   10

Capote   10

Broken Flowers   8

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy   8

March of the Penguins   6

Walk the Line   6

Thank You For Smoking   6

New York Doll   6

The Devil and Daniel Johnston3

The Chronicles of Narnia:   3

Syriana   2

Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit   2

 
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