Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah and the girl always made the absolute worst decision possible like they always do in horror movies. I just thought they used those cliches in an interesting way and actually leveraged them with the audience.
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FFA Official Horror Movie Thread Catching up on Shudder and Various Streaming Platforms (6 Viewers)
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Just watched this. It was good. Started off just a tad slow but picked up pace throughout. Good origin story. Makes me want to watch X again knowing the backstory. Will watch the third installment. Agree on 4/5.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Without getting too far into the weeds, I think the way this movie does social commentary is commendable. A bad version of this movie -- and God knows there are scores of such movies and television shows out there as we speak -- would just lecture the audience for 100 minutes about male privilege and racial dynamics in 2022 America. The way Barbarian does it is more interesting and organic.
I mean, Tess is obviously right when she explains the housing situation to Keith, and Keith knows it. If she had arrived at the house first, of course she wouldn't have let him in. No woman in her right mind would do so. But if he were in her shoes, he would happily accept an offer to stay overnight in with this stranger because he doesn't have anything to worry about -- he never faces any of the danger that's always lurking in the background for her. And the rest of the movie goes on to pay off that observation, obviously.
This is a theme of the movie: nobody really knows anybody else. Tess is understandably suspicious of Keith (so is the audience), but he turns out to be a genuinely good guy. Tess goes back to save AJ thinking that he's an innocent victim like her, but the audience knows that he's an unsympathetic scumbag who'll probably sell her out at the first opportunity. Tess sees the homeless guy as a threat when he's trying to help her. The cops see Tess as a vagrant when she's actually a woman in danger. Nobody sees Frank for who he is. The difference is that men don't (usually) face the same downside risk of getting these calls wrong, which explains their approach to risk-taking elsewhere in the movie.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Watching Barbarian, of course I naturally put myself in Keith's shoes. If I were him, I would probably behave exactly the same way he did. I don't want to turn some poor woman away into a Dark And Stormy Night with nowhere to go, so of course I'd invite her to stay at my AirBnB with me, but I'm self-aware enough to know that this looks sketchy as hell, so I'd probably be trying really hard to put Tess and ease and reassure her that I'm not trying to pull anything. Which would lead to super-awkward moments like making a big deal out of opening the wine in front of her so she knows it hasn't been tampered with, which just makes everybody that much more skeeved out when you say it out loud, revealing that you were thinking like a serial killer in the first place. It's basically impossible as a guy to put anybody at ease in this kind of situation even if you're just trying to be a good Samaritan. Living in a low-trust society kind of sucks for everyone.
Edit: On an unrelated note, the other thing I really like about this movie is the boldness of completely upending the storyline at the end of act one. I like movies that take chances in their approach to story-telling, and Barbarian does a nice job of using this technique not simply as a gimmick but as a key way of making its point (that we can't always trust our gut/intuition/expectation). I'm trying to think of any similar movies that did something like this so effectively, and it's a pretty short list. Psycho is the obvious one that everybody would know.
Edit: On an unrelated note, the other thing I really like about this movie is the boldness of completely upending the storyline at the end of act one. I like movies that take chances in their approach to story-telling, and Barbarian does a nice job of using this technique not simply as a gimmick but as a key way of making its point (that we can't always trust our gut/intuition/expectation). I'm trying to think of any similar movies that did something like this so effectively, and it's a pretty short list. Psycho is the obvious one that everybody would know.
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jamny
Footballguy
Barbarian spoilers!
For me its about realism. I can't put myself in Keith's shoes because if I pulled up to an Airbnb in a warzone, I would have kept going. I can excuse Tess because she, along with the audience, didn’t realize how bad the neighborhood was until the next morning. But Keith should not have let her stay in such a dangerous area. There's no way there wasn't a single room available somewhere and Tess should have packed her bags to take on her job interview and found a room while in the city.
When Keith finally does go downstairs, he would have come right back up after seeing the camera room. It's an Airbnb, not some secret room in your own house. Time to call the cops and sit upstairs to wait.
We didn't need to sit through the whole backstory of the Apple commercial guy to establish that he needed money so bad the he was willing to overlook the camera room and cages completely while he obliviously goes measuring down to the dungeon. Look around doofus, the house is in a craphole neighborhood. No one is buying this house no matter how big it is! And I would have rather they made him seem like a nice guy for the turn instead of being an obvious douche.
And maybe Tess could have told the cops to look up her license plates of her nice car so maybe they'd believe she wasn't some crazy crackhead.
I could go on. I love a good horror movie more than anything but if you're not going to be genuinely scary at least make it realistic so I can feel like I could be in that situation.
For me its about realism. I can't put myself in Keith's shoes because if I pulled up to an Airbnb in a warzone, I would have kept going. I can excuse Tess because she, along with the audience, didn’t realize how bad the neighborhood was until the next morning. But Keith should not have let her stay in such a dangerous area. There's no way there wasn't a single room available somewhere and Tess should have packed her bags to take on her job interview and found a room while in the city.
When Keith finally does go downstairs, he would have come right back up after seeing the camera room. It's an Airbnb, not some secret room in your own house. Time to call the cops and sit upstairs to wait.
We didn't need to sit through the whole backstory of the Apple commercial guy to establish that he needed money so bad the he was willing to overlook the camera room and cages completely while he obliviously goes measuring down to the dungeon. Look around doofus, the house is in a craphole neighborhood. No one is buying this house no matter how big it is! And I would have rather they made him seem like a nice guy for the turn instead of being an obvious douche.
And maybe Tess could have told the cops to look up her license plates of her nice car so maybe they'd believe she wasn't some crazy crackhead.
I could go on. I love a good horror movie more than anything but if you're not going to be genuinely scary at least make it realistic so I can feel like I could be in that situation.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Also I don't think giant super powerful naked lactating demon moms are realistic.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I fully agree. For me part of the magic is accepting a situation as fully happening regardless of the reality.
jamny
Footballguy
Obviously not the horror elements of it always. Much like in The Walking Dead, there needs to be realistic actions by the characters to make it believable. Take the movie The Train to Busan for instance. I don't think there was a single thing any of the characters did that that made me say "oh, come on!" All the things that went on were things I probably would have done. In Barbarian, I spent most of the movie shaking my head at what they were doing. It wasn't realistic. We were laughing more than scared.
Would you have been fine if Tess was all of a sudden able to fly? No, that wouldn't be realistic.
And how does Tess survive that fall and even land on the creature when Tess fell first?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree that the movie is full of the kinds of choices that only a person in a horror movie would make. I think it was aware of that and doing it intentionally for effect.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Horror is a genre that's always going to struggle a little with suspension of disbelief. For me personally, Barbarian fell right in the sweet spot where the human characters behaved in ways that made sense to me given their character, the situation, and needs of the plot. If other folks watching the movie found it non-credible, it's probably just one of those "different strokes" things. Lots of people passionately hated Blair Witch Project -- I loved it. Nothing wrong with people have different preferences in how they like scary movies.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I thought it was awesome until the creature become invincible and crashed through a wall.
ZADO
Footballguy
I kept waiting for another stronger creature to pop up after the homeless guy said that ''She isnt even the worst thing down there''
I guess he meant the serial killer .
This was discussed previously. I hated the ending. No way that happens and I'm still alive to think about it.
As far as Barbarian goes, I didn't hate it, but I don't get all the love either.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
We watched this finally last night because of the buzz around it. I figure it has been out long enough we can talk about it. If not, don't read further.
The actions of the parents in that movie were just unforgivable. I hated both of them--she was a complete Karen and he was this effeminate little wimp. Let's see, the other guy stiffs you at the restaurant, watches your wife shower, watches you and your wife get it on and then either him or his wife takes your daughter into their bed and you find her sleeping next to a naked guy.. It is all over at that point--no questions. You are lucky I didn't beat you into a pile of mush at that point, but noooooo,, we are convinced to stay. Then we get to the car scene--I am not a tough violent guy, but someone is dying in that car before you hurt my kid--even if I had to purposefully crash the car, It wasn't like either of the bad people had guns--so it was an even playing field Then the ending, I get people like the realism of them giving up (and I guess considering their actions throughout the movie, I can see it), but you, as a man, are just going to allow that to now happen to your wife. I know people say, "Well you would not know how you would act," but I can say with confidence how I wouldn't act. Just a complete maddening movie. I left this movie sort of like how I felt after watching Funny Games (but at least the parents in that movie TRIED to do something and the bad guys had a gun to boot).
Todem
Footballguy
I agree….and part of the shock is how they just submitted. And when the Dad asks why are you doing this….the guy simply said “because you let me”.
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prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Exactly, that was part of the point. They stayed true to character throughout.
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
I watched Satan's Slaves last night. Tonight I will try to watch Satan's Slaves 2: Communion
Satan's Slaves is a 2017 Indonesian horror film and became the highest grossing domestic Indonesian film of 2017. I watched it with subtitles although there is a dubbed version if you prefer that. It wasn't bad, I can see why people liked it. I don't feel it was fantastic by any means. I saw a lot of the gimmicks that made Poltergeist so popular here when it was released. I always like a peak at how others live when I am watching a foreign film, and this one did not disappoint. Pretty cool seeing an Indonesian family day to day life and how it is disrupted.
Satan's Slaves is a 2017 Indonesian horror film and became the highest grossing domestic Indonesian film of 2017. I watched it with subtitles although there is a dubbed version if you prefer that. It wasn't bad, I can see why people liked it. I don't feel it was fantastic by any means. I saw a lot of the gimmicks that made Poltergeist so popular here when it was released. I always like a peak at how others live when I am watching a foreign film, and this one did not disappoint. Pretty cool seeing an Indonesian family day to day life and how it is disrupted.
This is what I said previously
prosopis
Arizona Chupacabra
Satans Slaves 2: Communion, was not a very good sequel.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Same. Quit after four episodes.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Avoid the movie "Butterfly Kisses" (2018). It is about a filmmaker finds footage of a missing student's documentary about a shadowy figure and ends up going off the deep end and goes missing himself.
1,5 / 5
1,5 / 5
Osaurus
Footballguy
It’s really bad
Osaurus
Footballguy
They should have stopped after the army guy massacre at the beginning. 1/5
SWC
Bromigo
the song was even worse take that to the bank bromigos
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
This was the whole point, and I think there is going to be a slight disconnect because this also feels like a European thing, this play on manners and cultural differences. I listened to a few interviews with the writer/director after watching the movie and the core idea is one from his life - they met another couple on holiday, and they did in fact invite them to their house for the weekend. They didn't go, but he and his writing partner decided to try to write a "what if", and part of their writing process is to push each other to try the idea in different genres, and at some point, they started down the horror route. I am paraphrasing, but he said then his goal was to write the most disturbing movie in Danish history.
Anyway, I think the whole point was to escalate the situations of waffling between the idea that some of these are just social differences vs. them being psychos. Just like a movie I think would be an awesome pairing with this one, Force Majure (not a horror movie), they are obviously thinking about and playing with the idea of what a "man" is and how they should be acting. The point was hubby was a bit of a wimp, but also because of that he wanted to stay. He was attracted to Patrick, not in sexual way, but in the way that he wished he could act like him and wanted to be around that. The couple also weren't in a happy place before they left for that adventure either. I agree them laying down and taking it at the end was just a tad too much, but again I also took that as the director just trying to make a point and take it to its extreme conclusion.
0% chance I accepted he invite to begin with, but I also would have put the foot down probably about the time the babysitter situation happened. No chance I leave my kid with somebody I don't know like that.
4/5Watched it with my son and wife and thought it was terrible. The build up at the beginning was fine because you didn’t know if the guy was in on it or not. As soon as we saw the “monster” (trying to not ruin anything), it was downhill from there. The feeding stuff didn’t gross me out because the monster was just so unrealistic. The stuff that people survived, super human strength due and oops I dropped it parts were just so silly. They had to throw in the me too stuff to make us realize he was the bad guy, ugh.
I do not get all the great reviews.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Going through the comments in here after talking to Andy, and this is where I am - unless the movie is shot in a way that sets up the expectation of trying for realism.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Good way to put it here. They tried to put in that nugget Tess having a history of going back to things she shouldn't (history with her boyfriend/ex). Also, there was that little bit of a love connection between them that night, which lends her to maybe not wanting to look for something else the following day. I thought they did a pretty good job of setting up things to make the motivations a bit more believable.
Titans_fan
Footballguy
If you're into a well-done horror-comedy, you owe it to yourself to seek out Deadstream. Spoiler-free synopsis is a guy who does "extreme" stunts facing his fears. The account got banned and now he's back facing one of his biggest fears - ghosts. He is going to stay the night in a haunted house and document everything.
The guy is SO over the top and his reactions are gold. The horror elements are really well done and the comedy is subtle but funny and incorporated almost flawlessly. Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil is my favorite horror-comedy, but this is right up there.
4.5/5
The guy is SO over the top and his reactions are gold. The horror elements are really well done and the comedy is subtle but funny and incorporated almost flawlessly. Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil is my favorite horror-comedy, but this is right up there.
4.5/5
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Todem
Footballguy
We really enjoyed it for what it is. A pure unapologetic gore fest.
Picked up the 4K/BD yesterday.
Thanks for the rec on this one, loved it and it was right up my alley. Had a kissing cousin vibe to the Evil Dead movies. Shawn is the hero we all need in these times!
ThaPenguin
Footballguy
Anybody seen M3GAN? Thinking of popping out to see it on Friday the 13th.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Came across a review for Skinamarink and the reviews seem to indicate that people either love it or hate it. Apparently this film is born of the director’s earlier short called Heck which is on YouTube. Thought I’d give the 28 minute short a spin before committing to the feature length Skinamarink which has been simultaneously described as the most boring movie ever made, as well as ground-breaking genius. But then I read a review of Heck where the writer said he had to sleep with the lights on for two nights after watching it. I have a casual like for horror, and the reviews have me curious, but I’m also not interested in scarring my psyche. Has anyone seen either of these flicks?
Edit: Geez, the YouTube comments on Heck are pretty crazy, such as “I have never before been so viscerally terrified by a piece of media for such an extended time.”
Edit #2: Just read the title of this article - The Director of Skinamarink has a Life Ruining Short You Can Watch for Free. Life ruining?
Edit: Geez, the YouTube comments on Heck are pretty crazy, such as “I have never before been so viscerally terrified by a piece of media for such an extended time.”
Edit #2: Just read the title of this article - The Director of Skinamarink has a Life Ruining Short You Can Watch for Free. Life ruining?
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foxco
Footballguy
Mandrake on Shudder
Irish supernatural horror.
Trying for the slow-burn menacing tone of Hereditary, didn't quite nail it but wasn't bad. Liked the lead, plot a little convoluted at times but worth a try if you like Midsommer & The Witch etc. Not on their level but held my interest though I don't need to ever see again.
Irish supernatural horror.
Trying for the slow-burn menacing tone of Hereditary, didn't quite nail it but wasn't bad. Liked the lead, plot a little convoluted at times but worth a try if you like Midsommer & The Witch etc. Not on their level but held my interest though I don't need to ever see again.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Now THIS movie scarred my psyche.
