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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (2 Viewers)

Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.

Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach.

Oh st ml -135

OH st -2.5 -115

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OH st 1q -130

Mallett yes int -240 - big

Ark un 27.5 +115

 
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Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
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Adding 1u on ARK PK +175 at Sportsbook Live

IMO this comes down to 1 or 2 key defensive stands by ARK...

 
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Are you guys of the mind to bang the 2H over no matter what, or do you think some defensive adjustments can/will be made?
Way too early to call. I don't like doing something the whole world is also thinking. And it will only take a few plays to go against you in a total that high.At this point, Arkansas is looking the play to me. These teams are pretty close even though the score isn't. OSU has the ball bouncing their way for sure, while Arkansas doesn't (BIG drops). That should even out you'd think and we'll get a great line obviously. Problem is, OSU gets the ball first and a long drive for a TD could end it right off the bat.
 
Just updated my spreadsheet.

Since 6/1/2010: Sportsbetting -101.3 units (no I'm not kidding), Live Poker 2/5 NL +452 units

I'm a turd. Sandbagging myself with this nonsense.

Packing it up and calling it a career -

Good luck everyone. Especially the guys who come in here, don't brag and lie, and post findable plays and good strategy with back up. Everyone else, suck it from the back.

SLBH, GR, DD and MODOGG - PM me any time you're in my next of the woods, let's get some brews in Boston or at the casinos.

RN - will email you GB.

 
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o30 2h i'm a square!!!
30.5 for me, still thinking what to do there. I can't believe they didn't go for the TD, #######. 3 is not doing #### in this game and don't give me the good for morale bull####. A TD is what would've really charged them...and had OSU thinking.I just took Arkansas -1.
I'm not touching ARK 2h....OSU just running up and down the field. That's what i get for betting 3u on one team :)
 
Added more on Arkansas, #### it, give me 17. ADAMS, you drop another TD or HUGE 3rd and 4 and conversion, and I will hire Tremendous Upside to come out there and kick your ####### ###, you choker.

Okay, beer run (and lottery tix :unsure: )....LET'S DO THIS!!!

:)

 
Added more on Arkansas, #### it, give me 17. ADAMS, you drop another TD or HUGE 3rd and 4 and conversion, and I will hire Tremendous Upside to come out there and kick your ####### ###, you choker.

Okay, beer run (and lottery tix :unsure: )....LET'S DO THIS!!!

:)
No shtick, I've seen this guy headbutt a brick wall as pregame posturing to warn off his foes. Adams better catch him some passes in the 2nd half.
 
Added more on Arkansas, #### it, give me 17. ADAMS, you drop another TD or HUGE 3rd and 4 and conversion, and I will hire Tremendous Upside to come out there and kick your ####### ###, you choker.

Okay, beer run (and lottery tix :lmao: )....LET'S DO THIS!!!

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No shtick, I've seen this guy headbutt a brick wall as pregame posturing to warn off his foes. Adams better catch him some passes in the 2nd half.
ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW WITH THIS KID??? That would've been it. I haven't seen one player affect his team worse in more key plays all bowl season. Just go and put an Ohio State helmet on the guy.
 
Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
The definition of running good. I won't complain about anymore bad beats forever. I had tons on the Mallett INt. incredible ending.
 
Why when the punt was blocked did not the Arkansas kid just pick the ball up and run it in? Why fall on it when there is not an OSU player in sight?

:puke:

 
Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
The definition of running good. I won't complain about anymore bad beats forever. I had tons on the Mallett INt. incredible ending.
Really good form here, especially when you know everyone else in the thread had Arkansas.
 
Why when the punt was blocked did not the Arkansas kid just pick the ball up and run it in? Why fall on it when there is not an OSU player in sight?
I just went back and replayed it, and honestly... it was just a stupid mistake. There was not a white jersey within 20 yards of him.
 
Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
Nice job! :thumbup:
 
Why when the punt was blocked did not the Arkansas kid just pick the ball up and run it in? Why fall on it when there is not an OSU player in sight? :puke:
Was just talking about this, may as well throw it here...How the players don't know better is beyond me. All each kid has to understand is the situation. If the ball is blocked and is heading back towards the endzone, you do not fall on it with ####### nothing but teammates around you to run it in. How tough is that to understand? It drives me crazy; the kid wanted "Possesion". Sorry, but what a ####### idiot. Also blame special teams coaching, but come on.Stuff like that seriously drives me crazy. How ####### hard is your job that you can't communicate EXACTLY what to do in as big of a MOMENT as you'll have all year. HOW???? Your ineptitude cost your players, your school and its fans, the Sugar Bowl. Thank GOD I took Arkansas at half or I would be even more bummed with the million miscues and Mallet's panicky play. Sorry, but what a bunch of total dumbasses top to bottom.
 
Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
Nice job! :thumbup:
Very nice job but what a house of cards. Kid runs that blocked kick in and every bet but the OSU 1Q collapses. Marshall musta been sweating bullets on that block :lmao:Very nice hit though! :goodposting:
 
Already gave my reasons earlier today. I am taking a shot at Ohio State tonight. I try to take a few every bowl/nfl playoff season. This is the 2nd one I have taken this bowl season.Big 10 sucks, everyone here and everywhere else I read on Arkansas. We get the better defense, better special teams, toss up on offense, and a much better coach. Oh st ml -135OH st -2.5 -115Oh st -3 evOH st 1q -130Mallett yes int -240 - bigArk un 27.5 +115
The definition of running good. I won't complain about anymore bad beats forever. I had tons on the Mallett INt. incredible ending.
I set the line at 7 days before you're back in here talking about how bad you run....although i'm not sure you'll be gambling in 7 days :jawdrop:
 
Everyone talked about it already, but if you replay the blocked punt when it's blocked the ball first goes right through the guys hands. The ball then hits his knee and for some reason he falls on it. Nevermind the fact that even if OH St falls on it Arkansas still gets the ball so you mine as well try to scoop and score.

I can't remember a team being so good offensively in the 1h then terrible in the 2h. OH st had just 5 fds in the 2h (15 in the 1st) and Prior threw for like 20 yds.

Between the safety, the fumble on 4th and 1 from their own 40, and the blocked punt it was a crazy 4th quarter. Very lucky to be on the winning side.

 
Everyone talked about it already, but if you replay the blocked punt when it's blocked the ball first goes right through the guys hands. The ball then hits his knee and for some reason he falls on it. Nevermind the fact that even if OH St falls on it Arkansas still gets the ball so you mine as well try to scoop and score.

I can't remember a team being so good offensively in the 1h then terrible in the 2h. OH st had just 5 fds in the 2h (15 in the 1st) and Prior threw for like 20 yds.

Between the safety, the fumble on 4th and 1 from their own 40, and the blocked punt it was a crazy 4th quarter. Very lucky to be on the winning side.
I fell asleep and missed the 4th quarter :)
 
Why when the punt was blocked did not the Arkansas kid just pick the ball up and run it in? Why fall on it when there is not an OSU player in sight? :puke:
Was just talking about this, may as well throw it here...How the players don't know better is beyond me. All each kid has to understand is the situation. If the ball is blocked and is heading back towards the endzone, you do not fall on it with ####### nothing but teammates around you to run it in. How tough is that to understand? It drives me crazy; the kid wanted "Possesion". Sorry, but what a ####### idiot. Also blame special teams coaching, but come on.Stuff like that seriously drives me crazy. How ####### hard is your job that you can't communicate EXACTLY what to do in as big of a MOMENT as you'll have all year. HOW???? Your ineptitude cost your players, your school and its fans, the Sugar Bowl. Thank GOD I took Arkansas at half or I would be even more bummed with the million miscues and Mallet's panicky play. Sorry, but what a bunch of total dumbasses top to bottom.
I agree with you here Sonny, I was just venting a little. Arkansas and TCU were my 2 biggest bets of the bowl season which has not been kind to the Beaver. But we move on!
 
This is an awesome gambling story(have to have espn insider)

I'm going to take a shot at the hilton contest next year
Awesome Read!
anyone willing to cut and paste it here? or I'll take a PM.
I'd like a PM as well - the Hilton contest has always fascinated me. I recall many years ago there was a run of 3-4 years in a row where fading the Hilton contest's top pick each week was a profitable system. Do they still make that information public each week?
 
Mallett is going to be a terrible draft pick for someone this spring.

His footwork is horrid, he relies on his arm too much and his accuracy suffers from it. His receivers did a lot of work this year to get him that 65% completion percentage, he rarely hits anyone in stride. You get him moving around at all in the pocket and he is going to do something awful.

 
SUPER NUMBER: $207,000I received a direct message on Twitter at 11:41 EST on Jan. 1. It was from @4RichardStand and read: "In Vegas to see how this all plays out."For those who haven't been following the blog, @4RichardStand is also known as Richard Stand, which is the pseudonym for the guy who entered the final weekend of the NFL season leading the Las Vegas Hilton's Supercontest, the premier handicapping contest in the country. More than 300 contestants paid $1,500 to pick five games against the spread every week. The winner earned -- and after a season of agony, there is no doubt it is earned -- $207,000.Richard went into the weekend with a one-game lead over a guy named Wisky. Rather than sit in his Boston home pacing the carpet and trying to avoid his wife and young son, Richard hopped a flight to Vegas with friends to spend the weekend watching the drama unfold live. But he didn't want to stay at any of the standard Strip hotels. He checked into the new Mandarin, the only place in Las Vegas that doesn't have a casino. "I wanted some quiet," he told me. "I wanted to think about my options."Richard wasn't just there to sit back and hope things went his way. One way or the other, he was walking away from Vegas a winner of some very large dollars. Before he hit The Strip he withdrew $75,000 in cash -- his kid's college fund -- to make some hedge bets. He's not crazy and he's not a degenerate; he knew he'd be putting that money back, either as the contest winner or as the winner of his hedges.That Saturday night, while he played craps and blackjack at the Bellagio, he began whirring through the dozens of potential scenarios for the following day. "I got back to my room around 2 a.m. and was up until 3:30 in the morning trying to figure out the hedge opportunities."[+] EnlargeLionsAP Photo/Rick OsentoskiAs part of the most important wager of his life, Richard Stand bet that the Lions could handle the Vikings.Wisky had Pittsburgh minus-6.5, Tampa Bay plus-8, St. Louis minus-3, Dallas plus-12 and Houston plus-2.5. Richard had St. Louis, Dallas and Houston also. Plus he picked Green Bay minus-6.5 and Minnesota plus-7. Whether he won or lost would come down to how the Packers and the Vikings did for him. Or how the Steelers and Bucs did for Wisky. "So that's when I figured out my hedge," Stand says.The Hilton contest lines are posted on Tuesdays, and those are the spreads all the contestants play (picks are due Saturday morning and posted on the Hilton's website Saturday afternoon). But, by Sunday, the line on the Lions-Vikings game had moved from Detroit minus-7 to Detroit minus-3. The lines on the Steelers and Bucs had stayed mostly the same. So Stand decided his best option was a three-team parlay: Steelers minus-6, Bucs plus-8 and Detroit minus-3. This was a safe bet for four reasons:1. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by more than seven he'd fall out of first place, but would still win his $50,000 parlay.2. If Pittsburgh and Tampa didn't cover, he'd lose his parlay, but Wisky would be out of the running for first, so Stand's chance to win the $207K would be greatly increased.3. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by four, five or six he'd win his parlay and still be in contention to win the whole thing.4. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by exactly seven, he'd win his parlay, tie his Detroit-Minnesota play in the contest and still have a chance to finish first.I had asked him to e-mail me throughout Sunday to keep me posted on his emotions and plans. This is what I got at 10:48 am EST. "Up all night working on hedge strategy. Felt good during a late-night craps run but now not feeling as good. Heading to M with more cash than Pablo Escobar."Vegas isn't what it used to be. Back in the day of Lefty Rosenthal you could walk into any book on The Strip and get any kind of action you wanted. But these days -- with books owned by huge corporations -- the liability of taking huge bets is too big. Richard wanted to make a $10,000 three-team parlay bet. He tried the Aria and the Bellagio, but neither would give him more than $5,000. So, having read a recent New York Times story about the M and how bookmakers there would take any bet that comes, he hightailed it there early on Sunday morning, to get down his action.At 10:51, while Stand must have been in the cab, I got this e-mail: "Am I really risking $200K on Joe Webb?"Richard Stand's Ticket ReceiptRichard StandStand's parlay.Thirty minutes after that I received this picture, highlighting his parlay: Steelers minus-6, Lions minus-3, Bucs plus-8. Take: $10,000 to win $52,914.The M is the original home to in-game wagering, meaning you can bet on the games and ever-changing odds and point spreads from play to play. There are no couches or comfy chairs to sit in, except for in the VIP section. Instead there are rows of desks set up like a Wall Street trading floor, with touch-screen computers where people can make their in-game bets and small televisions to watch the games."I asked if I could sit in the VIP section because I was putting down so much on a parlay and they just looked at me," Stand says. "They told me that wasn't enough. Instead they set me and my guys up in three or four cubbyholes with desks and put a small piece of paper on each one that read, Reserved: Stand."Almost immediately, it was clear that the Steelers were going to easily beat the Browns. And the Bucs were giving the Saints all they could handle, too. So the Vikings' performance was crucial to Stand's chances. As the game progressed slowly, with neither team taking control, my e-mail went eerily silent. I worried that he was hyperventilating. Finally at 1:52 EST, shortly after Joe Webb ended a Vikings potential scoring drive with an across-the-body pick, I got this: "WTF was Joe Webb thinking throwing that pass ... Favre Jr."As the Lions went into halftime ahead 10-0, I received this e-mail, which was practically dripping in tears: "I feel everything slipping away."But it wasn't over. Even though Detroit went up 13-0 early in the third, the Vikings plus-seven was still in reach. With 6:12 left in the third, Detroit had just begun a drive on its own 35. Still despondent and afraid to watch his dreams slip away, Stand went to the bathroom. "Went to take a leak and begin crying," he wrote me. "Came back to a Minnesota touchdown."Jared Allen had picked off Shaun Hill and returned it 36 yards for a touchdown. The score was now 13-7. Two minutes later, the Vikings began a long drive that extended into the fourth quarter and ended with a field goal. What had been a 13-0 lead for Detroit was now just 13-10, with 12 minutes left to play.That lasted for three minutes, right up until Lions running back Maurice Morris went 5 yards off tackle for a Detroit score. With a little more than nine minutes left the Lions were up 20-10.By now, the Steelers were leading the Browns by infinity, as my 4-year-old likes to say. And the Bucs-Saints was going back and forth. Covering the 8-point spread wasn't going to be a problem for Tampa. Wisky was going to start the day 2-0. Stand needed the Vikings to push or cover.With 5:36 seconds left in the game, the Vikings got the ball back on their own 12, down by 10. This is what Stand sent me: "It all comes down to Joe Webb."And the rook did not disappoint. He completed 7 of 10 passes and scrambled once for 9 yards, moving the ball down to Detroit's 30 before the Vikes were stopped. Needing 10 points, Minnesota coach Leslie Frazier elected to go for the field goal. "Oh god..." came the word from Stand. And then, after Ryan Longwell connected from 46 yards, leaving the door open for a push, Stand wrote, "I can live with a tie. A push allows me to still win it."Five minutes later, with the game over and feeling lucky he escaped with a tie, Stand sent me this: "Still alive and just won 52K."Now there was the matter of the Bears. This presented another middle opportunity for Stand. The Hilton line on the Bears-Packers had been Green Bay minus-6.5. However, during the week, the line had drifted to Green Bay minus-11, based on the notion Chicago had wrapped up its playoff spot and Green Bay needed to win to get in. With $52,000 already in the bag, Stand was feeling pretty flush. If Green Bay covered, he would win the $207,000. If the Packers didn't he'd finish second, winning around $80,000. So he hedged again, putting $30,000 on the Bears plus-11. If they lost by between 10 and seven, he'd win his hedge bet plus the Hilton contest. If they lost by six or less, he'd win his hedge and finish second in the Hilton. Either way, he was walking away with no less than $160,000 -- his two hedge wins for $80K total and his second-place finish for the same amount. His e-mail to me just before the game began was, "Took Chicago for 33K. Yikes..."As the game unfolded like the first round of the playoffs -- with the Bears playing their starters and leading 3-0 at the half -- I wanted to tell Stand what I remember from Lovie Smith's introductory news conference years ago. As a Bears fan it always stuck with me. He said his priority was beating the Packers, as much as it was winning the Super Bowl. I decided this would hurt too much to hear, then he sent me this, early in the third quarter: "Need GB to realize they need to win to get in playoffs and need Chicago to realize the game means nothing to them."Isn't gambling fun?The game seesawed back and forth in the third, with the Packers finally tying it toward the end. Stand was awfully quiet on the e-mail. Turns out he was pacing on the carpet behind his cubbyholes at the M. He hadn't eaten anything other than half a slice of pizza in nearly 24 hours. Coca-Cola was the only thing helping him stand. "Everything hurt me at this point."Finally, at 6:30 EST, shortly after Green Bay went up 10-3 early in the fourth, my e-mail blew up with this: "End it now...call in a bomb threat to Lambeau...end it!"For the rest of the quarter, the teams traded punts, until Chicago got the ball back on its own 2 with 4:49 remaining. Thus began the most excruciating 4:49 of Richard Stand's life. Matt Forte went for 4 yards. Then 5 yards. Then Cutler completed two passes in a row to Greg Olsen for 13 yards total. A Cutler incompletion was followed by his 7 -yard scramble and another pass to Olsen for 6 yards.[+] EnlargeJay CutlerAP Photo/Jim PrischingJay Cutler's interception helped Stand win the Hilton Supercontest.Finally, the two-minute warning. The Bears had second-and-4 on the Packers' 37. "I can barely stand," Stand sent me. This was true. He was no longer watching the game. He was crouched behind the chair in his cubbyhole, sucking down Cokes. At one point one of his buddies on the trip asked another friend where Richard was, and the friend just pointed to the floor.The Bears kept driving. Cutler for 4 yards to Rashied Davis. To Forte for 11. To Devin Hester for 16. Then, with 20 seconds left and facing a second-and-10 from the Green Bay 32, Cutler dropped back. He saw Devin Hester on the left side and lofted a beauty of a pass ... that sailed right over Hester's head and into the waiting arms of Packers DB Nick Collins."My friends and I are not huggers," Stand says. "But I think we hugged. I felt horrible, worse than anything I have ever felt in my life. The whole experience was amazing, but painful."He went to the counter, cashed his ticket for the Bears plus-11, and stuffed $85,000 in cash into his backpack. Later that night, he took his boys out to Nobu to celebrate. The bill was $900. Stand paid for it -- in cash.Next month he'll head back to Vegas again to pick up his Hilton winnings (rules preclude the payout from happening for several days.) But, back at home in Boston, even his soon-to-be 3-year-old son knows how big a deal the weekend of winning was. When Stand walked through the door $300,000 richer on Monday night, his boy said to him, "So Daddy, this means I can go to college?"
 
This is an awesome gambling story(have to have espn insider)

I'm going to take a shot at the hilton contest next year
Awesome Read!
anyone willing to cut and paste it here? or I'll take a PM.
I'd like a PM as well - the Hilton contest has always fascinated me. I recall many years ago there was a run of 3-4 years in a row where fading the Hilton contest's top pick each week was a profitable system. Do they still make that information public each week?
Yes, they post all the plays on Saturday afternoon.
 
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SUPER NUMBER: $207,000I received a direct message on Twitter at 11:41 EST on Jan. 1. It was from @4RichardStand and read: "In Vegas to see how this all plays out."For those who haven't been following the blog, @4RichardStand is also known as Richard Stand, which is the pseudonym for the guy who entered the final weekend of the NFL season leading the Las Vegas Hilton's Supercontest, the premier handicapping contest in the country. More than 300 contestants paid $1,500 to pick five games against the spread every week. The winner earned -- and after a season of agony, there is no doubt it is earned -- $207,000.Richard went into the weekend with a one-game lead over a guy named Wisky. Rather than sit in his Boston home pacing the carpet and trying to avoid his wife and young son, Richard hopped a flight to Vegas with friends to spend the weekend watching the drama unfold live. But he didn't want to stay at any of the standard Strip hotels. He checked into the new Mandarin, the only place in Las Vegas that doesn't have a casino. "I wanted some quiet," he told me. "I wanted to think about my options."Richard wasn't just there to sit back and hope things went his way. One way or the other, he was walking away from Vegas a winner of some very large dollars. Before he hit The Strip he withdrew $75,000 in cash -- his kid's college fund -- to make some hedge bets. He's not crazy and he's not a degenerate; he knew he'd be putting that money back, either as the contest winner or as the winner of his hedges.That Saturday night, while he played craps and blackjack at the Bellagio, he began whirring through the dozens of potential scenarios for the following day. "I got back to my room around 2 a.m. and was up until 3:30 in the morning trying to figure out the hedge opportunities."[+] EnlargeLionsAP Photo/Rick OsentoskiAs part of the most important wager of his life, Richard Stand bet that the Lions could handle the Vikings.Wisky had Pittsburgh minus-6.5, Tampa Bay plus-8, St. Louis minus-3, Dallas plus-12 and Houston plus-2.5. Richard had St. Louis, Dallas and Houston also. Plus he picked Green Bay minus-6.5 and Minnesota plus-7. Whether he won or lost would come down to how the Packers and the Vikings did for him. Or how the Steelers and Bucs did for Wisky. "So that's when I figured out my hedge," Stand says.The Hilton contest lines are posted on Tuesdays, and those are the spreads all the contestants play (picks are due Saturday morning and posted on the Hilton's website Saturday afternoon). But, by Sunday, the line on the Lions-Vikings game had moved from Detroit minus-7 to Detroit minus-3. The lines on the Steelers and Bucs had stayed mostly the same. So Stand decided his best option was a three-team parlay: Steelers minus-6, Bucs plus-8 and Detroit minus-3. This was a safe bet for four reasons:1. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by more than seven he'd fall out of first place, but would still win his $50,000 parlay.2. If Pittsburgh and Tampa didn't cover, he'd lose his parlay, but Wisky would be out of the running for first, so Stand's chance to win the $207K would be greatly increased.3. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by four, five or six he'd win his parlay and still be in contention to win the whole thing.4. If Pittsburgh and Tampa covered and Detroit won by exactly seven, he'd win his parlay, tie his Detroit-Minnesota play in the contest and still have a chance to finish first.I had asked him to e-mail me throughout Sunday to keep me posted on his emotions and plans. This is what I got at 10:48 am EST. "Up all night working on hedge strategy. Felt good during a late-night craps run but now not feeling as good. Heading to M with more cash than Pablo Escobar."Vegas isn't what it used to be. Back in the day of Lefty Rosenthal you could walk into any book on The Strip and get any kind of action you wanted. But these days -- with books owned by huge corporations -- the liability of taking huge bets is too big. Richard wanted to make a $10,000 three-team parlay bet. He tried the Aria and the Bellagio, but neither would give him more than $5,000. So, having read a recent New York Times story about the M and how bookmakers there would take any bet that comes, he hightailed it there early on Sunday morning, to get down his action.At 10:51, while Stand must have been in the cab, I got this e-mail: "Am I really risking $200K on Joe Webb?"Richard Stand's Ticket ReceiptRichard StandStand's parlay.Thirty minutes after that I received this picture, highlighting his parlay: Steelers minus-6, Lions minus-3, Bucs plus-8. Take: $10,000 to win $52,914.The M is the original home to in-game wagering, meaning you can bet on the games and ever-changing odds and point spreads from play to play. There are no couches or comfy chairs to sit in, except for in the VIP section. Instead there are rows of desks set up like a Wall Street trading floor, with touch-screen computers where people can make their in-game bets and small televisions to watch the games."I asked if I could sit in the VIP section because I was putting down so much on a parlay and they just looked at me," Stand says. "They told me that wasn't enough. Instead they set me and my guys up in three or four cubbyholes with desks and put a small piece of paper on each one that read, Reserved: Stand."Almost immediately, it was clear that the Steelers were going to easily beat the Browns. And the Bucs were giving the Saints all they could handle, too. So the Vikings' performance was crucial to Stand's chances. As the game progressed slowly, with neither team taking control, my e-mail went eerily silent. I worried that he was hyperventilating. Finally at 1:52 EST, shortly after Joe Webb ended a Vikings potential scoring drive with an across-the-body pick, I got this: "WTF was Joe Webb thinking throwing that pass ... Favre Jr."As the Lions went into halftime ahead 10-0, I received this e-mail, which was practically dripping in tears: "I feel everything slipping away."But it wasn't over. Even though Detroit went up 13-0 early in the third, the Vikings plus-seven was still in reach. With 6:12 left in the third, Detroit had just begun a drive on its own 35. Still despondent and afraid to watch his dreams slip away, Stand went to the bathroom. "Went to take a leak and begin crying," he wrote me. "Came back to a Minnesota touchdown."Jared Allen had picked off Shaun Hill and returned it 36 yards for a touchdown. The score was now 13-7. Two minutes later, the Vikings began a long drive that extended into the fourth quarter and ended with a field goal. What had been a 13-0 lead for Detroit was now just 13-10, with 12 minutes left to play.That lasted for three minutes, right up until Lions running back Maurice Morris went 5 yards off tackle for a Detroit score. With a little more than nine minutes left the Lions were up 20-10.By now, the Steelers were leading the Browns by infinity, as my 4-year-old likes to say. And the Bucs-Saints was going back and forth. Covering the 8-point spread wasn't going to be a problem for Tampa. Wisky was going to start the day 2-0. Stand needed the Vikings to push or cover.With 5:36 seconds left in the game, the Vikings got the ball back on their own 12, down by 10. This is what Stand sent me: "It all comes down to Joe Webb."And the rook did not disappoint. He completed 7 of 10 passes and scrambled once for 9 yards, moving the ball down to Detroit's 30 before the Vikes were stopped. Needing 10 points, Minnesota coach Leslie Frazier elected to go for the field goal. "Oh god..." came the word from Stand. And then, after Ryan Longwell connected from 46 yards, leaving the door open for a push, Stand wrote, "I can live with a tie. A push allows me to still win it."Five minutes later, with the game over and feeling lucky he escaped with a tie, Stand sent me this: "Still alive and just won 52K."Now there was the matter of the Bears. This presented another middle opportunity for Stand. The Hilton line on the Bears-Packers had been Green Bay minus-6.5. However, during the week, the line had drifted to Green Bay minus-11, based on the notion Chicago had wrapped up its playoff spot and Green Bay needed to win to get in. With $52,000 already in the bag, Stand was feeling pretty flush. If Green Bay covered, he would win the $207,000. If the Packers didn't he'd finish second, winning around $80,000. So he hedged again, putting $30,000 on the Bears plus-11. If they lost by between 10 and seven, he'd win his hedge bet plus the Hilton contest. If they lost by six or less, he'd win his hedge and finish second in the Hilton. Either way, he was walking away with no less than $160,000 -- his two hedge wins for $80K total and his second-place finish for the same amount. His e-mail to me just before the game began was, "Took Chicago for 33K. Yikes..."As the game unfolded like the first round of the playoffs -- with the Bears playing their starters and leading 3-0 at the half -- I wanted to tell Stand what I remember from Lovie Smith's introductory news conference years ago. As a Bears fan it always stuck with me. He said his priority was beating the Packers, as much as it was winning the Super Bowl. I decided this would hurt too much to hear, then he sent me this, early in the third quarter: "Need GB to realize they need to win to get in playoffs and need Chicago to realize the game means nothing to them."Isn't gambling fun?The game seesawed back and forth in the third, with the Packers finally tying it toward the end. Stand was awfully quiet on the e-mail. Turns out he was pacing on the carpet behind his cubbyholes at the M. He hadn't eaten anything other than half a slice of pizza in nearly 24 hours. Coca-Cola was the only thing helping him stand. "Everything hurt me at this point."Finally, at 6:30 EST, shortly after Green Bay went up 10-3 early in the fourth, my e-mail blew up with this: "End it now...call in a bomb threat to Lambeau...end it!"For the rest of the quarter, the teams traded punts, until Chicago got the ball back on its own 2 with 4:49 remaining. Thus began the most excruciating 4:49 of Richard Stand's life. Matt Forte went for 4 yards. Then 5 yards. Then Cutler completed two passes in a row to Greg Olsen for 13 yards total. A Cutler incompletion was followed by his 7 -yard scramble and another pass to Olsen for 6 yards.[+] EnlargeJay CutlerAP Photo/Jim PrischingJay Cutler's interception helped Stand win the Hilton Supercontest.Finally, the two-minute warning. The Bears had second-and-4 on the Packers' 37. "I can barely stand," Stand sent me. This was true. He was no longer watching the game. He was crouched behind the chair in his cubbyhole, sucking down Cokes. At one point one of his buddies on the trip asked another friend where Richard was, and the friend just pointed to the floor.The Bears kept driving. Cutler for 4 yards to Rashied Davis. To Forte for 11. To Devin Hester for 16. Then, with 20 seconds left and facing a second-and-10 from the Green Bay 32, Cutler dropped back. He saw Devin Hester on the left side and lofted a beauty of a pass ... that sailed right over Hester's head and into the waiting arms of Packers DB Nick Collins."My friends and I are not huggers," Stand says. "But I think we hugged. I felt horrible, worse than anything I have ever felt in my life. The whole experience was amazing, but painful."He went to the counter, cashed his ticket for the Bears plus-11, and stuffed $85,000 in cash into his backpack. Later that night, he took his boys out to Nobu to celebrate. The bill was $900. Stand paid for it -- in cash.Next month he'll head back to Vegas again to pick up his Hilton winnings (rules preclude the payout from happening for several days.) But, back at home in Boston, even his soon-to-be 3-year-old son knows how big a deal the weekend of winning was. When Stand walked through the door $300,000 richer on Monday night, his boy said to him, "So Daddy, this means I can go to college?"
Very cool!Thanks for putting that up here!
 
This is an awesome gambling story(have to have espn insider)

I'm going to take a shot at the hilton contest next year
Awesome Read!
anyone willing to cut and paste it here? or I'll take a PM.
I'd like a PM as well - the Hilton contest has always fascinated me. I recall many years ago there was a run of 3-4 years in a row where fading the Hilton contest's top pick each week was a profitable system. Do they still make that information public each week?
That would of backfired this season, as the Hilton's top pick covered just about every week this year.
 
I was having sexy time in the bedroom during the whole 4th quarter, so I wasn't watching the game and could just hear the tv in the other room. Wasn't really miffed at Arkansas not covering until reading these accounts of Arkansas blowing it by not picking up the punt and running it in. Ugghhhh.

At least I get some good news this morning that Iowa covered. I thought they were doomed when I last saw tOSU go on a big run in the 2nd half. Thanks for that and the Providence play.

 
Just an fyi, check out the kc-bal thread in the shark pool if you're interested in the game.

It's being reported that Bowe may be doubtful for the game as he was seen limping in the tunnel last weekend and didn't practice today, although the team is saying he missed practice due to an illness.

If he misses the game it would be huge since he essentially is the Chiefs passing game.

Of course Ngata missed practice too, and that would be a bigger deal than Bowe if he were to miss the game, imo.

 
Was wanting to bet on the Saints -10.5, but I fear a late backdoor cover by Seattle.

So I went with the over in the GB/Phi game.

 
Just an fyi, check out the kc-bal thread in the shark pool if you're interested in the game.It's being reported that Bowe may be doubtful for the game as he was seen limping in the tunnel last weekend and didn't practice today, although the team is saying he missed practice due to an illness. If he misses the game it would be huge since he essentially is the Chiefs passing game.Of course Ngata missed practice too, and that would be a bigger deal than Bowe if he were to miss the game, imo.
I heard vegas checks out the SP too. :goodposting:
 
The Oregon/Auburn line has been interesting to follow. A week or 2 ago this looked like it would close 4. Now it's still 2.5 at sharp books and 3 at square ones with Ore favored.

I think if you like Auburn you buy now. No way this hits pkem. SEC did well during bowl season and obviously has done well in this game the last few years.

I like Oregon here. I took some +140 a few weeks ago and I do think we get at least the hook and 3 if not maybe some 4s will pop up.

The under is enticing as well. Obviously both teams run the hurry up and run lots of plays, but they both run the ball a lot which means more clock running. Even so, in these games one of the teams usually tries to slow the game a bit - I'm not so sure this happens though. I think you play the team you are betting against under their team total. With 4-5 weeks to prepare defenses hold the advantage typically.

 
Was wanting to bet on the Saints -10.5, but I fear a late backdoor cover by Seattle.
double digit home dogs have to be a long term winner in the NFL.
This is somewhat unchartered territory though. Seattle is 29th in Sagarin and the line seems actually shaded to Seattle IMO to keep the ML/Spread thing in balance. I think Vegas is really wanting you to lay the points here and stay the #### off Seattle ML, but that's just my read. :confused:
 
2u hofstra +4.5

2u smu +5

2u stl -1.5

1u rest of these

Psu +6.5

rich -13.5

Ucf -11.5

Rut +3.5

Marist +18

Gl, back to the craps table

 

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