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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (13 Viewers)

I'm with RN. I think it's more likely that the Jets cover 16 than the Pats win. Jets have a good (not great) defense and good running game. Seems like the formula to stay in the game against NE.

Of course, I've been underestimating the Pats all year.

 
According to Yudkin:

Last I saw for weather, it was supposed to be in the 20s at game time. In 6 career games with the temperature 40 or below, Sanchez has a QB rating of 62.5 with 3 TD and 8 INT. In his 2 starts in NE, he's posted a 30.4 passer rating with 1 TD to go with 7 INT.
Sanchez Under 215.5 Yards Passing -115On this one for 2 units. I think the Jets know they have to run the ball to stay in this game. I think they know Sanchez sucks in the cold weather, especially in New England. I think LT and Greene will get a pretty serious workout.

 
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I just realized that after funding my account in August and wagering on MLB playoffs, NFL, college football and basketball, including nearly every bowl game--averaging betting 5-10u per weekend, after nearly 6 months I am up a grand total of 1u. I'm guessing that I'm making around .03/hr for all of the time invested.

I'M WINNING!!!

 
I just realized that after funding my account in August and wagering on MLB playoffs, NFL, college football and basketball, including nearly every bowl game--averaging betting 5-10u per weekend, after nearly 6 months I am up a grand total of 1u. I'm guessing that I'm making around .03/hr for all of the time invested. I'M WINNING!!!
you're ahead of most other sports bettors
 
Funny story:

U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, citing a mistake committed by Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval when he was a federal district judge, ruled that The Venetian erred in issuing a California gambler a $499,000 line of credit in 2005.

Tuesday's ruling in San Francisco reversed a lower court decision that awarded The Venetian the unpaid debut of $499,000, including interest, incurred by Amine T. Nehme.

The three-judge panel said that Sandoval made an error by excluding evidence that showed The Venetian should not have issued Nehme the marker in September 2005.

Earlier that year, Los Angeles-based attorney Leon F. Bennett sent a letter to The Venetian asking that the casino terminate a credit line for Nehme. Similar letters were sent to two other Las Vegas casinos.

An employee at The Venetian signed the letter and returned it to Bennett, but Nehme signed for a $500,000 when he returned to the casino on Sept. 5, 2005, and proceeded to lose the entire amount playing blackjack.

When the casino sought to collect payment from Nehme's account at Bank of America, it was told there were insufficient funds to cover the debt.

The Venetian filed suit against Nehme in 2007, and received a favorable pre-trial judgment from Sandoval, who had ruled that Bennett's letter and the return receipt weren't properly authenticated and thus were excluded as evidence.

The federal appeals court ruled that had Sandoval allowed the evidence to be admitted, it would have been sufficient grounds for a full-scale trial.

The case has been sent back to a federal court in Nevada to determine if the letter and return receipt are admissible.

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Providence +410 looks like a great value m/l play. There's no reason they don't win outright here. Putting a few bucks on that.Adding some on Minnesota as a home dog as well.
Oof. Now I remember why I quit betting college B-ball. At least Minny had my back.
 
JerseyToughGuys said:
Bears +225

Falcons +300

Jets +700

Packers +500

Patriots +175

Ravens +1500

Seahawks +2000

Steelers +600
Here's another way to look at it. Pitt at +600 and a tt of 20. Jets total of 19 with +700. Pack at +500 and a tt of 22.5. All seem pretty spot on compared to each other. Rounding we can give 100 cents for each team total point (and this is close to correct but far off). Going by this with Balt tt of 17 they should be +900, instead they are +1500. Ravens probably too high but probably doesn't warrant a bet.

Betting on these things where they don't give you a "no" option is usually bad.
useful. And thanks.

(re: bolded, fading a bad line would be key here but there isn't a means)

 
JerseyToughGuys said:
Bears +225

Falcons +300

Jets +700

Packers +500

Patriots +175

Ravens +1500

Seahawks +2000

Steelers +600
Here's another way to look at it. Pitt at +600 and a tt of 20. Jets total of 19 with +700. Pack at +500 and a tt of 22.5. All seem pretty spot on compared to each other. Rounding we can give 100 cents for each team total point (and this is close to correct but far off). Going by this with Balt tt of 17 they should be +900, instead they are +1500. Ravens probably too high but probably doesn't warrant a bet.

Betting on these things where they don't give you a "no" option is usually bad.
useful. And thanks.

(re: bolded, fading a bad line would be key here but there isn't a means)
Well, you could always become a bookie.
 
Funny story:

U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, citing a mistake committed by Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval when he was a federal district judge, ruled that The Venetian erred in issuing a California gambler a $499,000 line of credit in 2005.

Tuesday's ruling in San Francisco reversed a lower court decision that awarded The Venetian the unpaid debut of $499,000, including interest, incurred by Amine T. Nehme.

The three-judge panel said that Sandoval made an error by excluding evidence that showed The Venetian should not have issued Nehme the marker in September 2005.

Earlier that year, Los Angeles-based attorney Leon F. Bennett sent a letter to The Venetian asking that the casino terminate a credit line for Nehme. Similar letters were sent to two other Las Vegas casinos.

An employee at The Venetian signed the letter and returned it to Bennett, but Nehme signed for a $500,000 when he returned to the casino on Sept. 5, 2005, and proceeded to lose the entire amount playing blackjack.

When the casino sought to collect payment from Nehme's account at Bank of America, it was told there were insufficient funds to cover the debt.

The Venetian filed suit against Nehme in 2007, and received a favorable pre-trial judgment from Sandoval, who had ruled that Bennett's letter and the return receipt weren't properly authenticated and thus were excluded as evidence.

The federal appeals court ruled that had Sandoval allowed the evidence to be admitted, it would have been sufficient grounds for a full-scale trial.

The case has been sent back to a federal court in Nevada to determine if the letter and return receipt are admissible.
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that is one helluva Free Roll.
 
I was reviewing the covers sheets. Seattle has been an underdog in 14 games this year. That is just amazing. Leaving for Vegas in a few hours. Doing lots of :own3d:

I'm starting to like the PIT ML or buying the hook off the 3 if possible.

 
Clippers getting 3.5 on a short road trip to golden state?
I'm on the clippers, opened at 4 on pinny and almost immediately went to 3.5, found a slow book and jumped in at 4. Excluding my man crush on Blake I like this team, fun team to watch.ETA: moving to 3 now, jump in at 3.5 while you can
 
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Not when the Patriots win by 20 you don't. Patriots are in that mode where they just keep scoring early and often. Good luck with the run after that happens. And I wish Jets backers even more luck with Sanchez trying to bring them back, in Foxboro. :thumbup: This team's pretty lucky to be here when you think about it...and now go up against an absolute buzzsaw. For all their talk, even the Jets D wasn't as great as it was supposed to be this year...and certainly nothing that BnB won't have a problem with. Jets are about half as good as they think they are; they come crashing down on Sunday.I do see your point though, just trying to get RN to make the right choice. :goodposting:
FWIW, the 2007 NE Patriots also looked unstoppable and were crushing people in the regular season. They were double digit favorites most of the 2nd half of the year. Their results in the playoffs: They won their playoff games by 11 points vs. Jax and 9 points vs. San Diego. Not a perfect dataset, but when NE was last "rolling", they didn't have a blowout in the playoffs. I'm still on NE -8.5.
 
ODoyleRules said:
Not when the Patriots win by 20 you don't. Patriots are in that mode where they just keep scoring early and often. Good luck with the run after that happens. And I wish Jets backers even more luck with Sanchez trying to bring them back, in Foxboro. :lmao: This team's pretty lucky to be here when you think about it...and now go up against an absolute buzzsaw. For all their talk, even the Jets D wasn't as great as it was supposed to be this year...and certainly nothing that BnB won't have a problem with. Jets are about half as good as they think they are; they come crashing down on Sunday.

I do see your point though, just trying to get RN to make the right choice. :unsure:
FWIW, the 2007 NE Patriots also looked unstoppable and were crushing people in the regular season. They were double digit favorites most of the 2nd half of the year. Their results in the playoffs: They won their playoff games by 11 points vs. Jax and 9 points vs. San Diego. Not a perfect dataset, but when NE was last "rolling", they didn't have a blowout in the playoffs. I'm still on NE -8.5.
I wasn't predicting a blowout necessarily, I was just responding to how RN can lose a teaser to the Jets (you edited that out). I was painting a scenario in which it could happen. And suggesting he take the Patriots side (-2.5), instead.That said, I obviously like Patriots. You bring up 2007 which is not that relevant, but even so, it's funny that both games would have covered the 8.5, which is you and I both care about anwyay. I don't want to get into it right now - other things to do on a Friday - but I would argue NE was definitely showing cracks late that year (remember the Baltimore game they should've lost?), which was further validated by the SB defeat. That quest for a perfect season took it's toll. Whereas this year, they are actually peaking with a young team. Again, it's something not worth focusing on really, so let's (WE) MOVE ON.

 
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A lot of the same things were said before the Ravens went into Foxboro in the playoffs last year. New England had been 8-0 at home.And how are the Jets "lucky" to be here, exactly?
Said I'd get back to this so here goes. The Ravens going in last year is again, a pretty dissimilar situation, in that you are talking about two different teams, along with a Patriots team who I think is also different (improved). I could be wrong, we'll see soon enough, but they look scary to me. Brady is in another world right now (he was not last year), and I don't see him being stopped. If I'm wrong, I lose, fair enough, but I have zero problem paying a premium for him/them in this one. I also think Sanchez is a joke, the disparity there is so large you couldn't pay me to take the Jets. If Sanchez was Earl Doofenshmutz from Tennessee Chattanooga, he'd be benched by now. :no: When I said the Jets are lucky to be there, I am talking about my opinion, not a couple of plays. Things like those 2 OT wins and getting to feast on Indy Light this year have made them look like a fortunate team, to me. I am just not impressed. They get so much press, this circus that is the Jets these days, that I think it has them a little overrated, especially with all the expectations that carried over. But ON the field, I'm not really seeing it. They're good, okay, but I don't think they're close to where the Patriots ended up, along with their cherished "2 weeks and Bill B".
 
ODoyleRules said:
Not when the Patriots win by 20 you don't. Patriots are in that mode where they just keep scoring early and often. Good luck with the run after that happens. And I wish Jets backers even more luck with Sanchez trying to bring them back, in Foxboro. :lmao: This team's pretty lucky to be here when you think about it...and now go up against an absolute buzzsaw. For all their talk, even the Jets D wasn't as great as it was supposed to be this year...and certainly nothing that BnB won't have a problem with. Jets are about half as good as they think they are; they come crashing down on Sunday.

I do see your point though, just trying to get RN to make the right choice. :thumbup:
FWIW, the 2007 NE Patriots also looked unstoppable and were crushing people in the regular season. They were double digit favorites most of the 2nd half of the year. Their results in the playoffs: They won their playoff games by 11 points vs. Jax and 9 points vs. San Diego. Not a perfect dataset, but when NE was last "rolling", they didn't have a blowout in the playoffs. I'm still on NE -8.5.
I wasn't predicting a blowout necessarily, I was just responding to how RN can lose a teaser to the Jets (you edited that out). I was painting a scenario in which it could happen. And suggesting he take the Patriots side (-2.5), instead.That said, I obviously like Patriots. You bring up 2007 which is not that relevant, but even so, it's funny that both games would have covered the 8.5, which is you and I both care about anwyay. I don't want to get into it right now - other things to do on a Friday - but I would argue NE was definitely showing cracks late that year (remember the Baltimore game they should've lost?), which was further validated by the SB defeat. That quest for a perfect season took it's toll. Whereas this year, they are actually peaking with a young team. Again, it's something not worth focusing on really, so let's (WE) MOVE ON.
I wasn't disagreeing with you (I don't think). In any case, 2 games in 2007 isn't a ton to go on as you point out. I wasn't just looking for instances in which NE was heavily favored in a home playoff game and what the result was.
 
Saturday NFL

Ravens at Steelers: Heart says Ravens, head says Steelers...despite 2 strong D's going head-to-head, any time an NFL Total is this low, it at least deserves a look, and when Big Ben is playing, games played at Pittsburgh tend to score higher than the NFL Average, no matter who the opponent is.

Steelers have won 9 of last 11 matchups played in Pitt, including earlier this Season, WITHOUT Big Ben at the helm...Flacco still struggles on the road, and when the Ravens win a road game vs a quality opponent, it's almost always because they are able to run the football well, which is tough to do vs the Steelers, which should force the Ravens to throw the football and rely on Flacco to make plays, in a situation he doesn't thrive in (on the road vs quality opponents with quality defenses).

I know you guys don't like including Totals in Teasers, but getting an NFL Game at 30 Total Points has an incredibly high percentage of cashing in, and like the Oregon/Auburn Under play, I won't be able to look myself in the mirror tomorrow if I don't find a way to put some action on a Total that low...

Packers at Falcons: Packers got the running game going last week, and if that holds true, I don't think there's a more balanced Team remaining in the playoff field. Packers have an underrated Defense: they have not allowed an opponent more than 20 Points ON THE ROAD, with the exception of the Patriots, who they played with Flynn starting in place of an injured Rodgers, and gave up a pick-six and a KO Return to their own 4 which led to an easy NE TD.

Green Bay is a better Team than Atlanta statistically on both sides of the ball, but they are on a short week, and travelling, but NOT SO FAST, my friends!!! First of all, they already played the Falcons earlier this year, held 'em to 20 points, and were victimized by an Aaron Rodgers goal-line fumble, but...

...something that's often overlooked and underrated: When you are the 6th Seed in the NFL Playoffs, you know well in advance who you will be playing if you win your Wild Card Game, so it's likely that the Packers have been game planning for Atlanta for a while now, and they should be at least schematically prepared. Packers new toy is that running game, and with the Falcons having to at least respect the run, it's going to open things up for Rodgers in the passsing game, and that doesn't look good to me.

I'm playing:

7 Point Teaser: Ravens/Steelers O30/ Packers +8.5

Steelers ML

Packers ML

ML Parlay: Steelers/Packers

Sunday stuff up later, but LOVING BOTH OVERS a whole big bunch!!!

Good Luck today!

 
Not too much I like in terms of side and total today. Maybe O Atl/gb for a smallish bet.

McGahee U 7.5 Attempts is good but expensive -140.

Flaco O 239.5 yards

Edit : Rice is sick. I don't like the McGahee under at this price anymore.

 
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Green Bay - Atlanta is now down to 1.5 spread and even on the ml at Sportsbook. Its surprising to me how little respect a 13-3 #1 seed is getting at home after two weeks rest. I'm watching the total on this one and hoping to see it bump up a bit as I like the under.

 
HUGE cbb card today, but NFL first:

4u GB/Bal teaser

CBB, 1u each, with start times listed:

12:00 ne +13

12:00 duq -1

01:00 lasalle +2.5

01:30 florida -10.5

02:00 gw -1

07:05 youngstown st +10.5

07:00 columbia -3.5

07:00 w&m +7

08:30 troy +4.5

08:05 ark st -6

10:05 cs north -2.5

10:30 ore st +4.5

02:00 app st +4.5

05:00 east kent -3

05:30 jstate -6.5

07:00 east illi +7.5

08:35 no ariz -17

04:00 tenn st -4

ytd: 84-65 56.4% +14.15

gl

 
bmj87, that's a tasty looking card you have there, good luck!

Question for you: Any idea why my offshore is quoting GW +1.5 vs Harvard? Did something go down since you wrote your card that has heavy money going on Harvard, since your play is GW -1? Would you stay off this one now?

 
My teaser lottery ticket for this round:

2u to win 16u

01/16/11 Jets (NewYork) +16

01/16/11 Jets (NewYork) Under 51.5

01/15/11 Packers (GreenBay) +8.5

01/15/11 Ravens (Baltimore) +10

01/15/11 Ravens (Baltimore) Under 44

01/16/11 Bears (Chicago) -3

01/16/11 Seahawks (Seattle) Under 50

 
bmj87, that's a tasty looking card you have there, good luck!Question for you: Any idea why my offshore is quoting GW +1.5 vs Harvard? Did something go down since you wrote your card that has heavy money going on Harvard, since your play is GW -1? Would you stay off this one now?
No idea what the hell happened there to be honest - I'm staying w/ my play, but I would stay away if you haven't already put it in.
 
BAL+3.5 (-120) Bought the hook

BAL+9/GB+8.5

ETA: Teaser is from earlier in the week along with NE-2.5/BAL+9 and NE-2.5/GB+8.5

 
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BAL+3.5 (-120) Bought the hook
Jesus... hook off a tie (not onto a tie ) costs 25 CENTS?! (BAL +3 +105 at SB) :shock: If you're trying to get from +2.5 to +3 I can MAYBE see paying that price... but to get off a push that seems like a VERY steep price. Am I ######ed here?(BTW you MIGHT get that hook free in a minute at SB. -125/+105
 
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BAL+3.5 (-120) Bought the hook
Jesus... hook off a tie (not onto a tie ) costs 25 CENTS?! (BAL +3 +105 at SB) :shock: If you're trying to get from +2.5 to +3 I can MAYBE see paying that price... but to get off a push that seems like a VERY steep price. Am I ######ed here?(BTW you MIGHT get that hook free in a minute at SB. -125/+105
I played it at SB. Had to make a play now or never. Probably going to miss most of the first half because I'm at work.
 
Flacco still struggles on the road
:banned: BALTIMORE is 6-0 ATS (+6.0 Units) in road games in games played on a grass field this season.
That's correct. I should have more specifically pointed out 'big' games and 'quality' opponents, which is relevant to today's matchup...Take a look inside the numbers when it comes to the Ravens and their success on the road, especially in 'big' games and against 'quality' opponents. Which is the situation they find themselves in today.I think you'll find invariably that they when they win those games, it's because they are able to establish the run early, and continue to pound away with great success through the course of the game, and that Flacco (who, don't get me wrong, I like, and feel he's developing into a quality NFL QB), posts average to below average stats in those situations relative to completion percentage, TD/INT ratio, yards per pass attempt and success of 3rd down conversions when a pass play is called.Establishing and maintaining the run is what wins games on the road for the Ravens, and when it comes to big games vs quality opponents on the road, if the Ravens don't do this, and the game is put in Flacco's hands, he doesn't perform well.The Ravens are very unlikely to establish and maintain a successful running game today vs the Steelers D, which is trouble for them, and when the Steelers have the ball, they are going to try like hell to put the Ravens in a position as early as possible to abandon the run and force Flacco to win the game, which he will likely struggle to do.Like I said, my heart is with the Ravens, but I don't see any way the Ravens win, or cover as a dog unless worked into a Teaser that gets them to more than +10, unless ties don't lose or push for you.Good Luck!
 

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