I love when these clowns call. I usually screw with them for a while, and the direct them to my site and tell them how awesome I am and much money they could be making if they bet $1000 per unit and followed me.Tiger Fan said:And some loud obnoxious guy will call you every saturday and sunday morning with the hard sell. I tried this in college and they would call on Saturday mornings when I was already tailgating for the LSU gamesRaider Nation said:Well, the "scam" is that you get the Saints, and the next guy who calls is given the Seahawks. And so on and so on. 50% of the people will be happy and they'll call him again. Then half of THOSE people will win again, and they'll think the guy is a God. And the people who lose the second time will think "Well, maybe it was just a bad break. He did win for me the first time!"modogg said:i get tempted to call from time to time. i can't figure out the scam, mostly because i never called any of these places. i assume you have to give some info or money to hear their pick?Raider Nation said:Just a heads up. Stone's GAME OF THE WEEK is going tonight. Michael Rose, too. His GAME OF THE WEEK is going tonight.Those commercials have been running forever...guy must be raking it inHeard a commercial on Sirius today for Jonathan Stone.
Evidently he's a great handicapper. Hitting over 75%! And you won't believe the luck... his Game of the Year is going THIS WEEK!
I wasn't convinced at first, but then he said that we can move on this game as if it's already been played!!!
It's the most uncanny thing.... no matter what day you hear their radio spots, every scamdicapper's GAME OF THE WEEK just happens to be going that night! Imagine the odds. A "week" must = 24 hours to them.
As for the bait and switch with the money, I'm not sure exactly how that works but I'm pretty sure you aren't getting anything for "free".... I would keep this guy on for as long as I could until he figured out I wasn't going to buy his picks.
I've used Eastman a few times this year, he has been outstanding in college. Something like 20-5 over the last few weeks. He did get his ### handed to him last week thoughThe Ref said:There are a few reliable touts out there. They arent the ones barking at you on TV Sunday mornings on the Home Shopping Network.Dan Lambskin said:One of my buddies was subscribing to a tout last basketball season
I think his 5 star picks were 10-0 until I started gambling again and laid down $200 so he could drop to 10-1
So... not to be a highlighting jerk, but whats the chances the Broncos beat the Titans by 12 this week?The Ref said:Seattle -6.5/Under 48.5/Broncos -12
167/1000
you have a hell of a hedging opportunity with this. Nice job bud, i have to start throwing some parlays around and hit one like that before the season is doneSo... not to be a highlighting jerk, but whats the chances the Broncos beat the Titans by 12 this week?The Ref said:Seattle -6.5/Under 48.5/Broncos -12
167/1000
I lost on a teaser too. When that Saints ATS line kept getting bet and going the wrong direction it was like how low could have they set the Saints line and still get action? Yet they set that high number and opened themselves up for all kinds of teaser action. It's like, how are they going to give us all these points on the Saints, but there you have it brohan. Realized that way too late to do anything about it though. But the RLM and high opening number should have sent a message. Definitely kicking rocks on that one..hmm, that would make sense because i would have no idea what to bet with that. ov 14 New Orleans maybe, but they haven't been able to drive too well, and SEA is one of those defenses that take pride in their D, and won't let up just because they have a good leadI think they set the 2H at PK and put both team totals at 14![]()
ETA: might go SEA to make up for the ton of New Orleans teasers i put in last night. Wish i could kick my own ### sometimes, i liked SEA for most of the week, and i saw that SF-SEA game from earlier this year thinking we would see something similar. yet i still made a good number of teasers with N.O.
Yup, you figure we would catch on at some point but keep plugging away. I had all sorts of bets in on this one, and the damage only ended up being -$43, so i will take it. Crazy how that happens, and usually is the lead-in for one of those to go wrong and take a nosedive with the acct. balance, so i may lay low for a day or 2.I lost on a teaser too. When that Saints ATS line kept getting bet and going the wrong direction it was like how low could have they set the Saints line and still get action? Yet they set that high number and opened themselves up for all kinds of teaser action. It's like, how are they going to give us all these points on the Saints, but there you have it brohan. Realized that way too late to do anything about it though. But the RLM and high opening number should have sent a message. Definitely kicking rocks on that one..hmm, that would make sense because i would have no idea what to bet with that. ov 14 New Orleans maybe, but they haven't been able to drive too well, and SEA is one of those defenses that take pride in their D, and won't let up just because they have a good leadI think they set the 2H at PK and put both team totals at 14![]()
ETA: might go SEA to make up for the ton of New Orleans teasers i put in last night. Wish i could kick my own ### sometimes, i liked SEA for most of the week, and i saw that SF-SEA game from earlier this year thinking we would see something similar. yet i still made a good number of teasers with N.O.
How did you make out on all your futures getting graded yesterday?Yup, you figure we would catch on at some point but keep plugging away. I had all sorts of bets in on this one, and the damage only ended up being -$43, so i will take it. Crazy how that happens, and usually is the lead-in for one of those to go wrong and take a nosedive with the acct. balance, so i may lay low for a day or 2.
not so hot. Total crap shoot for me with CFB. But the acct. is still positive so so far, so good. I have a couple of nasty NFL futures on the horizon (mother f'n TexansHow did you make out on all your futures getting graded yesterday?Yup, you figure we would catch on at some point but keep plugging away. I had all sorts of bets in on this one, and the damage only ended up being -$43, so i will take it. Crazy how that happens, and usually is the lead-in for one of those to go wrong and take a nosedive with the acct. balance, so i may lay low for a day or 2.![]()
), but i have a few nice one's too. Definitely went overboard with NFL futures this year, and luckily i hit a good chunk of them so if i take some losses it shouldn't be too bad.
Definitely went overboard with NFL futures this year, and luckily i hit a good chunk of them so if i take some losses it shouldn't be too bad.
sorry this didn't cash, didn't mean to sound like a ####ChainsawU said:Because games land on 19 less than 1% of the time?LOCO said:Saints + 19.5. Why not![]()
So i have been looking around some more to get a sense of who has the lead with this OROY race. It is funny since the time you wrote this post GR, because Stacy and Glennon seemed to fall back down quite a bit this week. Unfortunately Lacy and Gio both came up a little limp too, so it didn't seem to move the needle much in any direction. I tried looking through NFL.com and some other sites that could compile thoughts, but nothing stood out as that useful. Profootballfocus has Lacy and Gio in the discussion (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/26/race-for-rookie-of-the-year-week-12-2/). but i haven't found much substance anywhere.Gio, Lacy, Stacy, Glennon I believe. I vote Lacy.Not getting as much participation over in the Shark Pool post I made anymore.... OROY is down to Lacy, Gio and Allen now right?
The result of this has me on Leveon Bell huge over there. He had a good week (i think over 130 combined yards), but there doesn't seem to be any buzz about him so i am worried for him. I think i literally have half of my pending bets over there on Bell, which is just crazy.I think Gio has the best shot. Leads rookies in TDs, second? in total yards and is on a division leader.So i have been looking around some more to get a sense of who has the lead with this OROY race. It is funny since the time you wrote this post GR, because Stacy and Glennon seemed to fall back down quite a bit this week. Unfortunately Lacy and Gio both came up a little limp too, so it didn't seem to move the needle much in any direction. I tried looking through NFL.com and some other sites that could compile thoughts, but nothing stood out as that useful. Profootballfocus has Lacy and Gio in the discussion (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/26/race-for-rookie-of-the-year-week-12-2/). but i haven't found much substance anywhere.Gio, Lacy, Stacy, Glennon I believe. I vote Lacy.Not getting as much participation over in the Shark Pool post I made anymore.... OROY is down to Lacy, Gio and Allen now right?
Reason i was checking is because i checked my future bets at 5dimes, and i don't think i made one of them before 1:30 a.m.The result of this has me on Leveon Bell huge over there. He had a good week (i think over 130 combined yards), but there doesn't seem to be any buzz about him so i am worried for him. I think i literally have half of my pending bets over there on Bell, which is just crazy.
But from everything i have read over the last hour or so, i would say Lacy seems to be the favorite at this point. And it isn't like there are a few candidates in the discussion, it is more like nobody stands out as being that dominant to take it, so it could be somewhat wide open if somebody puts on a show the last few weeks. Glennon is the one that would really F me, but it looks like he has SF, @STL, and @New Orleans yet, so he should not be able to blow up in those.
any thoughts?
I only have Lacy and Gio tickets. Glennon is the one who scares me. Huge QB bias in this voting and he just won Offensive rookie of the month. Allen had another big week as well.I think Gio has the best shot. Leads rookies in TDs, second? in total yards and is on a division leader.So i have been looking around some more to get a sense of who has the lead with this OROY race. It is funny since the time you wrote this post GR, because Stacy and Glennon seemed to fall back down quite a bit this week. Unfortunately Lacy and Gio both came up a little limp too, so it didn't seem to move the needle much in any direction. I tried looking through NFL.com and some other sites that could compile thoughts, but nothing stood out as that useful. Profootballfocus has Lacy and Gio in the discussion (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/11/26/race-for-rookie-of-the-year-week-12-2/). but i haven't found much substance anywhere.Gio, Lacy, Stacy, Glennon I believe. I vote Lacy.Not getting as much participation over in the Shark Pool post I made anymore.... OROY is down to Lacy, Gio and Allen now right?
Reason i was checking is because i checked my future bets at 5dimes, and i don't think i made one of them before 1:30 a.m.The result of this has me on Leveon Bell huge over there. He had a good week (i think over 130 combined yards), but there doesn't seem to be any buzz about him so i am worried for him. I think i literally have half of my pending bets over there on Bell, which is just crazy.
But from everything i have read over the last hour or so, i would say Lacy seems to be the favorite at this point. And it isn't like there are a few candidates in the discussion, it is more like nobody stands out as being that dominant to take it, so it could be somewhat wide open if somebody puts on a show the last few weeks. Glennon is the one that would really F me, but it looks like he has SF, @STL, and @New Orleans yet, so he should not be able to blow up in those.
any thoughts?
50/50So... not to be a highlighting jerk, but whats the chances the Broncos beat the Titans by 12 this week?The Ref said:Seattle -6.5/Under 48.5/Broncos -12
167/1000
Thinking I may hop aboard... Cards haven't been too impressive lately and Bearcats have been playing wellI bought Cincinnati U +3½ 105/100 and added to the partybus for Thursday. Just taking the best price on the market and three is a good number to have.
Actually thinking about this more...the shark move is to ignore the heisman and pounce on the national championship line if it's announced that Winston is getting charged.If you toss a couple units on everything except Winston and the field, how do you lose if the po-po come calling for Winston?So, my book just re-listed their Heisman odds.
Surprised to see this up, I'm thinking of throwing some money at McCarron in the event the Winston stuff blows up. He himself looked great on Saturday/ all season, so I don't think his performance took him out of the running even with a loss.
Here's their odds right now. Thinking a few units, shot at the bookie play here. Thoughts?
McCarron +2000
Williams +2000
Miller +1000
Petty +2000
Winston -2500
Johnny Football +2000
Lynch +300
Mariota +5000
Boyd +10000
Bridgewater +2500
Field +3500
Worth a shot, no?
I am with you here. There is a reason these odds are 20/1-ish on everyone else, total crap shoot. FSU not covering in the NCG w/o Winston is a little more of a good bet.Actually thinking about this more...the shark move is to ignore the heisman and pounce on the national championship line if it's announced that Winston is getting charged.If you toss a couple units on everything except Winston and the field, how do you lose if the po-po come calling for Winston?So, my book just re-listed their Heisman odds.
Surprised to see this up, I'm thinking of throwing some money at McCarron in the event the Winston stuff blows up. He himself looked great on Saturday/ all season, so I don't think his performance took him out of the running even with a loss.
Here's their odds right now. Thinking a few units, shot at the bookie play here. Thoughts?
McCarron +2000
Williams +2000
Miller +1000
Petty +2000
Winston -2500
Johnny Football +2000
Lynch +300
Mariota +5000
Boyd +10000
Bridgewater +2500
Field +3500
Worth a shot, no?
Wow imagine the disaster if FSU is in the title game and Winston can't play
And here is another game at that 3.5..... The books are just asking for the public to jump on the favorites here.Thinking I may hop aboard... Cards haven't been too impressive lately and Bearcats have been playing wellI bought Cincinnati U +3½ 105/100 and added to the partybus for Thursday. Just taking the best price on the market and three is a good number to have.
The lou/cin line opened at lou-7, bookmaker took a bunch of cincy betsAnd here is another game at that 3.5..... The books are just asking for the public to jump on the favorites here.Thinking I may hop aboard... Cards haven't been too impressive lately and Bearcats have been playing wellI bought Cincinnati U +3½ 105/100 and added to the partybus for Thursday. Just taking the best price on the market and three is a good number to have.
Looks like Arizona St will get to 3.5 if it isn't there already.....
My prediction is the Books are going to crush NCAA this week.
Pacific Time Louisville Cincinnati U 12/01/13 09:58:00am -3½-110 +3½-110 12/01/13 09:57:57am -3½-124 +3½+103 12/01/13 09:57:27am -3-124 +3+103 12/01/13 08:51:55am -3-115 +3-105 12/01/13 08:51:51am -3-102 +3-119 12/01/13 08:50:55am -3½-102 +3½-119 12/01/13 08:43:01am -3½-110 +3½-110 12/01/13 08:42:59am -3½-102 +3½-119 12/01/13 08:42:31am -4-102 +4-119 12/01/13 08:42:06am -4-110 +4-110 12/01/13 08:35:47am -4½-110 +4½-110 12/01/13 08:10:35am -5-110 +5-110 12/01/13 08:10:34am -5-102 +5-119 12/01/13 08:09:52am -6-102 +6-119 12/01/13 07:51:39am -6-110 +6-110 12/01/13 07:51:38am -6-108 +6-112 12/01/13 07:50:56am -6½-108 +6½-112 12/01/13 07:46:05am -6½-110 +6½-110 12/01/13 07:46:02am -7-110 +7-110
That is crazy considering it was a "game of year" line at UL -3. That means that somehow between the beginning of the season and that opening line, someone decided that UL is much better than people thought and/or Cincy is much worse than expected. I would have thought the exact opposite.The lou/cin line opened at lou-7, bookmaker took a bunch of cincy betsAnd here is another game at that 3.5..... The books are just asking for the public to jump on the favorites here.Thinking I may hop aboard... Cards haven't been too impressive lately and Bearcats have been playing wellI bought Cincinnati U +3½ 105/100 and added to the partybus for Thursday. Just taking the best price on the market and three is a good number to have.
Looks like Arizona St will get to 3.5 if it isn't there already.....
My prediction is the Books are going to crush NCAA this week.
Pacific Time Louisville Cincinnati U 12/01/13 09:58:00am -3½-110 +3½-110 12/01/13 09:57:57am -3½-124 +3½+103 12/01/13 09:57:27am -3-124 +3+103 12/01/13 08:51:55am -3-115 +3-105 12/01/13 08:51:51am -3-102 +3-119 12/01/13 08:50:55am -3½-102 +3½-119 12/01/13 08:43:01am -3½-110 +3½-110 12/01/13 08:42:59am -3½-102 +3½-119 12/01/13 08:42:31am -4-102 +4-119 12/01/13 08:42:06am -4-110 +4-110 12/01/13 08:35:47am -4½-110 +4½-110 12/01/13 08:10:35am -5-110 +5-110 12/01/13 08:10:34am -5-102 +5-119 12/01/13 08:09:52am -6-102 +6-119 12/01/13 07:51:39am -6-110 +6-110 12/01/13 07:51:38am -6-108 +6-112 12/01/13 07:50:56am -6½-108 +6½-112 12/01/13 07:46:05am -6½-110 +6½-110 12/01/13 07:46:02am -7-110 +7-110
We'll see. I'm much more impressed by NIUs recent wins over Ball St and @ Toledo than I am with BGSU beating Buffalo and a bunch of bottom feeders. Granted the Ball St game was closer than the score but they're better competition than what BG has faced latelyThe sucker line of the week is the Fresno -3.5. I didn't even think that was right when I first looked at it. Then I had a closer look at Utah St post Chuckie Keaton death and they have played VERY well.
EDIT - I think the NIU line is asking for trouble too. BG has played well.
I dunno Fresno was emabrassing last week lettin gup 450 yards passing int he first half I believeThe sucker line of the week is the Fresno -3.5. I didn't even think that was right when I first looked at it. Then I had a closer look at Utah St post Chuckie Keaton death and they have played VERY well.
EDIT - I think the NIU line is asking for trouble too. BG has played well.
Not a bleeping chance. I had about 4 prop unders in that Ariz St Stanford game and they all went up in flames. It may be a good bet, but I'm not going anywhere near an under for that matchup.One line I like this weekend but I think I'll wait on, is the Arizona State/Stanford UNDER 56. Graham was on SVP yesterday talking about his team's need to run 80+ plays, and how difficult that is to do vs Stanford. First meeting was 42-28 but included a lot of ASU garbage points, so I think the public will lean on the over here...at least I'm hoping.
Also I'd bet Okie State this weekend if I bet against my team. Line opened at 11 and is down to 9.5 now, I'd grab that.
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2013/12/3/5170742/jameis-winston-favorite-win-heisman-trophy-oddsI am with you here. There is a reason these odds are 20/1-ish on everyone else, total crap shoot. FSU not covering in the NCG w/o Winston is a little more of a good bet.Actually thinking about this more...the shark move is to ignore the heisman and pounce on the national championship line if it's announced that Winston is getting charged.If you toss a couple units on everything except Winston and the field, how do you lose if the po-po come calling for Winston?So, my book just re-listed their Heisman odds.
Surprised to see this up, I'm thinking of throwing some money at McCarron in the event the Winston stuff blows up. He himself looked great on Saturday/ all season, so I don't think his performance took him out of the running even with a loss.
Here's their odds right now. Thinking a few units, shot at the bookie play here. Thoughts?
McCarron +2000
Williams +2000
Miller +1000
Petty +2000
Winston -2500
Johnny Football +2000
Lynch +300
Mariota +5000
Boyd +10000
Bridgewater +2500
Field +3500
Worth a shot, no?
Wow imagine the disaster if FSU is in the title game and Winston can't play
Winston's odds to win the Heisman at various sports books range from 1/20 to1/101/5. Even the most conservative, at 1/5, puts him at roughly 15X more likely to win than the runner up. And indeed, the story of the Heisman is fast becoming who will finish second.
In ESPN's experts poll, Winston garnered every single 1st-place vote. In other polls, Winston is earning at least two out of every three.
Just to put it out there...FSU is loaded with NFL type talent. Sean Maguire played in the last 3 games against crap opponents ( Wake/Syracuse/Idaho ) but had ratings of 96/121/124 in very limited action (21 attempts). Give him time to prepare and I think they still beat OSU or Auburn. The defense gave up 34 to BC, 17 to NCState and nobody else scored over 14. The only time FSU didn't score over 40 was last week and they have 4 running backs that have elite college talent. I'll wait and play FSU after the public over reacts the wrong way....unless they're playing Mizzou, which scares me as a fan.I am with you here. There is a reason these odds are 20/1-ish on everyone else, total crap shoot. FSU not covering in the NCG w/o Winston is a little more of a good bet.Actually thinking about this more...the shark move is to ignore the heisman and pounce on the national championship line if it's announced that Winston is getting charged.If you toss a couple units on everything except Winston and the field, how do you lose if the po-po come calling for Winston?So, my book just re-listed their Heisman odds.
Surprised to see this up, I'm thinking of throwing some money at McCarron in the event the Winston stuff blows up. He himself looked great on Saturday/ all season, so I don't think his performance took him out of the running even with a loss.
Here's their odds right now. Thinking a few units, shot at the bookie play here. Thoughts?
McCarron +2000
Williams +2000
Miller +1000
Petty +2000
Winston -2500
Johnny Football +2000
Lynch +300
Mariota +5000
Boyd +10000
Bridgewater +2500
Field +3500
Worth a shot, no?
Wow imagine the disaster if FSU is in the title game and Winston can't play
I figure both teams can score 3 TDs - average total points scored in their two games last year was 72 points. SNF action to boot. Nugs let me twist your arm here brohan.I bought Cincinnati U +3½ 105/100 and added to the partybus for Thursday. Just taking the best price on the market and three is a good number to have.
Well then, your knowledge isn't so good, now is it? And I am 100% sure of this. But hey, mighty big of you to dig up an alias to go out and make false allegations. And it's 4 years you've been holding onto this??Still hasn't paid up for the ncaa $1 game to my knowledge. This was 2009!!OK it movedSLBD sighting?
hmm..didnt' see anything about that on TVLoudest stadium I've ever been in, btw. HTH.
Bovada:UMass -5
Georgia Tech -2
Notre Dame +7.5