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People not understanding he basics of math and odds. So silly.https://twitter.com/shanephallam/status/1483099862325510150?s=21
The buy it now price is $7000, for a team in a $500 league.If you finished in first place three years in a row, your net winnings would be $6500.
Thanks for noticing that my team in the FBG FFPC league is pretty darn good, but I wouldn’t call it a juggernaut
At the $250 tier, I sold one for $125 and $175, where I bought last year for $129 and $198 respectively.
Possibly. FFPC rakes a ridiculous amount on prize money as well and although people complain, everything still sells out and as pointed out they have never folded a dynasty. So *shrugs*.
For reference, 37 FPs is the value I have on Waddle right now. If I say I improved by ~60 FPs in one year, think of that as two free quality starters.
Ok make that 5. I accepted a bid on one yesterday but I guess the buyer backed out. Poop.
I saw and good job turning a bunch of teams around.barackdhouse said:
Thanks but although they improved (according to *my own* numbers), I wouldn't say I turned them around just yet.
These teams all suck really bad still.barackdhouse said:
A little of all of the above. Yes on DD. The one from yesterday was going to be a (small) loss just so I can get it off my ledger but I also sold a couple for profit or right around cost. I *probably* could have got more by waiting but needed to break the seal on moving some of these.
I wanted to consolidate last year and sold a lot of teams so I don't have much good stock for sale now. I did sell a 500 team for a small profit; it was a 2021 startup that was imo very fortunate to win it all first yr and I decided to cash out. I have tried to sell a couple of less attractive teams and had the same experience as you, very low bids.
So when you and @barackdhouse add up the Hindery value numbers for your FFPC teams, what are you basing it on, 14 best players, 18, 20? Do you add value for draft picks?
As soon as the season is over, I start looking at the 14 I'm going to keep. The numbers I posted above for one year ago vs now are based off of 14 roster spots. I also add value for draft picks. For future picks, I either add or deduct based off anything above or below the standard one pick per round. For current picks I go pick by pick but don't really count anything beyond 3rds. Anyway it isn't perfect by any means. And questionable as to it's utility. Mostly it satisfies my desire to be a dork. But it seems to show good results. And I don't think I'm bull####ting myself since a couple of these teams are very stagnant and/or getting worse. There *are* players that I am way lower or higher on than consensus but the vast majority of my values are pretty consistent with market IMO.
I like your idea to put a value on your overall teams. Pretty cool and useful way to see if your team is improving or declining y/y.
Yeah? To keep Antonio Brown or Bryan Edwards? Perhaps. I have an interested buyer for Brown actually. And I also don't mind cutting him. I think there is a strong chance for Herbert to emerge, at least to an extent, this year. I don't imagine I can get more than a 3rd for him. I think this is a classic example of something @menobrownand I have talked a lot about, and I've probably blabbed about upthread. It is so difficult to roster upside dart throws in this format. You have to make all kinds of moves that IMO are FFPC specific because of how tight the window here is.
I was on a trip when you asked this and forgot to respond but know @barackdhouse already has. For me I just took value of top 16 assets. No perfect system.
Yeah the format is tricky for end of roster cutdowns. I should have clarified I meant since your value of him if that is accurate at 7, is way below market, then you could flip for a 1st and find a cheaper backup.
I look at dynasty rankings and Hindrey's dynasty values for my 3 dynasty leagues all the time of course but, honestly, for FFPC leagues, I almost treat them like redraft since you can keep sooooo few dart throws, as was mentioned already.
QB: I have Allen, but also have Mac Jones and Cousins I’d love to only keep 1 QB in this format, but my RB, WR, TE depth isn’t great, so one of those 2 QBs is likely a better "value" for me to keep. But I’m of 2 minds: I would argue the opposite. If your depth at other positions isn't great then keeping a 2nd QB is worse value. IMO. Sort of depends on the specific players but...
1) "dynasty" value should lead me to keep Mac Jones, the younger up and coming QB who showed really well in his rookie year (as a real NFL QB at least, not as much as a fantasy QB) but… he probably has a better statistical chance of having higher value than one of these dart throws (say Herbert or Palmer). But *if* one of those guys hits it will be at a *much* higher level than one of your backup QBs that you might rarely start (but could theoretically flip for something). Mac Jones production can be found on the wire and most sharp FFPC owners know that. Cousins is perhaps a tier above but if my goal is more depth at RB/WR/TE then I want to keep those guys over 2nd QBs. But again, not all dart throws are created equal and it depends on the actual players involved. I wouldn't drop Cousins for quite a few names. But I would for Herbert or Palmer in this example.
Thoughts welcome, knowing that 11 other league mates are on this board, so they can feed misinformation here if they want
I also have Herbert RB CHI, just like Barack does in his other league, and he’s a keeper for me, but again, right at the edge of the keeper list since my roster is Vet-heavy/Win Now yeah I'll buy him
i honestly like this format since I think it allows lower teams to have a bigger pool of what-if players to chose from on the wire during the draft and during the season. Yes, and it also occasionally forces owner's hands in terms of them dropping a 2nd or 3rd QB or some other asset that feeds the FAAB beast.
TLDR it is hard to let valuable players go. It just is. And really hard to trade players when everybody is trying to consolidate to get to 16.
I manage my teams with a fairly simple approach of trying to keep 14 most valuable players. Obviously if it was really close I'd nudge a QB down over one of the other positions but a part of dynasty is collecting assets and I try and focus my off-season cut down to retaining the 14 most valuable one's.
I have him on 3 FFPC teams including two with Herbert and was looking forward to that connection being a thing. I will be cutting him in all 3 and I will do so with acknowledgement he might be something one day but I on the other hand I can't I've seen enough to say he's worth waiting out Allen or Mike Williams to leave, of course if one gets hurt is all you need. He'd be an incredible player to put on a taxi squad if FFPC was that kind of league.
That really is the simplest way to think of it, and for me where I mildly disagree is that, again depending on the specific players and my team, I would rather keep the RB/WR/TE with *less* value than the QB with *more* value. Based on the upside being higher.
)For the most part I totally agree and if I'm keeping an non-elite QB it's either because my 15th man is of little to no value and/or my QB1 is not great. One such league this is the case happens to be our league where I'm keeping Rodgers due to combo of my 15th man is of no value to me and just in case something goes amiss with Lance.
And yes I agree and off top of my head @joeyhas Josh Allen so I'd need to not like my 15th man very much to keep Cousins. I would not keep Cousins on my other teams. Saying that I'm not sure he's any worse then no-Adams Rodgers who I'm keeping in the same league, but I don't have Josh Allen and like I just said don't put a lot of value on anyone I'm cutting especially after shedding two rosters spots this off-season.
to lay it out there and make it totally a WDIS post
Easy peasy. If that is my list I am absolutely keeping Cousins.to lay it out there and make it totally a WDIS post
I need to pick 2 from: Cousins,Roddy Anderson,Hardman,Mac Jones , CJ Uzomah, Eskridge, Cephus
so you can see how I’m considering keeping a 2nd QB looking at the rest of that dreck.
and, yes, I have Josh Allen in this league.
I'd keep both and you remind me I had Dak as my QB2 to Mahomes in a league. I can't recall the exact scenario but I know weather was a factor that led me in final week 16 to for the first time since Mahomes became the starter to bench him for Dak. Cost myself a championship and from that point on I could not wait to get rid of Dak, finally unloaded him for two seconds' as much out of spite as roster room.
This is why I don't play SF. Everything about it works against me and would make me worse competitively speaking. Two area's I consider myself to do well in dynasty relative to my comp is find stud QB's for peanuts and build a better back end roster usually leading to tougher cuts then most. I see the appeal of SF and certainly wish QB's had more value in standard FFPC but it would just take away my ability to acquire QB's cheaply and make my cuts even more difficult.
