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FFPC dynasty and redraft thread (2 Viewers)

So for you FFPC folks and these small rosters, where do you rank these tight ends? How high would you be willing to draft them knowing how tight end careers generally start out?
I should probably keep these opinions to myself sometimes but Kincaid is my lone exception. Need more info still but at this time someone I'm prepared to spend an early middle first round pick on if that info does not come back negative.

I have a high opinion of the TE class, think it's worth the hype, but everyone else is a second or later and the depth of the class I'm thinking might push back some good value. So the smart play is to probably draft a few of them in the late second-7th round range, see how things shape out in camp and games if you can hold them, because a lot of gold has been found with later TE picks but the issue has often been knowing that and holding onto it.

If I had one of those dead roster orphan teams with a lot of room I'd try and pick up a slew of 3-5th round picks and draft a bunch of them.
 
So for you FFPC folks and these small rosters, where do you rank these tight ends? How high would you be willing to draft them knowing how tight end careers generally start out?

I know it’s hard in short bench in the off-season leagues to hold TEs for potential unless you have a bad/rebuilding team. This a deep TE class, and roughly what NFL round they get picked, they will go in similar FFPC rookie draft round.
 
So, we are past the renewal date. Are all the teams listed for sale on the FFPC site (not Dynasty Depot) now orphans? There are two teams there from one of my leagues and trying to determine if those owners are definitely out or what.

I want to be able to strike quickly when the new blood comes.
 
So, we are past the renewal date. Are all the teams listed for sale on the FFPC site (not Dynasty Depot) now orphans? There are two teams there from one of my leagues and trying to determine if those owners are definitely out or what.

I want to be able to strike quickly when the new blood comes.

I have a team for which I've paid the renewal, but I wanted to see if I could sell it. It's been listed on the orphans page for months. They said they would take it down March 7, but as of now it's still up there, so my guess is the list still includes paid teams.
 
@barackdhouse

Ok peeps, Barak and I just finished a FFPC 2hr NTE BB draft, can you guess our draft slots? Which team if any do you like better?


Russell Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa
Antonio Gibson, Travis Etienne, Kenneth Walker, Rachaad White, Tyrion Davis-Price, Israel Abanikanda
Darius Slayton, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, Joshua Palmer, Terrace Marshall, Michael Pittman, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett, DJ Chark
Mike Gesicki, Travis Kelce, Albert Okwuegbunam


Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Jahmyr Gibbs, Pierre Strong, Alvin Kamara, Jamaal Williams, Damien Harris, Cam Akers, JaMycal Hasty
CeeDee Lamb, Jakobi Meyers, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Khalil Shakir, Wan'Dale Robinson, Chris Olave
Darnell Washington, Greg Dulcich, Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goedert
 
@barackdhouse

Ok peeps, Barak and I just finished a FFPC 2hr NTE BB draft, can you guess our draft slots? Which team if any do you like better?


Russell Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa
Antonio Gibson, Travis Etienne, Kenneth Walker, Rachaad White, Tyrion Davis-Price, Israel Abanikanda
Darius Slayton, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, Joshua Palmer, Terrace Marshall, Michael Pittman, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett, DJ Chark
Mike Gesicki, Travis Kelce, Albert Okwuegbunam


Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Jahmyr Gibbs, Pierre Strong, Alvin Kamara, Jamaal Williams, Damien Harris, Cam Akers, JaMycal Hasty
CeeDee Lamb, Jakobi Meyers, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Khalil Shakir, Wan'Dale Robinson, Chris Olave
Darnell Washington, Greg Dulcich, Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goedert
I think I'm in a draft with you right now.

Barak is the first team, NE is the second. Some obvious tells on both sides but especially for Barak.

Guessing pick 5 for Barak. Will predict 9 for you.
 
@barackdhouse

Ok peeps, Barak and I just finished a FFPC 2hr NTE BB draft, can you guess our draft slots? Which team if any do you like better?


Russell Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa
Antonio Gibson, Travis Etienne, Kenneth Walker, Rachaad White, Tyrion Davis-Price, Israel Abanikanda
Darius Slayton, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, Joshua Palmer, Terrace Marshall, Michael Pittman, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett, DJ Chark
Mike Gesicki, Travis Kelce, Albert Okwuegbunam


Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Jahmyr Gibbs, Pierre Strong, Alvin Kamara, Jamaal Williams, Damien Harris, Cam Akers, JaMycal Hasty
CeeDee Lamb, Jakobi Meyers, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Khalil Shakir, Wan'Dale Robinson, Chris Olave
Darnell Washington, Greg Dulcich, Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goedert
I think I'm in a draft with you right now.

Barak is the first team, NE is the second. Some obvious tells on both sides but especially for Barak.

Guessing pick 5 for Barak. Will predict 9 for you.

Agree on the teams. I think Batak picked 4 and NE picked 8
 
@barackdhouse

Ok peeps, Barak and I just finished a FFPC 2hr NTE BB draft, can you guess our draft slots? Which team if any do you like better?


Russell Wilson, Tua Tagovailoa
Antonio Gibson, Travis Etienne, Kenneth Walker, Rachaad White, Tyrion Davis-Price, Israel Abanikanda
Darius Slayton, Skyy Moore, Kadarius Toney, Joshua Palmer, Terrace Marshall, Michael Pittman, Keenan Allen, Tyler Lockett, DJ Chark
Mike Gesicki, Travis Kelce, Albert Okwuegbunam


Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence
Jahmyr Gibbs, Pierre Strong, Alvin Kamara, Jamaal Williams, Damien Harris, Cam Akers, JaMycal Hasty
CeeDee Lamb, Jakobi Meyers, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Khalil Shakir, Wan'Dale Robinson, Chris Olave
Darnell Washington, Greg Dulcich, Jake Ferguson, Dallas Goedert
I think I'm in a draft with you right now.

Barak is the first team, NE is the second. Some obvious tells on both sides but especially for Barak.

Guessing pick 5 for Barak. Will predict 9 for you.

Agree on the teams. I think Batak picked 4 and NE picked 8
Those were truly the other two draft prediction spots I was going to throw out, was thinking 4-5 or 8-9.

Kelce's the big indicator for Barak's team of where you'd normally need to be and how far back could NE go where he could draft Kupp in round one and get Lamb in round two was what I was mainly using to guess.
 
I think I'm in a draft with you right now.
Sneaky guy!

Embarrassingly I must confess to falling asleep last night and autoing my 3-4 turn picks with my q empty (oy). Was not the direction I wanted to go, but both decent players and I can live with it.

Will withhold any comments on the guesses until others have a chance.
 
I think I'm in a draft with you right now.
Sneaky guy!

Embarrassingly I must confess to falling asleep last night and autoing my 3-4 turn picks with my q empty (oy). Was not the direction I wanted to go, but both decent players and I can live with it.

Will withhold any comments on the guesses until others have a chance.
Ha, was not even trying to be sneaky and in fact did not even check out owners until I went to see who was the guy who timed out on two picks last night! They were solid choices though, I've drafted one of them this year higher by actual choice.
 
Yeah you guys basically nailed it. I was team 3 (Kelce) and NE was team 8 (Kupp). I timed out with the Tua pick but don't totally hate it. My plan was to wait there and take Wilson with my next pick but grab another RB or WR instead of Tua. Oh well.
 
I did another $35 NVE SuperFlex BB sit n go with the 30 second clock. Several people were on autodraft but I love the team I put together (if Howell gets the job anyway):

J Herbert, Geno, Howell
Barkley, R White, K Herbert, Gibson, Mattison, Abanikanda, TDP
Metcalf, Watson, Lockett, Dotson, Doubs, Chark, Slayton
Hockenson, Everett, Woods

Would have preferred to be deeper at WR
 
I'm in a $500 Triflex league. This team was apparently abandoned and has been on sale for $1 for weeks. This might be the worst team I've ever seen. Goff is the most valuable player (aside from the 1.04), and he's the only one I would categorize as a "definite keeper." I don't think there's anyone else on the roster worth drafting in the first 120 startup picks. I don't see how anyone would agree to take on this team. Can anyone beat this?

QB: J. Goff (DET), T. Huntley (BAL), T. Brady (FA)
RB: C. Edwards-Helaire (KC), J. Robinson (NYJ), C. Hubbard (CAR), Z. Moss (IND), M. Gordon (FA), N. Hines (BUF), G. Edwards (BAL)
WR: A. Lazard (GB), M. Thomas (NO), T. Boyd (CIN), A. Thielen (MIN), R. Woods (FA), O. Beckham (FA), M. Hollins (LV), M. Hardman (KC), L. Shenault (CAR), C. Austin (PIT), K. Shakir (BUF)
TE: T. Conklin (NYJ), R. Tonyan (GB)
2023 Draft Picks: 1.4, 2.4, 5.4, 5.12, 6.4, 6.12, 7.4
2024 Draft Picks: R1, R2, R3, R4, R5, R6, R7
 
Questions regarding FFPC dynasty - the total roster spots seem small compared to the number of starting spots. Much smaller than what I am used to (25 -28 roster spots in start 1 QB). Just trying to understand how that affects FFPC dynasty - are studs more important? Is waiver wire a bigger player than deeper dynasty leagues? FFPC dynasty seems more stable but just want to understand how smaller rosters impact an owner. thanks in advance!
 
Questions regarding FFPC dynasty - the total roster spots seem small compared to the number of starting spots. Much smaller than what I am used to (25 -28 roster spots in start 1 QB). Just trying to understand how that affects FFPC dynasty - are studs more important? Is waiver wire a bigger player than deeper dynasty leagues? FFPC dynasty seems more stable but just want to understand how smaller rosters impact an owner. thanks in advance!
Yeah the cutdown is super steep. We talk about it in here all the time. I suppose there are different schools of thought but yes the WW is much deeper. During the rookie/FA draft in May there will be veterans worth drafting. Sometimes as early as late 1st early 2nd. Typically more like somewhere in the 2nd though. I would personally argue studs are more important yes. Not that you'd want to read a novel right now but if you got to page 1 there is a lot of discussion about this.
 
Questions regarding FFPC dynasty - the total roster spots seem small compared to the number of starting spots. Much smaller than what I am used to (25 -28 roster spots in start 1 QB). Just trying to understand how that affects FFPC dynasty - are studs more important? Is waiver wire a bigger player than deeper dynasty leagues? FFPC dynasty seems more stable but just want to understand how smaller rosters impact an owner. thanks in advance!
Yeah the cutdown is super steep. We talk about it in here all the time. I suppose there are different schools of thought but yes the WW is much deeper. During the rookie/FA draft in May there will be veterans worth drafting. Sometimes as early as late 1st early 2nd. Typically more like somewhere in the 2nd though. I would personally argue studs are more important yes. Not that you'd want to read a novel right now but if you got to page 1 there is a lot of discussion about this.
What @barackdhouse said. To add a little more…
I’ve said in this and other threads as recently as a couple of days ago that the FFPC format makes me actually “mix“ redraft and dynasty rankings quite a bit. Almost 50/50 honestly. There isn’t lots of room on your roster for a ton of “upside”, “potential” guys if you’re trying to compete this coming season. You can have 4 or 5 at most but the rest need to be startable, Win Now players. If you’re rebuilding then, of course, that can go way up.
you want to consolidate down to fewer studs. In most FFPC trades that get posted, it’s often the side sending more good players for 1 great player that wins the deal, because in FFPC you don’t have to worry about a 30+ player deep roster. It’s just 20 player rosters (and you start 10) plus 3 IR as lots.
I’m sure all of us FFPC players have at one point or another “wished” a worse injury on one of our players hoping they get put on IR just to open up a valuable roster spot to pick up an extra player. (No one get bent out of shape, please, about wishing for any injury. You know what I mean. “Hey playerX, if you’re gonna be hurt a few weeks and miss time, I hope they throw you on short term IR so I can free up a roster spot”)
And, yeah, the waiver wire always has a handful of startable vets at all times (think Marvin and Zay Jones of the world) if you’re in a pinch.

finally, the TE Premium scoring, plus the starting rosters of QRRWWFFTKD I think put enough pressure on teams to field a good roster that it incentivizes trading. I’m not saying that the leagues I’m in have 50 trades a year…but there’s always a half dozen that go down around roster cut down time, and similarly before the seasons begins, and then a few in season trades as well. Another dynasty league I’m in that has similarly short benches but a more flexible roster, QRWWWFKD, (I.e. not TE mandatory) has VERY few trades because, even though the benches are short, the starting line up is flexible enough that you can start 1RB and 4Receivers, or 2 RB and 3Receivers, so most feel they can field a good team without needing to trade to do so.

Edit: fixed tons of typos
 
Questions regarding FFPC dynasty - the total roster spots seem small compared to the number of starting spots. Much smaller than what I am used to (25 -28 roster spots in start 1 QB). Just trying to understand how that affects FFPC dynasty - are studs more important? Is waiver wire a bigger player than deeper dynasty leagues? FFPC dynasty seems more stable but just want to understand how smaller rosters impact an owner. thanks in advance!

Like Joey said, it's definitely a mix of redraft and dynasty. But that works, because if someone's paying $500 or more for buy-in, a multi-year rebuild might not be that appealing. The short benches do give the lesser teams a chance to compete if they can hit with waiver adds. (Over the years, I've been able to add Tyler Lockett, Robert Woods, Tyler Boyd, James White, James Robinson and Geno Smith in the rookie/vet draft or from waivers, and all were every-week starters at some point for me.) But there is definitely a more win-now philosophy for me in FFPC compared with my other dynasty leagues.

I would say that the Triflex format does mitigate the "studs are more important" belief somewhat because there are no kickers/defenses but teams still start 10 players, so depth is good to have.
 
Questions regarding FFPC dynasty - the total roster spots seem small compared to the number of starting spots. Much smaller than what I am used to (25 -28 roster spots in start 1 QB). Just trying to understand how that affects FFPC dynasty - are studs more important? Is waiver wire a bigger player than deeper dynasty leagues? FFPC dynasty seems more stable but just want to understand how smaller rosters impact an owner. thanks in advance!

Like Joey said, it's definitely a mix of redraft and dynasty. But that works, because if someone's paying $500 or more for buy-in, a multi-year rebuild might not be that appealing. The short benches do give the lesser teams a chance to compete if they can hit with waiver adds. (Over the years, I've been able to add Tyler Lockett, Robert Woods, Tyler Boyd, James White, James Robinson and Geno Smith in the rookie/vet draft or from waivers, and all were every-week starters at some point for me.) But there is definitely a more win-now philosophy for me in FFPC compared with my other dynasty leagues.

I would say that the Triflex format does mitigate the "studs are more important" belief somewhat because there are no kickers/defenses but teams still start 10 players, so depth is good to have.
Can’t wait to join a triflex league after the NFL draft with the rest of the folks in our SharkPool league. Right everyone? ;)
 
Folks were wondering earlier in this thread about how FFPC keeps all of its active leagues going with some of the clunker orphan teams they have available. Well, this snippet is from todays email from FFP….

”We still have a number of orphans to list, with new teams being listed and adopted by new owners daily. Most new orphans are at the $77 and $250 entry fees. We do not anticipate finishing orphan sales until the end of April. Therefore, we do not anticipate launching any new startup dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. We may not offer startups for all entry-fee levels this season.

maybe they’re finally at a point where they might have to shut down or combine some leagues. Looking at some of those orphans, I’d want to get 3 years for free to take some on and, even then, the path out of the cellar wouldn’t be complete.
 
Folks were wondering earlier in this thread about how FFPC keeps all of its active leagues going with some of the clunker orphan teams they have available. Well, this snippet is from todays email from FFP….

”We still have a number of orphans to list, with new teams being listed and adopted by new owners daily. Most new orphans are at the $77 and $250 entry fees. We do not anticipate finishing orphan sales until the end of April. Therefore, we do not anticipate launching any new startup dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. We may not offer startups for all entry-fee levels this season.

maybe they’re finally at a point where they might have to shut down or combine some leagues. Looking at some of those orphans, I’d want to get 3 years for free to take some on and, even then, the path out of the cellar wouldn’t be complete.
The rake is big enough they could offer a couple free years for some of these horrendous teams.
 
Folks were wondering earlier in this thread about how FFPC keeps all of its active leagues going with some of the clunker orphan teams they have available. Well, this snippet is from todays email from FFP….

”We still have a number of orphans to list, with new teams being listed and adopted by new owners daily. Most new orphans are at the $77 and $250 entry fees. We do not anticipate finishing orphan sales until the end of April. Therefore, we do not anticipate launching any new startup dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. We may not offer startups for all entry-fee levels this season.

maybe they’re finally at a point where they might have to shut down or combine some leagues. Looking at some of those orphans, I’d want to get 3 years for free to take some on and, even then, the path out of the cellar wouldn’t be complete.

The past couple years, I've done a pre-draft startup. They're really fun, mainly for grabbing rookies and then seeing them get an immediate upgrade/downgrade when they're drafted. But doesn't seem like those are happening this year.

I also wonder if this is the reason for having rookie drafts three weeks later than usual -- FFPC is trying to give maximum time to make sure the there are no open teams left.
 
Folks were wondering earlier in this thread about how FFPC keeps all of its active leagues going with some of the clunker orphan teams they have available. Well, this snippet is from todays email from FFP….

”We still have a number of orphans to list, with new teams being listed and adopted by new owners daily. Most new orphans are at the $77 and $250 entry fees. We do not anticipate finishing orphan sales until the end of April. Therefore, we do not anticipate launching any new startup dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. We may not offer startups for all entry-fee levels this season.

maybe they’re finally at a point where they might have to shut down or combine some leagues. Looking at some of those orphans, I’d want to get 3 years for free to take some on and, even then, the path out of the cellar wouldn’t be complete.

The past couple years, I've done a pre-draft startup. They're really fun, mainly for grabbing rookies and then seeing them get an immediate upgrade/downgrade when they're drafted. But doesn't seem like those are happening this year.

I also wonder if this is the reason for having rookie drafts three weeks later than usual -- FFPC is trying to give maximum time to make sure the there are no open teams left.
Yeah that last point is a good one. Seems like they’re buying themselves some time.
 
Folks were wondering earlier in this thread about how FFPC keeps all of its active leagues going with some of the clunker orphan teams they have available. Well, this snippet is from todays email from FFP….

”We still have a number of orphans to list, with new teams being listed and adopted by new owners daily. Most new orphans are at the $77 and $250 entry fees. We do not anticipate finishing orphan sales until the end of April. Therefore, we do not anticipate launching any new startup dynasty leagues before the NFL draft. We may not offer startups for all entry-fee levels this season.

maybe they’re finally at a point where they might have to shut down or combine some leagues. Looking at some of those orphans, I’d want to get 3 years for free to take some on and, even then, the path out of the cellar wouldn’t be complete.

The past couple years, I've done a pre-draft startup. They're really fun, mainly for grabbing rookies and then seeing them get an immediate upgrade/downgrade when they're drafted. But doesn't seem like those are happening this year.

I also wonder if this is the reason for having rookie drafts three weeks later than usual -- FFPC is trying to give maximum time to make sure the there are no open teams left.
Yeah that last point is a good one. Seems like they’re buying themselves some time.
Email they sent out several weeks ago said the dates for rookie drafts are TBA. The dates listed on the league page is just a placeholder.
 
I got a league with 4 teams listed. Anyone got that much or more?

Makes for a difficult time trying to make trades to trim a roster before cuts.
 
I got a league with 4 teams listed. Anyone got that much or more?

Makes for a difficult time trying to make trades to trim a roster before cuts.
I haven't bothered to look and I have only barely dove into trying to cutdown(on paper) or consolidate in those spots that I need it. But that was one of my original concerns with depot opening up is that there are so many teams listed for sale during the post SB-March31st cutdown period that the market to make trades in a given league can be really thin. I need to get to work though and look for those opportunities. My cuts are mostly clean - there are only a couple spots I need to do some things. I trimmed down from whatever the high water mark was a couple years ago with ~36 dynasties down to 17 now. And trying to sell two dud orphans still but haven't got so much as a nibble on either with dirt low prices. Oh well. I'll keep grinding on those ones. But yeah like everyone else I'm wondering if the FFPC dynasty high water mark has also been reached and how many startups are going to happen or that will make sense for them to open up.
 
I got a league with 4 teams listed. Anyone got that much or more?

Makes for a difficult time trying to make trades to trim a roster before cuts.
I haven't bothered to look and I have only barely dove into trying to cutdown(on paper) or consolidate in those spots that I need it. But that was one of my original concerns with depot opening up is that there are so many teams listed for sale during the post SB-March31st cutdown period that the market to make trades in a given league can be really thin. I need to get to work though and look for those opportunities. My cuts are mostly clean - there are only a couple spots I need to do some things. I trimmed down from whatever the high water mark was a couple years ago with ~36 dynasties down to 17 now. And trying to sell two dud orphans still but haven't got so much as a nibble on either with dirt low prices. Oh well. I'll keep grinding on those ones. But yeah like everyone else I'm wondering if the FFPC dynasty high water mark has also been reached and how many startups are going to happen or that will make sense for them to open up.
I think Depot has hurt their model some. Teams buy back in just to post on Depot. In the past those teams would simply buy back in and not have an option to list for auction elsewhere. People like Myself who looked to buy cheap on the secondary market only used to have FFPC orphans to buy from and so they would be bought up in a reasonable time. Now there is so much buying, posting teams, reposting teams, buying teams already bought back and posted on depot that those true orphaned teams don’t get as many looks…. True ramble I jnow
 
Ok, time to play guess the team and draft pick again. Please feel free to knock the teams and tell us what we did wrong.

This was a draft completed a few days in the $125 BB tourney I was in with @NE_REVIVAL

Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
 
Ok, time to play guess the team and draft pick again. Please feel free to knock the teams and tell us what we did wrong.

This was a draft completed a few days in the $125 BB tourney I was in with @NE_REVIVAL

Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
Team 1 is you and I like it. Little thin at RB, but lots of darts.
Team 2 is NE and needs Stroud to start day 1 until Kyler plays. Good RB/WR though.
 
Ok, time to play guess the team and draft pick again. Please feel free to knock the teams and tell us what we did wrong.

This was a draft completed a few days in the $125 BB tourney I was in with @NE_REVIVAL

Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
Team 1 is you and I like it. Little thin at RB, but lots of darts.
Team 2 is NE and needs Stroud to start day 1 until Kyler plays. Good RB/WR though.
Correct on the teams, liked my previous one a lot more. This one is pretty risky at qb & light at te. However, I am curious on why you think Stroud needs to start day1 over Tua?
 
Ok, time to play guess the team and draft pick again. Please feel free to knock the teams and tell us what we did wrong.

This was a draft completed a few days in the $125 BB tourney I was in with @NE_REVIVAL

Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
Team 1 is you and I like it. Little thin at RB, but lots of darts.
Team 2 is NE and needs Stroud to start day 1 until Kyler plays. Good RB/WR though.
Correct on the teams, liked my previous one a lot more. This one is pretty risky at qb & light at te. However, I am curious on why you think Stroud needs to start day1 over Tua?
I was thinking it was superflex
 
Ok, time to play guess the team and draft pick again. Please feel free to knock the teams and tell us what we did wrong.

This was a draft completed a few days in the $125 BB tourney I was in with @NE_REVIVAL

Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
The top one is Meno but I don't think I've ever seen you go zero-RB before.
 
The top one is Meno but I don't think I've ever seen you go zero-RB before.
It's super rare and it should not be because it's been very successful. Almost won the whole enchilada the very first time I did it (the league I sat Henry and it cost me the FBG) but old habits can be hard to drop and I have hard time laying off RB's sometimes.

I've been trying to do it this year in my few drafts more then ever because I don't think the landscape has ever been more conducive for it.

I was thinking it was superflex
Seriously probably because of my team. As barack said I'm not one to often go zero RB but I've never taken two QB's that early in a one start QB league. This is my third $125BB and ironically NE ended up with my top QB in my previous two, one of which was Tua and the other was Kyler. I felt I was struggling a bit with the new value in one start FFPC. Did I overcorrect? Maybe and truth is I don't take Lamar if I don't have Andrews and think he's most likely to return, and just felt I could get other positions later more then I could get a Lamar.
 
Burrow, Lamar

Aaron Jones, Kamara, Conner, Hunt, Penny, CEH, Chase Brown and Eric Gray

Kupp, Higgins, Burks, R Moore, E Moore, OBJ, Tim Patrick

Andrews, Likely, Kincaid


Tua, Kyler, Stroud

Rhamondre, Najee, Gibbs, Hasty, Duece Vaughn, Joshua Kelley

Lamb, ASB, JSN, DPJ, Marquise Brown, Gallup, Wandale

Schultz, Knox, Bellinger and Musgrave.
I think Meno has the distinct advantage at QB and TE. I like NE's running back corps better at the top but I like Meno's depth there better. Don't know what to think of WR perhaps a wash. WR boards everywhere are just a big giant pile of "IDK what I'm looking at whether it's the top, middle, bottom, left side, right side." You tell me what to make of these WRs.

I think NE needs Tua to play to make this a contest though. And Schultz needs to land and hit.
 
Just going to quickly lament that this offseason I've really not gotten any offers that piqued my interest (not talking sharkpool but across all leagues) even a little bit. And tons that have just been terrible. Seems worse than usual. That's it.
 
Just going to quickly lament that this offseason I've really not gotten any offers that piqued my interest (not talking sharkpool but across all leagues) even a little bit. And tons that have just been terrible. Seems worse than usual. That's it.

I'm not sure if I've gotten more terrible offers than usual, but I've definitely seen a higher rate of "wtf?" trades go through in all my leagues. Seems like this pattern: New owner joins the league; immediately trades high-value young players to seasoned FFPC vet for win-now "name" guys past their prime; decimates team to the point where it's easy to see it will be orphaned next January.
 
Setting the market early once again in the FPC tourney. $1 million winner right here and my first draft of the year for this thing. I know it's FPC 2.0 but nevertheless:

1Brown, A.J.WRPHI
2Waddle, JaylenWRMIA
3Stevenson, RhamondreRBNE
4Samuel, DeeboWRSF
5Engram, EvanTEJAC
6White, RachaadRBTB
7Allgeier, TylerRBATL
8Dotson, JahanWRWAS
9Davis, GabeWRBUF
10Gibson, AntonioRBWAS
11Gesicki, MikeTEFA
12Lance, TreyQBSF
13Mostert, RaheemRBMIA
14Shaheed, RashidWRNO
15Abanikanda, IsraelRBFA
16Rodgers, AaronQBGB
17Everett, GeraldTELAC
18Butker, HarrisonPKKC
19Davis-Price, TyrionRBSF
20Team Defense, LARDFLAR
 
I got a league with 4 teams listed. Anyone got that much or more?

Makes for a difficult time trying to make trades to trim a roster before cuts.
I haven't bothered to look and I have only barely dove into trying to cutdown(on paper) or consolidate in those spots that I need it. But that was one of my original concerns with depot opening up is that there are so many teams listed for sale during the post SB-March31st cutdown period that the market to make trades in a given league can be really thin. I need to get to work though and look for those opportunities. My cuts are mostly clean - there are only a couple spots I need to do some things. I trimmed down from whatever the high water mark was a couple years ago with ~36 dynasties down to 17 now. And trying to sell two dud orphans still but haven't got so much as a nibble on either with dirt low prices. Oh well. I'll keep grinding on those ones. But yeah like everyone else I'm wondering if the FFPC dynasty high water mark has also been reached and how many startups are going to happen or that will make sense for them to open up.
I think Depot has hurt their model some. Teams buy back in just to post on Depot. In the past those teams would simply buy back in and not have an option to list for auction elsewhere. People like Myself who looked to buy cheap on the secondary market only used to have FFPC orphans to buy from and so they would be bought up in a reasonable time. Now there is so much buying, posting teams, reposting teams, buying teams already bought back and posted on depot that those true orphaned teams don’t get as many looks…. True ramble I jnow
I just checked DD and noticed a $250 team for sale for $2750! It's a decent team, but no stud QB, CMC, JT, Chase, Jefferson, or Kelce. It just has a bunch of draft picks. With fees, deposits, etc., I calculated you need to be a top seed and win the title 3 years in a row just to get near breaking even. Seems reasonable. Anyone wanna go in halvsies?
 

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