Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (1 Viewer)

[Yenrub]

Actually it can be proven as the toxicology results for Martin were already released.

I don't think they were.. I think the prosecution blocked a motion by the defense to have those reports released. You have a link for that?

Somewhere many many many pages back if I recall correctly (not sure where in this mess of a thread). It had noted he had traces of marijuana in his system but that's it (and the traces were very minor and more consistant with usage days prior as opposed to the day of).

1.5x the legal limit if you were pulled over, if you consider that "very minor"

Stop - you are literally making stuff up now.

Combined THC's level was 1.5 + 7.3 = 8.8 ng/mlVast majority of states have zero tolerance laws on the booksNevada and Ohio have per se impaired limits of 2 ng/mlPA = 5 ng/mlCO = 5 ng/mlWA is considering 8 ng/mlVideo of Martin setting aside money while in 7-11 for someone to buy him a blunt after the cashier denies him.TOAST!

Between 1.5x and 4x the legal limit of the few states that don't have zero tolerance policies on thc.

I hate to ask about another one of your videos but since I watched it...what am I supposed to be seeing?

I certainly don't see the "whole story" as the video claims

 

[jon_mx]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

 

[timschochet]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted.

One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball.

More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

There will be no riots because Zimmerman is innocent.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Actually it can be proven as the toxicology results for Martin were already released.

I don't think they were.. I think the prosecution blocked a motion by the defense to have those reports released. You have a link for that?

Somewhere many many many pages back if I recall correctly (not sure where in this mess of a thread). It had noted he had traces of marijuana in his system but that's it (and the traces were very minor and more consistant with usage days prior as opposed to the day of).

1.5x the legal limit if you were pulled over, if you consider that "very minor"

Stop - you are literally making stuff up now.

Combined THC's level was 1.5 + 7.3 = 8.8 ng/mlVast majority of states have zero tolerance laws on the booksNevada and Ohio have per se impaired limits of 2 ng/mlPA = 5 ng/mlCO = 5 ng/mlWA is considering 8 ng/mlVideo of Martin setting aside money while in 7-11 for someone to buy him a blunt after the cashier denies him.TOAST!

Between 1.5x and 4x the legal limit of the few states that don't have zero tolerance policies on thc.

I hate to ask about another one of your videos but since I watched it...what am I supposed to be seeing?I certainly don't see the "whole story" as the video claims

Is English a second language for you?

 

[jon_mx]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted. One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball. More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

I'll take riots for 100 Alex. This will be perceived as a major injustice especially in the black community and there will be people up in arms.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

 

[pittstownkiller]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted. One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball. More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

That is an interesting take Tim, that the riots were caused because of a lax police presence; it is nice to know that people will act like animals if there isn't a zookeeper to control them.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

Uhm, he was part of a neighborhood watch program, that is what they do.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

Uhm, he was part of a neighborhood watch program, that is what they do.

HE WASN'T ON DUTY. As the the Zim-defenders keep pointing out.

Furthermore he broke every rule that neighborhood watch has. Hell he wasnt even a certifide member.

He was a wannabe cop Vigilante with a motive.

He was just a DUDE.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

He is the neighborhood watch captain.. That's what they do, watch their neighborhood... It's not outside of the ordinary.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

Uhm, he was part of a neighborhood watch program, that is what they do.

HE WASN'T ON DUTY. As the the Zim-defenders keep pointing out.

Furthermore he broke every rule that neighborhood watch has. Hell he wasnt even a certifide member.

He was a wannabe cop Vigilante with a motive.

He was just a DUDE.

So when it's not the neighborhood watch captain's turn to watch the neighborhood, he should just ignore anything he perceives as suspicious activity?

And if I remember correctly, he was out because his wife sent him to the store..

But by all means continue to spout your imagined nonsense..

 

[jon_mx]

Being a ####### ##### is not illegal. There are no facts which prove what Zimmerman did was illegal.

 

[kentric]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

 

[timschochet]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted. One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball. More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

That is an interesting take Tim, that the riots were caused because of a lax police presence; it is nice to know that people will act like animals if there isn't a zookeeper to control them.

You're the one using the word animal, not me. But I would say that if chaos is encouraged it will grow.

 

[kentric]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Relevance?

Blood Splatter (aka Busted Knuckles) didn't believe me when I posted that Zimmerman stated that Martin was acting strangely like he was on drugs just staring at the houses in the area.

Why is staring at houses when walking home "acting strange"?

According to Zimmerman in his interview with Hannity, he thought it was strange behavior, he said under those weather conditions with the rain his neighbors typically run out to get their mail and back due to the rain. He also said he didn't look like he was out in the rain exercising but rather just slowly walking in between the houses, he took it as suspicious behavior. Hannity asked him if there were overhangs, maybe he did that to stay dry. Zimmerman said the only overhangs were on the front door.

dude...i lived in florida...ive worked in the rain ...ive walked in the rain...it wont hurt you...not everyone runs from warm florida rain. He was on the phone talking to his friend,hes a teenager...jesus nobody in the right frame of mind would even notice trey walking along minding his own business ...nobody but a kook who called the cops over trash and kids playing ...hes a whack job and you defend him like hes your idol...very strange.The reason this case bothered me was it could be any one of us ,walking home and getting profiled by some nosy jackwagon wanna be cop with a gun.

The guy was on the neighborhood watch for a reason. Someone had attempted to break into a neighbor's house and that perpetrator had run through Z's backyard. Seems he was just a concerned citizen worried about his family/friends. Did he go overboard in some of his calls, definately. I don't hold it against him though that he was concerned about someone walking around in the rain and looking suspicious and wearing a hoodie similar to one worn by a prior "criminal".

 

[kentric]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted.

One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball.

More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

I see your point regarding police officers, but don't you think that Z getting off would also suggest to people that the system is flawed in letting a "murderer" go free? Personally, I believe there will be riots if Z get acquitted. And it won't matter whether or not the evidence clearly points to his innoncence or not either. Most people rioting won't know (or likely care) about the details of the trial. I believe most people will use the acquital as an excuse to garner some free "stuff". The people upset about the injustice will be in the minority.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk 1 mile to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Relevance?

Blood Splatter (aka Busted Knuckles) didn't believe me when I posted that Zimmerman stated that Martin was acting strangely like he was on drugs just staring at the houses in the area.

Why is staring at houses when walking home "acting strange"?

According to Zimmerman in his interview with Hannity, he thought it was strange behavior, he said under those weather conditions with the rain his neighbors typically run out to get their mail and back due to the rain. He also said he didn't look like he was out in the rain exercising but rather just slowly walking in between the houses, he took it as suspicious behavior. Hannity asked him if there were overhangs, maybe he did that to stay dry. Zimmerman said the only overhangs were on the front door.

dude...i lived in florida...ive worked in the rain ...ive walked in the rain...it wont hurt you...not everyone runs from warm florida rain. He was on the phone talking to his friend,hes a teenager...jesus nobody in the right frame of mind would even notice trey walking along minding his own business ...nobody but a kook who called the cops over trash and kids playing ...hes a whack job and you defend him like hes your idol...very strange.The reason this case bothered me was it could be any one of us ,walking home and getting profiled by some nosy jackwagon wanna be cop with a gun.

The guy was on the neighborhood watch for a reason. Someone had attempted to break into a neighbor's house and that perpetrator had run through Z's backyard. Seems he was just a concerned citizen worried about his family/friends. Did he go overboard in some of his calls, definately. I don't hold it against him though that he was concerned about someone walking around in the rain and looking suspicious and wearing a hoodie similar to one worn by a prior "criminal".

was the prior criminal wearing shoes...pants...you get my drift. Like i said before,i dont think Zimmy has a criminal bone in his body,but hes still dangerous for different reasons.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

stop

 

[kentric]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

Would take me a couple hours to walk to 7-11 as its 7 miles away. But then, I'm not average. ;-)

 

[kentric]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Relevance?

Blood Splatter (aka Busted Knuckles) didn't believe me when I posted that Zimmerman stated that Martin was acting strangely like he was on drugs just staring at the houses in the area.

Why is staring at houses when walking home "acting strange"?

According to Zimmerman in his interview with Hannity, he thought it was strange behavior, he said under those weather conditions with the rain his neighbors typically run out to get their mail and back due to the rain. He also said he didn't look like he was out in the rain exercising but rather just slowly walking in between the houses, he took it as suspicious behavior. Hannity asked him if there were overhangs, maybe he did that to stay dry. Zimmerman said the only overhangs were on the front door.

dude...i lived in florida...ive worked in the rain ...ive walked in the rain...it wont hurt you...not everyone runs from warm florida rain. He was on the phone talking to his friend,hes a teenager...jesus nobody in the right frame of mind would even notice trey walking along minding his own business ...nobody but a kook who called the cops over trash and kids playing ...hes a whack job and you defend him like hes your idol...very strange.The reason this case bothered me was it could be any one of us ,walking home and getting profiled by some nosy jackwagon wanna be cop with a gun.

The guy was on the neighborhood watch for a reason. Someone had attempted to break into a neighbor's house and that perpetrator had run through Z's backyard. Seems he was just a concerned citizen worried about his family/friends. Did he go overboard in some of his calls, definately. I don't hold it against him though that he was concerned about someone walking around in the rain and looking suspicious and wearing a hoodie similar to one worn by a prior "criminal".

was the prior criminal wearing shoes...pants...you get my drift. Like i said before,i dont think Zimmy has a criminal bone in his body,but hes still dangerous for different reasons.

I agree that he's dangerous. He let what should have been a non-event develop into the killng of a young man. I'm just saying that I can see why he was interested in Martin. In a similar situation, I would probably have tried to keep an eye on the guy too.

 

[timschochet]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted. One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball. More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

I see your point regarding police officers, but don't you think that Z getting off would also suggest to people that the system is flawed in letting a "murderer" go free? Personally, I believe there will be riots if Z get acquitted. And it won't matter whether or not the evidence clearly points to his innoncence or not either. Most people rioting won't know (or likely care) about the details of the trial. I believe most people will use the acquital as an excuse to garner some free "stuff". The people upset about the injustice will be in the minority.

Perhaps I have a little higher opinion of human nature than you do, or perhaps I am more naive. But I can't recall a racial riot ever occurring in this country as a result of an individuals actions rather than the state.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

If white guys on a football forum are this emotionally tied to Martin's story, there will be blood on the streets when the jury fails to convict Zommerman. Personally, I see this as a tragic chain of events and not one to get all emotionally charged up about.

I really don't believe there will be riots if Zimmerman is acquitted. One thing that most people don't understand about the the Rodney King Riots (the last time there was a serious riot in this country after a court case) was that they were unnecessary. The Los Angeles Chief of Police, Darrell Gates, screwed up and didn't get his officers in place in South Central until it was too late. The initial protests could have easily been controlled had he been on the ball. More importantly, those riots occurred because it was police officers that were acquitted, which meant that African-Americans perceived that the system was against them. In this case a private citizen, George Zimmerman, is on trial. Though many blacks consider his actions to be racially motivated, his guilt or innocence will not be a reflection on the question of police authority, as it was with Rodney King. There were no riots after the Bernard Goetz trial, for example.

I see your point regarding police officers, but don't you think that Z getting off would also suggest to people that the system is flawed in letting a "murderer" go free? Personally, I believe there will be riots if Z get acquitted. And it won't matter whether or not the evidence clearly points to his innoncence or not either. Most people rioting won't know (or likely care) about the details of the trial. I believe most people will use the acquital as an excuse to garner some free "stuff". The people upset about the injustice will be in the minority.

Perhaps I have a little higher opinion of human nature than you do, or perhaps I am more naive. But I can't recall a racial riot ever occurring in this country as a result of an individuals actions rather than the state.

i think the King riots were prompted by the fact that the beating was video taped and seen by everyone...it was obvious that those cops were out of control. This case has too many questions and could easily go either way. While its a heated topic its not fueled by racism and police injustice . I think if Zimmy was never arrested and brought to court THEN you would have seen some rioting. He will have his day in court and while the verdict will make some happy and some angry it wont boil over into the streets ...maybe just an isolated incident here and there but nothing bad....IMO

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

stop

I will never stop to allow bullies to get away with using their fists to release their anger whenever they damn well please.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

stop

I will never stop to allow bullies to get away with using their fists to release their anger whenever they damn well please.

Ahhhhh....NOW where getting somewhere....i see whats going on here .

 

[kentric]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

stop

I will never stop to allow bullies to get away with using their fists to release their anger whenever they damn well please.

I'm sorry, which superhero are you again?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

6:23PM Martin buys his skittles and other drug paraphernalia7:09PM Zimmerman calls dispatch46 minutes later...sure was taking a leisurely walk taking in the scenery smoking his blunt in the rain

Just realized that you've been on a fishing expedition all along. Bravo for keeping everyone strung along.

The average person can walk to the 7-11 and back in 46 minutes.Walking slowly in the rain between houses staring inside houses in a gated community which you do not live is some sketchy ### ####.You can blame GZ all you want, but if TM walked like a normal human, bought his Skittles and not start any fights on his way home he'd still be alive.

stop

I will never stop to allow bullies to get away with using their fists to release their anger whenever they damn well please.

Ahhhhh....NOW where getting somewhere....i see whats going on here .

When less intelligent beings such as yourself cannot form a cohesive argument you resort to violence.

 

[Yenrub]

Actually it can be proven as the toxicology results for Martin were already released.

I don't think they were.. I think the prosecution blocked a motion by the defense to have those reports released. You have a link for that?

Somewhere many many many pages back if I recall correctly (not sure where in this mess of a thread). It had noted he had traces of marijuana in his system but that's it (and the traces were very minor and more consistant with usage days prior as opposed to the day of).

1.5x the legal limit if you were pulled over, if you consider that "very minor"

Stop - you are literally making stuff up now.

Combined THC's level was 1.5 + 7.3 = 8.8 ng/mlVast majority of states have zero tolerance laws on the booksNevada and Ohio have per se impaired limits of 2 ng/mlPA = 5 ng/mlCO = 5 ng/mlWA is considering 8 ng/mlVideo of Martin setting aside money while in 7-11 for someone to buy him a blunt after the cashier denies him.TOAST!

Between 1.5x and 4x the legal limit of the few states that don't have zero tolerance policies on thc.

I hate to ask about another one of your videos but since I watched it...what am I supposed to be seeing?I certainly don't see the "whole story" as the video claims

Is English a second language for you?

No it isn’t

Now tell me what this video is supposed to be proving to everyone or what you think this video is proving

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

16 year old, eh?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Fact vs. Fantasy

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Fact vs. Fantasy

OMG this is stuff is great. Love the part where he's reading Trayvon's texts. "Who dat?" Keep posting JoJo. Big fan here.

I like the part where he says Trayvon's mother trademarked two phrases:"I am Trayvon""Justice For Trayvon"

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Fact vs. Fantasy

OMG this is stuff is great. Love the part where he's reading Trayvon's texts. "Who dat?" Keep posting JoJo. Big fan here.

I like the part where he says Trayvon's mother trademarked two phrases:"I am Trayvon""Justice For Trayvon"

OOFF.....the more you post the more im awakened by who and what you are....http://youtu.be/dmtswETayJI

 

[Toad_1234]

Fact vs. Fantasy

OMG this is stuff is great. Love the part where he's reading Trayvon's texts. "Who dat?" Keep posting JoJo. Big fan here.

I like the part where he says Trayvon's mother trademarked two phrases:"I am Trayvon""Justice For Trayvon"

OOFF.....the more you post the more im awakened by who and what you are....http://youtu.be/dmtswETayJI

Overreact much?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Fact vs. Fantasy

OMG this is stuff is great. Love the part where he's reading Trayvon's texts. "Who dat?" Keep posting JoJo. Big fan here.

I like the part where he says Trayvon's mother trademarked two phrases:"I am Trayvon""Justice For Trayvon"

OOFF.....the more you post the more im awakened by who and what you are....http://youtu.be/dmtswETayJI

spoken like a true race baiter

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Blood Splatter is that you?

 

[glock]

Fact vs. Fantasy

Impartiality right there...

Edited to add: that there is one smugassracebaitingmuther####er in that video.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

He is the neighborhood watch captain.. That's what they do, watch their neighborhood... It's not outside of the ordinary.

SELF APPOINTED.

At that rate.,.. you are the KING OF SIAM.

And Jojo is the Queen, obviously.

He was just a guy. A guy who liked carrying a gun and being a vigilante.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Fact vs. Fantasy

Impartiality right there... Edited to add: that there is one smugassracebaitingmuther####er in that video.

He's a race baiter for pointing out race baiters?Ok...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I never knew walking around in the rain high meant I was being suspicious. Good thing I'm white.

Here's the truth. Had it not been Trayvon -- it would have just been someone else. Zimmerman was sitting there with his gun ready for it.

Agreed...it was only a matter of time.

These two comments are just as speculative as anything that you accuse JoJo of.

Dude was (on his off time) sitting in his car alone at nite with a gun watching, following and confronting people. He went out prepared for this, and as such expecting this. It is what it is.

He is the neighborhood watch captain.. That's what they do, watch their neighborhood... It's not outside of the ordinary.

SELF APPOINTED.

At that rate.,.. you are the KING OF SIAM.

And Jojo is the Queen, obviously.

He was just a guy. A guy who liked carrying a gun and being a vigilante.

He was the leader of the neighborhood watch because that's what the neighborhood wanted. He offered himself for the job and no one contested, or offered up an alternative. He was recognized by his neighbors as the leader of their neighborhood watch.

This "self-appointed" nonsense is word play by an anti-zimmerman crowd..

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He offered himself for the job and no one contested, or offered up an alternative

If only they had actually been part of the Neighborhood Watch, then you would have a point. As it was, it was a wannabe cop vigilante.

With no rules or regulations besides his own. He wanted to be a cop. He wanted to be a judge, and played all the parts that nite.

As my original statement was... it would have just been someone else getting "Zimm'd" if it hadnt been Trayvon.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

He offered himself for the job and no one contested, or offered up an alternative

If only they had actually been part of the Neighborhood Watch, then you would have a point. As it was, it was a wannabe cop vigilante.With no rules or regulations besides his own. He wanted to be a cop. He wanted to be a judge, and played all the parts that nite.As my original statement was... it would have just been someone else getting "Zimm'd" if it hadnt been Trayvon.

Once all the evidence to support your fairy tale is shown to the jurors they should have no problem voting him guilty of murder.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

He offered himself for the job and no one contested, or offered up an alternative

If only they had actually been part of the Neighborhood Watch, then you would have a point. As it was, it was a wannabe cop vigilante.

With no rules or regulations besides his own. He wanted to be a cop. He wanted to be a judge, and played all the parts that nite.

As my original statement was... it would have just been someone else getting "Zimm'd" if it hadnt been Trayvon.

Yea, he "Zimm'd" the guy in the previous incident in the neighborhood and helped that single lady, his neighbor..

There were neighborhood watch meetings.. I don't know how you can say there wasn't a neighborhood watch.. Unless you're going to try those acrobats attempted earlier in the thread where they weren't affiliated with the national neighborhood watch program so they were not a neighborhood watch group..

How ridiculous does that sound?.. It's a pretty silly claim..

 

[BigSteelThrill]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said.

The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said.

The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

From what I understand, he was sent out by his wife, to the store. Either on the way out, or on the way back, he saw what he thought was a suspicious person walking around some houses. So he called the police, while on the phone with the dispatcher he continued to watch and answer the dispatchers questions.. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman to watch by asking him what Trayvon was doing.

This "off duty" nonsense is ridiculous as well.. No one is ever off duty in a neighborhood watch program.. Everyone is expected to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and potential criminal activity.. Whether its your turn to walk the neighborhood or not, if you see something suspicious, you call the police.. And you protect your neighbors..

And I'm pretty sure you have no evidence that Zimmerman was the one who confronted Trayvon, and not the other way around..

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said. The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

Murderers always call the cops before doing their cold blooded killing

 

[BustedKnuckles]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said.

The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

From what I understand, he was sent out by his wife, to the store. Either on the way out, or on the way back, he saw what he thought was a suspicious person walking around some houses. So he called the police, while on the phone with the dispatcher he continued to watch and answer the dispatchers questions.. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman to watch by asking him what Trayvon was doing.

This "off duty" nonsense is ridiculous as well.. No one is ever off duty in a neighborhood watch program.. Everyone is expected to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and potential criminal activity.. Whether its your turn to walk the neighborhood or not, if you see something suspicious, you call the police.. And you protect your neighbors..

And I'm pretty sure you have no evidence that Zimmerman was the one who confronted Trayvon, and not the other way around..

If he stayed in his car there would have been NO confrontation...end of story.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said. The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

From what I understand, he was sent out by his wife, to the store. Either on the way out, or on the way back, he saw what he thought was a suspicious person walking around some houses. So he called the police, while on the phone with the dispatcher he continued to watch and answer the dispatchers questions.. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman to watch by asking him what Trayvon was doing. This "off duty" nonsense is ridiculous as well.. No one is ever off duty in a neighborhood watch program.. Everyone is expected to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and potential criminal activity.. Whether its your turn to walk the neighborhood or not, if you see something suspicious, you call the police.. And you protect your neighbors.. And I'm pretty sure you have no evidence that Zimmerman was the one who confronted Trayvon, and not the other way around..

If he stayed in his car there would have been NO confrontation...end of story.

If Martin walked home, there'd be no confrontation, this argument is so tired.

 

[avoiding injuries]

So he was helpful at times. None of that changes by anything you said.

The dude was still sitting in his car with a gun (off duty) at night watching, following and confronting people.

From what I understand, he was sent out by his wife, to the store. Either on the way out, or on the way back, he saw what he thought was a suspicious person walking around some houses. So he called the police, while on the phone with the dispatcher he continued to watch and answer the dispatchers questions.. The dispatcher asked Zimmerman to watch by asking him what Trayvon was doing.

This "off duty" nonsense is ridiculous as well.. No one is ever off duty in a neighborhood watch program.. Everyone is expected to keep an eye out for suspicious behavior and potential criminal activity.. Whether its your turn to walk the neighborhood or not, if you see something suspicious, you call the police.. And you protect your neighbors..

And I'm pretty sure you have no evidence that Zimmerman was the one who confronted Trayvon, and not the other way around..

If he stayed in his car there would have been NO confrontation...end of story.

Getting out of his car isn't a crime. Neither is following someone. When the operator told him not to do that, he supposedly stopped.

Good luck getting a murder conviction on things that could have been done to avoid the situation.