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[Christo]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

Link?

 

[Politician Spock]

so you're suggesting that he's just telling people they should look at things from the AA point of view but he's not doing that himself? I'm confused, but again....I didn't take from his comments what you did. And again, I don't really care what he's saying at this point. I do find the entertaining every time he opens his mouth. What's gotten even better is the increased irony of those talking about prejudice and how others shouldn't be approaching things that way, yet those same people have already determined what Obama said/meant before he spoke the words. So I've got that going for me.

I pointing out that he is pandering to the AA's predudism of Martin as being an appropriate response to the AA's experience and history of being vicitms of predudism.

ETA: Genuine question...do you consider yourself an "activist" against Obama?

I'm an activist against almost anyone with a (D) or an ® after their name. Most everyone who has gotten anywhere in either party has done so because of the support of very corrupt people.

And how much of your latter comment influences the former?

Given I had no issue with Obama's opinions on the Martin/Zimmerman case UNTIL he said what he said on Friday, in this case none. I was intentionally ignoring the whole issue because I felt it was just media driven drama motivated by profit by the media. For him to do what he did on Friday justified the societal prison Zimmerman is going to live in from now on. That's not a political or media issue. It's a #### move, and one a president shouldn't ever do to any citizen.

 

[jon_mx]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

The only thing bizarro is your ability to repeat unsubstantiated claims as if they are fact. Many of the facts you have claimed on this thread you were 100 percent sure of, you later had to eat. It would be one thing if you ate the words once the preponderance of evidence showed you might have your facts wrong, but you wait until the mountain of evidence buries you.

 

[lod01]

1st to post on page 500

 

[timschochet]

Let's get something clear: most blacks in this country assume 3 things about this case:

1. George Zimmerman is a racist.

2. George Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon Martin.

3. George Zimmerman wrongfully killed Trayvon Martin.

It seems pretty clear to me that point #1 is a false assumption, based on faulty information. But I continue to hold that points #2 and #3 are absolutely correct (though not necessarily connected to each other.) These are not prejudicial beliefs; they can be achieved by logical deduction having gone over the facts of this case as we know them (please don't ask me to explain this again- I have done so several times in this thread and won't bore anyone by repeating myself- you're welcome to go back and look over my arguments and accept or not accept them as you choose.)

What's your factual basis for #2?

You seem to have a comprehension problem.

I'm going to keep asking the question until you actually answer it.

And I'm going to keep ignoring you until you finally decide either to give it up or go back and look when I DID answer it, several times, earlier in the thread.

 

[Christo]

1st to post on page 500

Nope

 

[lod01]

here we go. 1st to post on page 500.

 

[Christo]

Let's get something clear: most blacks in this country assume 3 things about this case:

1. George Zimmerman is a racist.

2. George Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon Martin.

3. George Zimmerman wrongfully killed Trayvon Martin.

It seems pretty clear to me that point #1 is a false assumption, based on faulty information. But I continue to hold that points #2 and #3 are absolutely correct (though not necessarily connected to each other.) These are not prejudicial beliefs; they can be achieved by logical deduction having gone over the facts of this case as we know them (please don't ask me to explain this again- I have done so several times in this thread and won't bore anyone by repeating myself- you're welcome to go back and look over my arguments and accept or not accept them as you choose.)

What's your factual basis for #2?

You seem to have a comprehension problem.

I'm going to keep asking the question until you actually answer it.

And I'm going to keep ignoring you until you finally decide either to give it up or go back and look when I DID answer it, several times, earlier in the thread.

You've never provided FACTS.

 

[Christo]

here we go. 1st to post on page 500.

Nope

 

[lod01]

The official 1st post of page 500. Dammit

 

[timschochet]

so you're suggesting that he's just telling people they should look at things from the AA point of view but he's not doing that himself? I'm confused, but again....I didn't take from his comments what you did. And again, I don't really care what he's saying at this point. I do find the entertaining every time he opens his mouth. What's gotten even better is the increased irony of those talking about prejudice and how others shouldn't be approaching things that way, yet those same people have already determined what Obama said/meant before he spoke the words. So I've got that going for me.

I pointing out that he is pandering to the AA's predudism of Martin as being an appropriate response to the AA's experience and history of being vicitms of predudism.

ETA: Genuine question...do you consider yourself an "activist" against Obama?

I'm an activist against almost anyone with a (D) or an ® after their name. Most everyone who has gotten anywhere in either party has done so because of the support of very corrupt people.

And how much of your latter comment influences the former?

Given I had no issue with Obama's opinions on the Martin/Zimmerman case UNTIL he said what he said on Friday, in this case none. I was intentionally ignoring the whole issue because I felt it was just media driven drama motivated by profit by the media. For him to do what he did on Friday justified the societal prison Zimmerman is going to live in from now on. That's not a political or media issue. It's a #### move, and one a president shouldn't ever do to any citizen.

You've discovered the antidote to your NSA fears- if you post enough absurd comments, no way any government agency will ever spy on you. They'll never take you seriously enough.

 

[lod01]

I am on the verge of greatness.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

Ok 1:

Obama was racially profiled as a young black men.

You don't know that.

Talk about bizarro world, Martin's death is treated like a archetype for racial violence and murder in this country, and supposedly the reason that Martin came back and attacked Zimmerman (or whatever happened) is that as a young black man he was supposedly reacting to being pursued by this "crazy-a33 C****", but somehow Obama's experience growing up in wealthy multicultural suburb off the mainland in such situations is more valid or relevant than Zimmerman's growing up in the South????

To show you how stupid this gets, the fact that Obama's father was black makes him more "black" than Zimmerman whose great-grandfather was black. Somehow this racial equation makes Obama's experience more authentic than Zimmerman.

(2)

Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

So the fact that someone has been profiled themselves has no impact on whether they would profile others? I'd say it makes it a lot less likely.

And a young hispanic man being profiled is somehow less impactful than a young black man? Defend that.

 

[lod01]

This should do it. 1st to post on page 500. ####.

 

[jon_mx]

The official 1st post of page 500. Dammit

I am guessing it will be Tim admitting he was just fishing with all this racial profiling stupidity. The greatest fishing haul evah!

 

[timschochet]

Let's get something clear: most blacks in this country assume 3 things about this case:

1. George Zimmerman is a racist.

2. George Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon Martin.

3. George Zimmerman wrongfully killed Trayvon Martin.

It seems pretty clear to me that point #1 is a false assumption, based on faulty information. But I continue to hold that points #2 and #3 are absolutely correct (though not necessarily connected to each other.) These are not prejudicial beliefs; they can be achieved by logical deduction having gone over the facts of this case as we know them (please don't ask me to explain this again- I have done so several times in this thread and won't bore anyone by repeating myself- you're welcome to go back and look over my arguments and accept or not accept them as you choose.)

What's your factual basis for #2?

You seem to have a comprehension problem.

I'm going to keep asking the question until you actually answer it.

And I'm going to keep ignoring you until you finally decide either to give it up or go back and look when I DID answer it, several times, earlier in the thread.

You've never provided FACTS.

And you've never provided proof of your ability to read a full paragraph.

 

[timschochet]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

The only thing bizarro is your ability to repeat unsubstantiated claims as if they are facts. Many of the facts you have claimed on this thread you were 100 percent sure of, you later had to eat. It would be one thing if you ate the words once the preponderance of evidence showed you might have your facts wrong, but you wait until the mountain of evidence buries you.

I'm respectful of your expertise in this subject.

 

[jon_mx]

This is the one. 1st to post on page 500. mother####er.

You are trying too hard.

 

[lod01]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

 

[timschochet]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

Ok 1:

Obama was racially profiled as a young black men.

You don't know that.

Talk about bizarro world, Martin's death is treated like a archetype for racial violence and murder in this country, and supposedly the reason that Martin came back and attacked Zimmerman (or whatever happened) is that as a young black man he was supposedly reacting to being pursued by this "crazy-a33 C****", but somehow Obama's experience growing up in wealthy multicultural suburb off the mainland in such situations is more valid or relevant than Zimmerman's growing up in the South????

To show you how stupid this gets, the fact that Obama's father was black makes him more "black" than Zimmerman whose grandfather was black. Somehow this racial equation makes Obama's experience more authentic than Zimmerman.

(2)

Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

So the fact that someone has been profiled themselves has no impact on whether they would profile others? I'd say it makes it a lot less likely.

And a young hispanic man being profiled is somehow less impactful than a young black man? Defend that.

I'm not going to defend anything of the sort because I didn't do anything of the sort.

You're asking me to prove that Obama was racially profiled as a young man. The far bigger challenge is to find a young black man who has grown up in this country and who was NOT racially profiled at some point. I don't believe you can.

 

[avoiding injuries]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

 

[jon_mx]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

The only thing bizarro is your ability to repeat unsubstantiated claims as if they are facts. Many of the facts you have claimed on this thread you were 100 percent sure of, you later had to eat. It would be one thing if you ate the words once the preponderance of evidence showed you might have your facts wrong, but you wait until the mountain of evidence buries you.

I'm respectful of your expertise in this subject.

I always provide some rationale with associated facts to back up statements. You just state things like Zimmerman is a racist murderer, wrapped around stuff saying you know you can't prove it.

 

[Bogeys]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

tim is the mods <_<

 

[lod01]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

Yeah but tim will be gone.

 

[jon_mx]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

But yet greatest was achieved for one brief moment.

 

[avoiding injuries]

500 Pages!!!!

 

[lod01]

####.

 

[lod01]

500 pages of fecal matter distribution.

 

[jon_mx]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

But yet greatest was achieved for one brief moment.

Really....it was on top of 500 for a minute....

 

[timschochet]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

But yet greatest was achieved for one brief moment.

Really....it was on top of 500 for a minute....

Maybe I can help you out...

 

[jonessed]

So the timschologic is now that we know Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because all young black men are racially profiled?

Are these the missing facts or are these new facts?

 

[lod01]

LOL. I'm on top.

 

[timschochet]

There you go, Iod01. Don't say I never did anything nice for you.

 

[jon_mx]

If I get 1st post on page 500, the mods will ban timschochet for life.

What does it matter? Someone will erase a post somewhere throughout the thread and you're left with a random post being at the top of the page.

But yet greatest was achieved for one brief moment.

Really....it was on top of 500 for a minute....

Maybe I can help you out...

You could put that post on page 400 if you really wanted too.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Obama is absolutely right that he could have been Trayvon at age 16. Those who note the vast differences between Obama and Trayvon are seriously missing the point. They had one thing in common- they were both black youths. And as such, no matter what their background or upbringing or where they live or how they act, they are subject to greater scrutiny, greater suspicion, and more harassment. THAT was the point Obama was making and it is absolutely 100% correct.

But if you reduce it to skin color, ethnic background or "race" then being as Zimmerman was a Latino/Hispanic with black heritage as well and someone with a "darker" skin tone to boot, what the heck is the point of bringing up the profiling at all?

Racial profiling is based on how somebody looks. Zimmerman would not be profiled as a young black man. I don't even know why you would bring it up.

I'm sorry did you just say that a hispanic with some "darkish" skin coloring (sad we're still reduced to this) would not and could not be profiled at all growing up and living in Manassas Virginia and Orlando Florida?

Why are we discussing the profiling of George Zimmerman? I feel like I'm in Bizarro World. Trayvon Martin is the one who was racially profiled. Obama was racially profiled as a young black men. Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

Ok 1:

Obama was racially profiled as a young black men.

You don't know that.

Talk about bizarro world, Martin's death is treated like a archetype for racial violence and murder in this country, and supposedly the reason that Martin came back and attacked Zimmerman (or whatever happened) is that as a young black man he was supposedly reacting to being pursued by this "crazy-a33 C****", but somehow Obama's experience growing up in wealthy multicultural suburb off the mainland in such situations is more valid or relevant than Zimmerman's growing up in the South????

To show you how stupid this gets, the fact that Obama's father was black makes him more "black" than Zimmerman whose grandfather was black. Somehow this racial equation makes Obama's experience more authentic than Zimmerman.

(2)

Young black men get racially profiled all the time, every day of the week. Whatever GZ's background, he's not a young black man.

So the fact that someone has been profiled themselves has no impact on whether they would profile others? I'd say it makes it a lot less likely.

And a young hispanic man being profiled is somehow less impactful than a young black man? Defend that.

I'm not going to defend anything of the sort because I didn't do anything of the sort.

You're asking me to prove that Obama was racially profiled as a young man. The far bigger challenge is to find a young black man who has grown up in this country and who was NOT racially profiled at some point. I don't believe you can.

Yeah, ok, Honolulu is different than the rest of this country, it is more multicultural than any city in America I'd say. If there's any racism there it's against the Japanese and maybe to some extent towards anglo mainlanders whom the Hawaiians resent.

And all I'm saying on the Obama profiling speech is that if being profiled gives some legitimacy or standing to speak on this Martin issue or racial violence, then you can bring Zimmerman into that camp right along with Obama, and maybe ahead of him, because growing up where he did and with his heritage then he has certainly been profiled too.

The whole political folly and the money machine behind it is now hanging on this very profiling thread and the basis for it is absurd at the bottom of it.

 

[lod01]

There you go, Iod01. Don't say I never did anything nice for you.

And just like that it's gone.

 

[timschochet]

So the timschologic is now that we know Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because all young black men are racially profiled?

Are these the missing facts or are these new facts?

No, but thanks for trying anyhow.

 

[jon_mx]

So the timschologic is now that we know Zimmerman racially profiled Martin because all young black men are racially profiled?

Are these the missing facts or are these new facts?

I think the damning fact that Tim is so embarrassed to admit that he basis his conclusion on, is when Zimmerman said 'they always get away." Of course everyone knows that 'they' means black people.

 

[timschochet]

There you go, Iod01. Don't say I never did anything nice for you.

And just like that it's gone.

Somebody else screwed you. Wasn't me this time.

 

[jon_mx]

 

[The Commish]

so you're suggesting that he's just telling people they should look at things from the AA point of view but he's not doing that himself? I'm confused, but again....I didn't take from his comments what you did. And again, I don't really care what he's saying at this point. I do find the entertaining every time he opens his mouth. What's gotten even better is the increased irony of those talking about prejudice and how others shouldn't be approaching things that way, yet those same people have already determined what Obama said/meant before he spoke the words. So I've got that going for me.

I pointing out that he is pandering to the AA's predudism of Martin as being an appropriate response to the AA's experience and history of being vicitms of predudism.

ETA: Genuine question...do you consider yourself an "activist" against Obama?

I'm an activist against almost anyone with a (D) or an ® after their name. Most everyone who has gotten anywhere in either party has done so because of the support of very corrupt people.

And how much of your latter comment influences the former?

Given I had no issue with Obama's opinions on the Martin/Zimmerman case UNTIL he said what he said on Friday, in this case none. I was intentionally ignoring the whole issue because I felt it was just media driven drama motivated by profit by the media. For him to do what he did on Friday justified the societal prison Zimmerman is going to live in from now on. That's not a political or media issue. It's a #### move, and one a president shouldn't ever do to any citizen.

So you had no problem with his comments prior to trial? Really? If this got under your skin this much, I'm not sure how you were remotely close to ok with his statements early on.

 

[Politician Spock]

so you're suggesting that he's just telling people they should look at things from the AA point of view but he's not doing that himself? I'm confused, but again....I didn't take from his comments what you did. And again, I don't really care what he's saying at this point. I do find the entertaining every time he opens his mouth. What's gotten even better is the increased irony of those talking about prejudice and how others shouldn't be approaching things that way, yet those same people have already determined what Obama said/meant before he spoke the words. So I've got that going for me.

I pointing out that he is pandering to the AA's predudism of Martin as being an appropriate response to the AA's experience and history of being vicitms of predudism.

ETA: Genuine question...do you consider yourself an "activist" against Obama?

I'm an activist against almost anyone with a (D) or an ® after their name. Most everyone who has gotten anywhere in either party has done so because of the support of very corrupt people.

And how much of your latter comment influences the former?

Given I had no issue with Obama's opinions on the Martin/Zimmerman case UNTIL he said what he said on Friday, in this case none. I was intentionally ignoring the whole issue because I felt it was just media driven drama motivated by profit by the media. For him to do what he did on Friday justified the societal prison Zimmerman is going to live in from now on. That's not a political or media issue. It's a #### move, and one a president shouldn't ever do to any citizen.

You've discovered the antidote to your NSA fears- if you post enough absurd comments, no way any government agency will ever spy on you. They'll never take you seriously enough.

The NSA put you on ignore years ago.

 

[jon_mx]

The NSA put you on ignore years ago.

In all fairness, what organization has the resources to keep up with the sheer volume of Tim's posting.

 

[5 digit know nothing]

In other news George changes his lastname to Zimmer Man!

 

[Politician Spock]

so you're suggesting that he's just telling people they should look at things from the AA point of view but he's not doing that himself? I'm confused, but again....I didn't take from his comments what you did. And again, I don't really care what he's saying at this point. I do find the entertaining every time he opens his mouth. What's gotten even better is the increased irony of those talking about prejudice and how others shouldn't be approaching things that way, yet those same people have already determined what Obama said/meant before he spoke the words. So I've got that going for me.

I pointing out that he is pandering to the AA's predudism of Martin as being an appropriate response to the AA's experience and history of being vicitms of predudism.

ETA: Genuine question...do you consider yourself an "activist" against Obama?

I'm an activist against almost anyone with a (D) or an ® after their name. Most everyone who has gotten anywhere in either party has done so because of the support of very corrupt people.

And how much of your latter comment influences the former?

Given I had no issue with Obama's opinions on the Martin/Zimmerman case UNTIL he said what he said on Friday, in this case none. I was intentionally ignoring the whole issue because I felt it was just media driven drama motivated by profit by the media. For him to do what he did on Friday justified the societal prison Zimmerman is going to live in from now on. That's not a political or media issue. It's a #### move, and one a president shouldn't ever do to any citizen.

So you had no problem with his comments prior to trial? Really? If this got under your skin this much, I'm not sure how you were remotely close to ok with his statements early on.

None! If you can find a post I made about Martin/Zimmerman prior to the trial, please show it to me. If I did, it was so meaningless to me I don't even recall it. I don't recall ever saying anything about Martin/Zimmerman until last week, and I'm pretty sure it was post-Obama's Friday speech that I made my first comment at all on the subject.

I was "remotely okay" because the whole issue was nothing but a local news story overblown by the national media for the benefit of profit that comes from drama on the news. It was complete non-news story to me. I ignored it just like I ignore my local TV station that makes what happens on "American Idol" into news. It's not news. Whenever I saw Martin/Zimmerman stuff on the news, I changed the channel, just like I do when the news starts covering American Idol. It's a waste of my time.

But for the president to stir the pot post verdict and seal Zimmerman's societal prison is sickening to me. To me THAT is news, given it's something a president should NOT do... EVER!!!!

 

[Slapdash]

The NSA put you on ignore years ago.

In all fairness, what organization has the resources to keep up with the sheer volume of Tim's posting.

Why do you think they are building new data centers?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hell of a guy!

By KYLE HIGHTOWER,
Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — George Zimmerman helped rescue four people from an overturned vehicle last week, just days after he was cleared of all charges in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, officials said Monday.

Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said in a statement that deputies responding to the wreck in Sanford — the Orlando suburb where Martin was shot — found Zimmerman and another man had already helped a couple and their two children out of the flipped SUV. They were not hurt.

The sheriff's office statement said Zimmerman spoke with a deputy at the scene and then left. He did not see the crash happen.

This is believed to be the first time Zimmerman has been seen publicly since his acquittal on a second-degree murder charge in the 17-year-old Martin's February 2012 death. Zimmerman's parents and his attorneys have said in interviews since the verdict that they fear for his safety because of those who may not agree with it.

A message left at the office of Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara was not immediately returned Monday.

The acquittal prompted rallies nationwide in the days afterward calling for a civil rights probe and federal charges against Zimmerman.

It also led to a sit-in at Florida Gov. Rick Scott's office demanding that legislators repeal the state's stand-your-ground self-defense law. The law, passed in 2005, generally eliminated a person's duty to retreat in the face of a serious physical threat. At least 21 states have a self-defense law similar to that in Florida.

Martin's shooting also started debate across the U.S. over racial profiling, self-defense and equal justice. Protesters nationwide lashed out against police in Sanford, as it took 44 days for Zimmerman to be arrested. Many, including Martin's parents, said Zimmerman had racially profiled the unarmed black teen. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

Six anonymous female jurors considered nearly three weeks of often wildly conflicting testimony over who was the aggressor on the rainy night Martin was shot while walking through the gated townhouse community where he was staying and where Zimmerman lived.

 

[Politician Spock]

The NSA put you on ignore years ago.

In all fairness, what organization has the resources to keep up with the sheer volume of Tim's posting.

Why do you think they are building new data centers?

They name their RAID arrarys "timschochet1, timschochet2, timschochet3, etc, etc..."

 

[MaxThreshold]

Hell of a guy!

By KYLE HIGHTOWER,

Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — George Zimmerman helped rescue four people from an overturned vehicle last week, just days after he was cleared of all charges in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, officials said Monday.

Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said in a statement that deputies responding to the wreck in Sanford — the Orlando suburb where Martin was shot — found Zimmerman and another man had already helped a couple and their two children out of the flipped SUV. They were not hurt.

The sheriff's office statement said Zimmerman spoke with a deputy at the scene and then left. He did not see the crash happen.

This is believed to be the first time Zimmerman has been seen publicly since his acquittal on a second-degree murder charge in the 17-year-old Martin's February 2012 death. Zimmerman's parents and his attorneys have said in interviews since the verdict that they fear for his safety because of those who may not agree with it.

A message left at the office of Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara was not immediately returned Monday.

The acquittal prompted rallies nationwide in the days afterward calling for a civil rights probe and federal charges against Zimmerman.

It also led to a sit-in at Florida Gov. Rick Scott's office demanding that legislators repeal the state's stand-your-ground self-defense law. The law, passed in 2005, generally eliminated a person's duty to retreat in the face of a serious physical threat. At least 21 states have a self-defense law similar to that in Florida.

Martin's shooting also started debate across the U.S. over racial profiling, self-defense and equal justice. Protesters nationwide lashed out against police in Sanford, as it took 44 days for Zimmerman to be arrested. Many, including Martin's parents, said Zimmerman had racially profiled the unarmed black teen. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

Six anonymous female jurors considered nearly three weeks of often wildly conflicting testimony over who was the aggressor on the rainy night Martin was shot while walking through the gated townhouse community where he was staying and where Zimmerman lived.

He's just a racist with a heart of gold.

 

[Rayderr]

Hell of a guy!

By KYLE HIGHTOWER,

Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — George Zimmerman helped rescue four people from an overturned vehicle last week, just days after he was cleared of all charges in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, officials said Monday.

Seminole County Sheriff's spokeswoman Kim Cannaday said in a statement that deputies responding to the wreck in Sanford — the Orlando suburb where Martin was shot — found Zimmerman and another man had already helped a couple and their two children out of the flipped SUV. They were not hurt.

The sheriff's office statement said Zimmerman spoke with a deputy at the scene and then left. He did not see the crash happen.

This is believed to be the first time Zimmerman has been seen publicly since his acquittal on a second-degree murder charge in the 17-year-old Martin's February 2012 death. Zimmerman's parents and his attorneys have said in interviews since the verdict that they fear for his safety because of those who may not agree with it.

A message left at the office of Zimmerman attorney Mark O'Mara was not immediately returned Monday.

The acquittal prompted rallies nationwide in the days afterward calling for a civil rights probe and federal charges against Zimmerman.

It also led to a sit-in at Florida Gov. Rick Scott's office demanding that legislators repeal the state's stand-your-ground self-defense law. The law, passed in 2005, generally eliminated a person's duty to retreat in the face of a serious physical threat. At least 21 states have a self-defense law similar to that in Florida.

Martin's shooting also started debate across the U.S. over racial profiling, self-defense and equal justice. Protesters nationwide lashed out against police in Sanford, as it took 44 days for Zimmerman to be arrested. Many, including Martin's parents, said Zimmerman had racially profiled the unarmed black teen. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

Six anonymous female jurors considered nearly three weeks of often wildly conflicting testimony over who was the aggressor on the rainy night Martin was shot while walking through the gated townhouse community where he was staying and where Zimmerman lived.

What's not mentioned is that he rammed 4 cars driven by blacks on his way to rescue that family.