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Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

Apparently after 500 pages some of our players still haven't accepted the fact that a person doesn't have to actually suffer great bodily harm first. It is the belief that you are in danger of suffering great bodily harm that triggers the right to self-defense.
So by this logic anyone who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia would be justified if they killed someone.
Not guilty by reason of insanity.
So just like Zimmerman they will go free to kill again...perfect
Link?
Give it time
ok, how about now?
a little longer...when he gets his gun , cape and mask back and hes out hunting would be criminals again.
His cape and mask were never confiscated.

 
Apparently after 500 pages some of our players still haven't accepted the fact that a person doesn't have to actually suffer great bodily harm first. It is the belief that you are in danger of suffering great bodily harm that triggers the right to self-defense.
So by this logic anyone who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia would be justified if they killed someone.
Not guilty by reason of insanity.
So just like Zimmerman they will go free to kill again...perfect
Link?
Give it time
ok, how about now?
a little longer...when he gets his gun , cape and mask back and hes out hunting would be criminals again.
His cape and mask were never confiscated.
this is true...my bad

 
Rayderr said:
The Commish said:
So emotionally,she found ZImmerman guilty. But logically, she found him not guilty. Glad logic prevailed.
I think it'd be more accurate to say that she found him guilty morally, but innocent legally.
Pretty much....that won't go over well here though.
It must be emotionally hard to sit on a moral pedestal 365 days a year and watch a society of law interact below.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?

 
Apparently after 500 pages some of our players still haven't accepted the fact that a person doesn't have to actually suffer great bodily harm first. It is the belief that you are in danger of suffering great bodily harm that triggers the right to self-defense.
So by this logic anyone who suffers from paranoid schizophrenia would be justified if they killed someone.
Not guilty by reason of insanity.
So just like Zimmerman they will go free to kill again...perfect
Or you could say that Zimmerman will go free to save more lives. Like he already has.
well he DID save his whole community from that dangerous thug Treyvon who`s hands were registered weapons ...who knows what kind of carnage that kid would have done once he concocted that ice tea and skittles drug they call Purple Drank or Lean ...they should have given Zimmy a medal right after he was found innocent.

 
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Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.

 
Rayderr said:
The Commish said:
So emotionally,she found ZImmerman guilty. But logically, she found him not guilty. Glad logic prevailed.
I think it'd be more accurate to say that she found him guilty morally, but innocent legally.
Pretty much....that won't go over well here though.
It must be emotionally hard to sit on a moral pedestal 365 days a year and watch a society of law interact below.
Not any more difficult than sitting on a legal pedestal and watching a society of morality interact below :shrug: What a stupid statement. I've never discounted either side of this issue but there are plenty here who take issue with me bringing up the moral side. Oddly enough, those same folks who are angry with me bringing up the moral side are the same ones completely dismissing the moral part of this. Go figure.

 
Does anyone really believe GZ had his head banged onto the concrete sidewalk 4-6 times or whatever he said it was? I sure as hell don't.
What do you believe caused the injuries to his head?
I'm just saying his injuries are not consistent with what he said happened. Thus, I believe his injuries are related to a regular old fistfight. He had a few scratches on the back of his head.
All the evidence matches up with his head hitting the concrete. If you can come up with a different scenario that matches all of the evidence we know about, you'd be one step ahead of the prosecutors of this case.Not sure why you don't believe it.
He didn't even need stitches man. Do you really believe that if his head was banged into the concrete that is the only extent of his injuries? That should have cracked his skull or at least needing stitches or probably staples. He also would have most likely lost consciousness. He got into a fight with a kid 50 lbs lighter than him and shot and killed him. I dont believe he was ever in fear for his life. At least the evidence didnt show me that he should have been. But whatever, it is what it is.
You can assume that Z was trying to prevent having his head smashed against the concrete and thus limited the damage. Personally, I think the blows from TM pushed Z's head into the concrete (which would be consistent with the "limited" damage). As for Z never fearing for his life, his screams sure suggest he was at least scared ****less. It isn't unreasonable to stretch that into fear for his life.

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
The difference between a minor head injury and a life threatening one is not nearly as large as you seem to think when talking about an unprotected head hitting concrete.

Seriously...let an enraged someone hit your head a couple times against some concrete and see how you feel. If someone is enraged and hits my head hard enough to break skin, I'm going to be scared S735583less and I'm going to use any means at my disposal to end the attack.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
So he listens to a police scanner and volunteers when people need help? What an awful guy.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
So he listens to a police scanner and volunteers when people need help? What an awful guy.
nope ,you missed it again

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
So he listens to a police scanner and volunteers when people need help? What an awful guy.
Well if you think he was doing it to be helpful then I guess my first question would be why he's never done anything like that before to our knowledge. But that's not really the point anyway. It's the thing about the officer tipping him off that's problematic. I hope I don't have to explain why.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
No. i didn't miss the point. I was tossing out counter idiocy to compensate for what was previously posted.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
So he listens to a police scanner and volunteers when people need help? What an awful guy.
nope ,you missed it again
I give that site as much credence as any site that says Obama is nigerian, Bush masterminded 9/11, and we faked the moon landing.

 
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Carolina Hustler said:
BustedKnuckles said:
jon_mx said:
Family Rescued by George Zimmerman Cancels Appearance Fearing 'Blow Back'


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and CHRISTINA NG (@ChristinaNg27)
July 24, 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman when they were trapped in an overturned SUV canceled a scheduled news conference today and is pleading for privacy.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla., about 5:45 p.m.

Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The Gerstles were expected to hold a press conference today at the office of Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara, but cancelled a few hours before it was supposed to take place.

"They have expressed to us that they are not comfortable doing media interviews at this time and they continue to ask for privacy," the Seminole City Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, said the family had asked to speak, but then got concerned about the anger surrounding the controversial verdict.



"The family called because they wanted to address the media. I knew that if we did it in an organized way, it would help them get back to a normal life.. But they called today and said they were more worried about blow back from saying anything that would be favorable to George, and decided they did not want to do any media," O'Mara said.

The lawyer said that when he spoke to the Gerstles "their voices were trembling" and that they feared saying anything positive about Zimmerman "would be toxic."

O'Mara wouldn't say whether Zimmerman is now carrying a weapon since the Department of Justice asked that the gun and other evidence be sent to federal prosecutors who are reviewing the case.

But Zimmerman "should be [armed] given the threats against him," O'Mara said. He added, "If I were him I would leave" the country.

The Gerstles could not be reached for comment.

Zimmerman has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin and his acquittal prompted a flood of negative reactions and dozens of protests across the country. Zimmerman as well as his parents have received death threats.

The Thursday crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said, less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
Actually i read that a cop friend of zimmy`s called him and he rushed over to ''assist'' ...has to be true as i read it on the internet
Now you're just making #### up..
actually IM not..... http://newsball.com/exclusive-pictures-of-the-family-that-george-zimmerman-saved-from-a-burning-car-or-was-it-staged/

UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
So he listens to a police scanner and volunteers when people need help? What an awful guy.
Well if you think he was doing it to be helpful then I guess my first question would be why he's never done anything like that before to our knowledge. But that's not really the point anyway. It's the thing about the officer tipping him off that's problematic. I hope I don't have to explain why.
Is there any proof that his cop buddy was just trying to repair his public image or am I just supposed to take newsballs word for it?

Also, the quote in red seemed to imply that this wasn't the first time he listened to police scanner to be a "superhero". :shrug:

 
So they are real people, with established presences, named in the police report from the car crash incident. However, NewsBall can confirm that NONE of the family members mentioned ANYTHING about a car crash on social media – & this crash happened 5 days ago, but just now being leaked to the media! NONE of their brothers & sisters have mentioned anything online about their siblings crash like “Thank god for my sister & her husband, Sadie & Matthew’s safety“. No mention whatsoever. Strange?
Shocking!!!!!!...adults in a car accident do not update their facebook status. This is unbelievable. Let's get the FBI on this.....

 
Well if you think he was doing it to be helpful then I guess my first question would be why he's never done anything like that before to our knowledge. But that's not really the point anyway. It's the thing about the officer tipping him off that's problematic. I hope I don't have to explain why.
Is there any proof that his cop buddy was just trying to repair his public image or am I just supposed to take newsballs word for it?

Also, the quote in red seemed to imply that this wasn't the first time he listened to police scanner to be a "superhero". :shrug:
I didn't say it's true or not true. I don't have the slightest clue, and neither do you. I said that if you think that the important part of those allegations are that he was listening to a police scanner, you're totally missing the point.

 
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Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
No. i didn't miss the point. I was tossing out counter idiocy to compensate for what was previously posted.
Nah, I'm still pretty sure you missed the point.
UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!

What's to miss? It infers that a P.O. tipped him off because there was a call from this P.O. to GZ. Source says he has a police scanner to provide him notice so he can be a "super hero". Calling the event staged adds cream to the crop. Again, idiotic no matter how you want to view it.

 
Why do NO pictures exist of the car crash! Not from cops, not from media, not from witnesses with their ever handy cell phones & twitter apps ready to tweet away. Why? Did the state really stage this story using a family of 4′s identities to try & portray Zimmerman in a better light so people would not want to kill him & race protests would simmer down?
:lmao: :lmao: ....This is a great source.

 
Well if you think he was doing it to be helpful then I guess my first question would be why he's never done anything like that before to our knowledge. But that's not really the point anyway. It's the thing about the officer tipping him off that's problematic. I hope I don't have to explain why.
Is there any proof that his cop buddy was just trying to repair his public image or am I just supposed to take newsballs word for it?

Also, the quote in red seemed to imply that this wasn't the first time he listened to police scanner to be a "superhero". :shrug:
I didn't say it's true or not true. I don't have the slightest clue, and neither do you. I said that if you think that the important part of those allegations are that he was listening to a police scanner, you're totally missing the point.
Oh, so I missed the point that may or not be true. Okay.

 
So they are real people, with established presences, named in the police report from the car crash incident. However, NewsBall can confirm that NONE of the family members mentioned ANYTHING about a car crash on social media – & this crash happened 5 days ago, but just now being leaked to the media! NONE of their brothers & sisters have mentioned anything online about their siblings crash like “Thank god for my sister & her husband, Sadie & Matthew’s safety“. No mention whatsoever. Strange?
Shocking!!!!!!...adults in a car accident do not update their facebook status. This is unbelievable. Let's get the FBI on this.....
people post what they are cooking for dinner...you dont think a car accident like that one warrants a post or 2 ??? lol....even if they didnt other people would . That wasnt even my point of the comment....i was saying if its on the internet than it has to be true...so many people use what they read as proof when in fact its not...i was being facetious

 
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Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
No. i didn't miss the point. I was tossing out counter idiocy to compensate for what was previously posted.
Nah, I'm still pretty sure you missed the point.
UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!

What's to miss? It infers that a P.O. tipped him off because there was a call from this P.O. to GZ. Source says he has a police scanner to provide him notice so he can be a "super hero". Calling the event staged adds cream to the crop. Again, idiotic no matter how you want to view it.
What's to miss is that you don't seem to understand the huge problem IF (and it's a huge if) local police are engaging in PR work for a man who was just put on trial for murder and exculpated based on evidence that those same police gathered, analyzed and presented.

I have no idea if that story is true or not. Given that nobody else has picked it up, I suspect it's not. But if you can't understand why it would be a big deal if it is true, I don't know what to tell you. It should be obvious.

 
Oh ok. Staged. So the leaking gas was for dramatic affect? Where do people come up with this stuff?
I think you might be missing the point there.
No. i didn't miss the point. I was tossing out counter idiocy to compensate for what was previously posted.
Nah, I'm still pretty sure you missed the point.
UPDATE 7/24/2013: Officer Patrick Rehder phone records show he tipped off George Zimmerman + source says Zimmerman “has a police scanner to listen in to any nasty accidents near him in need of a super hero”.. Accident was real. The rest was staged!

What's to miss? It infers that a P.O. tipped him off because there was a call from this P.O. to GZ. Source says he has a police scanner to provide him notice so he can be a "super hero". Calling the event staged adds cream to the crop. Again, idiotic no matter how you want to view it.
What's to miss is that you don't seem to understand the huge problem IF (and it's a huge if) local police are engaging in PR work for a man who was just put on trial for murder and exculpated based on evidence that those same police gathered, analyzed and presented.

I have no idea if that story is true or not. Given that nobody else has picked it up, I suspect it's not. But if you can't understand why it would be a big deal if it is true, I don't know what to tell you. It should be obvious.
All they allegedly have is a record of a phone call. There is a ton of conclusion jumping from that point. I am a bit surprised you are giving it any weight to this.

 
All they allegedly have is a record of a phone call. There is a ton of conclusion jumping from that point. I am a bit surprised you are giving it any weight to this.
I'm not giving it any real weight, I was correcting the people who seemed to be under the impression that it was a non-story even if it is true. It's a huge story if it is true.

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
Why do you hate the constitution?
 
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The Commish said:
So emotionally,she found ZImmerman guilty. But logically, she found him not guilty. Glad logic prevailed.
I think it'd be more accurate to say that she found him guilty morally, but innocent legally.
Pretty much....that won't go over well here though.
It must be emotionally hard to sit on a moral pedestal 365 days a year and watch a society of law interact below.
Not any more difficult than sitting on a legal pedestal and watching a society of morality interact below :shrug: What a stupid statement. I've never discounted either side of this issue but there are plenty here who take issue with me bringing up the moral side. Oddly enough, those same folks who are angry with me bringing up the moral side are the same ones completely dismissing the moral part of this. Go figure.
Life really sucks up there, don't it.

:violin:

 
All they allegedly have is a record of a phone call. There is a ton of conclusion jumping from that point. I am a bit surprised you are giving it any weight to this.
I'm not giving it any real weight, I was correcting the people who seemed to be under the impression that it was a non-story even if it is true. It's a huge story if it is true.
Being abducted by three-titted aliens is a huge story if true.

 
All they allegedly have is a record of a phone call. There is a ton of conclusion jumping from that point. I am a bit surprised you are giving it any weight to this.
I'm not giving it any real weight, I was correcting the people who seemed to be under the impression that it was a non-story even if it is true. It's a huge story if it is true.
Being abducted by three-titted aliens is a huge story if true.
I find the yeti love child an even bigger story.
 
About as I expected. And people wonder why our society is so screwed up. If only there were no irresponsible MSM :lol:
Fixed. You can laugh all you want, but how did you find out about it? MSM. Sure you say y ou heard about it on your local news, but you're in SC and the shooting took place in Florida. So why was it on the SC local news? Where did they pick up the story from? They got it from their network, which is part of the MSM. Really no different than everytime a pretty white girl goes missing, it becomes national news. People go missing everyday. Why do they choose which ones to make national news? Because they think they can present it in a way that will get them ratings.

The news industry has become very unethical. I say this as a person who used to work in the TV news industry.

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
What was the line his instructor used? He didn't want George shadowboxing for fear that the shadow would win? Yeah, sounds like a guy who could capably fight back.
Also sounds like a guy that should probably let the cops handle it and stay in his car. Unless he wanted to shoot someone...Nah, couldnt be that... LOL

 
All they allegedly have is a record of a phone call. There is a ton of conclusion jumping from that point. I am a bit surprised you are giving it any weight to this.
I'm not giving it any real weight, I was correcting the people who seemed to be under the impression that it was a non-story even if it is true. It's a huge story if it is true.
If it's not true , the original story is still one that is being relatively ignored and smeared. The guy is a hero and an even bigger saint that Dorothy Mantooth.

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
What was the line his instructor used? He didn't want George shadowboxing for fear that the shadow would win? Yeah, sounds like a guy who could capably fight back.
Also sounds like a guy that should probably let the cops handle it and stay in his car. Unless he wanted to shoot someone...Nah, couldnt be that... LOL
When is the trial for this Zimmerman guy?

 
Does anyone really believe GZ had his head banged onto the concrete sidewalk 4-6 times or whatever he said it was? I sure as hell don't.
What do you believe caused the injuries to his head?
I'm just saying his injuries are not consistent with what he said happened. Thus, I believe his injuries are related to a regular old fistfight. He had a few scratches on the back of his head.
All the evidence matches up with his head hitting the concrete. If you can come up with a different scenario that matches all of the evidence we know about, you'd be one step ahead of the prosecutors of this case.Not sure why you don't believe it.
He didn't even need stitches man. Do you really believe that if his head was banged into the concrete that is the only extent of his injuries? That should have cracked his skull or at least needing stitches or probably staples. He also would have most likely lost consciousness. He got into a fight with a kid 50 lbs lighter than him and shot and killed him. I dont believe he was ever in fear for his life. At least the evidence didnt show me that he should have been. But whatever, it is what it is.
You can assume that Z was trying to prevent having his head smashed against the concrete and thus limited the damage. Personally, I think the blows from TM pushed Z's head into the concrete (which would be consistent with the "limited" damage). As for Z never fearing for his life, his screams sure suggest he was at least scared ****less. It isn't unreasonable to stretch that into fear for his life.
So in other words, him being a ##### allows him to kill someone?

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
Why do you hate the constitution?
If you are suggesting that I am against the 2nd ammendment you would be wrong. I will point out, just in case you don't know, that thing was written like 250 years ago. It needs some updating.

 
Does anyone really believe GZ had his head banged onto the concrete sidewalk 4-6 times or whatever he said it was? I sure as hell don't.
What do you believe caused the injuries to his head?
I'm just saying his injuries are not consistent with what he said happened. Thus, I believe his injuries are related to a regular old fistfight. He had a few scratches on the back of his head.
All the evidence matches up with his head hitting the concrete. If you can come up with a different scenario that matches all of the evidence we know about, you'd be one step ahead of the prosecutors of this case.Not sure why you don't believe it.
He didn't even need stitches man. Do you really believe that if his head was banged into the concrete that is the only extent of his injuries? That should have cracked his skull or at least needing stitches or probably staples. He also would have most likely lost consciousness. He got into a fight with a kid 50 lbs lighter than him and shot and killed him. I dont believe he was ever in fear for his life. At least the evidence didnt show me that he should have been. But whatever, it is what it is.
You can assume that Z was trying to prevent having his head smashed against the concrete and thus limited the damage. Personally, I think the blows from TM pushed Z's head into the concrete (which would be consistent with the "limited" damage). As for Z never fearing for his life, his screams sure suggest he was at least scared ****less. It isn't unreasonable to stretch that into fear for his life.
So in other words, him being a ##### allows him to kill someone?
He wasn't being a ##### when he rescued 4 people from a burning car. +3

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
What was the line his instructor used? He didn't want George shadowboxing for fear that the shadow would win? Yeah, sounds like a guy who could capably fight back.
Also sounds like a guy that should probably let the cops handle it and stay in his car. Unless he wanted to shoot someone...Nah, couldnt be that... LOL
I get out of my car in my neighborhood several times a day and I have never shot anybody. :shrug:

 
About as I expected. And people wonder why our society is so screwed up. If only there were no irresponsible MSM :lol:
Fixed. You can laugh all you want, but how did you find out about it? MSM. Sure you say y ou heard about it on your local news, but you're in SC and the shooting took place in Florida. So why was it on the SC local news? Where did they pick up the story from? They got it from their network, which is part of the MSM. Really no different than everytime a pretty white girl goes missing, it becomes national news. People go missing everyday. Why do they choose which ones to make national news? Because they think they can present it in a way that will get them ratings.

The news industry has become very unethical. I say this as a person who used to work in the TV news industry.
I got the story initially from my mother-in-law....about 45 minutes later it was on our local news. That story was (at best) a blurb about a "local Sanford boy who was shot on his way home from a convenience store" At this point you're just screwing around with the semantics of MSM. I didn't consider the blurb or the two paragraph blurb on Orlando Sentinal's page "irresponsible". It was short and to the point. Whether you like or dislike the MSM makes no difference to me. I don't like them and I tend to agree with just about everything you said about MSM. So, when someone gets "outraged" at their reporting, I can't help but laugh because I find it very comical that people will paint them as this brain washing beast to be reckoned with just after saying how terrible they are at what they do. I rank that thought right up there with the people that thought GWB was a complete moron yet was smart enough to pull off the 9/11 attack on his own country and no one was the wiser. Can't compete with that kind of brain power.

 
It's a good thing we have so many board certified doctors checking in letting us know GZ's injuries were not life threatening but just regular 'ole fist fight injuries
See, I'm actually going by the evidence. His head injuries were minor. I'm sorry if you dont understand that.
How many blows to the back of your head would you like someone to hit against a concrete pathway before you'd be concerned about receiving great bodily harm, being knocked unconscious, or being killed?It's idiots like you that think the end justifies the means and if GZ didn't die, then hey what do you know, he must have been wrong fearing for his life or great bodily harm since he survived the battery. :wall:
Im not going to get into a message board fight with you. He couldnt fight back? Then he should have stayed in his car and waited for the cops.
What was the line his instructor used? He didn't want George shadowboxing for fear that the shadow would win? Yeah, sounds like a guy who could capably fight back.
Also sounds like a guy that should probably let the cops handle it and stay in his car. Unless he wanted to shoot someone...Nah, couldnt be that... LOL
I get out of my car in my neighborhood several times a day and I have never shot anybody. :shrug:
How many times after you got out of your car did you find yourself being pummeled MMA style?

 
Does anyone really believe GZ had his head banged onto the concrete sidewalk 4-6 times or whatever he said it was? I sure as hell don't.
What do you believe caused the injuries to his head?
I'm just saying his injuries are not consistent with what he said happened. Thus, I believe his injuries are related to a regular old fistfight. He had a few scratches on the back of his head.
All the evidence matches up with his head hitting the concrete. If you can come up with a different scenario that matches all of the evidence we know about, you'd be one step ahead of the prosecutors of this case.Not sure why you don't believe it.
He didn't even need stitches man. Do you really believe that if his head was banged into the concrete that is the only extent of his injuries? That should have cracked his skull or at least needing stitches or probably staples. He also would have most likely lost consciousness. He got into a fight with a kid 50 lbs lighter than him and shot and killed him. I dont believe he was ever in fear for his life. At least the evidence didnt show me that he should have been. But whatever, it is what it is.
You can assume that Z was trying to prevent having his head smashed against the concrete and thus limited the damage. Personally, I think the blows from TM pushed Z's head into the concrete (which would be consistent with the "limited" damage). As for Z never fearing for his life, his screams sure suggest he was at least scared ****less. It isn't unreasonable to stretch that into fear for his life.
So in other words, him being a ##### allows him to kill someone?
Well, him being a ##### and having the snot beaten out of him does let him get off of a 2nd degree murder and manslaughter charge.

 
About as I expected. And people wonder why our society is so screwed up. If only there were no irresponsible MSM :lol:
Fixed. You can laugh all you want, but how did you find out about it? MSM. Sure you say y ou heard about it on your local news, but you're in SC and the shooting took place in Florida. So why was it on the SC local news? Where did they pick up the story from? They got it from their network, which is part of the MSM. Really no different than everytime a pretty white girl goes missing, it becomes national news. People go missing everyday. Why do they choose which ones to make national news? Because they think they can present it in a way that will get them ratings. The news industry has become very unethical. I say this as a person who used to work in the TV news industry.
I got the story initially from my mother-in-law....about 45 minutes later it was on our local news. That story was (at best) a blurb about a "local Sanford boy who was shot on his way home from a convenience store" At this point you're just screwing around with the semantics of MSM. I didn't consider the blurb or the two paragraph blurb on Orlando Sentinal's page "irresponsible". It was short and to the point. Whether you like or dislike the MSM makes no difference to me. I don't like them and I tend to agree with just about everything you said about MSM. So, when someone gets "outraged" at their reporting, I can't help but laugh because I find it very comical that people will paint them as this brain washing beast to be reckoned with just after saying how terrible they are at what they do. I rank that thought right up there with the people that thought GWB was a complete moron yet was smart enough to pull off the 9/11 attack on his own country and no one was the wiser. Can't compete with that kind of brain power.
Do you think journalists should have been fired for how they portrayed the story to the public?

 

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