I am not sure what is so hard for you to comprehend. Both sides play fear-mongering politics. But if you are going to characterize one-side by its fear-mongers while ignore the ones on your side, it is quite apparent you are not going to engage in a rationale discussion of the issue.
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3C's
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First sentence: my thoughts exactly.
Second sentence: Seriously?! Whoa!
Third sentence: I don't have a side, other than this particular "debate". Lifelong ® voter until they went off the deep end recently.
Mario Kart
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Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
3C's
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VaglnasAlright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
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Mario Kart
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What's the stock symbol on that. My financial advisor wouldn't tell me. She's keeping that insider info to herself.VaglnasAlright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
3C's
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Unfortunately they're privately held instead of publicly traded. Holding out hope for an IPO some day.What's the stock symbol on that. My financial advisor wouldn't tell me. She's keeping that insider info to herself.VaglnasAlright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
Todd Andrews
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lubeAlright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
Rayderr
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Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
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TobiasFunke
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The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
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Rayderr
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No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, despite the numerous political ads stating that __________ supported such a bill or has said so, organizations like politifact have found those claims to be untrue.The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
3C's
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Let me introduce you to the trio running for the top 3 offices in VA.No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, despite the numerous political ads stating that __________ supported such a bill or has said so, organizations like politifact have found those claims to be untrue.The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
Rayderr
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As I said, Politifact has found these claims to be untrue. Restrict <> ban.Let me introduce you to the trio running for the top 3 offices in VA.No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, despite the numerous political ads stating that __________ supported such a bill or has said so, organizations like politifact have found those claims to be untrue.The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
3C's
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Top goal...doesn't mean it's not A goal.As I said, Politifact has found these claims to be untrue. Restrict <> ban.Let me introduce you to the trio running for the top 3 offices in VA.No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, despite the numerous political ads stating that __________ supported such a bill or has said so, organizations like politifact have found those claims to be untrue.The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
Your link says: Schwerin cited various press reports and other materials saying the personhood measure would lead to a ban on all abortions and forms of birth control that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a uterus. But this Truth-O-Meter is not about the consequences of personhood legislation. We are examining whether the GOP ticket has proclaimed that ending abortion and certain types of contraception is its top priority.
Also from your link: "Start with the priorities. Work your way down: life, family, community, world -- a lot of ways to affect the ones at the bottom," Cuccinelli said. "It gets narrower and narrower as you get to the top. None of those other rights matter a whole lot if you don’t get born."
"And that’s where the candidate’s responsibility arises. You give a campaign purpose. My purpose was to fight abortion, to shrink government, to protect life and families," Cuccinelli said.
That establishes once again that one of Cuccinelli’s key reasons for entering politics is to oppose abortion.
Fortunately, the internet has a wayback machine. From the cooch campaign website: Ken opposes abortions that are not for the purpose of saving the mother's life. link
Mr Two Cents
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I had all my weapons and multiple thousand rounds of ammunition prior to Sandy Hook. 
3C's
Footballguy
just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain. For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again.just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
I was trying to read it and wondered how in the holy hell it got to be 512 pages long.
3C's
Footballguy
If you think I'd going to spend more than a few seconds listening to a Canadian speak you're crazy(er than I thought).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
Rayderr
Footballguy
*sigh*. Yes, of course Schwerin points to some loosely based facts to stake his claim on. But let's jump down to Politifact's conclusion.Top goal...doesn't mean it's not A goal.As I said, Politifact has found these claims to be untrue. Restrict <> ban.Let me introduce you to the trio running for the top 3 offices in VA.No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest. In fact, despite the numerous political ads stating that __________ supported such a bill or has said so, organizations like politifact have found those claims to be untrue.The statement that someone "wants to take away your right to choose" has nothing to do with whether they can actually do so. It's accurate and most Republicans would admit it publicly, unlike the statement "____ wants to take away your guns," which is almost never true about whoever _____ may be, or at least they haven't said so publicly. I've never heard a politician say they want to ban guns outright, although I'm sure a few have said it.Abortions. Seriously, almost every political ad from a left candidate or organization would state "[insert GOP candidate] wants to take away a woman's right to choose! Even in cases of rape & incest!!!11!!1! OMG!!!" even when that was not the case. (How the #### is a councilman going to overturn Roe v. Wade?)Alright, since the "republicans" say "Obama is going to take their guns" to get people to buy guns and reap record profits... what is going to happen in a couple of years?
What are the democrats going to say to everyone that the Republicans are going to take away when a Republican gets voted into office? I'm trying to jump the gun here on stocks since I did not invest in the gun manufacturers. So, what can the Democrats promote in order for people to buy up stuff and get stock prices to go up?
Your link says: Schwerin cited various press reports and other materials saying the personhood measure would lead to a ban on all abortions and forms of birth control that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a uterus. But this Truth-O-Meter is not about the consequences of personhood legislation. We are examining whether the GOP ticket has proclaimed that ending abortion and certain types of contraception is its top priority.
Also from your link: "Start with the priorities. Work your way down: life, family, community, world -- a lot of ways to affect the ones at the bottom," Cuccinelli said. "It gets narrower and narrower as you get to the top. None of those other rights matter a whole lot if you don’t get born."
"And that’s where the candidate’s responsibility arises. You give a campaign purpose. My purpose was to fight abortion, to shrink government, to protect life and families," Cuccinelli said.
That establishes once again that one of Cuccinelli’s key reasons for entering politics is to oppose abortion.
Fortunately, the internet has a wayback machine. From the cooch campaign website: Ken opposes abortions that are not for the purpose of saving the mother's life. link
Restrict. Restrict. Restrict. Not ban. Now if you think "Restricting" = banning, then you give credence to the gun nuts who say Obama & the left are going to ban guns because it's no secret the left wants to restrict guns.
So what's it going to be? Republicans want to restrict abortions and Democrats want to restrict guns, or Republicans want to ban abortions and Democrats want to ban guns?
3C's
Footballguy
You said: No, I don't think most republicans would admit to wanting to ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest.
I said: let me introduce you to the trio from Va.
You said: restrict<>ban
I said: Fortunately, the internet has a wayback machine. From the cooch campaign website: Ken opposes abortions that are not for the purpose of saving the mother's life. link
So, it seems you are wrong about Cooch. He wants to ban abortion for everything but the health of the mother. And if the mother is more than 20 weeks, too bad. So your original statement was "ban abortions even in the case of rape and incest." which is exactly what he said he wants to do.
Henry Ford
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3C's
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
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3C's
Footballguy
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Canadian? wtf are you talking about...3C said:If you think I'd going to spend more than a few seconds listening to a Canadian speak you're crazy(er than I thought).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
They exposed how ridiculous Feinsteins proposed bill was, but you'll claim that you haven't watched it to avoid admitting the legislation was ridiculous..
3C's
Footballguy
Where was what's his name, the guy you linked, born? Now, think back to the birthers. Got it?Canadian? wtf are you talking about...3C said:If you think I'd going to spend more than a few seconds listening to a Canadian speak you're crazy(er than I thought).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
They exposed how ridiculous Feinsteins proposed bill was, but you'll claim that you haven't watched it to avoid admitting the legislation was ridiculous..
So . . . is this thread worth going back and reading from the beginning?
3C's
Footballguy
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
wtf does that have to do with feinstein trying to ban guns because they look scary?Where was what's his name, the guy you linked, born? Now, think back to the birthers. Got it?Canadian? wtf are you talking about...3C said:If you think I'd going to spend more than a few seconds listening to a Canadian speak you're crazy(er than I thought).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
They exposed how ridiculous Feinsteins proposed bill was, but you'll claim that you haven't watched it to avoid admitting the legislation was ridiculous..
-fish-
Footballguy
this thread's been an abortion since the beginning.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
3C's
Footballguy
No idea what you're talking about. In this little sidebar you posted some youtube video which I did not watch. Got it?wtf does that have to do with feinstein trying to ban guns because they look scary?Where was what's his name, the guy you linked, born? Now, think back to the birthers. Got it?Canadian? wtf are you talking about...3C said:If you think I'd going to spend more than a few seconds listening to a Canadian speak you're crazy(er than I thought).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6gZU01yF8just trying to keep it going. I'd hate for it to die so soon.Good God, this is an abortion thread now.
They exposed how ridiculous Feinsteins proposed bill was, but you'll claim that you haven't watched it to avoid admitting the legislation was ridiculous..
3C's
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3C's
Footballguy
At least this one is telling the truth.3C said:
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2013/08/of_course_we_want_to_close_all.html
And this one. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/11/miss-gov-targets-last-abortion-clinic-my-goal-of-course-is-to-shut-it-down/
CurlyNight
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So is this now the longest thread evah on the forum?? 
3C's
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The Commish
Footballguy
I answered it
I even bolded it for easy processing this time. Next time you ask, I'll increase the font size to the max to see if that helps.I assume that's the question you are asking me to answer again. If you're wanting me to give opinion on whether or not the people who edited the piece should have been fired, I went back and found the edit and I'll say this. People have done a great deal worse and been fine. It seems like a very arbitrary line that they drew. I don't have a problem with them being fired....NBC can do what they want. But this is coming from someone who understands what the MSM's primary goals are and as a result puts zero stock in anything they say in their pieces.
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jamny
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Print it out, soak in a warm tub with some box wine next to the tub... chilled of course. Before you know it, it will be morning.
BustedKnuckles
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In 10 more posts this thread will self destruct..........
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
This should be fun.
IvanKaramazov
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pantherclub
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pantherclub said:
TobiasFunke
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New story
Zimmerman's actions are probably justified here. After all, both his mother and his father-in-law have well-known associations with violent gun-toting pyschopaths.
(not originally my joke)
