Flying with twin 4 month olds tomorrow. Any advice? (1 Viewer)

[Zigg]

Sat next to a 6 month old for a 5 hour flight and it was no problem. Sometimes flying sucks, suck it up and get over yourself. I'll never understand the whining over kids in a flight.

 

[dparker713]

And really, those that do get bothered? Well they're welcome to charter a flight next time they go somewhere. F-em.

Wow, you're quite a ####. You creating noise pollution is their problem? Do grown adults get a pass if they decide to blare Afternoon Delight all flight long? Most ridiculous parent delusion to come along since babies in bars.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Stay home

 

[Ministry of Pain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc6j5oL9fIw

Bill has some words of wisdom

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Yeah... you can't worry about ##### who think you aren't allowed to visit family/go on vacation/live your life for five years because you have kids. Do what you can to keep them quiet and then forget about it.

 

[fasteddie_21]

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/09/04/polite-parents-give-airplane-passengers-candy-gift-bag

This would be a good start.

 

[El Floppo]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

 

[Jobber]

Ive heard of parents giving their babies a small dose of benadryl so they sleep through the flight

Yeah, bad parents.

 

[DSP]

Ive heard of parents giving their babies a small dose of benadryl so they sleep through the flight

Yeah, bad parents.

Is a little bit of benadryl harmful?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

This. Lot of I HAVE RIGHT TO LET MY KID WAIL AWAY types out there. Some in this thread it seems.

FYI - Top Secret way to get a pass with your kid is to say you're headed to a funeral and had to go.

 

[Wooderson]

My kids are 3 and 18 months. We've flown several times with the 3YO, and a few times with the 18MO. Usually, we get compliments on how well-behaved they are on planes. There have been a couple of exceptions (where they were terrors, basically), but for the most part, you just have to hope for the best (and control what you can control, and try not to worry about what you can't control).

I can't add much that hasn't already been said, but I'll just reiterate a few things. First, yes, you should bring a COPY of the birth certificates. That allows you to bring the child (or, in your case, both children) as a lap child (no ticket purchase required). Just make sure that, once you get your boarding passes, the lap child is notated on both, or you'll have trouble getting through security.

Second, don't overpack. Ok, maybe that's not possible (at least, with my family, it doesn't seem to be). But, at least don't overthink what you need to bring on the plane, in terms of carry-ons. Take whatever you would typically bring on the plane, as a single (or at least without kid) person, and throw it out the window. Not literally. Just bring the essentials. Diapers, wipes, extra change of clothes (for them, and possibly you), a couple of toys, blankets, stuffed animals (or whatever best keeps the kids' attention at their age), etc. Forget the laptop, tablet, or a book to read... You likely won't have time (or space) for it, and if you carry that stuff on, just leave it in the overhead compartment. But, again, the less you have to carry on, the better. You're already going to be carrying the kids, diaper bags, and probably a small cooler (for milk, bottles, etc.). You don't need a backpack full of #### that you won't use, and if you bring too much on the plane, not only will you have no space, you'll be kicking yourself that you did (not to mention more likely to lose and/or forget something on the plane).

Third, take a stroller through security, and gate check it as you board. Much easier to carry all of the aforementioned #### that you'll be bringing, if you can just throw it in/on the stroller. We have an awesome double-stroller (side-by-side seats) that holds our kids, plus lots of space for storage. But, again (and, yes, this is worth repeating a third time), once you check the stroller, you still have to drag/carry everything on board, so keep it to a minimum.

At their age, the best scenario would be to hold off on feeding them (bottle or otherwise) until you are taking off, if that's possible. I'm not saying to starve them for hours before flying, but instead of feeding them before boarding (for example), wait until you're on the plane. Not only will this help their ears, it will likely help put them to sleep. Between drinking, and the vibration (as long as the turbulence isn't too severe) from the plane, they'll be sleepy (hopefully). Bring extra milk (or water if you are using formula)... You can take a cooler through security for that purpose, but be prepared to have them check it thoroughly. Which brings me to my next point....

Give yourself extra time. EVERYTHING will take twice as long with the kids. Ticketing, security, boarding, layovers, etc. The worst feeling possible (in terms of flying) is not only knowing that you're running late and/or potentially going to miss your next leg/flight, it's knowing that you also have 10 million things to remember/carry. So, if you normally need to be at the ticket counter an hour before your flight, give yourself 2.5 hours. Trust me, no matter what, you'll still likely end up pushing it, in terms of time.

I have two more pieces of advice, and these might be most important). Number one, throw some cash (or a debit card) into a pocket (or somewhere) where it is most accessible, so that you can easily grab it while seated. If worse comes to worst, you might need a cocktail or two. It sucks to wish you had a jack-n-coke, screaming baby in arms, and your $$ is all in a bag in the overhead compartment.

Lastly, be considerate of others without letting the rest of the passengers get under your skin. There is always bound to be some ####### moron who wants to spout off about the fact that there are small children on the plane. In most cases, those idiots either never had kids, or forgot what it was like. In either case, that's not your problem. Do what you can to make the flight as enjoyable as possible (for you, for the other passengers, and most importantly, for your kids). Yeah, they will probably cry some (you can't prevent that from happening). Just remember the other things (mentioned above), and the flight will at least be bearable.

Oh, and don't sweat the fact that there are three flights, rather than just 1-2. Depends on the length of each leg, I guess, but in most cases, I have always preferred a multi-leg trip versus non-stop. Sometimes, it helps (with kids) to be able to get off the plane, even if it's just for a few minutes. If they do have a major meltdown, a change of scenery can help (versus having to hold them for another 2-3 hours, when nothing seems to be helping). Just remember to limit what you carry on, so changing planes isn't a disaster.

Good luck.

Thank you so much for writing all of this. I'm going to have my wife read it as well.

 

[dparker713]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

 

[Wooderson]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

They are babies what to you expect from them. You were a baby as well one time.

My problem is the the teen ager or adult they should know better then to act like a punk. I bet I see plenty of them acting a fool.

 

[El Floppo]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

Other kids are my responsibility?

I'll pack more duct tape next time.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Daughter is almost 4, she's flown nearly 20 times. Never once a problem and she's old enough now that it won't be.

Problem is with the parents. Just be all over it like white on rice and everyone will appreciate the effort. 4 months old can't really do much anyway. It's 1 year - 4 years old where you may have trouble with them being loud, crying, distracted talking, etc. After that the kids should be listening at a high level.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Also, 3 flights? We fly non-stop anyway, but with a kid it's a must IMO. A logistical nightmare you've got cooking there.

 

[dparker713]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

They are babies what to you expect from them. You were a baby as well one time.

My problem is the the teen ager or adult they should know better then to act like a punk. I bet I see plenty of them acting a fool.

I expect nothing from babies. From other adults on the other hand I expect some level of civility. So, unless you're a teen mom, you don't get a pass.

 

[dparker713]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

Other kids are my responsibility?

I'll pack more duct tape next time.

Duct tape fixes everything.

 

[DSP]

Is there an airline with an "adult only" policy?

If not it might be a good marketing strategy

 

[El Floppo]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

They are babies what to you expect from them. You were a baby as well one time.

My problem is the the teen ager or adult they should know better then to act like a punk. I bet I see plenty of them acting a fool.

I expect nothing from babies. From other adults on the other hand I expect some level of civility. So, unless you're a teen mom, you don't get a pass.

Teen moms get a pass, but the civil, respectful, decent parent who has to fly with a kid doesn't? Any adult with a crying baby on a plane is not acting with an appropriate level of civility?

Am I reading you right?

 

[dparker713]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

They are babies what to you expect from them. You were a baby as well one time.

My problem is the the teen ager or adult they should know better then to act like a punk. I bet I see plenty of them acting a fool.

I expect nothing from babies. From other adults on the other hand I expect some level of civility. So, unless you're a teen mom, you don't get a pass.

Teen moms get a pass, but the civil, respectful, decent parent who has to fly with a kid doesn't? Any adult with a crying baby on a plane is not acting with an appropriate level of civility?

Am I reading you right?

Unless the child needs emergency surgery, you're using "has to" wrong.

 

[TLEF316]

This sounds so very very bad. Good freaking luck.

 

[Bobcat10]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

 

[dparker713]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

 

[Bobcat10]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

 

[Short Corner]

re crying babies... there are parents who are trying literally everything to help their kids stop crying, and there are parents who give up trying pretty damn early.

the latter have no place bringing their kid anywhere in public, let alone a box stuffed full of people for several hours. the former, and most of the range in between get a pass.

Breaders already get tax breaks that everyone subsidizes, now I'm supposed to give them a pass for noise pollution as well? They're your responsibility so if you choose to travel with them, you deserve whatever scorn is appropriate.

They are babies what to you expect from them. You were a baby as well one time.

My problem is the the teen ager or adult they should know better then to act like a punk. I bet I see plenty of them acting a fool.

I expect nothing from babies. From other adults on the other hand I expect some level of civility. So, unless you're a teen mom, you don't get a pass.

 

[BigJohn]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

 

[dparker713]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

 

[NCCommish]

It's not the crying babies that are the bother really. it's the parents who don't give a #### or think it's cute that are the problem. If I see a parent trying I cut them slack. If I see a slack ### parent making it everyone else's problem? Not so much.

 

[cheese]

I fly with my daughter and I can tell you that 4 months is considerably easier than it's going to be a year from now. With a 4 month old, they sleep almost the whole way and if they do cry, most people understand. With a 1 yr old, they are way more restless wanting to move around and get bored. Also, people seem more openly annoyed about crying once they get older.

My only advice is to not care about anyone in the world besides your group. It will FEEL like everyone there hates you and is judging you, but this is probably worse in your head than it actually is. Worrying about what everyone else thinks gets you nowhere.

Also, they will offer you to board first. My first instinct was to decline because we don't need any special advantages, but don't let your pride get in the way. The extra space getting settled helps and sometimes you can get them to sleep before others even board.

 

[Golden Gopher]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

No, but it's certainly not any less important (my reason for flying versus someone else's). And, more to the point, it's their choice whether or not they want to let a crying baby "negatively impact" them. If their skin is that thin, maybe they should be the ones looking for alternative methods of travel, no?

I posted here to give the OP some suggestions, so I'd rather not get into a pissing match on this subject. But, the idea that people who travel with kids are doing a disservice to the rest of the world is pretty ridiculous. I've been there (before I had kids), so I get it. It's not pleasant to listen to a baby crying, particularly if you're trying to read, sleep, or whatever. But, it's your choice to buy the ticket (knowing full well that there are likely to be kids on board). In all the times I've flown, there have been very few flights where there were literally no kids on board. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say well under 10%. Of course, before I had kids, I probably paid less attention to that. Lately, though, any time we fly, there are several other families on the plane. Most are responsible and trying to do their best to keep the kids under control. But, they all cry from time to time, on a plane or not.

 

[Golden Gopher]

I fly with my daughter and I can tell you that 4 months is considerably easier than it's going to be a year from now. With a 4 month old, they sleep almost the whole way and if they do cry, most people understand. With a 1 yr old, they are way more restless wanting to move around and get bored. Also, people seem more openly annoyed about crying once they get older.

My only advice is to not care about anyone in the world besides your group. It will FEEL like everyone there hates you and is judging you, but this is probably worse in your head than it actually is. Worrying about what everyone else thinks gets you nowhere.

Also, they will offer you to board first. My first instinct was to decline because we don't need any special advantages, but don't let your pride get in the way. The extra space getting settled helps and sometimes you can get them to sleep before others even board.

Not to mention, if you board as early as possible, you're less likely to inconvenience others by dragging your kids (and all of their stuff) through a packed plane (which is bound to piss somebody off).

 

[ChiefD]

This thread cracks me up. People up in everyone's business about your rights as an American when you fly.

Jeez people. The mystery is over. You're riding a bus in the air.

 

[ArbyMelt]

Anyone ever sat in front of a toddler and the parent lets them play with the tray (open/close/open/close.....) the whole flight?

 

[irish eyes]

I fly with my daughter and I can tell you that 4 months is considerably easier than it's going to be a year from now. With a 4 month old, they sleep almost the whole way and if they do cry, most people understand. With a 1 yr old, they are way more restless wanting to move around and get bored. Also, people seem more openly annoyed about crying once they get older.

My only advice is to not care about anyone in the world besides your group. It will FEEL like everyone there hates you and is judging you, but this is probably worse in your head than it actually is. Worrying about what everyone else thinks gets you nowhere.

Also, they will offer you to board first. My first instinct was to decline because we don't need any special advantages, but don't let your pride get in the way. The extra space getting settled helps and sometimes you can get them to sleep before others even board.

And here is the problem with our world today...The statement of don't care about anyone else in the world...UNBELIEVABLE.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Also, if you do. Offer everyone in the vicinity drinks on you.

Or handjobs.

If you bring those kids close to me, I'll expect both.

When I flew with a 4 month old I bought a bunch of chocolate chip cookies and muffins and whatnot from the airport Starbucks and offered them to everyone in our row and the row in front of us and behind us. Definitely recommend this strategy. You might even end up with some friendly mom type helping you out.

So no handies Mr. Prude?

I was more than willing, but nobody asked

 

[glock]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

What makes a jackhole like yourself "privilaged?" Talk about self important.

priv-ilege: a right or benefit that is given to some people and not to others

: a special opportunity to do something that makes you proud

: the advantage that wealthy and powerful people have over other people in a society

: a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor :

prerogative; especially : such a right or immunity attached specifically to a

position or an office

I sure hope you don't carry into movie theaters. Richard.

 

[glock]

I fly with my daughter and I can tell you that 4 months is considerably easier than it's going to be a year from now. With a 4 month old, they sleep almost the whole way and if they do cry, most people understand. With a 1 yr old, they are way more restless wanting to move around and get bored. Also, people seem more openly annoyed about crying once they get older.

My only advice is to not care about anyone in the world besides your group. It will FEEL like everyone there hates you and is judging you, but this is probably worse in your head than it actually is. Worrying about what everyone else thinks gets you nowhere.

Also, they will offer you to board first. My first instinct was to decline because we don't need any special advantages, but don't let your pride get in the way. The extra space getting settled helps and sometimes you can get them to sleep before others even board.

And here is the problem with our world today...The statement of don't care about anyone else in the world...UNBELIEVABLE.

 

[Wrigley]

Good luck today gb......gl

 

[Politician Spock]

Of the top five most painful moments of my life, three involve babies on an airplane.

 

[Jobber]

This thread cracks me up. People up in everyone's business about your rights as an American when you fly.

Jeez people. The mystery is over. You're riding a bus in the air.

This sums it up perfectly.

 

[BigJohn]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

You are are 100% wrong. Not entirely surprising. Choosing my mode of transportation is absolutely my right. You are right about 1 thing. I don't give a flying #### what you, or anybody else thinks. I am not restricting my right to travel the way I choose because your little ###ing feelings might get hurt. Get bent, you piece of ####.

 

[Wooderson]

Flight one done I'll give it. C+

I need beers many many beers tonight.

 

[dparker713]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

You are are 100% wrong. Not entirely surprising. Choosing my mode of transportation is absolutely my right. You are right about 1 thing. I don't give a flying #### what you, or anybody else thinks. I am not restricting my right to travel the way I choose because your little ###ing feelings might get hurt. Get bent, you piece of ####.

Really? Using an airplane is no more your right than is driving a car. Neither are inalienable, self evident, nor protected under the Constitution. The airline can kick you off for any number of reasons and frankly you can land on the no-fly list for no real reason at all. And I full understand that you don't want to be inconvenienced by trying to accommodate others - hence why you're the self-entitled #######.

It's like you just proved my point for me. Thanks.

 

[glock]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

You are are 100% wrong. Not entirely surprising. Choosing my mode of transportation is absolutely my right. You are right about 1 thing. I don't give a flying #### what you, or anybody else thinks. I am not restricting my right to travel the way I choose because your little ###ing feelings might get hurt. Get bent, you piece of ####.

Now- tell us how you reeeally feel.

 

[glock]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

You are are 100% wrong. Not entirely surprising. Choosing my mode of transportation is absolutely my right. You are right about 1 thing. I don't give a flying #### what you, or anybody else thinks. I am not restricting my right to travel the way I choose because your little ###ing feelings might get hurt. Get bent, you piece of ####.

Really? Using an airplane is no more your right than is driving a car. Neither are inalienable, self evident, nor protected under the Constitution. The airline can kick you off for any number of reasons and frankly you can land on the no-fly list for no real reason at all. And I full understand that you don't want to be inconvenienced by trying to accommodate others - hence why you're the self-entitled #######.

It's like you just proved my point for me. Thanks.

Uhm- No.

 

[dparker713]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

What makes a jackhole like yourself "privilaged?" Talk about self important.

priv-ilege: a right or benefit that is given to some people and not to others

: a special opportunity to do something that makes you proud

: the advantage that wealthy and powerful people have over other people in a society

: a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor :

prerogative; especially : such a right or immunity attached specifically to a

position or an office

I sure hope you don't carry into movie theaters. Richard.

The first definition fits just fine. Try looking up a right now.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Buy a bottle of vodka. Dip their pacifiers in it, then give them the pacifiers. Wait for them to fall asleep. Drink the rest.

 

[dparker713]

Three flights is the toughest part (when to change diapers, etc). Don't sweat it though. Hopefully you are on the aisle and don't get a fat ### next to you. I think you want to feed on take off to take any pressure off ears, then they will pass out for a while, but I'm not certain on this. Anyone that complains (SkyMall reader, etc) should think about bringing headphones (or plugs) on their next flight. Amazing the amount of people I see that don't listen to music or a book on a flight.

Talk about blaming the victim. Its like you've got practice from beating your wife.

Something to be said for being prepared. Everyone has the right to fly. My wife wears Everlast around the house.

I went toe-to-toe with a bunch of self-entitled ###holes in another thread about kids on planes, so I'm not crazy about diving headfirst into this one.

Flying is a privilege for Americans, not a right. And in choosing to exercise that privilege while traveling with young children, you've decided that your vacation/family visit/whatever is more important than the likelihood that you will negatively impact 100+ people. So look in the mirror for the self-entitled #######.

No, but it's certainly not any less important (my reason for flying versus someone else's). And, more to the point, it's their choice whether or not they want to let a crying baby "negatively impact" them. If their skin is that thin, maybe they should be the ones looking for alternative methods of travel, no?

I posted here to give the OP some suggestions, so I'd rather not get into a pissing match on this subject. But, the idea that people who travel with kids are doing a disservice to the rest of the world is pretty ridiculous. I've been there (before I had kids), so I get it. It's not pleasant to listen to a baby crying, particularly if you're trying to read, sleep, or whatever. But, it's your choice to buy the ticket (knowing full well that there are likely to be kids on board). In all the times I've flown, there have been very few flights where there were literally no kids on board. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say well under 10%. Of course, before I had kids, I probably paid less attention to that. Lately, though, any time we fly, there are several other families on the plane. Most are responsible and trying to do their best to keep the kids under control. But, they all cry from time to time, on a plane or not.

You're blaming the victim. You know bring a baby on the plane creates an unpleasant environment for others. You just don't care. You also have the choice to not fly, but you've decided your reason for flying with small children is more important that the unpleasant environment you'll potentially create. Take responsibility for your own choices already. Hiding behind the bad behavior of others does not make it any less rude.

 

[matuski]

dparker must be miserable a lot in this life when people don't cater to his preferences in life.

They bought seats on the plane, babies and kids are allowed on planes. You know this going in, tough cookies partner.