For every spoiled greedy athlete... (1 Viewer)

[BustedKnuckles]

theres a guy like Brian Westbrook to look up to with respect.

Brian Westbrook-RB- Eagles May. 4 - 10:38 am et

Brian Westbrook says he has no intentions of asking for a new contract from the Eagles.

How professional. "I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now." Westbrook led the league in yards from scrimmage last year. He is due $3 million in 2008.

 

[redman]

NFL contracts are made to be renegotiated and extended because of the salary cap, so it's not your average contract. While I admire his willingness to sacrifice for the team, let's also be honest and say that he's selling himself short by NFL financial standards because of what I said, and because NFL contracts are not guaranteed.

 

[Raider Nation]

All of his dynasty owners will chip in to give him a $1M bonus for not going into the fetal position at the 1-yard line again.

 

[cutler6]

NFL contracts are made to be renegotiated and extended because of the salary cap, so it's not your average contract. While I admire his willingness to sacrifice for the team, let's also be honest and say that he's selling himself short by NFL financial standards because of what I said, and because NFL contracts are not guaranteed.

Not to mention he will be 30 at the start of next season (2009)

 

[Weiner Dog]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

he says that publicly and may even mean it. But i guarantee you that his agent is trying to make some sort of move or negotiation behind the scenes.

Still to him for not choosing the "i will throw a tantrum like a 2 year old" route

 

[BroadwayG]

Title should be for ever 1,000 spoiled greedy athletes..

 

[redman]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

They're contracts, they're just not guaranteed contracts as to player salary. People who whine about this supposed injustice are ignoring the fact that both sides know how to make the system work for them, the players by getting guaranteed money in the form of bonus, and the owners by prorating that bonus over a number of years to avoid cap problems. I would note that there weren't any NFL players participating in May Day protests a couple of days ago - they're doing just fine, thank you.

 

[GregR_2]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

I've always hated this kind of statement that implies the owners don't have to honor a contract. Within their contracts the players give the teams the ability to terminate the contract in exchange for other gains to the player, like a signing bonus they keep if the team releases them. If they didn't want it that way they didn't have to agree to it. If a player wanted a fully guaranteed contract it is fully within his power to negotiate one.

 

[Slinger]

"I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Would Westbrook say that if he was making the league minimum this year?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

"I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Would Westbrook say that if he was making the league minimum this year?

your missing the point....he had a fantastic year last season and could do what many other guys do....demand more $$$$ NOW instead of playing out his contract as it was written and agreed apon. I`m sure he will get his reward sooner than later from the team...but in the meantime he`s living up to his obligations as he is supposed to do without causing inner turmoil as so many others do.

 

[Slinger]

"I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Would Westbrook say that if he was making the league minimum this year?

your missing the point....he had a fantastic year last season and could do what many other guys do....demand more $$$$ NOW instead of playing out his contract as it was written and agreed apon. I`m sure he will get his reward sooner than later from the team...but in the meantime he`s living up to his obligations as he is supposed to do without causing inner turmoil as so many others do.

The Eagles would let him sit a year if he pulled a TO or Chad Johnson. He's at an advance age for a RB, so while he performed very well last year, he's not going to score a 50 million contract. You don't get paid in the NFL for what you did in the past.If he were to sit out or demand more money I wouldn't blame him, nor would his teammates. It's a business first, game second and everyone on the Eagles squad wants to get theirs. But, like I said, the Eagles wouldn't tolerate it if he became a drama queen, so it's not like he's purposely taking less money "for the team".

 

[BustedKnuckles]

"I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Would Westbrook say that if he was making the league minimum this year?

your missing the point....he had a fantastic year last season and could do what many other guys do....demand more $$$$ NOW instead of playing out his contract as it was written and agreed apon. I`m sure he will get his reward sooner than later from the team...but in the meantime he`s living up to his obligations as he is supposed to do without causing inner turmoil as so many others do.

The Eagles would let him sit a year if he pulled a TO or Chad Johnson. He's at an advance age for a RB, so while he performed very well last year, he's not going to score a 50 million contract. You don't get paid in the NFL for what you did in the past.If he were to sit out or demand more money I wouldn't blame him, nor would his teammates. It's a business first, game second and everyone on the Eagles squad wants to get theirs. But, like I said, the Eagles wouldn't tolerate it if he became a drama queen, so it's not like he's purposely taking less money "for the team".

Who said ANYTHING about ''if'' he was taking less money...now your creating new scenerios. He is simply doing what he is supposed to do...playing out his conract that he signed. Allot of guys in his postition would be holding out or making a huge stink thus disrupting the team istead of Honoring thier contracts.Its unfortunate that one would even half to point this out,but with all the agents and primadona players out there this is refreshing.

Another thing...your WAY underestimating westy`s value on the eagles...he`s the best offensive weapon they have by far.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I got this from an eagles fan forum...

Difference between Westbrook & Lito

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These guys are light years apart when it comes to common sense, check out the quotes from Westy:

"I'm paid," said Westbrook, who led the NFL with 2,104 yards from scrimmage last season. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Westbrook continued to deliver the goods on the topic of player compensation and his personal dealings with the Eagles' front office.

"All players want more money," Westbrook said. "I think the team's job is to not pay all the money that the player wants. I think that's where the conflict comes into play. I think this organization is a very good organization and they try to do things the right way. That doesn't necessarily mean that it always ends up the right way all the time, either."

I guess he doesn't really see them as an evil empire...



At least the eagles fans understand why this is a refreshing move from an elite player

http://igglephans.com/iggboard/showthread.php?t=210720

 

[Sea Bass]

I don't believe that the ratio is 1:1

 

[Our Gang]

If my employer overpaid me $3million on accident and I didn't say anything and then they realized the error and didn't fire me, I would be an ideal employee as well.

 

[SSOG]

If my employer overpaid me $3million on accident and I didn't say anything and then they realized the error and didn't fire me, I would be an ideal employee as well.

Even if you were making $4 million less than other employees of your caliber, tenure, and value to the company?

 

[Moniker]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

I've always hated this kind of statement that implies the owners don't have to honor a contract. Within their contracts the players give the teams the ability to terminate the contract in exchange for other gains to the player, like a signing bonus they keep if the team releases them. If they didn't want it that way they didn't have to agree to it. If a player wanted a fully guaranteed contract it is fully within his power to negotiate one.

lol, good luck with that one...and...

Weiner is correct and here's why:

Larry Fitzgerald was called greedy and "not a team player" before he renegotiated his contract.

Chad Johnson is being called greedy and "not a team player" because he wants to renegotiate his contract.

The teams have the power, not the players. The teams have more marketing at their disposal and can sway the fans more easily.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

"I'm paid," he said. "I signed a contract that was fair at that (time), so there's no sense in me crying about it now."

Would Westbrook say that if he was making the league minimum this year?

your missing the point....he had a fantastic year last season and could do what many other guys do....demand more $$$$ NOW instead of playing out his contract as it was written and agreed apon. I`m sure he will get his reward sooner than later from the team...but in the meantime he`s living up to his obligations as he is supposed to do without causing inner turmoil as so many others do.

The Eagles would let him sit a year if he pulled a TO or Chad Johnson. He's at an advance age for a RB, so while he performed very well last year, he's not going to score a 50 million contract. You don't get paid in the NFL for what you did in the past.If he were to sit out or demand more money I wouldn't blame him, nor would his teammates. It's a business first, game second and everyone on the Eagles squad wants to get theirs. But, like I said, the Eagles wouldn't tolerate it if he became a drama queen, so it's not like he's purposely taking less money "for the team".

Shaun Alexander did

 

[Wu-banger]

If my employer overpaid me $3million on accident and I didn't say anything and then they realized the error and didn't fire me, I would be an ideal employee as well.

"accident"...lol........ i still dont think he repaid them yet either....

 

[GregR_2]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

I've always hated this kind of statement that implies the owners don't have to honor a contract. Within their contracts the players give the teams the ability to terminate the contract in exchange for other gains to the player, like a signing bonus they keep if the team releases them. If they didn't want it that way they didn't have to agree to it. If a player wanted a fully guaranteed contract it is fully within his power to negotiate one.

lol, good luck with that one......

Why the laughter? If the player's priority was for his contract to be fully guaranteed there is nothing stopping him from negotiating it as such. But that isn't the player's priority. His priority is normally to make as much money as possible. To get the concession of a full guarantee the player is going to have to give something up too, and that something is reducing the overall size of the contract.

Again, my point is that both sides agreed to all the parameters of the deal, including that the team can cut him and let him keep the bonus but not get paid the salary. If the player didn't want it that way he had the ability to do it otherwise, but it wasn't his priority to get that for less money.

 

[Sweet Love]

Deals between NFL players and owners/GM's should not be called "contracts". The owner/GM can pull out a lighter and burn it at their discretion.

I've always hated this kind of statement that implies the owners don't have to honor a contract. Within their contracts the players give the teams the ability to terminate the contract in exchange for other gains to the player, like a signing bonus they keep if the team releases them. If they didn't want it that way they didn't have to agree to it. If a player wanted a fully guaranteed contract it is fully within his power to negotiate one.

lol, good luck with that one......

Why the laughter? If the player's priority was for his contract to be fully guaranteed there is nothing stopping him from negotiating it as such. But that isn't the player's priority. His priority is normally to make as much money as possible. To get the concession of a full guarantee the player is going to have to give something up too, and that something is reducing the overall size of the contract.

Again, my point is that both sides agreed to all the parameters of the deal, including that the team can cut him and let him keep the bonus but not get paid the salary. If the player didn't want it that way he had the ability to do it otherwise, but it wasn't his priority to get that for less money.

Didn't Lav Coles just sign a guaranteed contract (I believe 2 years, roughly 11 million dollars). He was not too jazzed about it, but he now knows he has 11 million in his pockey regardless of what happens. In fact, the Jets are the ones that pushed the guaranteed contract.