Frank Gore (1 Viewer)

[hoopvillian]

Hey guys, I didn't see a Gore thread in the last 4 pages. It looks like he's going to play this week.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15645945/niners-harbaugh-expects-gore-ankle-to-play-in-week-4

49ers coach Jim Harbaugh expects running back Frank Gore to play this week at Philadelphia despite a sprained right ankle that limited him in Sunday's win at Cincinnati.

Harbaugh, whose 2-1 Niners lead the NFC West, is game-planning this week as if Gore will start against the Eagles. San Francisco is practicing in Youngstown, Ohio, to avoid a return trip to the West Coast before facing Philadelphia.

"Frank's status, in my mind right now, Frank is good to go," Harbaugh said in a conference call. "We'll plan, we'll scheme and prepare for this game with Frank, along with the rest of the players on this team."

Harbaugh said Gore was walking without a boot Monday and also referred to rookie Kendall Hunter as "the backup tailback" -- leaving little question that Gore remains the guy, for now at least. Hunter ran 7 yards for the game's only touchdown with 3:59 left Sunday.

 

[jimmyd9989]

I'm curious to read what FBG values him going forward. I thought he was spectacular last season but with Alex Smith playing so poorly it's hard for him to remain a value play when teams just stack the box (very similar to teams playing Tennessee or Cleveland). Hopefully he bounces back for the next few games now that he knows he has some heat behind him

 

[cvnpoka]

dont see how they can reasonably assess how his ankle will feel in 6 days

 

[chinawildman]

dont see how they can reasonably assess how his ankle will feel in 6 days

This is partly the reason I think the entire "injury" was just a sham. Harbaugh's way of saving face for Gore being essentially benched. Doubt it coincidence that Hunter started playing alot immediately the series after Gore fumbled deep in niners territory.

 

[RushHour]

It was interesting also to watch Gore's reaction after Hunter's TD run....basically, even though the TD gave his team the win, he was pissed about it (and no doubt still at himself for fumbling). It's possible he sees the writing on the wall.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I'm curious to read what FBG values him going forward. I thought he was spectacular last season but with Alex Smith playing so poorly it's hard for him to remain a value play when teams just stack the box

This wouldnt be the first yr alex smith played poorly. I doubt thats the reason

 

[glumpy]

I'm curious to read what FBG values him going forward. I thought he was spectacular last season but with Alex Smith playing so poorly it's hard for him to remain a value play when teams just stack the box (very similar to teams playing Tennessee or Cleveland). Hopefully he bounces back for the next few games now that he knows he has some heat behind him

Wow--I didn't. Probably you're right in that Alex Smith drags them all down but I drank the koolaid last year and landed Gore, Crabtree and Vernon Davis and my entire season was shot.

 

[zed2283]

I'm curious to read what FBG values him going forward. I thought he was spectacular last season but with Alex Smith playing so poorly it's hard for him to remain a value play when teams just stack the box (very similar to teams playing Tennessee or Cleveland). Hopefully he bounces back for the next few games now that he knows he has some heat behind him

Wow--I didn't. Probably you're right in that Alex Smith drags them all down but I drank the koolaid last year and landed Gore, Crabtree and Vernon Davis and my entire season was shot.

Gore was having an excellent year before getting hurt.

 

[Grahamburn]

dont see how they can reasonably assess how his ankle will feel in 6 days

This is partly the reason I think the entire "injury" was just a sham. Harbaugh's way of saving face for Gore being essentially benched. Doubt it coincidence that Hunter started playing alot immediately the series after Gore fumbled deep in niners territory.

Maybe. Did Hunter play exclusively after the fumble?Gore admittedly hasn't played well so far. We can make o-line and QB excuses all we want, but that's always been the case for him. I think the Eagles might be exactly what Frank needs to get on track.

 

[xfactor99]

Opinion on Gore in Niner fandom is currently mixed. Some people think he's at the age where rb's can suddenly fall off a cliff and that he's done, and others blame the offensive line (somehow worse than the past 6+ years), conservative and uncreative playcalling, and opposing defenses not respecting Smith. Personally I think it's the former, he doesn't look anywhere as quick or agile as he used to, and when Kendall Hunter went in the game the offense suddenly became productive. Would be surprised to see Gore reach 1000 yards after his start so far.

 

[gump]

Opinion on Gore in Niner fandom is currently mixed. Some people think he's at the age where rb's can suddenly fall off a cliff and that he's done, and others blame the offensive line (somehow worse than the past 6+ years), conservative and uncreative playcalling, and opposing defenses not respecting Smith. Personally I think it's the former, he doesn't look anywhere as quick or agile as he used to, and when Kendall Hunter went in the game the offense suddenly became productive. Would be surprised to see Gore reach 1000 yards after his start so far.

As a Gore owner who hasn't seen a game yet, I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around this situation.On this board...its been all over the map. Gore looks terrible....Gore is ok, but the OL is terrible....Hunter is noticeably better....Hunter ran for 2.9 yds/carry....Hunter can't pass block or handle full-time duties....etc.

 

[cvnpoka]

gore has looked bad. so has hunter. gore would have scored on hunters td easily.

 

[theoneandonly]

Opinion on Gore in Niner fandom is currently mixed. Some people think he's at the age where rb's can suddenly fall off a cliff and that he's done, and others blame the offensive line (somehow worse than the past 6+ years), conservative and uncreative playcalling, and opposing defenses not respecting Smith. Personally I think it's the former, he doesn't look anywhere as quick or agile as he used to, and when Kendall Hunter went in the game the offense suddenly became productive. Would be surprised to see Gore reach 1000 yards after his start so far.

Yea it was like a whole new 49ers football team out there when Hunter busted that 11 yd run for a td to finish with 9carrys for 26yds.

 

[chinawildman]

Hunter came in for about 4 plays in a row on the series following the fumble. Gore rotated in and had a few short runs and a pass that doinked off his facemask. After that he was done for the day. For those of you who cite the "poor" 2.9 YPC for hunter, realize that his last 5 carries were all basically dives up the middle deep in Bengals territory to setup field goals / run clock after 2 Dalton interceptions.

dont see how they can reasonably assess how his ankle will feel in 6 days

This is partly the reason I think the entire "injury" was just a sham. Harbaugh's way of saving face for Gore being essentially benched. Doubt it coincidence that Hunter started playing alot immediately the series after Gore fumbled deep in niners territory.

Maybe. Did Hunter play exclusively after the fumble?Gore admittedly hasn't played well so far. We can make o-line and QB excuses all we want, but that's always been the case for him. I think the Eagles might be exactly what Frank needs to get on track.

 

[butcher boy]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

 

[theoneandonly]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

What do you mean hes not playing poorly? Are you saying this because hes completing a high % of passes or something? Hes dinking and dunking not playing like a nfl qb. Hes averaging a whopping 6.8 yds per pass.

 

[butcher boy]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

What do you mean hes not playing poorly? Are you saying this because hes completing a high % of passes or something? Hes dinking and dunking not playing like a nfl qb. Hes averaging a whopping 6.8 yds per pass.

The dinking and dunking is a result of the playcalling. It's not really fair to call out Smith for poor play if that's what he's being given. He's improved his play in that he's not making the boneheaded mistakes he used to. It's relevant to this discussion because in previous years, Gore was able to thrive despite Smith's play. This year so far, Smith's play has actually improved, and yet Gore is struggling. Does not look good for him.

 

[drummer]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

What do you mean hes not playing poorly? Are you saying this because hes completing a high % of passes or something? Hes dinking and dunking not playing like a nfl qb. Hes averaging a whopping 6.8 yds per pass.

Alex Smith has pretty much eradicated what 49er fans used to expect out of a QB. It's happens when you're stuck with him.

 

[theoneandonly]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

What do you mean hes not playing poorly? Are you saying this because hes completing a high % of passes or something? Hes dinking and dunking not playing like a nfl qb. Hes averaging a whopping 6.8 yds per pass.

The dinking and dunking is a result of the playcalling. It's not really fair to call out Smith for poor play if that's what he's being given. He's improved his play in that he's not making the boneheaded mistakes he used to. It's relevant to this discussion because in previous years, Gore was able to thrive despite Smith's play. This year so far, Smith's play has actually improved, and yet Gore is struggling. Does not look good for him.

The playcalling is the only reason hes not turning over the ball and is completing a high% of the passes. If he was airing the ball out he would be getting the turnovers. He just can not throw downfield. Harbaugh was a nfl qb he knows what he has with Smith. A qb who can't do much but dink and dunk. Hes a good athlete he just does not have a strong arm.

The 49ers will not be able run all season if Smith can not air the ball out. The holes are not there. There is just to many defenders playing the box and daring the 49ers to air it out with a qb who can not do it.

 

[Timmay]

I wish i didnt own Gore 1 of 3 leagues, he hasnt looked himself all year. Also though, i hope that Hunter taking some of his snaps and scoring that TD against the bengals lights a fire under him and it will make him run harded, because he isnt going to let some rookie take his starting spot.

 

[FavreCo]

Sure hope he can take his game up a notch this week and get me 3 ypc on 20 carries.

 

[drummer]

Alex Smith is not playing poorly. If opposing teams are stacking the box, its because of the conservative playcalling, not because of QB play.

That said, it really does look like Gore has lost a step at this point. It's not surprising considering he's been playing on 2 reconstructed knees. Dude's a beast but he's going to wear down quicker than your average stud running back.

What do you mean hes not playing poorly? Are you saying this because hes completing a high % of passes or something? Hes dinking and dunking not playing like a nfl qb. Hes averaging a whopping 6.8 yds per pass.

The dinking and dunking is a result of the playcalling. It's not really fair to call out Smith for poor play if that's what he's being given. He's improved his play in that he's not making the boneheaded mistakes he used to. It's relevant to this discussion because in previous years, Gore was able to thrive despite Smith's play. This year so far, Smith's play has actually improved, and yet Gore is struggling. Does not look good for him.

The playcalling is the only reason hes not turning over the ball and is completing a high% of the passes. If he was airing the ball out he would be getting the turnovers. He just can not throw downfield. Harbaugh was a nfl qb he knows what he has with Smith. A qb who can't do much but dink and dunk. Hes a good athlete he just does not have a strong arm.

The 49ers will not be able run all season if Smith can not air the ball out. The holes are not there. There is just to many defenders playing the box and daring the 49ers to air it out with a qb who can not do it.

The irony is defenses were doing that with Shaun Hill 2 years ago, and Jimmy Raye spread the offense out more when Hill was benched for Smith. Smith was more productive when the 49ers ran more of a "Fire Drill" offense however,being down a few scores, and the receivers running more straight line routes. Carlos Rogers brought up the running game on KNBR, saying that the ground game needs to open it up for Smith to throw more downfield. The run game has to be established for a QB as limited as Smith. But the offensive line has been playing horrid. Solari hasn't been able to fix it, and I don't think McKittirck could have done much with this line either. I think by either injury or by limited play from Smith, the 49ers will have a starting QB change later this season. I also feel that Gore won't play a full 16 either as starter. Harbaugh is being conservative because he doesn't have much talent on the shelf, and despite the NFCW being wide open, this is still a rebuilding year for the 49ers. They've been rebuilding this team since 2004, while being dumb with the QB position, as well as the WR position. The only true strength they have on offense is the run game, which has been real good despite whoever was at QB.

 

[BaBastage]

The playcalling is the only reason hes not turning over the ball and is completing a high% of the passes. If he was airing the ball out he would be getting the turnovers. He just can not throw downfield. Harbaugh was a nfl qb he knows what he has with Smith. A qb who can't do much but dink and dunk. Hes a good athlete he just does not have a strong arm.The 49ers will not be able run all season if Smith can not air the ball out. The holes are not there. There is just to many defenders playing the box and daring the 49ers to air it out with a qb who can not do it.

I'll agree with most of this, but Smith doesn't exactly have a lot of WR talent around him outside of Davis.But the Smith debate has been hashed to death. It doesn't matter if he was never NFL Caliber, or if the lack of consistent coaching killed a promising young QB talent. I don't think anyone believes that Smith will be the starter next year.At this point, Harbaugh had few options given the holdout last summer. Smith was the best of a bunch of crappy options.

 

[strong]

gore does look a little sluggish this year. shark pool seems to think he's an okay RB2 at best.

sorry if this is this is too much subscriber info, but how can Dodd's and Co. have him rated so high going forward? he's several slots ahead of another high drafted rb who held out and has been underwhelming the first three games.

 

[xfactor99]

This offense makes me wish for the Jimmy Raye offense of the second half of 2009. Believe it or not that was an average to above average NFL offense where Smith threw the ball downfield and Gore racked up touchdowns by the game.

 

[thecatch]

This offense makes me wish for the Jimmy Raye offense of the second half of 2009. Believe it or not that was an average to above average NFL offense where Smith threw the ball downfield and Gore racked up touchdowns by the game.

The only downfield throws Smith made under Raye were those seam routes to VD. Defenses have caught on and are doubling Davis consistently on those routes now.