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Fred Jackson & C.J. Spiller, RBs, Buffalo Bills (1 Viewer)

What are Fred Jackson owners doing with him, considering Spiller's emergence? Is he even worth keeping around? Not saying cutting him for the sake of it, but what level FA would it take to get you to drop him?
I'm holding but not really expecting much with Spiller looking so good. Best case is Jackson is back to 50/50 which I find hard to believe with the play of Spiller - I would deal him to the Spiller owner if I could but probably will just hold & hope for the best..
 
What are Fred Jackson owners doing with him, considering Spiller's emergence? Is he even worth keeping around? Not saying cutting him for the sake of it, but what level FA would it take to get you to drop him?
I'm holding but not really expecting much with Spiller looking so good. Best case is Jackson is back to 50/50 which I find hard to believe with the play of Spiller - I would deal him to the Spiller owner if I could but probably will just hold & hope for the best..
Yeah, I tried dealing him to the Spiller owner and got laughed at. Hadn't even discussed compensation yet. So at this point I'm just holding him for the micro-slim chance that Gailey decides to stay loyal to his veteran and makes Jackson the #1 again. Taking that and shoving it in the Spiller owner's face is about the only potential satisfaction I have left on the season.
 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.

Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.

It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.

 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.
Exactly. Way too premature to assume Spiller is going to rack up historic numbers over 16 games. When both are healthy he certainly looks to get the most touches now, but like every other team with two proven backs, the Bills will try and limit the punishment he takes and rotate. Buffalo looks great running the ball so even in a time share Jackson can provide some production, and if Spiller goes down you have the stud you thought you drafted to begin with.Jackson has plenty of value.
 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.

Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.

It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.
I'm not so sure about that. He's been fantastic running between the tackles so far this year. Some of his biggest runs have come when he waited for the hole to develop inside, cut it back to hit the hole, and then broke tackles to hit the open field. I've been incredibly impressed with how patient he has been and how well he's read the inside plays.
 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.

Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.

It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.
I'm not so sure about that. He's been fantastic running between the tackles so far this year. Some of his biggest runs have come when he waited for the hole to develop inside, cut it back to hit the hole, and then broke tackles to hit the open field. I've been incredibly impressed with how patient he has been and how well he's read the inside plays.
he's hitting the holes hard and barely being touched, which springs him into the second level and then he's using his quickness to make guys miss. he's also breaking some tackles in the open field. But I haven't really seen him run with power and gain a few extra yards when he's met at or around the line. He doesn't have to be great at it and it's obviously not going to play to his strengths, but I'd like to see him develop a bit more in that regard.he's been very decisive, which is helping him a lot. he sees a hole and explodes through it. very little dancing behind the line of scrimmage and the guys up front are creating some nice gaps for him to hit with a full head of steam.

 
Fred Jackson has been running some individual drills with the RBs. It's increasingly possible that he'll be back next week against the Patriots.

www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/9/21/3367482/buffalo-bills-fred-jackson-injury-update-cj-spiller

 
Fred Jackson has been running some individual drills with the RBs. It's increasingly possible that he'll be back next week against the Patriots. www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/9/21/3367482/buffalo-bills-fred-jackson-injury-update-cj-spiller
I just wonder if Freddy is pushing to get back on the field because he sees Spiller blowing up without him in there. It may lead to a more serious injury if he comes back too quickly.
 
Fred Jackson has been running some individual drills with the RBs. It's increasingly possible that he'll be back next week against the Patriots. www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/9/21/3367482/buffalo-bills-fred-jackson-injury-update-cj-spiller
I just wonder if Freddy is pushing to get back on the field because he sees Spiller blowing up without him in there. It may lead to a more serious injury if he comes back too quickly.
:shrug: I assume this is all under doctor supervision.
 
Joe Buscaglia (@JoeBuscaglia) tweeted at 11:43 AM on Fri, Sep 21, 2012:

Saw Fred Jackson doing some change of direction & agility drills on the way in from practice. He was moving pretty well on the knee. #Bills

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What are Fred Jackson owners doing with him, considering Spiller's emergence? Is he even worth keeping around? Not saying cutting him for the sake of it, but what level FA would it take to get you to drop him?
I wouldnt go dropping Fred Jackson just yet.Spiller put up great numbers against the Jets when the game was mostly out of hand. then he put up great numbers against what many consider to be a weak run defense.Dont get me wrong. I'm as high on Spiller as the next guy, but what really scares me is that Buffalo seems quite committed to Jackson. Spiller lit it up late last season and they still gave the starting job to Jackson at the start of this season. To me this speaks volumes to what is going on in the minds of either the coach, the GM, or both.It is possible Spiller may have earned himself the starting job, but I would not count on this yet.I'd still classify him as a fantasy stud in waiting. He will show them what he got, and they will make Jackson the starter when he returns, but in my opinion, there is an equal chance it will be a RBBC.The chances of them giving the starting role to Spiller outright is low. I'd say around 20 or 30%
 
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Fred Jackson has been running some individual drills with the RBs. It's increasingly possible that he'll be back next week against the Patriots. www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/9/21/3367482/buffalo-bills-fred-jackson-injury-update-cj-spiller
I just wonder if Freddy is pushing to get back on the field because he sees Spiller blowing up without him in there. It may lead to a more serious injury if he comes back too quickly.
Take it from a guy whose had multiple knee injuries and three surgeries. If he's "pushing it", his knee will tell him via pain and swelling.
 
Spiller lit it up late last season and they still gave the starting job to Jackson at the start of this season.
This seems to minimize what Fred Jackson did last year in the feature back role. He was better than Spiller, and the team won with him in the lineup.Once Jackson went out, the offense wasn't nearly as good as it was with him in the lineup. Most people blamed Fitz for that, and rightfully so, but I think losing Jackson hurt them a lot.
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This is what Spiller did as a runner late last year. The only game they won in that stretch was a week 16 home blowout win over the Broncos when Tebow completely imploded. Spiller wasn't tearing it up then like he is now. Even as the clear feature RB, he was usually getting less than 15 rush attempts/game. I think his performance the last two weeks will definitely make it tough for the team to go back to Jackson as the clear lead back anytime soon, but Jackson should still be a good complement and I think there's enough touches for Spiller to remain very productive. It's more likely they will get both guys involved, but probably not for a few weeks until they are sure that Jackson is ready to handle a decent workload.
 
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Fred Jackson (knee) has "a chance" to return in Week 4 against the Patriots.The Bills' original timetable had Jackson missing three to eight weeks, so this is further confirmation that he's progressing ahead of schedule. Jackson won't be returning to a full-time role with C.J. Spiller leading the NFL in rushing, but we'd expect him to be featured in all short-yardage and red-zone situations.
 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.

Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.

It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.
See, some Spiller fans get angry when I say this. But I think it's more than an opportunity, I think it's likely. Look, I love watching Spiller play. I think he's a singular talent. But sometimes fans get caught up with one guy, when in fact, two guys make the team more dangerous. And I think it's completely reasonable to conclude that given how good this offensive line is blocking, a 50/50 split will make for very high RB2 numbers for both players.

 
Spiller is killing it right now, but there's still an opportunity for Jackson to make this a true RBBC situation if he's fully healthy. It might be awhile before we see him healthy, but there's obviously a chance that Spiller could go down with an injury and then if Jackson is back, he could be a stud again.

Spiller is a great big-play back and when he's hitting like this it doesn't matter, but he still needs to improve as an all-around back in terms of pass protection and running with power inside, etc.

It would take a pretty good quality FA for me to consider dumping Fred. It's a long year and he could still pay off around the fantasy postseason.
See, some Spiller fans get angry when I say this. But I think it's more than an opportunity, I think it's likely. Look, I love watching Spiller play. I think he's a singular talent. But sometimes fans get caught up with one guy, when in fact, two guys make the team more dangerous. And I think it's completely reasonable to conclude that given how good this offensive line is blocking, a 50/50 split will make for very high RB2 numbers for both players.
I've been thinking about selling, I keep going back and forth. I have a good stable of RBs and if he's going to be a RB2 (which I also agree with if Jackson comes back), someone would have to knock my socks off with an offer for Spiller and so far that's not even close to happening.
 
Remember that famous late-season game in the Meadowlands where Emmitt got tackled and slammed down onto his shoulder by the Giants? It looked exactly like that.

 
Congrats to everyone who was able to unload CJ before he was Usama Splattered today.

Looks for FJax to return next week now that Spiller Time is done for the season.

Thank goodness I didn't trade away by bench depth at running back.

 
My league doesn't have a waiver period so I can grab anyone whenever. Choice does have 53 yards on 11 carries so far. but I think I'm going to leave Choice on the waivers due to Fred reportedly returning soon.

 
Wow you guys are geniuses who knew he would get injured. Please tell me who will get hurt next week. TIA

 
Seemed like a 50/50 split this past week. Does anyone know the snap count?

Neither guy had a great game on the ground but from what I saw, both looked pretty decent. Freddie looked like he was running tough and was used in the passing game. Spiller had some nice cuts and was looking to break one any time he touched the ball. He seems like the beter back to have on this team but it all depends on how many touches they both get going forward. Anyone starting either of them @ SF this week?

 
I think I gotta wait 1 more week to throw spiller back in there.
Especially against SF. If it was a juicy match-up, I'd be tempted.
Wouldn't Spiller be the guy though against a better D? He has more chance to get in space and break one whereas Jackson as a more straight ahead guy should struggle against a stout D.
You'd think. But isn't Jackson the better blocker vs. that killer D?
 
Unfortunately for us FF guys, this has become a cluster**** sooner than expected, but not surprisingly, both guys wanted to return quickly to avoid the other guy cementing the starting gig.

Absent another injury to either, it will probably take at least a few weeks to sort out, but my money is on Spiller being the more productive guy. Fred's had two injuries to his leg/ankle area, which is more concerning than a shoulder injury to Spiller.

Fred did look spry on that reception last week, but it seems like he's the one that needs more work to produce, while Spiller can take it to the house on any given play.

The big question is who gets the work at the goal line. Surprisingly, Spiller got the goal line carry last week, but fumbled it away. Does Gailey stick with Spiller there, or does he give it to the more dependable and hard-running Fred?

 

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