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by far. he also made a beautiful catch downfield against the Patriots despite tough coverage.
I wouldn't put too much weight on the disparity in touches. Jackson and Spiller rotated offensive series evenly against New England (and they took all of the situational snaps in "their" series, ie passing downs, short-yardage etc). The fact that Jackson touched the ball more was probably due more to sheer randomness than anything else. I would expect an even split moving forward.
Yeah, I read that in Bloom's report.While it seems Jackson's the more well-rounded RB, it seems reasonable to assume that Spiller could still put up solid RB2 numbers post-49ers.
This is interesting. But I just don't like the Bills this week.
Depends on whether you mean 15 carries or touches. Touches I could definitely see, especially if they are in pass-happy mode. 15 carries may be tougher to come by when you factor in Fred's usage, unless you think they'll be running the ball all day long against the Niners. I think it's safe to say that run-centric mode won't be there.
I have no choice but to start both of them this week. Not happy about it.
b/c the 49ers are probably going to shut down the Bills offense?if you're expecting him to continue averaging 10 yards per carry like he did early on, it seems you might be setting yourself up for disappointment.
I thought the same thing, Aaron, but it's important to note that he was talking about solid RB2 numbers POST-49'ers.
thanks, I missed that.Most of Spiller's early season production came with Fred Jackson out of the lineup. It's certainly looking like a 50/50 split or something very similar at this point. Yes he doesn't need the ball a lot to put up good numbers, but I think RB2-level production is a pretty reasonable expectation as long as there is a time share going on.
The post I referred to specifically said that he could see solid RB2 numbers post-49ers. That seems super pessimistic.
Exactly.
I own Spiller, so obviously I am rooting for him. But the Bills clearly favor Jackson. I think that Spiller owners are hoping for a 50/50 split. But the Bills have never conveyed that kind of workshare with any of their actions or rhetoric.
At this juncture, any Spiller owner that's expecting anything more than a 50/50 split is just wishful thinking.
As my 4th RB taken in the draft, I was not even expecting a 50/50 split. I'm just fine with what I got in the 8th round. RB's taken by other teams in the 7th/8th prior to my Spiller pick? Vereen, Helu, Redman, B Wells, Gerhart.
I going start R.Williams over both these guys along with McCoy. My hope is that we will know more over next couple weeks. I ok with starting Doug Martin week 6 and 7 with the cupcakes he will be playing. Buf SOS is rather nice after there bye.
I don't think Spiller was fully healthy last week, but I think the Bills would be smart to use them both together. Spiller has lined up as a receiver in this scheme before so he's familiar with it. With TJ Graham and Brad Smith as his main competition for WR3 and WR4 snaps, it shouldn't be that tough.
That's tough. I think I mostly agree with you. I see Fred being the "main" back for the ground and pound, but Spiller definitely has the best big play ability. Either way, not a great matchup for them this week.
I'm starting Spiller over Fred, but obviously not loving the situation going into this weekend. We all know Spiller's big-play ability, so I think I'd regret sitting Spiller if he goes off more than I'd regret sitting Fred if he goes off. If Fred goes off, then great...but I won't kick myself if he's on my bench when he does. I WILL kick myself if Spiller is on my bench and he goes off like he did in the first couple weeks. Gotta go with the upside play this week until we see the distribution now that both are healthy.
The Bills just signed him to a contract extension this off season. They clearly don't want to let him go.
what would the Packers give up for a 31yo RB? I don't think he's going anywhere.
I have a feeling that both RBs' fortunes will rise and fall given the opponent defenses. I think both will be startable against weak opponents as solid flex players.'zamboni said:
Makes sense, but unfortunately the matchup game often doesn't work out like one would think. Hate to see anyone get hurt, but situation clarity is probably the only way that there will be big-time value for either one.
Sure. I've said all along that it makes sense for Buff to use both RB a lot. While that helps the Bills, fantasy owners will be disappointed.
The guaranteed money is low though. In 2013, he's due $2.15 million in salary plus a $300K March roster bonus, plus weekly roster bonuses of $150K for a total potential salary of $4.85 million. I think there's a chance they may not want to be paying a 32 year old RB that kind of money.
If I recall the contract is based on playing incentives. Very low in terms of guaranteed money. He's getting paid based on his health and his age. Where as franchise RBs get a ton of up front guaranteed money.
FWIW, the $150,000 in weekly roster bonuses is the total for the year, not the amount of the bonus each week. Fred Jackson's total compensation for 2013 (before incentives) is $2.60 million, not $4.85 million.
Seems likely that his shoulder still wasn't 100%. I think Spiller should be held onto unless another owner is willing to overpay you for him. He could easily be a difference maker during the playoffs. I think a 50/50 split is tougher news for Fred. I own both and it would take a lot to get Spiller from me, but I would easily give up Fred for someone like BenJarvus Green-Ellis (though I'd bet my chances of finding such a trade are slim).
True, but unless you're starting both it's a total guessing game as to who to slot in at RB2. And when you have a solid option available at that slot who is the lead back for his team it makes starting Spiller/FJax pretty unfeasible.
No production? This week in my .5 PPR league (with 3/4 of the Sunday night game done):Spiller is the #4 RB this week.Fred is the #13 RB this week.
Yeah, unless they have a tough matchup like last week vs SF, I think most people would be happy to start both on a weekly basis when both are healthy.Gator> thats your own fault for playing in a league where you can only start 2 RB's. The vast majority of even basic leagues allow you to start 3, hell, in all of my money leagues I can start 4 and I dont think that is all that uncommon.
This favors Jackson.
F Jax is a great back and he's getting healthier every week. They have no reason to sway one way or another. Both are great weapons.
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