Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (2 Viewers)

[Christo]

Robb was the worst GGRP ever, but I think it was his mom that ####ed everything all up.

I think Rob made it pretty clear last night that this is incorrect.

Capturing Tyrion and marching him up the hill wasn't the smartest idea ever. Turning Jamie loose was doubly stupid. Both these directly led to the events last night more than Robb getting some Valeryian ### imo.

But Frey was the key to last night not the Lannisters.

Disagree completely.

Frey was pissed, but no way was that old buzzard the key piece to this event.

What other reason would he have to side with the Lannisters?

that is frey's motivation, but he doesn't have the power to pull that off, which is why I said he wasn't the key to last night. I believe all this still stems from joff offing ned and cat nabbing tyrion. others seem to be pieces in the aftermath.

He had the army Robb needed but didn't have the power?

 

[CBusAlex]

I did think the show glossed over a big point in Westeros customs and unwritten rules - the bit about hospitality. A couple of episodes ago, Lady Cat warned Robb about making sure they are offered (and take) food and drink as soon as they get to the Freys - and at the beginning of this episode we see Robb eating and drinking and being offered the protection of hospitality by Lord Frey.

So Ned died behind a paper shield, and Robb behind a shield of salt and bread. Someone really needs to teach the Starks how to make proper armaments.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The thing about this show is there aren't many throw away scenes or lines. You really need to view things more than once. Same with mad men and a lot of shows these days. They're pretty much designed that way; to be seen more than once and be an active viewer.

Not trying to be a snob. Just expecting more out of fans.

 

[encaitar]

Robb was the worst GGRP ever, but I think it was his mom that ####ed everything all up.

I think Rob made it pretty clear last night that this is incorrect.

Capturing Tyrion and marching him up the hill wasn't the smartest idea ever. Turning Jamie loose was doubly stupid. Both these directly led to the events last night more than Robb getting some Valeryian ### imo.

But Frey was the key to last night not the Lannisters.

Disagree completely.

Frey was pissed, but no way was that old buzzard the key piece to this event.

What other reason would he have to side with the Lannisters?

that is frey's motivation, but he doesn't have the power to pull that off, which is why I said he wasn't the key to last night. I believe all this still stems from joff offing ned and cat nabbing tyrion. others seem to be pieces in the aftermath.

He had the army Robb needed but didn't have the power?

Robb's forces were larger than Frey's, but not large enough to attack Casterly Rock. He needed the Freys in order to send a message to Tywin. Also, by supporting Robb in the first place(when they first crossed the Twins last season), Walder Frey had already declared against the Lannisters. There is no way that he would've struck Robb down without assurances that he was now in Tywin's good graces.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Robb was the worst GGRP ever, but I think it was his mom that ####ed everything all up.

I think Rob made it pretty clear last night that this is incorrect.

Capturing Tyrion and marching him up the hill wasn't the smartest idea ever. Turning Jamie loose was doubly stupid. Both these directly led to the events last night more than Robb getting some Valeryian ### imo.

But Frey was the key to last night not the Lannisters.

Disagree completely.

Frey was pissed, but no way was that old buzzard the key piece to this event.

What other reason would he have to side with the Lannisters?

that is frey's motivation, but he doesn't have the power to pull that off, which is why I said he wasn't the key to last night. I believe all this still stems from joff offing ned and cat nabbing tyrion. others seem to be pieces in the aftermath.

He had the army Robb needed but didn't have the power?

#s <> power.he has troops and lives in a strategic place, but I would not consider frey to be "powerful" like a few of the other families. I am saying that I don't believe frey has the pull to accomplish what happened at the red wedding. tywin and a quill has more power than frey and his troops.

 

[Christo]

Robb was the worst GGRP ever, but I think it was his mom that ####ed everything all up.

I think Rob made it pretty clear last night that this is incorrect.

Capturing Tyrion and marching him up the hill wasn't the smartest idea ever. Turning Jamie loose was doubly stupid. Both these directly led to the events last night more than Robb getting some Valeryian ### imo.

But Frey was the key to last night not the Lannisters.

Disagree completely.

Frey was pissed, but no way was that old buzzard the key piece to this event.

What other reason would he have to side with the Lannisters?

that is frey's motivation, but he doesn't have the power to pull that off, which is why I said he wasn't the key to last night. I believe all this still stems from joff offing ned and cat nabbing tyrion. others seem to be pieces in the aftermath.

He had the army Robb needed but didn't have the power?

Robb's forces were larger than Frey's, but not large enough to attack Casterly Rock. He needed the Freys in order to send a message to Tywin. Also, by supporting Robb in the first place(when they first crossed the Twins last season), Walder Frey had already declared against the Lannisters. There is no way that he would've struck Robb down without assurances that he was now in Tywin's good graces.

And we've seen what assurances from others get you in this world. This would not have happened but for Robb breaking his vow.

 

[Chadstroma]

So, as far as Westeros is concerned- the Stark House is all but wiped from the earth. They think Ed, Cat, Robb, and the youngest brothers are dead. No one really knows of Arya and I would guess most would presume dead at this point. Jon took the black and in many ways makes him dead to Westeros. The only remaining Stark is married to a Lannister after being a hostage for a while.

To be fair...in the show..Theon's torturer knows that Bran and Rickon are still alive.

Sure, and some select people know Arya is running around still too but common knowledge is as it is above.

 

[belljr]

The thing about this show is there aren't many throw away scenes or lines. You really need to view things more than once. Same with mad men and a lot of shows these days. They're pretty much designed that way; to be seen more than once and be an active viewer. Not trying to be a snob. Just expecting more out of fans.

no schtick... this is why i never got into Lost... seemed like too much effort... if i cant get most stuff out of 1 viewing and maybe a little internet, i dont worry about it. if i wanted to di that much "work" i would read

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Screw it. You're probably right.

Back to people in fur getting stabbed.

I checked my DVD and it doesn't say "EAT" but I could swear it was there in the theatrical release and versions on HBO etc. And if you notice the format it was written in there has to be a word at the front. We'll call it a draw.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

 

[B-Deep]

House Graceford - Work Her Will in my pants

 

[bushdocda]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

So after they took care of the first wave and were surrounded again by more (it seemed), why did the soldiers/city surrender?Did they wreck all them too and open the front gate as they planned? :nonbookreader:

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

So after they took care of the first wave and were surrounded again by more (it seemed), why did the soldiers/city surrender?Did they wreck all them too and open the front gate as they planned? :nonbookreader:

That's what's implied. Also, the "slave soldiers" gave up because they knew they'd be freed by dany. Not sure whether that began before or after opening the gates.

 

[UniAlias]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

So after they took care of the first wave and were surrounded again by more (it seemed), why did the soldiers/city surrender?Did they wreck all them too and open the front gate as they planned? :nonbookreader:

Was kind of curious about this as well. After the 2nd wave of guards swarmed in it seemed like the whole city knew and the initial front gate opening plan was ruined.Still a really cool scene though.

 

[culdeus]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

So after they took care of the first wave and were surrounded again by more (it seemed), why did the soldiers/city surrender?Did they wreck all them too and open the front gate as they planned?:nonbookreader:

Was kind of curious about this as well. After the 2nd wave of guards swarmed in it seemed like the whole city knew and the initial front gate opening plan was ruined.Still a really cool scene though.

Yeah, so did the 2nd wave just throw in the towel or what?

 

[UniAlias]

I'm sure it's been discussed but the fight scene with Jorah/Grayworm/Fabio against the Yuengling guards was pretty badass. Three different guys...three different weapons...three different styles of fighting.

Yea that was well done and pretty bad ###. Those 3 ran through 30 guys?

So after they took care of the first wave and were surrounded again by more (it seemed), why did the soldiers/city surrender?Did they wreck all them too and open the front gate as they planned?:nonbookreader:

Was kind of curious about this as well. After the 2nd wave of guards swarmed in it seemed like the whole city knew and the initial front gate opening plan was ruined.Still a really cool scene though.

Yeah, so did the 2nd wave just throw in the towel or what?

I assume they wiped out the 2nd wave and proceeded to open the front gates. Just seems unlikely that they could sneak in the back door and slaughter ~50 people without an alarm being raised.

 

[bigbottom]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

 

[bonesman]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

They do. Cat certainly does. Everyone on the Frey side that is using it as their cue to attack understands the relevance.

On the show they stopped the music and Walder had a little speech, but in the book it goes from music to attack pretty seamlessly as dude in the mail bolts for the door and Cat catches him, gets thrown down, Rob steps and then arrows fly.

I think the question was why didn't Stark's men immediately react... well, a lot of the main warrior dudes (Greatjohn in the book) were taking part in the wedding ceremony and were undressing the bride and carrying her to the room. Where they surely meet an ambush of some kind.

 

[Otis]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Yeah but the characters didn't read the book.

 

[bigbottom]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Yeah but the characters didn't read the book.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I'm just enthralled with all of this music discussion. Maybe after the finale we can fixate on other fascinating topics such as the lighting or the font choice for the closing credits.

 

[Gr00vus]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Seemed like all the Stark men that remained in the room were plastered, and Robb was too busy playing googly eyes with his wife to notice.

 

[Gr00vus]

Interesting contrast between Robb, who chose love/lust over duty and dies, and Jon, who chose duty over love/lust and lives.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Sorry if a Honda, but some of these are pretty good...

Best GOT Tweets after Red Wedding.

Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters.

Game of Thrones will really surprise people next year when in the ninth episodes they kill off actual viewers.

Game of Thrones: a show for those who can't deal with the sunny optimism of The Walking Dead.

 

[Gr00vus]

Sorry if a Honda, but some of these are pretty good...

Best GOT Tweets after Red Wedding.

Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters.

>Game of Thrones will really surprise people next year when in the ninth episodes they kill off actual viewers.

Game of Thrones: a show for those who can't deal with the sunny optimism of The Walking Dead.

Watching people react to the new Game of Thrones episode is like seeing other people see goatse.cx for the first time.

Outraged by tonight's Game of Thrones? Welcome to EVERY Thanksgiving for turkeys.

 

[B-Deep]

interesting

were people sad after that?

 

[B-Deep]

those tweets are gold

 

[B-Deep]

NOBODY WATCH GAME OF THRONES ITS HORRIBLE AND IT WILL MAKE YOUR SOUL CRUSH INTO PIECES AND YOU'LL BE FOREVER CRYING

 

[Gr00vus]

People seem real upset about Game of Thrones. But I can relate to sadness. Halloween '02 I opened my starbursts package, and bam. 2 yellows.

 

[bostonfred]

In honor or Mrs. Stark's last episode at the red wedding I went back to the episode where she said attack attack and gave myself a white wetting.

 

[Gr00vus]

Spoiler.

 

[Major]

I was watching a replay of Candelabra and didn't see last night's episode. Did I miss anything?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

These things are F'ing gold.

Chris Erickson @EricksonCL

And that folks is why you always go DJ over wedding band #gameofthrones

Zachary D Smith @drzachary


Folks watching #gameofthrones who didn't read the books: remember when your really nerdy friend was super sad 13 years ago? This is why!

Brie Medina @BrieMedina

#### YOU GAME OF THRONES IM CRYING SO HARD IM NOT MOVING EVER AGAIN I'LL AVENGE THE STARK FAMILY MYSELF #######IT #GameofThrones

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

These things are F'ing gold.

Chris Erickson @EricksonCL

And that folks is why you always go DJ over wedding band #gameofthrones

Zachary D Smith @drzachary

Folks watching #gameofthrones who didn't read the books: remember when your really nerdy friend was super sad 13 years ago? This is why! :(

Brie Medina @BrieMedina

#### YOU GAME OF THRONES IM CRYING SO HARD IM NOT MOVING EVER AGAIN I'LL AVENGE THE STARK FAMILY MYSELF #######IT #GameofThrones

That's how old the books are? Wow.

 

[bosoxs45]

The thing about this show is there aren't many throw away scenes or lines. You really need to view things more than once. Same with mad men and a lot of shows these days. They're pretty much designed that way; to be seen more than once and be an active viewer.

Not trying to be a snob. Just expecting more out of fans.

no schtick... this is why i never got into Lost... seemed like too much effort... if i cant get most stuff out of 1 viewing and maybe a little internet, i dont worry about it. if i wanted to di that much "work" i would read

Maybe Duck Dynasty is up in your wheelhouse then.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Seemed like all the Stark men that remained in the room were plastered, and Robb was too busy playing googly eyes with his wife to notice.

Right. Hey guys, I'm not saying you should have been like "Oh ####, what's that!?!? Is it??? No . . . It can't be . . . OH MY GOD IT"S THE LANNISTERS THEME MUSIC!!!" And then expect Jaime to run down the aisle with a steel chair!!!!!!

I'm just saying that context clues were there all season and last year as well for the audience to recognize the tune and wonder why maybe the title of the episode was Rains of Castamere.

 

[culdeus]

The closing of the door had me thinking it was a tarp right away.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Right. Hey guys, I'm not saying you should have been like "Oh ####, what's that!?!? Is it??? No . . . It can't be . . . OH MY GOD IT"S THE LANNISTERS THEME MUSIC!!!" And then expect Jaime to run down the aisle with a steel chair!!!!!!

I'm just saying that context clues were there all season and last year as well for the audience to recognize the tune and wonder why maybe the title of the episode was Rains of Castamere.

Do they even show the title of the episode on HBO?

 

[Wingnut]

I had a feeling something bad was gonna happen when Walder had Talisa step forward and he talked all that crap. I had no idea of the extent of the carnage, but from that point on I was waiting for it. When I saw the doors being closed I knew it was about to go down.

 

[Thunderlips]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Seemed like all the Stark men that remained in the room were plastered, and Robb was too busy playing googly eyes with his wife to notice.

Right. Hey guys, I'm not saying you should have been like "Oh ####, what's that!?!? Is it??? No . . . It can't be . . . OH MY GOD IT"S THE LANNISTERS THEME MUSIC!!!" And then expect Jaime to run down the aisle with a steel chair!!!!!!

I'm just saying that context clues were there all season and last year as well for the audience to recognize the tune and wonder why maybe the title of the episode was Rains of Castamere.

That would have worked as well......with Bolton Pearl Harboring Robb from behind.

 

[Steed]

Here's the true test of the song debate.

Did anyone notice the played The Bear and the Maiden Fair in the episode? And that song had more rotations this season then the other one.

 

[B-Deep]

Here's my prediction for the end of the series, with no spoilers

Martin is gonna finish book 6 and keep killing people

then he'll get 2/3rds of the way finished with book 7 (prolly in 2020) and he'll die

Then Spielberg will take up the task of finishing the show, and it will have a happy ending

and everyone will hate Spielberg for the happy ending, and he will insist that the happy ending was written already by Martin, and he just filled in parts around it

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Here's the true test of the song debate.

Did anyone notice the played The Bear and the Maiden Fair in the episode? And that song had more rotations this season then the other one.

Right before Rains.

 

[belljr]

The thing about this show is there aren't many throw away scenes or lines. You really need to view things more than once. Same with mad men and a lot of shows these days. They're pretty much designed that way; to be seen more than once and be an active viewer.Not trying to be a snob. Just expecting more out of fans. ]

no schtick... this is why i never got into Lost... seemed like too much effort... if i cant get most stuff out of 1 viewing and maybe a little internet, i dont worry about it. if i wanted to di that much "work" i would read ]

Maybe Duck Dynasty is up in your wheelhouse then.

big fan

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Right. Hey guys, I'm not saying you should have been like "Oh ####, what's that!?!? Is it??? No . . . It can't be . . . OH MY GOD IT"S THE LANNISTERS THEME MUSIC!!!" And then expect Jaime to run down the aisle with a steel chair!!!!!!

I'm just saying that context clues were there all season and last year as well for the audience to recognize the tune and wonder why maybe the title of the episode was Rains of Castamere.

Not during the title sequence. You have to hit info on your remote.

 

[belljr]

do we now have renaissance faire music snobs?

j/k

i woul have put a smiley but didnt want to cause grief for anyone quoting me

 

[bostonfred]

See? Us book people were waiting for this forever and we didn't spoil it by calling it the red wedding and talking about how awesome season three was going to be and how lots of main characters die. You guys are going to love it when the aliens attack in the finale, but I won't tell you anything about how the dragons kill them.

 

[gump]

See? Us book people were waiting for this forever and we didn't spoil it by calling it the red wedding and talking about how awesome season three was going to be and how lots of main characters die. You guys are going to love it when the aliens attack in the finale, but I won't tell you anything about how the dragons kill them.

I remembered the term from reading it early in the other thread....but never saw a spoiler...and actually thought a few weeks ago it may have described the marriage of the two redheads, Tyrion and Sansa.

 

[shadyridr]

Picking up on the song really isn't a book vs. non book thing, it is a perception/music thing. While the books have the lyrics and state when the song is being sung or played it is not like you know what that sounds like. Sure, I knew the meaning of the song before the show started, but it wasn't really until late last season (because of a podcast) that I started hearing and thinking about the music in the show. The non book reader of the podcast is very focused on music in film and TV so he brought up the musical cues and hints that were going on ie - Rains of Castemere and Melisandre's theme. Just like me, the other person on the podcast, who had read all the books, hadn't picked up on those. It's one of those things that you start to notice once it is pointed out to you, but I completely understand people not picking up on it naturally.

I really do not care whether a book or non-book reader pick up on it- those within the world should have.

This was my thought. If the characters themselves don't understand the relevance of the song playing at the wedding, why should the audience?

Seemed like all the Stark men that remained in the room were plastered, and Robb was too busy playing googly eyes with his wife to notice.

Right. Hey guys, I'm not saying you should have been like "Oh ####, what's that!?!? Is it??? No . . . It can't be . . . OH MY GOD IT"S THE LANNISTERS THEME MUSIC!!!" And then expect Jaime to run down the aisle with a steel chair!!!!!!

I'm just saying that context clues were there all season and last year as well for the audience to recognize the tune and wonder why maybe the title of the episode was Rains of Castamere.