Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

Jesus, you're horrible.

I believe you're looking for this thread: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=680359

I believe he means Jeebus.

 

[EYLive]

Sweeney vs. Shady in a pit with a bear! The loser is named ******* from the marshlands.

 

[dparker713]

How about we make THIS the TV thread? Who's in?!

april 10th is when this went from gay love affair thread to tv thread

Bigboy (ironic name for the person shift away from gay romance) was not the founder of this thread. Shuke is our John Hancock, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson all rolled up into one person here.

If Shuke is John Hancock, think of MT as Merlin. He's got powers beyond any mere poster and can alter reality as you know it. He can make you disappear for an instant or forever. He advises the king of the realm and he has spoken already. Wake the Dragon at your own risk.

 

[Wingnut]

I'm just into season 2, but I just have to say that Peter Dinklage is just killing it. I hope his character sticks around, he's awesome in every scene he's in.

 

[Otis]

Anyone here watch New Girl? Her bewbs looked great last night.

Also is there a New Girl book?

 

[Otis]

Psyched for tonight.

 

[Ilov80s]

Why do I have to wait another week? For an episode that featured a bunch of new characters and some new story lines, it also managed to freaking awesome.

 

[shadyridr]

Awesome ####in episode. Every scene with arya kicks major ###

 

[Tremendous Upside]

The Boltons are some sick mother####ers...

Especially Michael

 

[Otis]

His new wife is hot.

Great show. Always hate when it ends. Another effing week...

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode.

Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are?

Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode.

Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are?

Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

He's Roose Bolton's ******* and he reported back to Robb that WInterfell had been burnt with no survivors found

In reality they found Theon and are doing what Boltons do to prisoners

 

[Ilov80s]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode. Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are? Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

He's Roose Bolton's ******* and he reported back to Robb that WInterfell had been burnt with no survivors found In reality they found Theon and are doing what Boltons do to prisoners

This part is still pretty confusing. Why would they lie about having found Theon? What kind of info are they trying to get from him? Did they burn Winterfell or was it Theons accomplices?

 

[shadyridr]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode. Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are? Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

He's Roose Bolton's ******* and he reported back to Robb that WInterfell had been burnt with no survivors found In reality they found Theon and are doing what Boltons do to prisoners

yes i think it was one of the questions from the season finale many of us had. Who took theon? I still have no clue who has him trapped now. Im not sure they did a good job explaining or maybe they didnt explain yet

 

[Ilov80s]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode. Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are? Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

He's Roose Bolton's ******* and he reported back to Robb that WInterfell had been burnt with no survivors found In reality they found Theon and are doing what Boltons do to prisoners

yes i think it was one of the questions from the season finale many of us had. Who took theon? I still have no clue who has him trapped now. Im not sure they did a good job explaining or maybe they didnt explain yet

Right, they really haven't explained it. I rewatched S2 and it is not clear at all.

 

[Brady Marino]

Just started watching...Bran got old in the past year.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Info on who has Theon (may have some book stuff, not sure I can differentiate at this point)

Spoiler

House Bolton is a Northern House that is renowned for their extreme treatment of enemies. Their sigil is The Flayed Man. They were Stark enemies for thousands of years before becoming Stark bannermen.

In the sack of Winterfell the Boltons switched sides and supported the invading force...The head was the ******* son of house Bolton, Ramsay Snow (as all Northern bastards are called Snow)

They were the real conquerors of Winterfell and now they have Theon

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I can't remember many disappointing GoT episodes, but this was top notch stuff this week. Every scene was great. Awesome episode. Can someone remind me where we left off with Theon? I was surprised they didn't have it in the recap in the beginning. I remember he fake killed the Stark boys and I remember Robb had sent someone to take back Winterfell, but wasn't there something fishy about that guy? Did that guy take back Winterfell and is he the one that has Theon now, or did we not see Theon get captured onscreen and still don't know who his captors are? Glad to see him getting tortured either way.

He's Roose Bolton's ******* and he reported back to Robb that WInterfell had been burnt with no survivors found In reality they found Theon and are doing what Boltons do to prisoners

yes i think it was one of the questions from the season finale many of us had. Who took theon? I still have no clue who has him trapped now. Im not sure they did a good job explaining or maybe they didnt explain yet

Right, they really haven't explained it. I rewatched S2 and it is not clear at all.

Robb Stark, at the request of Roose Bolton, sent Roose's ******* sin to liberate winterfell. Robb said to offer all the Greyjoy men freedom to return to the iron islands, except he wanted Theon so he could behead him himself. Roose said that the Greyjoy men would turn theon over as soon as they heard the offer. The Bolton ******* had winterfell surrounded. Theon went nuts with a horn playing all the time. Theon gave a great pre-battle speech and then his own men knocked him out and bagged his head to turn him over to Bolton. Then we just saw that everybody in winterfell was killed and the place burned. So we assume Bolton ******* still has theon and they sacked winterfell for some reason.

 

[KarmaPolice]

Really liked a lot of the episode. Some really strong scenes to be had, and I am really digging the performances that Sansa and Joffrey are putting in. For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

Also good: no Dany or Stannis, as they are my least favorite plot lines going. Bad: no Littlefinger - he is probably the character I am most interested in seeing the character arc for. He is always seemingly off to the side, but of everybody he seems to know what he is doing/has an endgame in mind (I guess him and Joffrey's bride-to-be).

Just to give you whiny-asses something to post about , I think the opposite is happening in this season compared to season 1. Here I think the scenes not in the book (or what I remember not being in there) are the weak link and at the beginning I thought some of the TV only scenes were some of my favorites.

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, Bran definitely hit puberty during the hiatus.

 

[shadyridr]

That old woman was awesome. It looks like margeary wanted to kill joffrey. Great scene

 

[Brady Marino]

That old woman was awesome.

Diana Rigg.

 

[mad sweeney]

That old woman was awesome. It looks like margeary wanted to kill joffrey. Great scene

I dunno about that. It seemed to me that, armed with Sansa's info about Joffrey, she manipulated that meeting to make Joffrey want to watch her kill something. She set it up so that one of Joffrey's character defects was appealed to. She only looked nervous for a second when he mentioned making homosexual behavior a hanging offense, because of dear brother Loras. Otherwise, she looked like she took that whole situation and turned it into making Joffrey want her more, which = more power for her.

 

[shadyridr]

That old woman was awesome. It looks like margeary wanted to kill joffrey. Great scene

I dunno about that. It seemed to me that, armed with Sansa's info about Joffrey, she manipulated that meeting to make Joffrey want to watch her kill something. She set it up so that one of Joffrey's character defects was appealed to. She only looked nervous for a second when he mentioned making homosexual behavior a hanging offense, because of dear brother Loras. Otherwise, she looked like she took that whole situation and turned it into making Joffrey want her more, which = more power for her.

It looked like she got pissed off when he mentioned making homosexuality punishable by death cuz of her brother. And then she implied shed love to be on one end of the crossbow by killing something on the other end

 

[Sabertooth]

That old woman was awesome. It looks like margeary wanted to kill joffrey. Great scene

I dunno about that. It seemed to me that, armed with Sansa's info about Joffrey, she manipulated that meeting to make Joffrey want to watch her kill something. She set it up so that one of Joffrey's character defects was appealed to. She only looked nervous for a second when he mentioned making homosexual behavior a hanging offense, because of dear brother Loras. Otherwise, she looked like she took that whole situation and turned it into making Joffrey want her more, which = more power for her.

I agree. She's got Joff right where she wants him right now.

 

[mad sweeney]

That old woman was awesome. It looks like margeary wanted to kill joffrey. Great scene

I dunno about that. It seemed to me that, armed with Sansa's info about Joffrey, she manipulated that meeting to make Joffrey want to watch her kill something. She set it up so that one of Joffrey's character defects was appealed to. She only looked nervous for a second when he mentioned making homosexual behavior a hanging offense, because of dear brother Loras. Otherwise, she looked like she took that whole situation and turned it into making Joffrey want her more, which = more power for her.

It looked like she got pissed off when he mentioned making homosexuality punishable by death cuz of her brother. And then she implied shed love to be on one end of the crossbow by killing something on the other end

Yeah, just like I said, she's playing to the monster to start to really get control over him. She had him in a near mindless tizzy by the end of it. That wasn't pissed off, that was nervousness/fear, over, as I said, the possible fate of Loras. Then she went back into seduction mode. She's done nothing but manipulate since she got the proposal. Giong to the orphans was a way to gain support for her, not for the King, among the little people.

The whole scene with the grandma was a strategy session on how to get to Joffrey because he wasn't responding to her dressing like a wanton whore. She didn't look nervous or scared when Sansa said he was a monster. It was just info to use to make sure a Tyrell gets a bloodline to the throne via her uterus. So, whore doesn't work, next strategy is... cruelty and killing things. Her entire tack of conversation led to that. Boldly speaking about what she wanted, then demure apologies, then another spurt of boldness, then demure, until she got Joff to put his arm around her and actually get interested in her, rather than her simply as an alliance (like he spoke about with Cersei). Never once was she interested in, considering or contemplating killing Joff. She needs to be married and have a kid with him, she's otherwise as uninterested in him as Loras is in Sansa. Joffrey's done nothing to upset her, she knows he's an utter despot so she got a little scared when he mentioned hanging gays because she knows that if that happened she'd still be the doting wife for her family's sake. But other than that brief glimpse of fear, she's playing him like a tight bow string from the minute she stepped into the room.

 

[Sabertooth]

Yeah he was definitely aroused by her asking if he'd like to watch her kill something.

 

[Sabertooth]

Jaime Lannister always cracks me up. He's such an enigma.

 

[bigbottom]

Jaime Lannister always cracks me up. He's such an enigma.

Agreed. But Tyrion has been bumming me out now that he's a lovesick puppy. He's lost his mojo.

 

[Buckna]

Margery telling Joffrey that Renly got drunk one night and suggested she perform her wifely duties in a way that sounded very painful and couldn't possibly result in children.

 

[EYLive]

I hope Joff and Margery get married this season.

 

[Gr00vus]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

 

[shadyridr]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

 

[Gr00vus]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

Sorry if this is considered a spoiler: a healthy Jaime puts Brienne down even when wearing those manacles.

 

[Doubtingthomas]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

Not sure if the fight was intentionally bad but it reinforces

 

[Sabertooth]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

Sorry if this is considered a spoiler: a healthy Jaime puts Brienne down even when wearing those manacles.

I loved him being proven right on the slaughter of innocents too. If she'd murdered that guy with the cart, they'd still be marching toward King's landing. That's the type of moral ambiguity that hooked me on the novels. Even Jaime tossing Bran out the window can be seen an act of mercy on the kingdom if you look at the big picture.

 

[Slider6]

I hope Joff and Margery get married this season.

Don't think it's a spoiler, but better safe than sorry with this thread.

Spoiler

Looking at the episode names for this season, I don't see it happening until next season.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

Sorry if this is considered a spoiler: a healthy Jaime puts Brienne down even when wearing those manacles.

I loved him being proven right on the slaughter of innocents too. If she'd murdered that guy with the cart, they'd still be marching toward King's landing. That's the type of moral ambiguity that hooked me on the novels. Even Jaime tossing Bran out the window can be seen an act of mercy on the kingdom if you look at the big picture.

I've only read the books that have already been covered by the previous seasons, but it seems over and over that anyone who tries to do "the right thing" pays for that choice. The prevailing message seems to be that nobility and altruism are punished in this world, while those with guile and shifting loyalties always prevail because they are adaptable.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Slider, spoiler tags are only effective if you spell "spoiler" accurately in both the beginning and end tags.

 

[Slider6]

Slider, spoiler tags are only effective if you spell "spoiler" accurately in both the beginning and end tags.

Haha! Yeah, sometimes my fingers get a little too fast I guess.

 

[wazoo11]

That old woman was awesome.

Diana Rigg.

Whoa (sfw)

 

[Thunderlips]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

Sorry if this is considered a spoiler: a healthy Jaime puts Brienne down even when wearing those manacles.

I know he knows that he would beat her....but I thought the he acknowledged in the books that despite being in prison for a year and not cuffed....that she would have been a tough nut to crack....

 

[Gr00vus]

For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

I thought that was a great scene. Not only did it reenforce that Brienne can fight, more importantly it showed how weak Jaime has become - he can't back up the talk at this point.

well he was still wearing handcuffs

Sorry if this is considered a spoiler: a healthy Jaime puts Brienne down even when wearing those manacles.

I know he knows that he would beat her....but I thought the he acknowledged in the books that despite being in prison for a year and not cuffed....that she would have been a tough nut to crack....

For sure. I didn't say he'd put her down easy, but he certainly wouldn't lose.

 

[Drifter]

Really liked a lot of the episode. Some really strong scenes to be had, and I am really digging the performances that Sansa and Joffrey are putting in. For me the weak link was the final scene - thought the Brianne vs. Jamie fight was a little slow and didn't seem to carry much weight for me.

Also good: no Dany or Stannis, as they are my least favorite plot lines going. Bad: no Littlefinger - he is probably the character I am most interested in seeing the character arc for. He is always seemingly off to the side, but of everybody he seems to know what he is doing/has an endgame in mind (I guess him and Joffrey's bride-to-be).

Just to give you whiny-asses something to post about , I think the opposite is happening in this season compared to season 1. Here I think the scenes not in the book (or what I remember not being in there) are the weak link and at the beginning I thought some of the TV only scenes were some of my favorites.

It's slow because "knightly" fighting with those giant swords is pretty damn slow.

 

[Ilov80s]

I thought the sword fight at the end was awesome. Sure, we knew neither was going to be seriously harmed. However, just seeing Kingslayer get a sword in his hand and his enjoyment of getting to fight again was a thrill. It's going to be a great combo now that they are a tag team. I doubt there is another pair in the realm that can beat them.

 

[shadyridr]

I thought the sword fight at the end was awesome. Sure, we knew neither was going to be seriously harmed.

speak for yourself. This is a show that killed off its main star 8 episodes into its fist season.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I thought the sword fight at the end was awesome. Sure, we knew neither was going to be seriously harmed. However, just seeing Kingslayer get a sword in his hand and his enjoyment of getting to fight again was a thrill. It's going to be a great combo now that they are a tag team. I doubt there is another pair in the realm that can beat them.

He did seem to really enjoy having that sword back in his right hand again.

 

[EYLive]

With Brienne, you never know what kind of sword fight you'll get into.

 

[Ilov80s]

I thought the sword fight at the end was awesome. Sure, we knew neither was going to be seriously harmed.

speak for yourself. This is a show that killed off its main star 8 episodes into its fist season.

Well I didn't know, but it just didn't feel like it was right for either character to go down. Both have so much more that they can accomplish within the story. As for Ned, the only reason we thought he would escape was because "that is what is supposed to happen" in these epic tales. If you look at the facts of the story, Ned was a clear dead man.

ETA: Also, it didn't really benefit either person to kill the other. If Kingslayer dies, Brienne has totally failed her mission (as he pointed out). If Kinglsayer kills her, he is now all alone in the middle of the kingdom. He is better off with Brienne because she has his back in case they stumble onto some trouble. She is taking him to Kings Landing, it's not like she is marching him to wall or anything. She is trying to free him. The fight was a pissing contest and a way for Lannister to entertain himself.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also, Kingslayer might be my favorite character now. His banter is great. I wish we could have a prequel with him and a single Tyrion going out boozing. They had to have had some wild times.