Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[culdeus]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

 

[shadyridr]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

A map is part of the opening credits

 

[Swing 51]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/season3/#!/locations/maidenpool/

 

[strykerpks]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

I've found myself getting lost as well.

The Game of Thrones Wiki is a pretty good resource and they have a few maps. I've paused and pulled this up on many occasions. They do a good job of keeping the articles about the show only. Their episode recaps are typically done by region and not necessarily chronologically and have helped me a little. Some sections are dedicated to how they relate to the books but it's easy to avoid those.

 

[culdeus]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/season3/#!/locations/maidenpool/

quite useful. thanks

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

The introduction of the show is a map which indicates where they are going to be in the episode/season. If you pay attention to where people say they are and are going and pay attention to the opening of the show, you will get a better idea of how vast the realm is and where people are.

We don't know where Theon is right now and we know that Bran is heading North. Jon was last at the Fist of the First men, which is well north of Craster's and the Wall, and he is heading for the wall. Jaime and Brienne are still in the Riverlands and are headed to Harrenhall. Dany is across the Narrow Sea in Astopor.

This is the most complete map there is IMO: http://kevinhatch.com/media/kh-asoiaf.pdf

Now, try not to pay attention to who is listed as holding each place though. They may be spoilers, but I also am not sure when it was updated last.

 

[Mile High]

Dany is along way from kings landing. Could take years to get there.

 

[Runningman]

Dany is along way from kings landing. Could take years to get there.

Just keep swimming swimming swimming!

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

 

[Otis]

Love these books.

 

[anakin]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

Didn't say she is hideous, but I'm not on board with those who think she's really hot. Maybe in part because I seem to remember being underwhelmed by the average-at-best boobies she showed in The Tudors...

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

>

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

Didn't say she is hideous, but I'm not on board with those who think she's really hot. Maybe in part because I seem to remember being underwhelmed by the average-at-best boobies she showed in The Tudors...

My link

 

[shadyridr]

Why cant she be both ridiculously hot and have a pig nose?

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

side note... is Joffrey gay? or is he just asexual? have we ever seen him show any interest in being physical with a girl?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

DON'T TELL US !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

>

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

Didn't say she is hideous, but I'm not on board with those who think she's really hot. Maybe in part because I seem to remember being underwhelmed by the average-at-best boobies she showed in The Tudors...

My link

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

need to see her show the goods on this show. Loved her in 300.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The map helps a lot. I think it's almost necessary, as they really don't bring distance into things in the show. It took Stannis multiple episodes to sail from Dragonstone to King's Landing and apparently they're right next door to each other. Meanwhile Theon went from Pyke to Winterfell during a 10 minute cut-away and they're half the world apart. I also didn't realize how big the continent that Dany is on is. It's even bigger than Westeros yet no one seems to have any interest in ruling it.

Sometimes I feel like they don't play up the gravity of certain things enough on the show. Maybe it's a budget thing but Theon taking Winterfell didn't seem like *that* big of a deal in the show. It just seemed like he kind of slid his way in there into control and when he was thrown out things would go back to normal, except some fires were set by the Bolton's on the way out. Meanwhile, the map describes it as some huge battle where one of the world's most long-standing keeps was obliterated to the point where the entire city is completely gone beyond the point of rebuilding.

Same thing with The Mountain. Book readers seem to be really interested in him as if his storyline is some kind of big deal, but in the show he's had basically two scenes played by two different actors 2 years apart in realtime. As a show watcher I didn't think he was anything other than some one-off minor character and I certainly wasn't keeping track of where his plotline was going.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The map helps a lot. I think it's almost necessary, as they really don't bring distance into things in the show. It took Stannis multiple episodes to sail from Dragonstone to King's Landing and apparently they're right next door to each other. Meanwhile Theon went from Pyke to Winterfell during a 10 minute cut-away and they're half the world apart. I also didn't realize how big the continent that Dany is on is. It's even bigger than Westeros yet no one seems to have any interest in ruling it.

Sometimes I feel like they don't play up the gravity of certain things enough on the show. Maybe it's a budget thing but Theon taking Winterfell didn't seem like *that* big of a deal in the show. It just seemed like he kind of slid his way in there into control and when he was thrown out things would go back to normal, except some fires were set by the Bolton's on the way out. Meanwhile, the map describes it as some huge battle where one of the world's most long-standing keeps was obliterated to the point where the entire city is completely gone beyond the point of rebuilding.

Same thing with The Mountain. Book readers seem to be really interested in him as if his storyline is some kind of big deal, but in the show he's had basically two scenes played by two different actors 2 years apart in realtime. As a show watcher I didn't think he was anything other than some one-off minor character and I certainly wasn't keeping track of where his plotline was going.

would of loved to have seen the battle at the fist of first man too, instead of just horse heads in a spiral.

 

[FattyVM]

The map helps a lot. I think it's almost necessary, as they really don't bring distance into things in the show. It took Stannis multiple episodes to sail from Dragonstone to King's Landing and apparently they're right next door to each other. Meanwhile Theon went from Pyke to Winterfell during a 10 minute cut-away and they're half the world apart. I also didn't realize how big the continent that Dany is on is. It's even bigger than Westeros yet no one seems to have any interest in ruling it.

Sometimes I feel like they don't play up the gravity of certain things enough on the show. Maybe it's a budget thing but Theon taking Winterfell didn't seem like *that* big of a deal in the show. It just seemed like he kind of slid his way in there into control and when he was thrown out things would go back to normal, except some fires were set by the Bolton's on the way out. Meanwhile, the map describes it as some huge battle where one of the world's most long-standing keeps was obliterated to the point where the entire city is completely gone beyond the point of rebuilding.

Same thing with The Mountain. Book readers seem to be really interested in him as if his storyline is some kind of big deal, but in the show he's had basically two scenes played by two different actors 2 years apart in realtime. As a show watcher I didn't think he was anything other than some one-off minor character and I certainly wasn't keeping track of where his plotline was going.

The mountain (using only what the TV SHOW has offered) is a giant wreckingball, ruthless and sadistic, to the point of crippling his younger brother as only a middle-tween (for only playing with a toy that was long forgotten to him). He was a war "hero" before the age of 20, and as the hound (his brother) described the other day to the lightning lord, was one of the first in roberts rebellion to help in the sacking of kings landing. He also told beric that the brutalitly shown to the Targaryen family was HIM. He raped and killed Rhaegar's wife before killing her infant son by bashing his skull against a wall, and helped in the raping of the daughter before then killing everyone. Beric was assigned to be the one to hunt him down as Ned Stark asked in season one, which led to where he was in the last episode.

 

[Sabertooth]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

In the books the way they described her I envisioned Heidi Klum. I didn't think Lena Headly Lamar could pull it off. She has. Although I think they should have bleached the eyebrows.

 

[FattyVM]

Oh, also re: The Mountain. He'll be important going forward since he is the most intimidating enforcer the Lannister's have, and he is completely loyal to them as long as they turn a blind eye to his nature

.

 

[Mile High]

Dany is along way from kings landing. Could take years to get there.

Just keep swimming swimming swimming!

That will get her closer then leading a march over land.

 

[culdeus]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

>

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

Didn't say she is hideous, but I'm not on board with those who think she's really hot. Maybe in part because I seem to remember being underwhelmed by the average-at-best boobies she showed in The Tudors...

Apparently I'm out on a limb when I say I really disliked her in the Tudors. I thought she tried way too hard to steal scenes and is doing more of the same look at me acting in this show. Hell, I think she's basically playing the same character more or less with the same costumes.

She had some nice nood scenes in Tudors, but she's nothing that great. If I'm not mistaken she did some softcore skinemax prior to the tudors under a different name. Maybe that was someone else in this show, i forget now.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

In the books the way they described her I envisioned Heidi Klum. I didn't think Lena Headly Lamar could pull it off. She has. Although I think they should have bleached the eyebrows.

No f'ing way. The blond hair and dark eyebrows is what makes her so damned hot. Wouldn't necessarily work for everyone, but it sure works for her.

 

[Mile High]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

In the books the way they described her I envisioned Heidi Klum. I didn't think Lena Headly Lamar could pull it off. She has. Although I think they should have bleached the eyebrows.

No f'ing way. The blond hair and dark eyebrows is what makes her so damned hot. Wouldn't necessarily work for everyone, but it sure works for her.

She and Emilia both wear wigs for the show. Guess it would take more money to have them bleach their brows to match the wigs.

 

[Brady Marino]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

In the books the way they described her I envisioned Heidi Klum. I didn't think Lena Headly Lamar could pull it off. She has. Although I think they should have bleached the eyebrows.

No f'ing way. The blond hair and dark eyebrows is what makes her so damned hot. Wouldn't necessarily work for everyone, but it sure works for her.

She and Emilia both wear wigs for the show. Guess it would take more money to have them bleach their brows to match the wigs.

Is hair color that expensive?

 

[UniAlias]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

The introduction of the show is a map which indicates where they are going to be in the episode/season. If you pay attention to where people say they are and are going and pay attention to the opening of the show, you will get a better idea of how vast the realm is and where people are.

We don't know where Theon is right now and we know that Bran is heading North. Jon was last at the Fist of the First men, which is well north of Craster's and the Wall, and he is heading for the wall. Jaime and Brienne are still in the Riverlands and are headed to Harrenhall. Dany is across the Narrow Sea in Astopor.

This is the most complete map there is IMO: http://kevinhatch.com/media/kh-asoiaf.pdf

Now, try not to pay attention to who is listed as holding each place though. They may be spoilers, but I also am not sure when it was updated last.

I could be wrong but I thought Jamie and Brienne were in between Harrenhall and King's Landing. Didn't Robb already arrive at Harrenhall?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I've decided Cersei is the hottest. She looked so GD good last night.

In the books the way they described her I envisioned Heidi Klum. I didn't think Lena Headly Lamar could pull it off. She has. Although I think they should have bleached the eyebrows.

No f'ing way. The blond hair and dark eyebrows is what makes her so damned hot. Wouldn't necessarily work for everyone, but it sure works for her.

She and Emilia both wear wigs for the show. Guess it would take more money to have them bleach their brows to match the wigs.

Neither one of them is nearly as hot with dark hair.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

The introduction of the show is a map which indicates where they are going to be in the episode/season. If you pay attention to where people say they are and are going and pay attention to the opening of the show, you will get a better idea of how vast the realm is and where people are.

We don't know where Theon is right now and we know that Bran is heading North. Jon was last at the Fist of the First men, which is well north of Craster's and the Wall, and he is heading for the wall. Jaime and Brienne are still in the Riverlands and are headed to Harrenhall. Dany is across the Narrow Sea in Astopor.

This is the most complete map there is IMO: http://kevinhatch.com/media/kh-asoiaf.pdf

Now, try not to pay attention to who is listed as holding each place though. They may be spoilers, but I also am not sure when it was updated last.

I could be wrong but I thought Jamie and Brienne were in between Harrenhall and King's Landing. Didn't Robb already arrive at Harrenhall?

Robb got to Harrenhall in episode 1 of this season. Robb then left for River Run, leaving Harrenhall under the control of Roose Bolton. Jaime and Brienne have been captured by Locke, who is apparently Bolton's best hunter. They are returning them to Harrenhall. Jaime initially escaped from somewhere in the West or Riverlands. I'm not sure where.

 

[UniAlias]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

The introduction of the show is a map which indicates where they are going to be in the episode/season. If you pay attention to where people say they are and are going and pay attention to the opening of the show, you will get a better idea of how vast the realm is and where people are.

We don't know where Theon is right now and we know that Bran is heading North. Jon was last at the Fist of the First men, which is well north of Craster's and the Wall, and he is heading for the wall. Jaime and Brienne are still in the Riverlands and are headed to Harrenhall. Dany is across the Narrow Sea in Astopor.

This is the most complete map there is IMO: http://kevinhatch.com/media/kh-asoiaf.pdf

Now, try not to pay attention to who is listed as holding each place though. They may be spoilers, but I also am not sure when it was updated last.

I could be wrong but I thought Jamie and Brienne were in between Harrenhall and King's Landing. Didn't Robb already arrive at Harrenhall?

Robb got to Harrenhall in episode 1 of this season. Robb then left for River Run, leaving Harrenhall under the control of Roose Bolton. Jaime and Brienne have been captured by Locke, who is apparently Bolton's best hunter. They are returning them to Harrenhall. Jaime initially escaped from somewhere in the West or Riverlands. I'm not sure where.

Got it. I misunderstood and was referring to their original itinerary. And for some reason I assumed Locke was taking them back up north rather than Harrenhall.I don't understand why they quit raping Brienne. If money wasn't a persuasive enough factor for Jamie why would it be for her?

 

[ntz08]

Love these books.

There are books? Is there a place we can talk about them?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't understand why they quit raping Brienne. If money wasn't a persuasive enough factor for Jamie why would it be for her?

Presumably they hate Jamie but Brienne is just some big chick they captured. Releasing some random girl in for money is a lot different from committing treason by releasing one of their most hated enemies for money.

 

[Thunderlips]

That last episode had me lost in sections. I don't get wtf happened out with the harem.

4 episodes in this season of ??? episodes and it just doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.

We've got what? 10 plotlines going right now? 2 of which are getting tiring to me (Snow and Bran) to the point where I wouldn't miss it if they just dropped them entirely and never went back there.

6 episodes left and it's starting to weave a little off the rails. JMHO.

really? I think this season has been great. last season seemed to wander a bit before the final 2 episodes.

No the setups are great and acting/directing is great. It's just a bit much and they are running out of time. Quickly.

I read through the recaps a bit and it cleared some things up.

One thing that as a non-book guy I'm having issues with is the geography. It's hard to see where people are relative to eachother and even the direction of travel. About the only indicator you get is desert = south forest = middle snow = north and water = wet. Someone needs to wiki up a map real hard.

The introduction of the show is a map which indicates where they are going to be in the episode/season. If you pay attention to where people say they are and are going and pay attention to the opening of the show, you will get a better idea of how vast the realm is and where people are.

We don't know where Theon is right now and we know that Bran is heading North. Jon was last at the Fist of the First men, which is well north of Craster's and the Wall, and he is heading for the wall. Jaime and Brienne are still in the Riverlands and are headed to Harrenhall. Dany is across the Narrow Sea in Astopor.

This is the most complete map there is IMO: http://kevinhatch.com/media/kh-asoiaf.pdf

Now, try not to pay attention to who is listed as holding each place though. They may be spoilers, but I also am not sure when it was updated last.

I could be wrong but I thought Jamie and Brienne were in between Harrenhall and King's Landing. Didn't Robb already arrive at Harrenhall?

Robb got to Harrenhall in episode 1 of this season. Robb then left for River Run, leaving Harrenhall under the control of Roose Bolton. Jaime and Brienne have been captured by Locke, who is apparently Bolton's best hunter. They are returning them to Harrenhall. Jaime initially escaped from somewhere in the West or Riverlands. I'm not sure where.

Got it. I misunderstood and was referring to their original itinerary. And for some reason I assumed Locke was taking them back up north rather than Harrenhall.I don't understand why they quit raping Brienne. If money wasn't a persuasive enough factor for Jamie why would it be for her?

I know there are certain reasons in the book......But I think that for the show it was a clear case of the Working Class, Blue Collar Kid who never had anything (Locke) putting the Rich, Pampered Spoiled Kid in his place.

 

[Charlie Frown]

In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Perhaps she was partially cast in the role due to the "pig nose".

Maybe so - was this scene in the book?

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In addition to Dany showing her badass side, I also enjoyed the scene where Margery talked about the girl calling her pigface because of her nose. I think it's very interesting that the writers would write a scene about an actresses physical flaw and make her talk about it so candidly.

Yes because that pig nose makes her hidious.

Didn't say she is hideous, but I'm not on board with those who think she's really hot. Maybe in part because I seem to remember being underwhelmed by the average-at-best boobies she showed in The Tudors...

My link

LOL

 

[KarmaPolice]

Maybe I am mixing the mediums, but I was under the impression that loras was part of the kingsgaurd so couldn't marry anyway.

That has not happened on the show.

Was he part of Renly's kingsguard then?

I think what I am doing is mixing up the scenes where Brienne beat him and offered herself to the kingsguard and the scene in season 2 where Loras suggested Joffrey marry his sister. he was in both and I am mashing them together I think.

 

[Brady Marino]

Maybe I am mixing the mediums, but I was under the impression that loras was part of the kingsgaurd so couldn't marry anyway.

That has not happened on the show.

Was he part of Renly's kingsguard then?

I think what I am doing is mixing up the scenes where Brienne beat him and offered herself to the kingsguard and the scene in season 2 where Loras suggested Joffrey marry his sister. he was in both and I am mashing them together I think.

Loras was Renly's ####buddy...not sure about Kingsguard.

 

[Sabertooth]

Well it was called the Rainbow Guard.

 

[Rick James]

Maybe I am mixing the mediums, but I was under the impression that loras was part of the kingsgaurd so couldn't marry anyway.

That has not happened on the show.

Was he part of Renly's kingsguard then?

I think what I am doing is mixing up the scenes where Brienne beat him and offered herself to the kingsguard and the scene in season 2 where Loras suggested Joffrey marry his sister. he was in both and I am mashing them together I think.

Yes Loras was in Renly's Kingsguard ("Rainbow Guard").

 

[Psychopav]

:whitestar:

 

[Sabertooth]

Darkstar?

 

[Arizona Ron]

Love these books.

:reported:

 

[Swing 51]

Darkstar?

Ser Gerold Dayne

 

[Swing 51]

The map helps a lot. I think it's almost necessary, as they really don't bring distance into things in the show. It took Stannis multiple episodes to sail from Dragonstone to King's Landing and apparently they're right next door to each other. Meanwhile Theon went from Pyke to Winterfell during a 10 minute cut-away and they're half the world apart. I also didn't realize how big the continent that Dany is on is. It's even bigger than Westeros yet no one seems to have any interest in ruling it.

Sometimes I feel like they don't play up the gravity of certain things enough on the show. Maybe it's a budget thing but Theon taking Winterfell didn't seem like *that* big of a deal in the show. It just seemed like he kind of slid his way in there into control and when he was thrown out things would go back to normal, except some fires were set by the Bolton's on the way out. Meanwhile, the map describes it as some huge battle where one of the world's most long-standing keeps was obliterated to the point where the entire city is completely gone beyond the point of rebuilding.

Same thing with The Mountain. Book readers seem to be really interested in him as if his storyline is some kind of big deal, but in the show he's had basically two scenes played by two different actors 2 years apart in realtime. As a show watcher I didn't think he was anything other than some one-off minor character and I certainly wasn't keeping track of where his plotline was going.

The mountain (using only what the TV SHOW has offered) is a giant wreckingball, ruthless and sadistic, to the point of crippling his younger brother as only a middle-tween (for only playing with a toy that was long forgotten to him). He was a war "hero" before the age of 20, and as the hound (his brother) described the other day to the lightning lord, was one of the first in roberts rebellion to help in the sacking of kings landing. He also told beric that the brutalitly shown to the Targaryen family was HIM. He raped and killed Rhaegar's wife before killing her infant son by bashing his skull against a wall, and helped in the raping of the daughter before then killing everyone. Beric was assigned to be the one to hunt him down as Ned Stark asked in season one, which led to where he was in the last episode.

Minor correction here. The Mountain first bashed Prince Aegon's head against the wall and then raped Elia (and supposedly had Aegon's blood all over him while doing the raping).

Let's try to keep our baby killing and raping accurate please.

 

[Psychopav]

"Ser"?!? KEEP YOUR FILTHY BOOK LEARNIN' OUTTA THIS THREAD!!

 

[KarmaPolice]

Love these books.

 

[Thunderlips]

The map helps a lot. I think it's almost necessary, as they really don't bring distance into things in the show. It took Stannis multiple episodes to sail from Dragonstone to King's Landing and apparently they're right next door to each other. Meanwhile Theon went from Pyke to Winterfell during a 10 minute cut-away and they're half the world apart. I also didn't realize how big the continent that Dany is on is. It's even bigger than Westeros yet no one seems to have any interest in ruling it. Sometimes I feel like they don't play up the gravity of certain things enough on the show. Maybe it's a budget thing but Theon taking Winterfell didn't seem like *that* big of a deal in the show. It just seemed like he kind of slid his way in there into control and when he was thrown out things would go back to normal, except some fires were set by the Bolton's on the way out. Meanwhile, the map describes it as some huge battle where one of the world's most long-standing keeps was obliterated to the point where the entire city is completely gone beyond the point of rebuilding. Same thing with The Mountain. Book readers seem to be really interested in him as if his storyline is some kind of big deal, but in the show he's had basically two scenes played by two different actors 2 years apart in realtime. As a show watcher I didn't think he was anything other than some one-off minor character and I certainly wasn't keeping track of where his plotline was going.

Think of the Mountain as the Westeros version of The Gooch in Different Strokes. You never see him....but he's a force unlike anything else.