Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[mad sweeney]

I think this is going to be the most entertaining thread for the next 4 weeks...

 

[jamny]

I wish they would have stuck with the scene where Tyrion tells Sansa, with Shea there, about the wedding plans. The lead-up had me laughing and looking forward to hearing how he breaks the news to her.

 

[The Ref]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

 

[The Ref]

I wish they would have stuck with the scene where Tyrion tells Sansa, with Shea there, about the wedding plans. The lead-up had me laughing and looking forward to hearing how he breaks the news to her.

I think it would have been funny if they cut away to the next scene and he had a black eye.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

Have you ever tried reasoning with a pre-teen girl?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

 

[mad sweeney]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

Probably because he doesn't care what she thinks and he knows she can't hurt him.

 

[mad sweeney]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

I probably should get some spoilers off my chest then. Here goes....

 

[ntz08]

When I skim over Gordon Gekko posts, I imagine a crazy homeless man screaming jibberish on a street corner.

My Link.

That guy was more coherent

 

[dparker713]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

 

[culdeus]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

Seems like most providers are charging a minimum for $15 for HBO anymore. No idea what cut of that goes to the provider.

DVD/Blu-ray sales come in on top of that as well. Not to mention the people that sign up for GoT and just don't bother canceling.

 

[mad sweeney]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

I've enjoyed watching episodes more than once, some up to four times. Very little lost entertainment-wise from a first and second showing, and I understand considerably more than I did after the first showing.

 

[Christo]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dparker713" data-cid="15552096" data-time="1367952281">

One of your best posts in a long time, guys.

 

[Mister Martie]

Billboards cost money...I'm going to write that one down so I don't forget.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

Something to consider, the GOT "production" budget is slated at 70 million.

This does not account for the print, dvd and advertising budget.

While HBO gets a ton of free word of mouth, enjoys having GOT as the most pirated show in the world currently, enjoys an established fanbase from the books and gets buzz from all the interviews, merchandising, billboards, commercials, etc, not all of that is free. Commercial time costs money. Ads in magazines cost money. Billboards cost money.

The LOTR Trilogy was shot, for what it was, on the relative cheap, had an established fanbase from the books, had lots of buzz and word of mouth. FOTR had a 40 million dollar print and advertising budget alone. The actual production budget for that film as 110 million. TTT was 50 compared to 94. ROTK was 75 compared to 94. The cost to advertise and market GOT is not cheap.

It's not "just" 70 million per season that HBO needs to recoup.

im with GG

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111

 

[mad sweeney]

Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

Something to consider, the GOT "production" budget is slated at 70 million.

This does not account for the print, dvd and advertising budget.

While HBO gets a ton of free word of mouth, enjoys having GOT as the most pirated show in the world currently, enjoys an established fanbase from the books and gets buzz from all the interviews, merchandising, billboards, commercials, etc, not all of that is free. Commercial time costs money. Ads in magazines cost money. Billboards cost money.

The LOTR Trilogy was shot, for what it was, on the relative cheap, had an established fanbase from the books, had lots of buzz and word of mouth. FOTR had a 40 million dollar print and advertising budget alone. The actual production budget for that film as 110 million. TTT was 50 compared to 94. ROTK was 75 compared to 94. The cost to advertise and market GOT is not cheap.

It's not "just" 70 million per season that HBO needs to recoup.

Another great comparison. The return on investment for the trilogy was so poor they could only squeeze three more movies out of the studio...

 

[Maelstrom]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

I still get it for $10/month - I usually dump HBO after the Newsroom is done, so mid-fall or so, and then re-up just before GoT comes on. So far been enough time between I get the "new subscriber" deal.

With HBO Go and a DVR it is easier than torrenting (and easily worth the $10/month) but torrenting is still pretty easy and very convenient.

 

[mad sweeney]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

I still get it for $10/month - I usually dump HBO after the Newsroom is done, so mid-fall or so, and then re-up just before GoT comes on. So far been enough time between I get the "new subscriber" deal.

With HBO Go and a DVR it is easier than torrenting (and easily worth the $10/month) but torrenting is still pretty easy and very convenient.

$30 seems ridiculous. I wonder what provider charges that much. It's $12 on DirecTV I believe. Torrenting is great, but when I want stuff big and loud on the home system I saved for, I'm not going for a torrent.

 

[babydemon90]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

GoT is my sole reason for being an HBO subscriber....don't mind keeping my tab running while the show is on.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

GoT is my sole reason for being an HBO subscriber....don't mind keeping my tab running while the show is on.

exactly I get HBO for shows i like, Curb, Sopranos, GoT. And i let Dtv know the reason why when I order and when I cancel

 

[mad sweeney]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

GoT is my sole reason for being an HBO subscriber....don't mind keeping my tab running while the show is on.

exactly I get HBO for shows i like, Curb, Sopranos, GoT. And i let Dtv know the reason why when I order and when I cancel

You can usually get something free (or discounts that pay for it) from them every year. I did that with Showtime and Dexter and ended up with a $20/mo credit for a whole year.

 

[Premier]

I can't believe this guy is in here trying to argue that the show is in some kind of danger of being cancelled. Jesus.

 

[mad sweeney]

I can't believe this guy is in here trying to argue that the show is in some kind of danger of being cancelled. Jesus.

After season 5 even...

 

[dparker713]

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="dparker713" data-cid="15552096" data-time="1367952281">

One of your best posts in a long time, guys.

I've got no idea who you're trying to insult here.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

GoT is my sole reason for being an HBO subscriber....don't mind keeping my tab running while the show is on.

exactly I get HBO for shows i like, Curb, Sopranos, GoT. And i let Dtv know the reason why when I order and when I cancel

You can usually get something free (or discounts that pay for it) from them every year. I did that with Showtime and Dexter and ended up with a $20/mo credit for a whole year.

right free cinemax and starz

 

[jamny]

Only 5.3 million people watched the initial airing Sunday, so maybe GG is right.

At what, atleast $10 per month? Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

HBO is like 30 now, chief. Cheap way to do it would be wait to season is over and subscribe and watch all of them on demand then cancel when you finish. On some providers they pro-rate you so you could theoretically watch the entire season in a weekend and pay less than 5 bucks. That's how I caught up with S1. Less of a PITA than torrenting it.

well, people who enjoy the show and want it to complete the story should subscribe instead of being cheap.

GoT is my sole reason for being an HBO subscriber....don't mind keeping my tab running while the show is on.

exactly I get HBO for shows i like, Curb, Sopranos, GoT. And i let Dtv know the reason why when I order and when I cancel

You can usually get something free (or discounts that pay for it) from them every year. I did that with Showtime and Dexter and ended up with a $20/mo credit for a whole year.

I wanted to catch up on Dexter and Homeland for the upcoming season and since the last seasons don't come out on DVD until just before the new ones start, I added Showtime. I have HBO, so they gave me SHO for $5 a month for 6 months without any kind of haggling. With OnDemand, I'll be caught up by time the new seasons start. I don't know how anyone pays $30 a month for it.

 

[jamny]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

 

[aardball44]

 

[derek245583]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Episode 4 was epic imo, but after that I would agree 100% with you.

I am ready for #### to hit the fan

 

[FreeBaGeL]

$30 seems ridiculous. I wonder what provider charges that much. It's $12 on DirecTV I believe. Torrenting is great, but when I want stuff big and loud on the home system I saved for, I'm not going for a torrent.

I pay $15 on DirecTV.

Btw, anyone else out there annoyed that DirecTV does not support HBO Go on Roku? They do on videogame consoles, but not on the Roku. Annoying.

 

[culdeus]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Episode 4 was epic imo, but after that I would agree 100% with you.

I am ready for #### to hit the fan

Again, as a non book reader I see some writing on the wall that they are consolidating the storylines a bit.

-Dany - She's basically done this season. She's geographically too far away to do anything at this point and has uber powers with her. At most a brief cameo check in.

-Sansa - Basically done. Might tie off the wedding scene with tears and be done with it. Nothing more to see.

-Cersi - Same. She's neutralized.

-Littlefinger and no littlefinger - seems they are also done for the season. One is on a boat and the other has no real role in this season.

-Theon - He's tied up and not going anywhere. Can't see this progressing very far.

-Kingslayer - He's unlikely to be much of a factor either.

That leaves

-Rob vs. Castlerly Rock battle?

-Snow goes basejumping then ???? goes to winterfell? What's their gameplan?

-Bran meets up with Snow at the wall???

-Arya and her crew

-Red witch takes the ******* back to ???

Should if nothing else have more action to wrap up the last 4 imo

 

[Swing 51]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Critics only saw the first 4 episodes in advance of us "regular" people.

While most believe book 3 is the best in the series, HBO decided to split book 3 in to 2 seasons.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Every episode of this season is better that 8 of the 10 from last season and episodes 4 and 5 were better than all but Blackwater.

 

[jamny]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Every episode of this season is better that 8 of the 10 from last season and episodes 4 and 5 were better than all but Blackwater.

what about the first season?

I don't pick apart episode vs. episode but at this point I think this season is on par with last season but not as good as the first season. They've set up things really well so I hope for some great episodes to end it and make it the best of the three.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I really liked season 2. I would say that right now season 3 is on par with season 2 in general, but there's no one particular storyline in season 3 that I look forward to seeing new scenes for as I did with Tyrion as hand of the king in season 2. Tywin/Arya scenes were amazing too. Those give the tiebreaker to season 2 for me.

Season 1 was the weakest, imo. Huge Sean Bean fan, but Ned Stark dominating the screen-time with his uber noble obviously-the-good-guy role wasn't nearly as interesting as the last two seasons where you can't really decide who to root for.

 

[jamny]

I really liked season 2. I would say that right now season 3 is on par with season 2 in general, but there's no one particular storyline in season 3 that I look forward to seeing new scenes for as I did with Tyrion as hand of the king in season 2. Tywin/Arya scenes were amazing too. Those give the tiebreaker to season 2 for me.

Season 1 was the weakest, imo. Huge Sean Bean fan, but Ned Stark dominating the screen-time with his uber noble obviously-the-good-guy role wasn't nearly as interesting as the last two seasons where you can't really decide who to root for.

Needs more Joffrey

 

[renesauz]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series.

STOKED

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

?

He did ##### slap him in season 2. During the riot.

The youtube loop of the

##### slap is lol.Didn't they JUST have a scene explaining this is why Tyrion was attacked by a Kings Guard on the Blackwater?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series.

STOKED

Spoiler

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Their budget is $70 mil, and to watch the full season you'd need to sign up for 3 months minimum. So as long as 2.4 million people keep watching over all platforms, its likely a moneymaker.

Something to consider, the GOT "production" budget is slated at 70 million.

This does not account for the print, dvd and advertising budget.

While HBO gets a ton of free word of mouth, enjoys having GOT as the most pirated show in the world currently, enjoys an established fanbase from the books and gets buzz from all the interviews, merchandising, billboards, commercials, etc, not all of that is free. Commercial time costs money. Ads in magazines cost money. Billboards cost money.

The LOTR Trilogy was shot, for what it was, on the relative cheap, had an established fanbase from the books, had lots of buzz and word of mouth. FOTR had a 40 million dollar print and advertising budget alone. The actual production budget for that film as 110 million. TTT was 50 compared to 94. ROTK was 75 compared to 94. The cost to advertise and market GOT is not cheap.

It's not "just" 70 million per season that HBO needs to recoup.

lol

seriously, who has this alias now? Dumb and dumber.

 

[CBusAlex]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

?

He did ##### slap him in season 2. During the riot.

The youtube loop of the

Tywin, not Tyrion.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I am still waiting.... as I have been since the start of season 2.... for Tywin to #####slap Joffery, or to at least try. He keeps breaking everyones chops that they cant control him and yet they are never on screen together and he is the on location Hand of the King.

One other thing... it's obvious Aria wants the Hound Dead... why didnt he tell her about the fact that he save her sisters ### a few times?

?

He did ##### slap him in season 2. During the riot.

The youtube loop of the

TYWIN



still like reposting the tyrion slaps. always good times.

 

[culdeus]

How much % in the 3rd book are they?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

How much % in the 3rd book are they?

Depends on the person

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm enjoying the show and look forward to it each week but before this season began there were critics and others who have read the books that were saying this season would blow the previous two away. We're now 6 episodes in with 4 remaining and while it's been good, I don't think it's been far and away better than the first two seasons. The storylines progress so slowly.

Every episode of this season is better that 8 of the 10 from last season and episodes 4 and 5 were better than all but Blackwater.

what about the first season?

I don't pick apart episode vs. episode but at this point I think this season is on par with last season but not as good as the first season. They've set up things really well so I hope for some great episodes to end it and make it the best of the three.

it all rocks, but in the middle of season2 it seemed to get bogged down a little bit.

 

[Thunderlips]

How much % in the 3rd book are they?

The Theo stuff is actually from the 5th book.

Most of the others; about 2/5th....

 

[Mjolnirs]

Again, as a non book reader I see some writing on the wall that they are consolidating the storylines a bit. -Dany - She's basically done this season. She's geographically too far away to do anything at this point and has uber powers with her. At most a brief cameo check in.-Sansa - Basically done. Might tie off the wedding scene with tears and be done with it. Nothing more to see.-Cersi - Same. She's neutralized.-Littlefinger and no littlefinger - seems they are also done for the season. One is on a boat and the other has no real role in this season.-Theon - He's tied up and not going anywhere. Can't see this progressing very far. -Kingslayer - He's unlikely to be much of a factor either. That leaves -Rob vs. Castlerly Rock battle?-Snow goes basejumping then ???? goes to winterfell? What's their gameplan?-Bran meets up with Snow at the wall???-Arya and her crew-Red witch takes the ******* back to ??? Should if nothing else have more action to wrap up the last 4 imo

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