Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[parrot]

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Not sure but I don't think so. Who told Ned, was it Varys?

Or Littlefinger? I can't remember who told him about Jon Arryn looking into them before his death.

Grand Maester Pycell gave Ned the lineage book that Jon was borrowing when he died.

Littlefinger advised him to visit the armory where Gendry was employed.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Also, not trying to be a jerk about it but it feels like some can't wait to divulge what's about to or not about to happen. Even saying things like "from reading the books, things are about to get crazy this episode" is something of a giveaway. There should be almost no need for spoilers in here because as far as this thread goes, the books don't exist. There is a separate thread to discuss the books

Deleted my post, although I didn't post anything that hadn't already been posted 1,000 times in this thread already. Carry on

 

[sn0mm1s]

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Not sure but I don't think so. Who told Ned, was it Varys?

Or Littlefinger? I can't remember who told him about Jon Arryn looking into them before his death.

Grand Maester Pycell gave Ned the lineage book that Jon was borrowing when he died.

Littlefinger advised him to visit the armory where Gendry was employed.

In the books, Ned figured it out for himself once he read the lineage book given to him by Pycelle. It is implied that Littlefinger dropped hints to Stannis and Jon Arryn about Gendry in a conversation between Varys and Tyrion. Littlefinger also shows Ned the ******* baby in the brothel.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

 

[Hodor]

After the dracarys scene/speech in the town square, nobody is gonna tell me Dany isn't an excellent actress. She spoke gibberish while trading a dragon for an army of castrated, often nipple-less soldiers, and nailed itAlso, not trying to be a jerk about it but it feels like some can't wait to divulge what's about to or not about to happen. Even saying things like "from reading the books, things are about to get crazy this episode" is something of a giveaway. There should be almost no need for spoilers in here because as far as this thread goes, the books don't exist. There is a separate thread to discuss the books

Exactly. So annoying

Reminds me of when I DVR a sports game and my wife will look up the outcome and then say things like "don't worry" or "don't get too excited." drives me bananas.

 

[Swing 51]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

HBO supposedly had hired an actor to play Aerys II and season 1 was going to flash back to the "trial" of Brandon and Rickard Stark. Robert's Rebellion began after the "trial".

 

[biggamer3]

After the dracarys scene/speech in the town square, nobody is gonna tell me Dany isn't an excellent actress. She spoke gibberish while trading a dragon for an army of castrated, often nipple-less soldiers, and nailed itAlso, not trying to be a jerk about it but it feels like some can't wait to divulge what's about to or not about to happen. Even saying things like "from reading the books, things are about to get crazy this episode" is something of a giveaway. There should be almost no need for spoilers in here because as far as this thread goes, the books don't exist. There is a separate thread to discuss the books

Exactly. So annoying

Reminds me of when I DVR a sports game and my wife will look up the outcome and then say things like "don't worry" or "don't get too excited." drives me bananas.

OMG worst thing ever. I hate when family members will tell me such things and after i go nuts on them they say "i'm only kidding, i dont know what happened" then you have no idea what to believe and any little 6-0 run in a basketball game you assume will turn into a 20-0 run.

 

[biggamer3]

haha, if the TV peeps were allowed to totally deviate from the books and kept Ned alive, how much different would this show be by now?

 

[babydemon90]

haha, if the TV peeps were allowed to totally deviate from the books and kept Ned alive, how much different would this show be by now?

if he took the black and went to the wall? Probably not significantly. If Littlefinger and the goldcloaks had supported him instead of Cersei? Significantly.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

HBO supposedly had hired an actor to play Aerys II and season 1 was going to flash back to the "trial" of Brandon and Rickard Stark. Robert's Rebellion began after the "trial".

I really hope we get something like that someday and the battle at the tower of joy, but I feel like at best it would be in the final seasons to fill us in on some holes we don't know about yet, even in the books.

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Bastards don't count in the line of succession (at least not when there are true born children or siblings). If you consider Robert the "true king" (since he did take the throne by force after all) then Stanis is the rightful heir as his oldest living brother. (since all the acknowledged kids are actually Jamie's)

Hmm, I believe you are correct. But why did Cersei have all of his bastards killed in season 1 if that was the case? Maybe to get rid of the evidence?

It wasn't Cersei, it was Joffrey that ordered the bastards killed.

 

[Ilov80s]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

I am pretty sure the rumor of prequel GoT is out there. Martin did sign on with HBO to create another show.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Bastards don't count in the line of succession (at least not when there are true born children or siblings). If you consider Robert the "true king" (since he did take the throne by force after all) then Stanis is the rightful heir as his oldest living brother. (since all the acknowledged kids are actually Jamie's)

Hmm, I believe you are correct. But why did Cersei have all of his bastards killed in season 1 if that was the case? Maybe to get rid of the evidence?

It wasn't Cersei, it was Joffrey that ordered the bastards killed.

I always assumed it was Cersei. Was it explicitly shown to have been Joffrey?

 

[Ilov80s]

I don't think Edmure will go through with the wedding and that will hurt Robb's chances in battle. If a big name is going to die, I think it'll be Robb Stark.I also think Tywin has pushed too hard and will not survive the season. Sersei or Tyrion (or both) will plot against him. Really interested to see how Robert's ******* son plays into all of this, especially in the hands of the witch.

GREAT call on Tywin - I hadn't thought of it, but I'd definitely go that route if I were one of his kids.Really curious to see what happens with Robert's ******* as well. Didn't the redhead priestess say something like "You will make and destroy kings" to him?? What's that all about? "Make kings" is a weird thing to say to the son of the king you're aligned with...

I actually forgot who he was until she said that and took him away.

He's not Stannis' son. He's the ******* of Robert. So, I think technically, he's the rightful king and Stannis wouldn't want to get rid of him. But does Stannis even know about him?

Bastards don't count in the line of succession (at least not when there are true born children or siblings). If you consider Robert the "true king" (since he did take the throne by force after all) then Stanis is the rightful heir as his oldest living brother. (since all the acknowledged kids are actually Jamie's)

Hmm, I believe you are correct. But why did Cersei have all of his bastards killed in season 1 if that was the case? Maybe to get rid of the evidence?

It wasn't Cersei, it was Joffrey that ordered the bastards killed.

I always assumed it was Cersei. Was it explicitly shown to have been Joffrey?

There was a scene later where Tyron confronts Cersei about killing the babies and she won't deny it, which he then pretty much deduces that it wasn't her that gave the order. It was sublte and not an explicit confession, but I think it was suppossed to help us see that Cersei had totally lost control of Joffrey. It came right after he had confronted Cersei about "the disgusting rumor" he had heard about her and "Uncle Jamie". It also pretty revealed that Joffrey might actually know he is a fraud king.

 

[Amused to Death]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series. STOKED

 

[shadyridr]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series. STOKED

I'm guessing the last 2 episodes of this season will leave the non-book crowd

can we ####in stop with this #### already

 

[Amused to Death]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series. STOKED

I'm guessing the last 2 episodes of this season will leave the non-book crowd

can we ####in stop with this #### already

Sorry, I don't know how to use spoilers. But this season has been touted as possibly one of the best and that's no secret.

 

[mad sweeney]

Just letting y'all know that the book readers are having a blast lurking in this thread, reading some of the wacky conjectures. Stuff will be hitting the fan very soon, and chances are this season will be remembered as the best season of the entire series. STOKED

I'm guessing the last 2 episodes of this season will leave the non-book crowd

can we ####in stop with this #### already

 

[Tremendous Upside]

When ALF shows up with his fellow aliens, the TV watchers are going to #### themselves

 

[Homer J Simpson]

When ALF shows up with his fellow aliens, the TV watchers are going to #### themselves

Well thanks for ruining it, jackhole!!!

 

[mad sweeney]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role.

To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see.

In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one.

It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

What tipped you off? All the times Tywin blamed Tyrion for his wife's death?

 

[Swing 51]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

I think what fuels Tywin's anger was action Aerys II did and did not take. Refused to marry Cersai to Rhaegar. Named Jamie to the Kingsguard which meant Tywin had no proper heir. Etc.

 

[culdeus]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role.

To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see.

In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one.

It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

see, they need to get into this part of the story, why didnt tywin re-marry (if I recall didnt he marry his cousin)? What happend with Tyrions first wife?

Why did the mad king make Jamie the kingsguard? was is to screw with Tywin or did he want the best swordsman in the land protecting him?

not only did Ned lose his brother & father, but his sister was killed and his other brother took the black.

 

[parrot]

By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family.

Not really sure what you're getting at here; Brandon Stark was betrothed to Catelynn Tully before he was killed, and Ned ended up marrying her, so the Tully family was the first choice to help "secure the family". I guess if you're saying that they lost the opportunity for Ned to marry into another major family, that's true enough, but that potential was still there until Benjen took the black.

 

[culdeus]

If they did another series I would rather them cover whatever the hell happened to get to the point where they needed a giant ice wall.

Just rolling back the clock 100 years or so seems too much like the Star Wars new trilogy. When you already know how they got from A->B sometimes the journey isn't all that interesting.

 

[bonesman]

Just rolling back the clock 100 years or so seems too much like the Star Wars new trilogy. When you already know how they got from A->B sometimes the journey isn't all that interesting.

Maybe, but the Targaryen bloodline and their reign is one of the most interesting parts of the books and it's all historical.

 

[The Gator]

Just rolling back the clock 100 years or so seems too much like the Star Wars new trilogy. When you already know how they got from A->B sometimes the journey isn't all that interesting.

Maybe, but the Targaryen bloodline and their reign is one of the most interesting parts of the books and it's all historical.

Want Rhaegar stories!

 

[Thunderlips]

When ALF shows up with his fellow aliens, the TV watchers are going to #### themselves

Yeah....but when Coach Dewey Stevens and the Harlem Globetrotters show up on a life raft from the Summer Isles and Joffrey forces them to play a basketball game....the #### is really going to hit the fan!

 

[Thunderlips]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role. To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see. In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one. It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

see, they need to get into this part of the story, why didnt tywin re-marry (if I recall didnt he marry his cousin)? What happend with Tyrions first wife? Why did the mad king make Jamie the kingsguard? was is to screw with Tywin or did he want the best swordsman in the land protecting him? not only did Ned lose his brother & father, but his sister was killed and his other brother took the black.

The Mad King did it to spite Tywin (as Tywin threatened the Tyrell) and because he wanted a sort of prisoner in case Tywin (his Hand) joined Roberts Rebellion.

 

[mad sweeney]

Just rolling back the clock 100 years or so seems too much like the Star Wars new trilogy. When you already know how they got from A->B sometimes the journey isn't all that interesting.

Maybe, but the Targaryen bloodline and their reign is one of the most interesting parts of the books and it's all historical.

Want Rhaegar stories!

Not necessarily this one (but not necessarily not) but the back stories for a lot if the characters is still being revealed or expected to be revealed in the books. No way can they do a prequel series until the books are finished without either spoiling half the characters for the last books or just leaving half of them out of the prequels. I think a Mad King era series would be awesome. Whoever mentioned The Wall formation, that's thousand(s) of years probably and again runs the risk if revealing things about Walkers and other critters that may be important to the book endings. However, it'd be a lot less revealing than going back 20 years.

 

[mad sweeney]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role. To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see. In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one. It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

see, they need to get into this part of the story, why didnt tywin re-marry (if I recall didnt he marry his cousin)? What happend with Tyrions first wife? Why did the mad king make Jamie the kingsguard? was is to screw with Tywin or did he want the best swordsman in the land protecting him? not only did Ned lose his brother & father, but his sister was killed and his other brother took the black.

The Mad King did it to spite Tywin (as Tywin threatened the Tyrell) and because he wanted a sort of prisoner in case Tywin (his Hand) joined Roberts Rebellion.

Which he did, but only when it was clear that Robert would win. Same with Frey (hence the nickname The Late Lord Frey that he hates). With how quick houses switch allegiances (Tyrells went from Renly to Stannus to Lannuster in like 2 episodes) its amazing there was ever any cohesion even under Robert.

 

[parrot]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role. To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see. In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one. It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

see, they need to get into this part of the story, why didnt tywin re-marry (if I recall didnt he marry his cousin)? What happend with Tyrions first wife? Why did the mad king make Jamie the kingsguard? was is to screw with Tywin or did he want the best swordsman in the land protecting him? not only did Ned lose his brother & father, but his sister was killed and his other brother took the black.

The Mad King did it to spite Tywin (as Tywin threatened the Tyrell) and because he wanted a sort of prisoner in case Tywin (his Hand) joined Roberts Rebellion.

Jaime was named to the Kingsguard during the Tourney at Harenhall, which was the same time and place that the event's eventually leading to Robert's Rebellion - namely Rhaegar apparently becoming infatuated with Lyanna Stark - occurred . So while Aerys may have partially wanted Jaime to help keep Tywin in line, it wasn't to keep him from joining the rebellion, because it hadn't started yet.

 

[Gr00vus]

So, this is the non-book thread?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So, this is the non-book thread?

more like a back-story thread right now.

I think most of what we have discussed has been talked about in the show. no real spoilers

sorry for the hijack, just thought a roberts rebellion show would be cool too

 

[Sabertooth]

Non book is non book. Let all these whiners figure it out for themselves. I laugh because they ##### about spoiler but then ask for context.

Yep, the guy torturing Theon is exactly who he said he was. Sent from his sister. That's what he said right? Must be true.

 

[Thunderlips]

what would be cool, I know they have to finish this story in like 7 more seasons first, and Im sure they wont ever do it but what if they made another series about roberts rebellion and the fall of the targaryens?

There were some industry rumors that when Charlize Theron offered to play a role on GOT for free ( well not for free, but for minimum rate), that HBO execs asked Benioff and Weiss if they could shoehorn her into a small cameo. I think the role of Lyanna Stark was on the table for discussion, as it would be a flashback/non series regular role. To my understanding Seth Green tried very hard to get a role on the show. Lots of celebrities are GOT diehards. The problem of course is a celebrity who is too well known would be jarring for the audience to see. In probably the saddest bit of casting news, apparently Amanda Peet has been lobbying hard for a role at some point and some time and there's a chance she might get one. It's interesting though, within the culture of the universe, that Ned Stark and Robert Baretheon were probably better suited to be bannermen themselves. Ned only took Winterfell because of the line of succession made it so. By having Neds father and older brother burn, the Starks lost the political capital of having Ned marry a politically reliable choice to secure the family. I think this also keys into the fuel for Tywin's anger at Tyrion. Not only was he seen as an embarrassment, but the death of his wife meant there would be no more sons or daughters to marry off as political capital.

see, they need to get into this part of the story, why didnt tywin re-marry (if I recall didnt he marry his cousin)? What happend with Tyrions first wife? Why did the mad king make Jamie the kingsguard? was is to screw with Tywin or did he want the best swordsman in the land protecting him? not only did Ned lose his brother & father, but his sister was killed and his other brother took the black.

The Mad King did it to spite Tywin (as Tywin threatened the Tyrell) and because he wanted a sort of prisoner in case Tywin (his Hand) joined Roberts Rebellion.

Jaime was named to the Kingsguard during the Tourney at Harenhall, which was the same time and place that the event's eventually leading to Robert's Rebellion - namely Rhaegar apparently becoming infatuated with Lyanna Stark - occurred . So while Aerys may have partially wanted Jaime to help keep Tywin in line, it wasn't to keep him from joining the rebellion, because it hadn't started yet.

My bad....not Roberts specifically....but Tywin did leave Kings Landing to go back to Casterly Rock. The Mad King thought he might be plotting against him.

 

[Gr00vus]

So, this is the non-book thread?

more like a back-story thread right now.

I think most of what we have discussed has been talked about in the show. no real spoilers

sorry for the hijack, just thought a roberts rebellion show would be cool too

After the last few posts lost track of which thread I was in and was about to ask a question that really belongs in one of the book threads.

I think you're right though, there's tons of previous events and years that would make great shows.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Non book is non book. Let all these whiners figure it out for themselves. I laugh because they ##### about spoiler but then ask for context.

Yep, the guy torturing Theon is exactly who he said he was. Sent from his sister. That's what he said right? Must be true.

As a non-bookreading show-watcher, I agree with this. Can't have it both ways.

 

[jamny]

I welcome the backstory that helps to understand how the show got to where it is.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

She's married to David Benioff

 

[mad sweeney]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

She's married to David Benioff

My gods, no wonder he wants to be off on a glacier for weeks/months. I've never worked with her but I have heard nothing but bad stories about her attitude and demeanor on set.

 

[EYLive]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

She's married to David Benioff

My gods, no wonder he wants to be off on a glacier for weeks/months. I've never worked with her but I have heard nothing but bad stories about her attitude and demeanor on set.

I hope the producers don't cave in. This is like Lucy begging Ricky to let her be in his show. Pathetic.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

She's married to David Benioff

My gods, no wonder he wants to be off on a glacier for weeks/months. I've never worked with her but I have heard nothing but bad stories about her attitude and demeanor on set.

I hope the producers don't cave in. This is like Lucy begging Ricky to let her be in his show. Pathetic.

make her a hooker

 

[Christo]

Amanda Peet? Really? She get some more work done on her up tops she wants to show off?

She's married to David Benioff

My gods, no wonder he wants to be off on a glacier for weeks/months. I've never worked with her but I have heard nothing but bad stories about her attitude and demeanor on set.

I hope the producers don't cave in. This is like Lucy begging Ricky to let her be in his show. Pathetic.

make her a hooker

Joffrey probably has some extra arrows.

 

[Sabertooth]

I welcome the backstory that helps to understand how the show got to where it is.

But the books don't exist in this thread.

 

[Barry]

I'd love to feed A Peete some Arby's.

 

[Christo]

I'd love to feed A Peete some Arby's.

Slathered in Horsey Sauce! Oh, hell yeah.

 

[dparker713]

I welcome the backstory that helps to understand how the show got to where it is.

But the books don't exist in this thread.

Yet somehow people keep referencing them in this thread.

 

[Runningman]

I welcome the backstory that helps to understand how the show got to where it is.

But the books don't exist in this thread.

Yet somehow people keep referencing them in this thread.

Pretend it is an oral history.