Game of Thrones on HBO: non-book thread (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

Does Bran take this mind control all the way to the throne? Would love to see him controlling Tywin. Or turning the dragons against Danny. Tons of possibilities.

so far, all it looks like he can do is put people to sleep...

And attack in wolf form.

Who needs legs when you can take the control of direwolves?

I think that as Bran hones his power, he'll just take control of tavern wenches and have have sex with his own limp warged-out body.

The ultimate form of masturbation.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also, despite how horrid the wedding turned out, there were some hilarious moments. The guy playing Fray just killed it. Between that and the wedding the week before, it was an amazing blend of comedy and grief.

 

[EYLive]

Minor gripe: the knife that slit Cat's throat was an inch below where the blood sprayed out.

 

[Ilov80s]

There are some interesting interviews with the actors and writers about this episode. One of them said they filmed the wedding chronologically so that the actors could fully feel the weight of the events as it progressed.

Also, this show just cements that this is the Wire of fantasy. It is dark, realistic, never takes the cliched way out, and ultimately it is about the realm, not any individual characters.

Final random thought, I had heard the Red Wedding was a total soulf#%&. I was very worried last week was the Red Wedding and that Tyrion was going to be killed. As bad as this was, thank god it wasn't Tyrion that died.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

 

[Chadstroma]

Robb Stark may be the biggest #### up of all time. Every decision he made was impulsive, selfish and ultimately led to the death of his kin and bannermen, as well as the Stark war effort.You have to think the Starks have taken the last of their beatings. At least the remaining members aren't morons.

Please, retire the account or hand it to someone else. K, thx. Bye.

In fairness, he is quoting a post that is dead on. Robb was the suck.

Robb started out with a force that was less than half of his enemies forces. Managed to destroy half of that force and followed it up with several other victories putting his enemy on the ropes. Perhaps if not for House Tyrell joining the Lannisters and then later losing the Karstarks- things would be different. It seems to me that Robb was an excellent military leader. There may be other weaknesses (as pretty much everyone has) but I don't see how you take that from him.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I'd rather read a GoT blog written by GG than read you guys endlessly arguing about spoiler tags and such.

They should settle the argument like they do on GoT.

 

[Ilov80s]

Also, Google thd Black Dinner, it was the historic inspiration for the Red Wedding. Essentially, the powerful Douglas Brothers were invited to dine with thd 10 year old Scottish King. After dinner, they were given a mock trials and despite the young King's pleas, the head of a black bull was dropped on the table to signify death. The brothers were then beheaded.

 

[zoonation]

Robb Stark may be the biggest #### up of all time. Every decision he made was impulsive, selfish and ultimately led to the death of his kin and bannermen, as well as the Stark war effort.You have to think the Starks have taken the last of their beatings. At least the remaining members aren't morons.

Please, retire the account or hand it to someone else. K, thx. Bye.

In fairness, he is quoting a post that is dead on. Robb was the suck.

Robb started out with a force that was less than half of his enemies forces. Managed to destroy half of that force and followed it up with several other victories putting his enemy on the ropes. Perhaps if not for House Tyrell joining the Lannisters and then later losing the Karstarks- things would be different. It seems to me that Robb was an excellent military leader. There may be other weaknesses (as pretty much everyone has) but I don't see how you take that from him.

I can see that I guess. The thing is he made catastrophic strategic decisions that were rooted in his own self interest and not that of those he meant to rule. He got his ### handed to him from 2000 miles away. A great war general...okay. A terrible King. He was ill-suited from the get go. Too inexperienced.

 

[shuke]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

History of what?

 

[Ilov80s]

Robb Stark may be the biggest #### up of all time. Every decision he made was impulsive, selfish and ultimately led to the death of his kin and bannermen, as well as the Stark war effort.You have to think the Starks have taken the last of their beatings. At least the remaining members aren't morons.

Please, retire the account or hand it to someone else. K, thx. Bye.

In fairness, he is quoting a post that is dead on. Robb was the suck.

Robb started out with a force that was less than half of his enemies forces. Managed to destroy half of that force and followed it up with several other victories putting his enemy on the ropes. Perhaps if not for House Tyrell joining the Lannisters and then later losing the Karstarks- things would be different. It seems to me that Robb was an excellent military leader. There may be other weaknesses (as pretty much everyone has) but I don't see how you take that from him.

I can see that I guess. The thing is he made catastrophic strategic decisions that were rooted in his own self interest and not that of those he meant to rule. He got his ### handed to him from 2000 miles away. A great war general...okay. A terrible King. He was ill-suited from the get go. Too inexperienced.

The scene where Robb beheaded his bannerman was amazing. It was raining and the music was the same as the scene in S2 where Theon beheads the Stark guy with the awesome beard. The two scenes were really similar. The efficiency in the killings was reflective of the heart of the two. Robb was a confident man, Theon was a shook boy. Still, it was the downfall for both. They sealed their fates with those moves. Both lost their truest and most important allies with that move. Both did it because they thought it was what their fathers would have done.

 

[zoonation]

Even Ned Stark wouldn't have broken that promise to marry for love. I think that was his biggest and most selfish mistake.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

History of what?

Noob.

 

[dickey moe]

The violence is too tame to be historically accurate but I'll tune in as long as they have fire-breathing dragons.

History of what?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I don't care either way because I usually just ask my fiancée about what's going on with the show/books, but I don't understand why book readers post in this thread at all when there is a perfectly good one for them. It's baffling.

It's not perfectly good. The thread started by a fan of the series requires spoiler tags for anything past where the TV show is because 2 years is too short of a time to assume people read the latest book. Petition the other thread to lift the spoiler reqs and maybe we'll flee this thread.

Wait, unpack this for me.

It makes no sense. Your gripe with the other thread is that you have to use spoiler tags for the stuff beyond where the TV show is? You have to do the same thing here, so how is it any better?

Only here, you get us TV only guys constantly complaining about you, and you have to deal with us dullards who can't comprehend the super obvious stuff that you book readers pick up on like it was written out in plain text (since for you, it already was). What is the advantage to being in this thread over that one? What do you guys get out of even posting in this thread at all, other than the knowledge that your pissing all the non book readers off on a consistent basis?

 

[Abrantes]

Several of the book readers don't seem to get what this thread is all about, but this thread territorialism is up there with the silliest things I've seen in the FFA.

 

[EYLive]

I like Maisie Williams, but I think she benefits from playing a more likable character (and maybe an easier part), so viewers tend to exagerate her acting ability. Meanwhile Sophie Turner's performances are underrated and her character's subtleties go unnoticed.

Sansa's walking a tightrope that few people appreciate.

 

[belljr]

so i gather it was called the red wedding in the books?

its ok to answer that....

 

[jamny]

I get that the song was a cue to Frey that everything was ready but it wasn't noticed by anyone except Kat and even she sat down to listen to Frey's speech after they stopped playing it. She had the idea that something was up but she wasn't that alarmed. I almost wish they would have begun the carnage as soon as she recognized the song. When the guard closed the door and she looked up at the band, I said that they must be playing the Lannister song (even if I didn't recognize it) The brief stop and Freys speech gave me time to realize that this must be the carnage everyone (book readers) talked about. No one is safe! I knew right away they would all die. Nice try by Kat but there was no way Frey was letting any of them go.

I thought Frey saying "The King in the North arises" was such a brutal line right there. The guy playing Frey was perfect.

 

[shadyridr]

so i gather it was called the red wedding in the books?its ok to answer that....

well it wasnt called the red wedding in the show so what do you think?

 

[KarmaPolice]

but this thread territorialism is up there with the silliest things I've seen in the FFA.

it really has gotten ridiculous.

 

[Sinn Fein]

so i gather it was called the red wedding in the books?its ok to answer that....

well it wasnt called the red wedding in the show so what do you think?

Well, to be fair, it was not called the Red Wedding until afterwards in the book.

 

[Sinn Fein]

but this thread territorialism is up there with the silliest things I've seen in the FFA.

it really has gotten ridiculous.

Fantasy TV shows, that may, or may not, be based on a series of books, one of which bears the name of said TV show - is serious business.

Its sort of like a thread about the movie The Titanic, but not wanting to know if the ship sinks in the movie.

 

[Psychopav]

I thought Frey saying "The King in the North arises" was such a brutal line right there. The guy playing Frey was perfect.

He was even better as Filch in those Harry Potter movies.

 

[jamny]

I thought Frey saying "The King in the North arises" was such a brutal line right there. The guy playing Frey was perfect.

He was even better as Filch in those Harry Potter movies.

I never saw any Harry Potter movies but I guess that helped get him this part then. Great character.

 

[jamny]

Why did Jon knock Ygritte down instead of letting her shoot redbeard with an arrow?

 

[(HULK)]

FYI, not sure if its been said, but the song is the Reigns of Castmere, not the Rains. Its about House Reign's downfall to the Lannisters imo

 

[Sinn Fein]

FYI, not sure if its been said, but the song is the Reigns of Castmere, not the Rains. Its about House Reign's downfall to the Lannisters imo

“She did not answer him. Instead she went after Edwyn Frey. The players in the gallery had finally gotten both king and queen down to their name-day suits. With scarcely a moment’s respite, they began to play a very different sort of song. No one sang the words, but Catelyn knew “The Rains of Castamere” when she heard it. Edwyn was hurrying toward a door. She hurried faster, driven by the music. Six quick strides and she caught him. And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? She grabbed Edwyn by the arm to turn him and went cold all over when she felt the iron rings beneath his silken sleeve.”

 

[(HULK)]

Lol, I even spelled it wrong. Its House Reynes.

Seeing, SF's post, I guess I'm wrong.

 

[Bonzai]

but this thread territorialism is up there with the silliest things I've seen in the FFA.

it really has gotten ridiculous.

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

Looks like we need to just go ahead and shut this one down.

 

[TobiasFunke]

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

Looks like we need to just go ahead and shut this one down.

When there's a big episode I kind of skim this thread just to see what people are saying and scroll down or close it as soon as I see the word "book." But mostly I just read the spoiler-free episode reviews by Sepinwall and Andy Greenwald and stop there. It kinda sucks, but I don't think you can have a discussion in an internet forum about this show. I mean, you're asking people who read a series of fantasy books not to act like know-it-alls on the internet. That's like asking the birds not to fly and the fish not to swim.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Why did Jon knock Ygritte down instead of letting her shoot redbeard with an arrow?

He was outnumbered. He was probably the best young swordsman on the Watch because of his training as a Stark, under real knights. But he wasn't a Barristan Selmy type swordsman. I suspect he saw the act as saving her life. And not having her fall to his fate because it was clear she would defend him.

If he takes her with him, the best she will ever be is a prisoner. Or a target by the Wildings. Leaving her, she has a chance to consider what he said and desert, or if the opportunity arose, pretend to be someone else and be spared. Clearly if he himself would be hesitant to kill a young girl, so would others.

It is hard to see what Ygritte would like in Jon other than his looks because Kit Harrington is IMHO an atrocious actor. He's banging the actress in real life and he still can't generate any chemistry with her from his end.

But she fought them anyway. All it did was delay her getting her first shot off and save red-beard guy, who is now the only one left and is chasing him down.

 

[The Ref]

39 pages for the first 28 episodes. 10 for this last one.

Guess it was a good episode.

 

[jamny]

Why did Jon knock Ygritte down instead of letting her shoot redbeard with an arrow?

He was outnumbered. He was probably the best young swordsman on the Watch because of his training as a Stark, under real knights. But he wasn't a Barristan Selmy type swordsman. I suspect he saw the act as saving her life. And not having her fall to his fate because it was clear she would defend him.

If he takes her with him, the best she will ever be is a prisoner. Or a target by the Wildings. Leaving her, she has a chance to consider what he said and desert, or if the opportunity arose, pretend to be someone else and be spared. Clearly if he himself would be hesitant to kill a young girl, so would others.

It is hard to see what Ygritte would like in Jon other than his looks because Kit Harrington is IMHO an atrocious actor. He's banging the actress in real life and he still can't generate any chemistry with her from his end.

But she fought them anyway. All it did was delay her getting her first shot off and save red-beard guy, who is now the only one left and is chasing him down.

yeah, if anything it put her in more danger of being killed. Unless that was the plan. Get rid of her now. I think by seeing the wolves he must have thought his brothers were nearby and just wanted to get away to gather himself.

Didn't know that Jon and Ygritte were together IRL.

 

[shadyridr]

FYI, not sure if its been said, but the song is the Reigns of Castmere, not the Rains. Its about House Reign's downfall to the Lannisters imo

>“She did not answer him. Instead she went after Edwyn Frey. The players in the gallery had finally gotten both king and queen down to their name-day suits. With scarcely a moment’s respite, they began to play a very different sort of song. No one sang the words, but Catelyn knew “The Rains of Castamere” when she heard it. Edwyn was hurrying toward a door. She hurried faster, driven by the music. Six quick strides and she caught him. And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? She grabbed Edwyn by the arm to turn him and went cold all over when she felt the iron rings beneath his silken sleeve.”

OH GREAT! BOOK EXCERPTS!

 

[B-Deep]

the book readers vs non book readers fight is entertaining.

i want more of that

 

[B-Deep]

but this thread territorialism is up there with the silliest things I've seen in the FFA.

it really has gotten ridiculous.

It's a really good show. I don't want anyone to screw it up for me. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

Looks like we need to just go ahead and shut this one down.

if it is still really good then up to this point no one has spoiled it, i would assumepoint bookies

 

[B-Deep]

FYI, not sure if its been said, but the song is the Reigns of Castmere, not the Rains. Its about House Reign's downfall to the Lannisters imo

>“She did not answer him. Instead she went after Edwyn Frey. The players in the gallery had finally gotten both king and queen down to their name-day suits. With scarcely a moment’s respite, they began to play a very different sort of song. No one sang the words, but Catelyn knew “The Rains of Castamere” when she heard it. Edwyn was hurrying toward a door. She hurried faster, driven by the music. Six quick strides and she caught him. And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low? She grabbed Edwyn by the arm to turn him and went cold all over when she felt the iron rings beneath his silken sleeve.”

OH GREAT! BOOK EXCERPTS!

yeah, book excerpts in a non book thread is sillypoint non bookies

 

[B-Deep]

http://static.footballguys.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/confused1.gif

Was curious what people thought about tonight's episode, but I can't find the thread.

Did I totally miss the gay love affair between Loras and Renly while reading the books?

non book thread was started by a bookienot even sure how to score that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kYtajG0ttU

 

[Usual21]

Moved to book thread.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

If anyone has the Audiobook for ASoS, can you point out on what disk the red wedding happens? I've found it in the eBook, but the actor who reads the books is really good and I'd like to listen to it on the way to and from work. TIA

Be sure not to post this in the non-audio book thread.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I just wish the Freys had invited Gordon Gekko to the wedding.

 

[B-Deep]

If anyone has the Audiobook for ASoS, can you point out on what disk the red wedding happens? I've found it in the eBook, but the actor who reads the books is really good and I'd like to listen to it on the way to and from work. TIA

Be sure not to post this in the non-audio book thread.

 

[Psychopav]

Why did Jon knock Ygritte down instead of letting her shoot redbeard with an arrow?

He was outnumbered. He was probably the best young swordsman on the Watch because of his training as a Stark, under real knights. But he wasn't a Barristan Selmy type swordsman. I suspect he saw the act as saving her life. And not having her fall to his fate because it was clear she would defend him.

If he takes her with him, the best she will ever be is a prisoner. Or a target by the Wildings. Leaving her, she has a chance to consider what he said and desert, or if the opportunity arose, pretend to be someone else and be spared. Clearly if he himself would be hesitant to kill a young girl, so would others.

It is hard to see what Ygritte would like in Jon other than his looks because Kit Harrington is IMHO an atrocious actor. He's banging the actress in real life and he still can't generate any chemistry with her from his end.

CONGRATULATIONS SHUKE! YOUR THREAD WINS THE PRIZE FOR SHORTEST GG POST EVER!!

PM shuke for prize details.

 

[UniAlias]

I just wish the Freys had invited Gordon Gekko to the wedding.

 

[Usual21]

If anyone has the Audiobook for ASoS, can you point out on what disk the red wedding happens? I've found it in the eBook, but the actor who reads the books is really good and I'd like to listen to it on the way to and from work. TIA

Be sure not to post this in the non-audio book thread.

LMAO! I just relaized I posted this here. Sorry guys!

 

[Fiddles]

Also, despite how horrid the wedding turned out, there were some hilarious moments. The guy playing Fray just killed it. Between that and the wedding the week before, it was an amazing blend of comedy and grief.

Hound/arya had some great lines tooI don't remember that gendry leech scene from the book. Was that in there?

 

[shadyridr]

Also, despite how horrid the wedding turned out, there were some hilarious moments. The guy playing Fray just killed it. Between that and the wedding the week before, it was an amazing blend of comedy and grief.

Hound/arya had some great lines tooI don't remember that gendry leech scene from the book. Was that in there?

 

[Fiddles]

What's the problem shady

 

[B-Deep]

What's the problem shady

if you type the letters b-o-o-k together it pisses people off